How The Meaning Of ‘Idol Music’ Changed! (XG, BINI + MORE)

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[@Adobomonster]

That setup for a BINI ending is too good.

[@RodneyRaviz]

on god bruhh

[@babbleboyquito]

Loved the fade in of Cherry on Top as an ending 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@althehe8539]

Shit really made my hair stand up, the excitement I felt when "Salamin Salamin" instrumental played... on god the goosebumps lol

[@RuyLopezTheSicilian]

I was at work when I first watched this. Mouthed off a curse word right within earshot of my boss 🤣

[@NizaMiñoza]

Bro, no one’s pushing the group (BINI) to be popular, like no one’s behind this sudden success. It’s all organic; it’s because of the group’s authenticity and dynamic. And of course, it’s because of their fans, blooms, like you. This sudden success will truly bring the girls to the global stage and it is because of their hard work, passion, talent, sacrifice, and dream. Girls, you deserve all the blessings!

[@emegulle3630]

Please do not forget to give credit to ABS-CBN.

[@NizaMiñoza]

@@emegulle3630 Yes yes yes! Given na yan sila, the management as a whole. Walang BINI if wala sila. ❤️🤙🏼 “no one’s behind this sudden success” was meant to be a double meaning ‘cause the reactor meant something different. Eyyyy

[@drx8-bno]

I agree! However, I wouldn't call this "sudden success." They waited for the right moment to be noticed, with 3 to 4 years passing before they were recognized. What I appreciate about them is that they didn't start as the best group, but you can see their growth and progress from the coconut era. They truly deserve to be where they are today! eto yung magiging proud ka sa kanila talaga kung bloom ka.

[@khylee14]

BINI captured Filipinos like bullseye and ever since the support is overwhelming that it reached the different part of the world. P-pop rise!

[@jonathanwatson5818]

XG!!! 🐺👽 Top Tier vocalists, rappers, and dancers. Trilingual, hard workers, and great personalities.

[@Jeauxflacko]

I got chills watching this bruh.! and i think bini is organically exploded onto the idol scene, they are improving slowly but surely. They've struggled but they still repping the ph up until now, my heart fluttered too seb😂❤

[@PhenomenalTalentBini]

BINI have been heralded as one of Teen Vogue's 2024 Girl Groups to watch!

[@Sebastine]

AS THEY SHOULD

[@varsity15]

enphyen and katseye just had a tiktok collab with BINI recently. it is crazy

[@Дэйвид23]

What is great is out of all their tiktok collabs, Bini got the highest views/likes.

[@PaN-0523]

I agree😂

[@Marvz-i4l]

​@@Дэйвид23which is good because obviously those Koreans artists are taking advantage of our fellow filos meanwhile some of them are belittling and make fun of us just because they think they're superior Asians lol but not all of them are like that

[@baekju9838]

It is organic, they've been in the industry for 4yrs and their boom is God willed

[@lso8000]

The devil works hard, but the BINI BLOOMs work harder haha.

[@elle3742]

CRAZYYY, BLOOMS are scary af and I love it! 😂 BINI has to be protected AT ALL COST.

[@lso8000]

@@elle3742 haha yeah, i’ve looked at most of the youtube reactors, and by far their BINI reactions have the most views in a given amount of time, sometimes 10 to 100 times higher than their other videos. Like a BINI reaction they made 2 weeks ago would have more views than videos they made months and months ago. So yeah the BLOOMS work hard to watch every BINI reaction video, and the reactors see this and they would make more BINI videos to ride the wave. The perfect circle haha. And then more people get exposed to BINI because all the k-pop reactors are making BINI content. And then new BLOOMS are made who will keep on consuming more BINI content haha.

[@pescawaldo]

@@lso8000 dayum right blooms do. I check like every day, like and engage. I mean it goes both ways right?

[@popoyopopsicle]

It was just a bit sad they were recognized a bit late than they shouldve been. I have been playing their songs non stop to my officemates and friends, now they're the ones telling me that BINI is famous now, but they heard it first from my playlist hahaha

[@carloabella9366]

​@@popoyopopsicle well they're pandemic babies that's why they bloom late

[@mechasatsu6214]

When I watched BINI during their KUMU (streaming platform kinda like twitch) days, and noticed that they are "untethered"** by the management; Like they were doing crazy stuff while interacting with the fans, I knew they are going to be different. For Filipino Market, the wisest choice that ABS-CBN have done was to let these girls just be themselves. They trusted them well enough that they wont do much to damage their brand. And us Filipinos ate it. We love seeing these girls off stage, doing normal filipino things. The first wave of Blooms felt like they found their online friends who happen to go on tours and concerts sometimes. I think that was their great selling point to their fellow Filipinos.

[@Дэйвид23]

"The first wave of Blooms felt like they found their online friends who happen to go on tours and concerts sometimes" EXACTLY.

[@Дэйвид23]

"The first wave of Blooms felt like they found their online friends who happen to go on tours and concerts sometimes" EXACTLY.

[@gianyohan]

could not agree more 😊😊

[@nanamikasumi2273]

YOU CLOCKED IT OMG GREAT POINTS!!!

[@Darius-ue4eo]

Ive been a fan of bini since their pre-debut era and I honestly can't believe the success that they're gaining now. Before, people would just ignore them whenever they have mallshows and whenever they do social media lives, it only have 100 or less people watching but now they're breaking records and they're always the main act whenever there's an event.

[@babbleboyquito]

OG Bloom!! 🫡

[@TastyBlueCrayon28]

Winterosy didn’t lie. K-pop took over most of the pinoy here in the Philippines, I’m a blink. We listen to Bini but it’s kinda hard grasping Ppop before. I considered myself a fan but not as hard as I hype K-pop. What changed is that in my experience is that when I saw them live you will realize the difference cause you can relate, you know there’s a lot of talent in Bini. Their personalities and how genuine they are it’s interesting. That’s why I crossed over from K-pop to Ppop. That its time to push and support our home grown talent. Bini represents Philippines I’m not saying that other Ppop group doesn’t but they were trained by FILIPINOS, coached by FILIPINOS. Not a copy cat and they are not afraid in finding their own sound BUBBLE GUM POP. We are proud of what Bini is going with their music and career. But most importantly they’re still funny, genuinely respectful and they connect with every bloom around the world. This sets them apart, how they want to show that nothing has changed even with their success. And I’m a fan of XG as well what I’m seeing is that what XG has done it could happen to Bini as well. World domination since they already performed at Kcon this will start the wider audience. Thanks man we appreciate how much you hype BINI. SALAMAT!

[@Дэйвид23]

Same. I am not even a K-pop fan. the songs i like was not even pop(Thrash Metal). but once i found out about Bini? Maaaaaaaaaan! on God! I immediately fell in love with them! Obsessed even!

[@Trizkaideka]

One thing is for sure, there's a massive and powerful storm approaching, they're called BINI🔥

[@Christ_22821]

This!!!

[@PaN-0523]

Yeah bro 🔥

[@calvinmitchell1274]

XG💗

[@ally_star7136]

Agree 100% BINI is popular now. I'm proud of them because they worked hard to get where they are now. And they still have a long way to go in the music world go go BINI. International and Filipino Blooms love them, you saw the support of blooms 💥boom boom pow 🙂💪

[@julievonbanadera1041]

Filipnos are mostly known to our ballads and bands. Most of us have high expectations when it comes to singing. They must sing live and must be a good story teller. Sb19 - AAA 2023 performance with &Team or Mama/Gento in Fist Take Alamat - ILY ILY or Maharani in Wish Bus G22 - Bang, Babalik Any Filipino artist - Wish Bus performances or collaboration of different artists in live stage (All out Sunday or ASAP) You might be get into Fililupno Artist Rabbit Hole

[@pescawaldo]

And maybe that’s why it took too long for Filipinos to accept PPop - I mean how can you overthrow Sarah G, Ben&Ben et al. I can imagine vomit inside their mouths when they first encountered ppop with vitriolic thoughts of “wanna be kpop” which is still common among Filipinos and kpop/jpop stans. Slowly though. As a Filipino overseas I’m feeling the same feeling like I did during the band boom of the mid 2000s (Hale, 6Cycle etc) but only this time, that feeling is like on crack with added ginko biloba and ampalaya extract, you know what I mean. Bini opened my doors to SB19, Alamat, G22 and damn it makes me feel proud.

[@badboyonibaku]

@@pescawaldo cause some of them are cringe.

[@pescawaldo]

@@badboyonibaku luckily i havent encountered those. 😅

[@badboyonibaku]

@@pescawaldo Different tastes i guess.. Some of them are cringe to me

[@seoyeonique]

@@badboyonibaku would you like to name some you know that are cringe?

[@just_exo02]

14:20 BINI BLOOMED like beautiful flower... get it! Bloom (BINI's fandom name BLOOM)

[@99Lowel]

I love winterosy. She lowkey flexed too much BINI on that video because she is 100% correct

[@anascodemarkp.662]

Samantalang Yung mga ka otin bias daw si winterosy at nagpapanggap pa na hindi daw pilipino hahaha

[@carolinekim1121]

bruhhh, ka-proud man taeeeee. my heart was really full. i've been a kpop fan since i can remember. i believe it starts with gg, then there's sandara park who debuted with 2ne1 then the other 2nd gen and 3rd gen idol groups but seeing, witnessing a group that really comes from where i was born was really a pride shit i can shout out to the whole world yk? i freaking watched mnl48 since day 1 especailly their perfs in it's showtime? then there's sb19 (also been there since day 1) and really that just makes my heart full just seeing the recognition they deserve to my fellow pinoy but then bini came. bini alongside sb19 during pandemic (i was incoming 11th grade student that time then the whole lockdown and covid 19 shiz happened) was the it for me. it didn't help that abs cbn that time was experiencing a big problem but that didn't stop me from watching how the group was formed. my heart was really full and idk how to explain it in words. well, idk where i am going here now with this comment but i am freaking proud as hell. (sherkolang mga badingggg~)

[@CozyGameJunkie]

I watched this. Because i saw Aiah in the the thumbnail. And damn so happy for the Bini introduction ❤❤❤

[@rildecastro9014]

Para sakin safe to say talaga na Organic yung pag boom ng BINI. Mula sa song tsaka sa bini core na edit basta ganun HAHA like nakilala ko talaga sila dahil sa humor nila na makaka relate ka. Hindi sila same ng ibang group na dapat ganito ka, ganyan basta happy ako na nakikilala na sila. 🥺♾️

[@Majikakkoi]

Bini and XG ❤️

[@brader5767]

Yes! For me, they are on another level. They're too underrated at the moment. But I know someday they'll be on the top.

[@sidbernal]

These both are gonna blow up

[@earlisonline]

Aside from the blooms and help of stan twitter, what made BINI popular locally is both bringing a fresher-sounding music, and being influenced by other Filipino pop icons who came before them. OPM is mostly dominated by bands and solo artists doing ballads and rock music. BINI, along with other groups, were the ones who brought back pure pop music. The bubblegum sound sets them apart from the current oversaturated scene of OPM. On the other hand, BINI was also able to bring back the sound of pop that has been made by pop icons like Sarah Geronimo and Jolina Magdangal, specially during the 90s and 2000s. Na Na Na and Lagi were the songs that are heavily influenced by the music of the aforementioned artists, which were also loved by people. With that being said, BINI’s popularity right now is indeed organic. The girls worked hard to gain the NGG status, and people who love music made it more possible.

[@baekju9838]

YOU ARE DEEP IN THE BINI RABBITHOLE BRO IT IS 'THAT' SERIOUS FOR YOU RN

[@get2riz]

Sebastine -- Music is the adornment of time. Watching you watch Bini is double plus fun.

[@just_exo02]

9:04 When it comes to Pop Culture Philippines and Filipinos are the number one enthusiastic when it come to that. Anime, Kpop, K-Drama, C-Drama, Western Music etc. That dated wayback at 90's and early 2000's So instead of being a Fan, why not become one of that. We already had Filipinos on Hollywood, Filipino members on Kpop groups such is UNIS and Full Filipino members Kpop group Horizon, they are everywhere.

[@Raemaster]

yes WE NEED THE BRAT REACTION

[@KZM-c6b]

Agree. Music, new music in particular, is fun again. Especially, OPM. For years now, music played Philippine radio stations and stores/malls was stuck in the 90's to early 2000's. it was like people got tired of listening to new music. It is changing. It is becoming exciting again

[@PhenomenalTalentBini]

Bini in Coachella soon ❤️

[@anascodemarkp.662]

I think our best leader manifest it on Twitter 😳😳

[@velky_reeds]

the creator of the video actually clarified that she forgot to include VCHA from JYP, into this video being also one of the first ones to try to cater to the western market with more american members, second to Katseye by Hybe

[@jhonjhon189]

I guess for me why BINI is booming now because of their concept. Bini brought back the pop/bubble pop where what kpop original is. Me/we old kpop stan we're so fedup of y2k and girl crush concept. Bini set again the original "pop" And of course the power of "Proud Pinoy Fan" haha lmao 😂

[@marnilalfornon7180]

Philippines yeah

[@PaN-0523]

Yeah Let's go haha

[@Marvz-i4l]

And to think Filipinos has the no. 1 streaming power from day to night lol one of the advantages they have strong k-pop fanbase and most of their filo fans hypes and loves them too much to think we forget to appreciate our own talents lol so happy that we now slowly appreciating ppop especially with Bini and sb19 but ngl Bini fire up Filipinos loves for ppop music unlike before we treat and call them jejemon or cringe lol.

[@amiga4everandever]

the one thing you mentioned about XG was their bold colors, It’s really Japanese Harajuku style, honestly google it and look at the images, you will see that style everywhere, they totally embrace that part of their culture and I think that is one of the ressons they are so popular there, they started their world tour there, sold out all shows, now adding more shows to the back end

[@lizjocano7436]

I'm into and jrock before i discovered Mamamoo. I listened to some kpop songs, but Mamamoo is the one I stan. Ppop wasn't in my radar too. I know SB19 but not fond of boy groups. MNL48, ahhhh yes. It clicked to me, and i agree it's just a version of an established group. BINI... i saw their China guesting and I am hooked. It felt I got snatched and fell into the rabbit hole. They instantly became my happy pill, by watching their live clips.

[@elle3742]

I felt the same way as hers. I've been a KPOP stan for over a decade since we don't have anyone who can match their quality idol group, but I can say now that PPOP has evolved and has something to put on the table now! I AM SO PROUD OF BINI! They work extremely hard to get to this point!

[@pescawaldo]

What’s driving this Bini boom? I’d like to imagine that the Blooms have a hand in this to an extent, but I think the truth is that the music is really good. We’ll yeah stans can hee and yaw about their groups but if the product ain’t gold people will know. You weren’t kidding about watching all the MVs in order. And to think it all started from a coconut.

[@Em-ff7fj]

I think Cherry On Top with its very popular sound that's trendy with the current market + being in all English really helped international fans get into them because I've been a Bloom for years now and have noticed that certain songs and dances become very popular on TikTok etc. Same with Gento blowing up and garnering attention because kpop fans were exposed to their idols dancing to the songs

[@anascodemarkp.662]

Siningit mo na Naman yan ka otin​@@Em-ff7fj

[@nanamikasumi2273]

DAMN THANK YOU FOR REACTING TO THIS I REALLY LOVED THIS VIDEO

[@Gizmo_Mogwai_]

I do think that music as a whole is better now than it was like 5 years ago, and it's "fun", HOWEVER it's divided more than ever. Fandom wars, politics, nepotism, lack of debut talent. Too few artists or groups can transcend their native roots and make it in other markets.

[@josephnicocando7958]

Thanks for sharing this bro. Been also doing research on how BINI has exploded over the past 2-3 months. And how brands are capitalizing on this rise in their popularity.

[@PhenomenalTalentBini]

Bini gonna be crazy next year ❤

[@EenirStar]

True BINI is popular now apart from having a beautiful voice and good dancing, they are very funny and very real people, they don't pretend to be what they are, that's why blooms are related to them.

[@TessA-ns4zm]

I've been listening to BINI for awhile now and I am SO happy they're getting so much recognition

[@Дэйвид23]

It is a Organic Boom(Bloom). What seperated Bini from all the other Ppop groups is they got a Aiah chokehold on everybody, Male, female,Gays, young, old, rich, poor, cats, dogs. everybody! and i am for it!

[@Frug00028]

IM so proud of Bini I never came back to kpop lolol

[@babbleboyquito]

I’m one of those who never listened to kpop, ppop, or idol music in general before. I was into rock, rnb, etc. But something about BINI clicked. Now here I am, listening to BINI all day. Plus, when you see how these girls are, how relatable they are, it just makes you feel that you want nothing else but their success. Stan BINI!

[@CB_2389]

XG! 👽 🐺

[@janus9148]

I love idol music simply because of the variety in voices. Ever since One Direction, I always loved the switch from one member to another.

[@korn_bjbj4779]

XG 🔥

[@v475]

the way you reacted when bini showed up LMAOOO MOOD

[@JipperGwapito]

Based on her definition of idol groups, then I am really right that our Philippine's first idol group debuted in 1989, the Smokey Mountain Batch 1 while Smokey Mountain Batch 2 is the first PH idol group who released their Japanese album I think in 1992 or 1993 if I'm mistaken. Thanks to Bini I am now interested to dig deeper into our pop music history.

[@g-buddy8622]

XG are just on another level ! And I think it’s because of many reasons Usually with groups they’ll have strong vocalist and a weak rap line , or they might have bad vocals but catchy songs. XG on the other hand excel in everything, amazing rappers , great singers , amazing dancing and their music is really good and I truly think Simon (their CEO,producer) played a big part on it . He was very strict and would scold them but he would also listen to them , he wanted to create a group like no other and he had a vision and went for it . Plus Simon loves music especially rap and R&B , if you watch their documentary series you will be blown away from the girls and also Simon . They are a family and I’ve been a fan of groups for years but XG’s story is like no other . XG are the future

[@heavensky8706]

I like XG too; their rappers are so good; they're one of my top groups right now with BINI; why not try to check them out? They are a complete group too; everyone can rap, sing, and dance, and the most important thing is that they are trained to sing and dance in live performances, and they came from humble beginnings. Their back story is full of tears. They are one of the idol groups I admire the most. Aside from that, they break the stereotypes of idol image by being true to themselves.

[@julievonbanadera1041]

You may now try to explore other ppop groups sb19, g22, alamat and others there were lots of Filipino talents that you might discover. Not just ppop. We are also known in world of hiphop dance

[@flwlpfo5179]

it’s a hard pill to swallow but i think kpop especially girl groups is getting boring after newjeans, there is nothing really new. i mean magnetic was surely a hit. but what else after that? nothing is exciting anymore. meanwhile xg, bini, katseye is something new and exciting.. not just their music but their personalities. and it will make you feel that you want more of them the more you watch them.

[@PaN-0523]

I agree 😊

[@RuyLopezTheSicilian]

14:43 the photo says 'actually... no peeing here'. I'm not sure who the girl is but that picture perfectly represents Bini's attitude towards the traditional idol image. They dgaf about people's expectations and opinions, they're just staying true to themselves. As long as you're having fun and not disrespecting anyone, who cares about being prim and proper 24/7?

[@3yes0ny0u]

It's the yt algorithm. What you watch gets recommended more to you to form a bubble of interest.

[@Francheska291]

You need to watch sb19 now ❤❤❤❤

[@rain_9217]

They trained but many Filipinos like BINI are inborn and have beautiful voices, they have their own genres. There are many really good singers in the Philippines. Because we love to sing karaoke.😊 🤙

[@g-buddy8622]

XG 🐺

[@sirfeo7353]

This is making me tear up for bini

[@mayarashraf5630]

I don't know about BINI but I'm here for XG

[@Kudejikashi]

you should get into them! they have shown love for XG since beginning of last year

[@partyeslife8157]

lol maybe it's time to figure out why everyone knows BINI except you? 😛 i guess it's time to find out about BINI

[@PhenomenalTalentBini]

Bini deserve popularity because of their highly skill talent that everyone should know about

[@ManOfCulture1995]

Found BINI during a twitch stream where people recommend music, I fell in love with they shit

[@elfilibusterible]

XG is great! And as Bloom myself, I am confident to say that XG is the best girl group to date.

[@donpikot3d-stl-4dl2combina5]

Blooms yes legit! 🌸🤙🇵🇭

[@JamEsdxf]

Bini really resonates thru all or majority of the Filipinos. It may be hard to some to accept but like in sports BINI really did represent PH in terms of idol groups. So Thank you man for appreciating BINI its like appreciating Philippines as a whole. Love yah man!!!

[@Effi_ee]

XG and BINI are about to go far❤

[@dominadorjr.abalos126]

BIINI

[@Yelimeow_16]

BINI🌸

[@anneybañez95]

I've been a fan of BINI since their pre debut song Da Coconut Nut 😂

[@donpikot3d-stl-4dl2combina5]

BINI.. ❤ Philippines' gem.. ❤

[@earlyimprints]

I just really hope there's a new PPOP group that will atleast match or top up BINI so the PPOP industry will continue to become a huge thing in the filipino music and will top up the KPOP music in the philippines .

[@heavensky8706]

I think ALAMAT is the closest to doing that; they just need more promotion, while SB19 is the end of their career. Making solo music is not a good sign every time a member of a group does that; that is almost over for a group, so I don't expect too much from SB19.

[@iiamgabbyyy]

@@heavensky8706esbi are not at the end of their career yet. pablo said that they are just focusing more on solo stuff for now but they will release an ep again soon this year.

[@heavensky8706]

@@iiamgabbyyy Based on my observation of groups in Western and K-pop, the downfall of the group is always the member who prioritizes a solo career, and Felip's successful career is a testament that he can go solo anytime without his group, so I hope you're right, but usually in that situation, it becomes complicated for that member and his group.

[@earlyimprints]

​@@heavensky8706Yeah I'm rooting for alamat also since they promote cultural beliefs and tranditions of the PH .

[@amoretv2966]

You know what I don't really know for real who's bini but the crazy part is when I hear there songs its give me chills bro always! Even though in simple way they kill it damn! I'm so obsessed on bini !

[@kokomora120]

I think there's a Little Misinformation about P-pop - SB19 is also one of the big and also representation of the culture,(Korean management once but they are self managing since the BLOW by BLOW billboard hits) Cant deny BINI's potential but they also lookup and respect SB19 too for overtaking BTS in Billboard as #1 and first group to be global in Ppop.🤙🤙🤙

[@anascodemarkp.662]

Hahaha ayaw talaga palamang ang otin ahhhh

[@rafaelcalamba]

Like what I replied to the other comment, I think the only misinformation in the video is SB19 being the first P-pop group when MNL48 came first. But the bigger problem with that video is the lack of information, yes SB19 started with no Filipino identity due to being backed by a Korean company intended to target K-pop audience, what winterosy left out though is they eventually developed their Filipino essence. I can understand the frustration because it made a bad impression on anyone who's not familiar with SB19.

[@flwlpfo5179]

here we go. inserting their faves again.

[@iskatiml4371]

Ito ang ayaw ko sa mga A'tin eh.... Fan Ako ng G22/bullet, pag pinasyalan niyo mga video ng g22 puro mga A'tin ang nasa comment section.... At kelangan laging nasa taas ang idol nila at sasabihin pa nila na sinusupotahan nila ang g22 pero sa totoo lang puro pagkokompara lang ang ginagawa nila

[@kerrim4799]

Same. I follow all 3 groups, and been a fan pero pansin ko na yung ibang A'tin only support G22 to spite BINI. Akala ko PPop Rise until nakikilala na yung BINI. Parang dina-downplay nila yung rising fame ng BINI and need to remind everyone abt SB19. Passive-agressive yung iba. We get it, SB19 have made their mark already in the industry, and still soaring. Nasa history na sila ng Philippine Pop music. Why can't we just appreciate the music, hardwork ng bawat grupo and support them? I know the mahalima are super humble and baka mag-cringe pa sila sa pagkakalat ng ibang fans.

[@popoyopopsicle]

FYI, SB19 was formed by a korean company but it was meant to target the PH market not the Korean Market. And BINI was also trained by Korean Trainers. But I agree that BINI is the most popular Ppop Idol right now. Although I'm an A'tin I am a Bloom too just get your facts right.

[@99Lowel]

1 month. and they didnt apply any kpop style on their genre and proceeded to be a local wise idol. SB19 really is a kpop ripoff

[@reejzyhdrip]

2024, I FUUGGGG HEAVILY WITH BINI, XG AND KATSEYE!!!! THEY'RE REAL DEAL

[@markandregelen9861]

Yeah everything is very well said..

[@justincase4003]

The thing that this video do not mention is the actual motivation why KPOP branches out to other countries. It's motivated by money. Contrary to what you will think, the music industry is a finite market in any country. Competition is fierce. It's always hard for new groups to catch a share of the market so companies will search new sources of revenue. Knowing this, those companies try to find ways to attract those market.

[@faithfuldays3886]

Let me add to this facts. BINI wasn't entirely trained by Filipino experts only. During their training at StarHunt Academy, the Director of BINI stated, Filipinos are talented but lack of discipline. They have to fly in Korean experts from MU Doctor Academy, an institution based in Seoul, to train BINI on strict choreograohy routines, diet, vocalization as well. It was a rigorous Korean Idol training system. Who's pushing BINI to Kpop foreign reactors? Most likely Filipino K-pop fans around the world. According to Koreaboo stats last 2022, Philippines has the most K-Pop fans in the whole world next to Indonesia and Japan. I'm not sure if that was counted as Filipinos in the Philippines only but imagine the Filipino immigrants and overseas community around the world included. It's just strength in numbers.

[@ryanisedino9381]

Its all about making a song.. Making a song doesn't fit your narrative being trained by koreans at take note mas talented tau pagdating sa kantahan nagugulat nga sila kay collete dahil parang d makapaniwala sila na kalevel na ni Dua lipa si colet ayun sknla at walang voice lesson un.. Mediocre pa nga yan si DUA LIPA SA standard ng Pinoy tapos hanga na sila kay colet pero satin Boses ni colet mediocre lng hahaha.. Koreans tuturuan tau mga pinoy kumanta nahihibang ka na ba?

[@anascodemarkp.662]

​@@ryanisedino9381wag mong pansinin Yan ka otin yan

[@99Lowel]

the questions is, do you remember when BINI did adopt any korean style on their music? neither do i. SB19 does and winterosy just stated a fact on it. all they got are women audiences whose accustomed to KPOP already. Meanwhile BINI embodied the local essence especially on Pantropiko and Karera which gives a pure filipino feels thats why they captured all type of audiences that listen to music here in the Philippines

[@cza1898]

most songs if not all by MNL48 are just translated version of the AKB48 songs. That's why it didn't clicked to the fans.

[@seoyeonique]

and how they sang it too is Japanese-like. Big reason why it didn't get love of the Filipino public.

[@YY-mk4ti]

@@seoyeonique For real though, like why do they gotta sound like a robot? I don't feel any emotions in their voices at all.

[@seoyeonique]

@@YY-mk4ti they're just copying how their sister group akb48 sang their songs.. so yeah it's not how we filipinos sing

[@YY-mk4ti]

@@seoyeonique I'd be dammed how they are a success. That kind of singing attacks my soul and I don't even hate them or know them. I just heard them sing in a video and I got weak just by listening. It's draining the life out of my soul

[@seoyeonique]

@@YY-mk4ti unfortunately they aren't successful.. as time goes by, their popular members started to leave. I just hope these girls could join other PPOP groups so they can sing as normal.

[@carolinesch.]

Not the sb19 shade

[@atKR1S]

I just want to know what the f**k happened to VCHA JYP?

[@ApatLang]

fr bruh they ditched lolla and just disappeared

[@Vizible21]

Idk about XG but I'm here for BINI

[@brader5767]

check them out, give it a try, you might like them, they're exceptionally talented also

[@Дэйвид23]

dont know them either. i think that what seperated Bini from the others is they organically attracted New fans from different types of people. I am not a Kpop or pop fan but a Metal fan,but Man Bini got the hooks on me good. same with my other friends.

[@PaN-0523]

Yes I'm here for bini too😊

[@PaN-0523]

​@@Дэйвид23yeah let's go🤙🔥

[@cyruss9455]

I'mma be honest when i heard BINI this year.. I've become less attention to KPOP now compared to me More Obsessed in KPOP 2020-2023. And I became More Freely heard again of OPM (Original Pinoy Music). I hate to say this that KPOP Community right now are became More Toxic compared to what i Experienced in my Pandemic Days. That almost many people are more care about now. More Yapping, Comparing and Hating in Social Medias to their Idols..

[@jerometan4307]

It's funny watching this video and you telling to watch kelvii reacting to the bini songs in order. I literally just watched it yesterday and his reaction is funny. LOL

[@BTSENGENEXGIZNA]

Checked out a few BINI stuff their okay lol they have nice vocals tho. I luv XG ❤

[@starbyte984]

Have you checked Golden Arrow and Strings yet? These are their other concept that people are not aware of

[@BTSENGENEXGIZNA]

@@starbyte984 No will have a look see. Thanks :)

[@heavensky8706]

I recommend Cherry on Top, Karera Pantropiko, and Salamin Salamin to watch. If you want live vocals, listen to them in any Wish Bus performance of Bini. They sound exactly like the studio version, but sometimes they sound better live because they add harmonies and adlibs that are not in the studio version, and if you want to check how good a dancer they are, I recommend Karera and Golden Arrow dance practice because they so synchronize, and if you want to see how they can do the live vocals while dancing, I recommend watching "Lagi" dance and vocal practice.

[@nalie6754]

i hope u try reacting to another ppop group called ALAMAT! Their concept and songs is heavily inspired by the culture and you might find it interesting as well. Edit: oh and bini's leader, jhoanna actually starred in on of their mvs!

[@nknento9051]

Blackswan roll up reaction!!

[@redlyns153]

Actually that one thing the creator said about "other people not being a fan of Kpop came to like Bini".... I'm the exact example... Kpop didn't really got an appeal to me and look at me now. Fucking captured whole by this girl group

[@Maron-Cocona]

Idol culture is only a small part of J-pop

[@elfilibusterible]

She's right about almost everything except her belief that Kpop and Jpop initiated this whole boy/girl group concept. The West had many boy bands and girl groups long before Kpop and Jpop. For example, Girls' Generation was inspired by the Pussycat Dolls. And G.O.D. being inspired Boyz 2 Men. These boy/girl groups originated in the West, not Asia. Additionally, she's mistaken about SB19 sounding too Kpop. If you listen to their song "Mapa" and read the lyrics, you'll see they're a distinctly Filipino boy group. Although they started under a Korean company, they have been self-managed for nearly three years now. But I like how she set up for BINI on this one. Great video, I just hope that people don't discredit American Pop for what it's done for pop culture. There are a lot of Gen-Zs nowadays that think KPop and Jpop are the OGs when there are actually a lot of Kpop songs that secretly plagiarized American and UK pop songs for years. For instance, New Jeans is currently facing a plagiarism lawsuit. It's good that this issue is becoming more apparent, as most well-known Kpop groups have plagiarized at least two songs, yet this often goes unnoticed.

[@anascodemarkp.662]

Sabi na nga ba may SB19 na Naman hahaha mga otin na toh

[@lapizlapoppy]

You mistook the video. She didn't say boy/girl group concept. She specifically said the IDOL concept. Which is heavily (and sometimes unhealthy) popularized within Japan.

[@anascodemarkp.662]

@@elfilibusterible ang haba Naman ng comment mo ka otin hahaha

[@elfilibusterible]

​@@lapizlapoppy The concept exists primarily because of The Beatles, who were the first to achieve global fame as a group. And even before them, Elvis Presley set a precedent. There was Frank Sinatra before that. The idea of an "idol," particularly in Japanese entertainment, is fundamentally inspired by these iconic figures. Even the great Madonna inspired Japan to create many of their City Pop idols such as Maria Takeuchi.

[@lapizlapoppy]

@elfilibusterible if you expect an 11 minute video to detail the intricacies of the historic development of pop and the development of pop groups instead of focusing on one separate subculture of pop groups, which is idol groups, then that's really on you. She has stated multiple times that "we're not here to talk about that".

[@kamen8361]

This might be a hot take but...i dont like mixed groups without sub units, let me explain, its easy for a group of asian members of different ethnicities to blend in better, but when you have a group like blackswan i feel like you need more members and subunits so they tackle a whole different market like could you imagine a kpop subunit of just black members that performs in america and africa OMG like it would be awesome...but i feel like when thats not done people tend to not care about mixed groups with none asian members

[@viprysanvecina]

BINI was also trained by some Korean coaches with some korean training, I think you forgot that it I mean that woman in a video who explaining. But when it comes into music it was filipino.

[@RoydexChannel]

Her analysis about PPop is on point but other ppop fandoms can't swallow that reality pill at the moment.

[@MIKHAMOT10]

Mga Bloom may pakana niyan ahahh

[@bmgamingph916]

Nalalamagan lang idol mo

[@anascodemarkp.662]

Ka otin kasi

[@MIKHAMOT10]

@@bmgamingph916 hahaha Kasama ako sa may pakana ano kaba 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

[@bmgamingph916]

@@MIKHAMOT10 Ndi ka nman blooms eh

[@MIKHAMOT10]

@@bmgamingph916 pano mo nasabi?

[@kazuharuu_]

2 things that pops in my mind rn after watching your reaction: 1. Sexbomb girls are the 1st group that really did make a hit in the Philippines in 1999 but didn't go to international market because their aim is just local audiences. 2. More of this 'Idol Music', less boobies, ass shaking, cursing in music videos popping. Diverse and open to all genre/people type of music will dominate.

[@Popkulture949]

Bro ppop is the next big thing! Bini is on fire right. You should consider checking out the ppop kings SB19. Start off with Gento, which basically blew up late last year. Kpop groups still dance to the song even during kcon last month.

[@princevegeta1183]

XG only! They have everything you could ask for. Bini not so much for me. All xg songs is A1 flawless and they go hard. Bini is more poppy to me

[@ballhogph]

Coz they are more into bubble gum pop genre

[@lovethecherryontopofmyhalohalo]

Bini become popular because of their hit song “Pantropiko” here in ph

[@carolinesch.]

I am really interested what will happen with sm and their british group and hybes upcoming latin group

[@ally_star7136]

I LOVE YOU BINI 🤙

[@Elys-Ian]

Well, I'm not actually surprised about the KZbin thing I've seen a survey about the most internet user/watching videos countries. Guess who's on the top😅 we have more time watching contents than any other countries 😅

[@partyeslife8157]

next up G22 because of performing with SB19 ACER Day's 'Limitless' !!! They killin it.. btw G22 is the group that could take on BINI.... @Sebastine if you don't know G22, i highly recommend you check them out.... or even SB19... they paved the way for PPOP. they are the benchmark. If you thought BINI is great (which they really are), rest assured you will get your mind blown from these groups as well. and the opinion that BINI is the best ppop group... that's subjective. Crazy how they don't consider them as the best because they were trained by Korean management. Like why TF can't Eminem be considered the best - cause he's not Black? That's where the controversy right now.

[@iskatiml4371]

BTW bullet here, ang dami mong paliwanag.. masyado Kang defensive sa comment mo... At masyado ng gasgas ung " SB19 pave the way for PPOP". Kakasawa na masyado na kayong over proud. Kahit sa mga mv ng G22 puro kayo ang nasa comment section.

[@partyeslife8157]

@@iskatiml4371 could you convert that to English lol

[@partyeslife8157]

@@iskatiml4371 I’ll go google translate it. I’m not on the PC so there isn’t a translate button.

[@partyeslife8157]

@@iskatiml4371 "BTW bullet here, you have a lot of explanations.. You are too defensive in your comment... And "SB19 pave the way for PPOP" is too much of a scratch. Too bad you are too over proud. Even in G22's mvs, only you are in the comment section." Defensive? First of all there needs to be something that is offending me. What am i defending? So SB19 didn't pave the way for PPOP? Are you a total BINI fan that got butthurt over the comments of that lady? Aren't you tired of all that controversial BS you guys are fighting over? I wonder why you're all butthurt over my comment. Over proud? Proud of SB19 or G22? Lets analyze what you might be trippin over from my comment. Perhaps you did'nt like the fact that i said that BINI might not be the best PPOP group? Are you saying that SB19 is not PPOP or are they?? Now lets look at the accolades and accomplishments generated by SB19 compared to BINI. If i list them out, wouldn't it be unbalanced compared to the 'number 1 ppop group"? You see what i mean by it's subjective? Okay perhaps you're not happy with the 'paving the way for ppop'. Could you elaborate on why you don't think so? First of all, would there be the term if they did not blow up? Perhaps the term would have just occurred organically but if we elminate them from the equation, from say 2 or 3 years ago, what level of the other groups have promoted the same level? In Canada and the US, people aren't even exposed to anything Filipino except someone like EZ Mil which was able to bring Filipino rap into the mainstream. I cannot think of any mainstream musical artist singing in Filipno that's accepted as mainstream. However, SB19 has normalized Filipino into mainstream music. Sure you could name other groups, but it's not at the same level.

[@partyeslife8157]

@@iskatiml4371 And yes i have a lot of explanations because im rap and hip hop analyst in my real job. So please reply back as i want to understand your point of view. thanks.

[@kuyss08]

eyyy bini 🤙🤙

[@BinSensei94]

TIL that winterosy is Pinoy 😮