How the Nazis Teamed Up with IBM for Mass Murder (And How the First Ethical Hacker Fought Back)

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[@coltonbenson365]

yeah my cousin was my boss

[@TheHardys01]

8:31 Where have I heard of something similar????

[@TheHardys01]

11:48 So is that not the same thought process for which cancel culture is being cried?

[@marcbeebee6969]

Brilliant episode. 👏

[@ShadoeHaze]

Your videos are SO informative and FULL of information. Unfortunately, it takes several attempts for me to get through one of them because of the monotone sound of your voice. Man, it sounds like you are just literatlly reading line by line, purposefully trying to insert zero emotion or interest into your own narration. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm seriously telling you how much I'd love to be able to watch your videos more, due to the amount of effort you obviously put into them... but just can not because of your voiceovers. Please consider working on this.

[@DanteTheAbyssalBeing]

It's a terrible shame I'd never heard of René Carmille. Man was the absolute definition of hero.

[@aguynamednathan]

He clearly stands with the likes of Oskar Schindler, and Dr. Hans Münch, as passive aggressive, resistance fighters

[@NevadaLamb]

Same. I searched his name while watching this video cause I want to hear more about him, but there’s nothing to be found! He deserves so much more credit.

[@ben5056]

I probably wouldn’t be alive without him

[@sidneysun5217]

we need a biographics video on him

[@jamesslick4790]

René Carmille should have a medal/award named for him that would go to someone who thwarts massive evil by ethical "hacking" or other ethical tech based sabotage.

[@oh8wingman]

What René Carmille did was to say the least an act of bravery. He obviously knew what the outcome of his efforts would be for him personally but despite this he went on doing it until he was finally arrested and imprisoned. People like Carmille give me faith that there will always be some who will do what they have to because it is simply the right thing to do.

[@deathminder9206]

Sadly none of those type of people were on the SEPTA train in Philly.

[@paul20g20]

Taking down this cesspool of living human shit called the leftwing democrat should be a priority

[@SirTorcharite]

@@paul20g20 a man who believes corruption lies only in the party of his opposition is either a fool blinded by his own biases or intentionally sewing division for his own benefit. Do you get anything for mindlessly disparaging your own countryman? As much as neither party believes it there's likely similar levels of good intentioned, moral people in both parties. Who am I kidding though, you're probably a Sino-Russki bot given the randomness of bringing up US politics in unrelated discussions.

[@SirTorcharite]

@@paul20g20 Just Dont Tell Mom I'm in Chechnya

[@mr_byebye]

Its sad because 99% of the human race can't be trusted to do this

[@stevec6232]

I'm going to guess reason IBM were never prosecuted is because like German rocket scientists they were extremely useful to the US entering the computer era.

[@nilus2k]

Plus IBM was hardly the only company that worked with the Nazis.

[@tiredturtle3538]

Plus they provided equipment for the Nuremberg trials

[@russellfitzpatrick503]

Same as with unit 731 of the Imperial Japanese army

[@stankaye3861]

They also manufactured M1 Carbines.

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

@@nilus2k we didn't enter the war for quite a long time, until we did America's policy was to sell to both sides.

[@justinsullivan5063]

I thought I had heard ALMOST everything about the Holocaust, but I had never heard of this man. Thank you so much - great video. Rest in Peace, Rene. You earned it.

[@marcmenard9121]

The holocaust? Haa Haa Haa What was that? Were you there to witnes that ever existed?

[@Cman04092]

Renne Carmile, what a hero and a total legend.

[@russellfitzpatrick503]

... and Thomas Watson????????

[@bosmerfromcanada3878]

René Carmille deserves the Legion of Honor and one of those boulevards with fancy shops and cafes named in honor.

[@bosmerfromcanada3878]

@@russellfitzpatrick503 Money-grubbing genocidaire and deserves a Damnatio Memoriae. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

[@iainballas]

Ah yes. The thing no 85 or more year old company wants asked: who did you make stuff for in the 30s and 40s

[@richardarriaga6271]

Volkswagen, Texaco (Chevron), Mitsubishi, IBM *fades into shrub*

[@NeilCWCampbell]

It like realising which army that colonel Sanders served in and which courthouse they surrendered in ;)

[@jamesslick4790]

@@NeilCWCampbell Colonel Sanders was not a military Colonel. It's an honorary title bestowed by the Commonwealth of Kentucky. He did serve in the United States Army. If you are trying to imply that because he was old and Southern that he was a Colonel in the Confederate army, It's a fail. He was born a quarter century AFTER the Civil War.

[@NeilCWCampbell]

@@jamesslick4790 it a line from family guy ;) But Ty for true facts they always handy :)

[@jamesslick4790]

@@NeilCWCampbellI'm sorry that I missed the joke. I'm a 59 year old who has seen 0 episodes of "Family Guy". I didn't mean to jump on ya! I should consider that some references are to pop culture. (I'm sure there has been some random quote that I might have used from a 1970s TV show that could was misinterpreted by a younger audience as well as I did yours) But, the Innerwebs being the Innerwebs...I'm SURE that someone out there REALLY thinks that Colonel Sanders WAS a Confederate soldier! I mean there are "Flat Earthers" all over the GLOBE! 👍😊👍

[@rackneh]

Thank you for ending a video about monsters by mentioning the names and deeds of a few heroes. That was a great pallet cleanser.

[@KameaMedia]

pallet = palate

[@Sevenfeet0]

Way back in 1989 when I was at Apple fresh out of college, I had the opportunity to attend the Educom convention in Ann Arbor, MI and there was a party at the Henry Ford Museum. The party had two memorable moments. First was meeting Steve Jobs, who was at NeXT at this point pitching NeXT Cubes for the education market. The second was finding the display of the original Hollerith machine from 1890. No one had noticed it among the many other artifacts but I had written about it for a high school paper in the early 80s. I brought friends over to see it saying "THAT machine is why we are all here. This was the first business computer."

[@waterandafter]

Hopefully it doesn't get lost.

[@allenanderson4911]

I wonder if Mr. Jobs would have lived if he hadn't relyed on new age medicine so long.

[@metsrock15]

@@allenanderson4911 What do you mean? Edit: I think I get it now be "New Age" you're talking about all those homeopathy get well soon remedies

[@aprilnelson3018]

@@allenanderson4911 according to his biographer, yes. The dr. who initially diagnosed him wept when he realized that the particular prostate cancer sj had was slow growing and highly treatable. He simply waited too long to have the surgery.

[@catherinejohnson1354]

Easy on the way back lol

[@glassbakeware]

IBM did a very good job of sweeping all this under a rug. I read a book about it years ago and when I tell people about it they just look at me like I'm crazy.

[@russellfitzpatrick503]

... and flok still drive FORD and wear Hugo Boss ...., so why not use IBMs

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

Nobody should be surprised. America profited off both sides of the war until the Japanese decided it was a good idea to bomb Pearl Harbor.

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

@Account NumberEight they gave the US exactly what they wanted in the end though. An excuse to enter the war. After all without the first literal strike coming from them the people's support was iffy. Nobody pays attention to trade, now or then.

[@artistwithouttalent]

My God. I knew the Nazis used IBM punch card machines, but I never knew how directly involved IBM was.

[@mystikarain]

Not to mention Ford!

[@MrFlatage]

@@mystikarain Yes why we do not like Americans screaming how they won WWII. Those who never had grandparents and many others who gave their lives for freedom remember the manufacturer plates on the vehicles used by the Nazi Warmachine to invade and kill. Ford Werke, GM Werke. While IBM did the registration US Kodak made use of the Jews as slavelabout to make America First their 'profits'. General Electric was worse. Can you imagine that company used Jewish slave labout to build the gaschambers? All the while the Made in US vehicles the Germans rode to war were fueled by US standard oil. With endless credit from Chase Bank ofcourse. And while the world suffered? All those German soldiers were drinking Fanta which was the cover up name for ... Coca Cola. While wearing the American Hugo Boss designed uniforms. Without the US there would never have been any WWII.

[@PuckDudesHockey]

@@MrFlatage My grandfather fought in the war against the Nazis... AND he worked for Ford Motor Company for his entire career... from the Model T through to the Mustang. His only pause from Ford was during the war. I'm not sure if he ever knew just how problematic that whole picture was. I'm glad I didn't know the history myself until after his death... I never faced the situation of having to join those dots in a conversation with him.

[@tskraj3190]

@@MrFlatage Hugo Ferdinand Boss was apart of the German Nazi Party and Hugo Boss was a German Company at the time. The military vehicles and planes used by the Nazi's were Mercedes, Bosch and BMW. Oh and Nazi Germany get their petroleum from Romania and then later on used synthetic fuels from coal deposits. The British and American Air Forces bombed Germany's refineries which helped win the war. Stop spreading false information because you hate Americans.

[@MrFlatage]

@@tskraj3190 So you and I quote 'hate Americans'? Those are your words even though you use propaganda edit tactics like the facists did. Shame the video gives us the truth and fact. You are spreading the false information based on your hatred just like a Nazi here for all to see. Feel free to visit our museums and fact check what the manufacturer plates say on the German warmachines? Ford Werke? GM Werke? Yes you cannot edit those out can you. Nor can Chase Bank change those confiscated historical documents proving what they did. I love how you have no clue about factual history. July 26, 1947, President Truman approved the National Security Act of 1947. We can proof read that against your vile attempt at disinformation. Yes now everyone will read the same exact words with the Presidents signature and realize the U.S Airforce was founded ... after WWII. You do bare simularities with a German leader hiding in a bunker moving pieces around on a board that didn't exist. You guys related perhaps? 'American Air Forces'. Good one! No one who took the pledge will back you up on your BS.

[@PeterCombs]

as long as the checks don't bounce, IBM will do business...simple.

[@DixonLu]

That sentence applies to another company that had a six hour outage the other day, according to one of their former data scientist.

[@jalight27]

Isn't that every corporation?

[@emr6153]

@@DixonLu careful abt who you believe... just saying, if this is actually a real Facebook whistle blower, how come within 48 hours after she came out she was ALREADY BERATING CONGRESS with lamentable stories that will make censorship much more likely?

[@jaygatsby3039]

Welcome to capitalism babe.

[@Simonsvids]

It's not up to individual companies to decide who they can sell to, that is the role of the government. The US government could have refused an export licence - they did not.

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

According to Edwin Black, the tattoo numbers were based on the punch cards.

[@mystikarain]

They were.

[@justinransburg5560]

Is this also the origin of barcode tattoos?

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

@@justinransburg5560 I doubt it. But don’t know.

[@Tupiaz]

@@justinransburg5560 Barcode tattos are either done for fun or as reference to the video game hitman.

[@margaretsander8419]

...what a simple but mind blowing connection!

[@dabluedevil1000]

Mr. Carmille, you sir, are a hero. My love and respect to you for your brilliant work of saving human lives. A legend. It's a pity we never learned about you in history books.

[@amandam8609]

Might get sued for this one Simon, didn’t seem like there was enough “allegedly”s

[@carlthor91]

Statute of limitations. ;-)

[@Moto_Medics]

It’s history can’t sue over what actually happened

[@Cman04092]

Also, I think IBM would want to skip this lawsuit, due to the Streisand effect. They wouldn't wanna bring any extra attention to a video like this, which a lawsuit most definitely would.

[@michelbelanger2845]

Would be pretty dumb of them to bring this out into the spot light

[@mgkleym]

Edwin Black's "IBM and the Holocaust" has been in print for 20 years now. IBM would be hard pressed to sue given the historical facts in question and has been pretty reluctant to do more then claim people are drawing the wrong conclusions from the facts.

[@Ash-V-Leal]

Yes, I read a book about it in 2001 called IBM and the Holocaust by Edwin Black

[@glassbakeware]

Excellent book

[@prisonguardgus]

Opinions vary.

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

I worked at IBM in Endicott, NY in the 1980’s. This was the heart of IBM when Armonk was the headquarters. The Watson family lived in Endicott. The culture of IBM was very cult like. The local radio station had a skit called “Meet the Beemers (IBMer’s), where they’d lampoon the culture and use the internal language of the company. The IBMers were the top of the heap in town. One of the local shops sold a doll called the zipperhead doll. The saying was that for IBMers, “Zip the head open, remove the brains and zip it closed.” I was on a 9 month contract and was glad to leave.

[@ryanatkinson2978]

Rene, you are one of the best humans ever made. Good work chap

[@TimmyTantrum]

"Ugh, that's terrible! I'm never buying anything from IBM again!" *sips a Coke, gets in a Ford to drive to work* -some of you, probably

[@sidma5661]

Do IBM even sell consumer level stuff anymore?

[@TimmyTantrum]

@@sidma5661 A lot of their hardware can be found in gaming consoles, and they do cloud computing and blockchain processes as well. But you can't just go out and buy an IBM desktop anymore, I don't think. But my comment was meant to be a joke, anyway.

[@RAGEVforVash]

Lenovo bought IBM’s PC division in 2005.

[@m2heavyindustries378]

I mean it's a fair point lol, but I drive a Toyota

[@beauzer36]

Anyone with a B of A, Chase, Wells Fargo, Citi bank account too.

[@Reveticate]

The music you guys use is just quiet enough and just the right frequency to be barely noticeable and I can't stop thinking about it / trying to hear it.

[@shakiMiki]

That's your dull response to such an amazing story?

[@Reveticate]

@@shakiMiki yes.

[@spookeymo]

@@shakiMiki you can appreciate the story without commenting about it dude

[@sophierobinson2738]

music?

[@Reveticate]

@@sophierobinson2738 yes. Just ever so slightly audible on the background.

[@spencer6388]

I need Simon to make a podcast cause I could literally listen to him ALL DAY

[@AlexMalkavian]

He has like four different podcasts. Most are defunct though.

[@XDSDDLord]

I think Casual Criminalist is his latest one.

[@user-ee9cz6mc1x]

Never say "i have nothing to hide" when it comes to privacy or data collection.

[@HeilRay]

Too right.

[@tturi2]

it'll only be weaponised against you the one out of 100 times you let them take it

[@gabebalassone]

Who would have thought massive corporations would be complacent with bad things for money! How surprising.

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

Check where the Nazis got their fashionable uniforms. Surely wont be companys that are currently seen as reputable.

[@singerkk]

I think you mean complicit. But maybe also complacent.

[@jochenstacker7448]

What simply isn't talked about enough is how weaving led to modern computers.

[@oskarhenriksen]

Punchcards in weaving machines, right?

[@boris1387]

I'm surprised the story of IBM isn't more widely known

[@someperson7]

Although... You comment got me curious, so I asked someone of an older generation and to my surprise they didn't know. So maybe it isn't that widely known🤷🏻‍♂️

[@russellfitzpatrick503]

Perhaps IBM, as one of America's biggest employeres, doesn't really want it known. Imagine how bad that would make it look

[@MrFlatage]

It's the 4th Reich so. I can teach critical race theory if I wanted because of my freedom. Not in America. I could do a book essay on my book of choice. US bans books because they don't have the balls to publically burn them anymore. You should look up the U.S Naval Amphibious Base Coronado, located south of San Diego. They're still claiming the design was an 'accident'.

[@someperson7]

@@MrFlatage Meh, I've seen that layout in restaurant booths also. It's a natural outcome of four adjacent squares with one non-contiguous opening each. If you're looking for reasons to be annoyed, go look up what we actually did with the Butcher of Lyon.

[@boris1387]

@@someperson7 I only found out around 10-15 years ago from my uncle who worked as a civil servant in London. He knew all kinds of things about shady stuff🤔

[@gideonfelt2819]

Never had an opinion on IBM before, but now have a sizable level of distain for the company.

[@prisonguardgus]

This video has several errors in it. Watson was a business man, but he was also a patriot. IBM made M1 carbines, norden bombsights, and BARs for the US forces. Sold them to the government for only 1% and used that 1% to help families of workers who had gone to fight, but didn't come back.

[@stevencook9167]

thank you for this one never even heard a whisper of this

[@Simonsvids]

The older you get, the more you know, and the more sickened you are by humanity. Just giving you a heads up.

[@richardarriaga6271]

Only heard from a book, not amywhere else.

[@Gunni1972]

Carmille: The Assange/Snowden/Binney/McGovern/Kiriakou/Manning of his time. Never forget.

[@mattyt1961]

I knew that IBM created the punch card system they used to catalogue everyone, but I didn't realise how hands on they were especially when given a way out.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

As an aside they also did the same thing in the US in aiding the organization, tabulation, and processing of American Germans and Japanese to be sent to the US's concentration camps

[@AllMyHobbies]

The us did not discriminate based on religion its perfectly fine to discriminate based on Country of origin when that country declares war on you. Come on totally different. And the US was not running mass extermination

[@NoSpamForYou]

@@AllMyHobbies Just stealing their property and putting them in camps where many died from disease from being in terrible living conditions. That was the Democrats' doing by the way. Dems kept the Army etc segregated, Republicans desegregated the armed forces when they got in office after the war. Dems fought school desegregation into the 1970s

[@phueal]

@@AllMyHobbies yeah, that is not “perfectly fine”…

[@AllMyHobbies]

@@phueal i think its perfectly fine maybe you don't but we all have our options. The japans rules dod not care about there citizens well fair if they did not want there people put in camps they would not of started the war

[@phueal]

@@AllMyHobbies they weren't Japan's citizens, most of them were American, and they're not responsible for the actions of the Japanese government. What you're describing as "perfectly fine" is pure racism: rounding people up based on their ethnicity, rather than anything they've actually done.

[@johnreno4156]

Imagine if a current review of today's media and corporate contribution to oppression, suppresion and violations human dignity were reviewed daily.

[@MsEsquire83]

I'm from an IBM family. My parents met working there. My dad retired from IBM as a Global Project Manager in 2012. I could tell you some crazy shit...

[@12yearssober]

Do tell!!!

[@MsEsquire83]

@@12yearssober thought you were dead? (Sorry. Couldn't help it😂)

[@MsEsquire83]

@@12yearssober one example - my dad successfully sued IBM in the late 80s/early 90s for discrimination as a white middle aged male, which is definitely a wtf kinda thing. I'd have to speak w my dad before I say anything else, I don't know if his NDA expired yet

[@AdityaMehendale]

Do tell, but then under an alias. You could put your parents in serious trouble otherwise.

[@MsEsquire83]

(He only sued to get his job back)

[@HIMMBelljuvo]

Ahh, corporations being corporations. Classic.

[@louisetrott5532]

I'm an archivist and I found this fascinating! Archivists primarily work with information management systems. This account of early digital recordkeding was an eye-opener!

[@bicdut]

There's no statute of limitations on war criminals. But in 70 years it's not even the same company. I'm super conflicted.

[@Je.rone_]

Big businesses doing moral questionable things is ever green

[@tylerchristensen1484]

So when Alex Jones said on Timcast that “Thomas Watson gave birth to Hitler” he wasn’t wrong?

[@elisabethandersen1102]

When has Alex Jones ever been wrong?

[@nosuchthing8]

@@elisabethandersen1102 lizard people?

[@elisabethandersen1102]

@@nosuchthing8 yeah okay, I'll give you that. He's right about geopolitical stuff though!

[@kathyastrom1315]

I first learned about the 1890 census and the punch cards in James Burke’s miniseries “Connections”-highly recommended, even though it is 40 years old. As a genealogy buff, the loss of the 1890 census data is a real problem, that info would fill in loads of holes on my tree!

[@r.b.ratieta6111]

Definitely one of those stories that aren't found in High School history books (at least not in America) but should be there. Especially now that we're so reliant on digital technology for everyday activities. A technical variant of the phrase "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." Something along the lines of, "In the land of closed-source machinery, the guy who knows how the system works has the final say."

[@winstonsmith8236]

YES SIMON!!!! Ive been telling this story for years, my father worked for IBM!

[@vustvaleo8068]

also playing Castle Wolfenstein on IBM computers brutally annihilating all the Nazis like a boss.

[@Johnny_Shields]

Random gov dude thought Hollerith had to much of a monopoly on his own invention so his actions led directly to the creation of the monopoly king, IBM. Talk about Irony.

[@Galadonin]

Baguette man here just to say that passive resistance is well taught in the school cursus. My teacher used Carmille as an exemple to show us that every single sabotage was important in the great picture of the Resistance. And yes our social security is still base on his system : 1/2 (male female) 01-99 ("county" zip code) 1-12 (month) 1-31 (day).

[@danielthompson6207]

It's a shame that the Resistance gets so little attention here in US school courses; it barely gets glossed over, yet was an absolutely crucial part of the war.

[@Galadonin]

@@danielthompson6207 Well that's a shame, of course the resistance wasn't as "good" as the battle of Britain but still, we were there on the battlefield, we saved lives and our honour. I know about Germany of the UK for example in Europe, the resistance is taught well enough but it's the main focus of French, History, civics even English in school when we were 14. We can see it, feel it in every town ! I lived next to a woman that was passing message and intel from occupied to the free France, she did a lot, a lot of nasty thing to secure intel. Just this your neighbors, friends, we all have stories from this period. My great grandfather came to France in 1940 from Poland. A Catholic priest baptized the family because they were Jews. It's a delicate thing, source of shame because we lost the battle of France so fast, but yet De Gaulle is our "Hamilton or Washington" father of our free, proud and respected France (sorry for the long comment, so Manu things to say)

[@badluck5647]

The Berlin Olympics would make an interesting Megaproject.

[@loveluclins]

Should have just tried the CEO of IBM for warcrimes lol.

[@KingJohnMichael]

Technically he contributed to war crimes How he and IBM didn't got thrown in court is baffling to me

[@gamesman0118]

@@KingJohnMichael Money buys a lot of things. Politicians, judges, media silence and edited histories.

[@emr6153]

@@KingJohnMichael how did Werner von braun become not only an American citizen but a hero after clearly being a nazi? Easy, the United states needed him, so all was forgotten/ forgiven!!

[@trivialtrav]

@@emr6153 Von Braun joined the party out of necessity. It was the only way to continue towards his goal of spaceflight. That was his singular life goal and it's unlikely he was a fervent anti-Semitic rank file file member of the party. He would have been killed if he tried to leave and towards the end of the war that's exactly what the Nazis tried to do. He chose to surrender to the U.S. and give his knowledge to them. At most he's guilty of self preservation. He could have resisted, but that would have put his life and dream at risk. Being too afraid to risk your own life to help others is in no way the same thing as condoning or participating in the abuse of said people.

[@LENZ5369]

I mean the US was sheltering and employing literal Nazi war criminals; as in torturers and mass murderers, including the torturer of Rene Carmille -Klaus Barbie.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks

[@devikwolf]

René deserves to be better known. True heroism.

[@SirXCornflake]

Rene Carmille was a hero of the highest degree. He fought for no glory or personal gain, but for humanity itself. I only hope to live up to a fraction of this man's greatness

[@clueless4085]

Simon's color matching is ON POINT.

[@craigcampbell5937]

Today I found out about another hero, and corporate villain of WWII. Thank you! We all know of the Ford and GM factories, but IBM being more than complicit but active? Staggering!

[@christianbolt5761]

The big question is how much did IBM know about the totality of the Nazi monstrous actions. That is no excuse though, as they had made lots of known international crimes by this point.

[@prisonguardgus]

At some point they realized how bad things were and that no amount of discussion was going to change the direction. Watson returned his medal. IBM was fully bought into ending the war making M1 carbines, BARs, and norden bombsights for the allies, all for very little profit. Watson's son (TJ Watson Jr) was a B24 Pilot in the Army Air Force during WW II. Odd the video leaves all that out (but has several errors that look like they were copied from another erroneous website lol).

[@joels5150]

Shame there is a statute of limitations on war crimes, particularly actively assisting in genocide.

[@F14Goose37]

Hmm, makes you wonder how technology could be used in nefarious ways today. Nah, our big tech companies would never assist in committing atrocities for money and power. Would they?🤔

[@K9TheFirst1]

Certainly not in China, for China is the Best Friend of the World.

[@221b-l3t]

Boeing makes drones and bombs, heck GE made a large part of the nuclear arsenal. Jet engines, washing machines and h-bombs... they certainly diversified. Profit is profit.

[@annabell3385]

It's amazing to me that people send their genetic material to some random company full of strangers to find out their history when even filling out census data is too intrusive, imo.

[@thewhoppinator]

I have never heard Dachau said so many different ways in one video, I had a good chuckle

[@domonickmcgee8102]

I know it's happened before but it's funny when Simon let's out a little brain blaze energy when he reads something crazy

[@hg-yg4xh]

Wow, my IBM comments have been censored for as long as I can think and you get to make a whole video on it? Congrats, you beat the algorithm!

[@Crazt]

IBM only leased the machines never sold them and this was considered wrong in 1917. Now completely normal in 2021 but these companies will never admit it.

[@jack6539]

Some not so fun extra facts. In Dachau, the prisoner number tattooed on the arm started off being the IBM punchcard number. It's great to see you covering this. The evidence from IBMs own documentation is damning. Another key point is that one of the triggers for Rene camilles' arrest was the speed it took for the Free french army to mobilise in nigeria - the nazis twigged onto the fact that the FFA must have had deep demographic information to mobilise that quickly - which pointed them directly to Rene. Also, around 1943 Albert Speer the nazi armaments minister raised concerns that without the continued support of an alien company (IBM Dehomag), their war machine would grind to a halt within months - because they were totally reliant on the hollerith machines for logistics, train timetables etc. Many concentration camps had a hollerith machine department and the machines were serviced by an IBM Dehomag employee each month. Oh, and guess what company provided free language interpretation services for the neuremburg trials? You guessed it - IBM. Was any american company mentioned? Nope. On the other hand japanese companies who made arms in WW2 for their country - like mitzubishi were severely punished. I think Mitzubishi were unable to use their logo again until the 1960s from memory.

[@brianscoffield584]

Fascinating. Almost all of this was new to me. Many thanks.

[@waynesullivant]

I believe the punch card method worked wonderfully in Florida in 2000...

[@natasha09179]

Now do one on Big Pharma.

[@mudflapp]

Had no idea but kind of unsurprising. Money, money, money. IBM was originally located in the area I grew up, Southern Tier of NY. They dumped thousands of gallons of waste into the ground in Endicott where the plants still exist mostly abandoned today now that they've moved manufacturing elsewhere. They're still fighting to clean the plume up.

[@jaygatsby3039]

TIFO's research is always so airtight. Good luck guys, I get the feeling they'll try to threaten you or even sue you, but you have facts on your side. Love you and Daven

[@ensetaro]

There is a book tittled "IBM and the Holocaust" by Edwin Black published in 2001

[@JB-rl7hh]

It is scary to think how IBMs were used by the CIA.

[@IggyStardust1967]

Hey, Simon, as far as this channel goes.... and computers that "changed the world", you should delve into the Commodore computer company, and how it's Commodore 64 really put computers into the home for the causal user, and their later acquisition of the Amiga computer helped revolutionize not only the home computer, but usage and innovation of computers overall.

[@remo1366]

...and how digital video production and FX was thrust into the future when they established their partnership with Newtek and introduced the video toaster and Lightwave 3d. Just got rid of my 64's and I already miss 'em.

[@IggyStardust1967]

@@remo1366 I know how you feel, man! While I still have all of my old Commodore computers, none of them are currently functional. Also, I have to ask you......... is "Remo" a reference to The Destroyer novel series?

[@spacecaptain9188]

AGAIN I say we need to abolish these stupid time limits on prosecuting criminals!

[@Moto_Medics]

How was Ford a sympathizer, that’s the story I wanna hear.

[@kieronparr3403]

He wasn't just a sympathiser he was a full on nazi

[@LackofFaithify]

Unlike Watson, he didn't provide industrial/material support like helping the nazi's manufacture tanks, etc..., but rather Ford was a major...umm...intellectual?...pusher for the nazi's and antisemitism. Go find his lovely series of newspaper (he owned and edited it) articles: The International Jew.

[@kodygrorh4968]

Henry ford also wrote two books on antisemitism that Adolf read while he was in jail as a young adult for protesting.

[@nilus2k]

The difference between Watson and Ford is that Watson was just happy to cash Nazi checks, Ford was a big fan of the ideology as well

[@christophermerlot3366]

Or Walt Disney.

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

Excellent delivery of this information

[@padawanmage71]

IBM’s acronym should stand for ‘In Bed w/ Monsters’ I also didn’t know there was a statute of limitations on crimes against humanity.

[@davidb3979]

A statute of limitations on genocide! Wow that's ridiculous... I've never understood why any country would create a statute of limitations on any criminal behaviour.

[@williamthompson1455]

Because no country is safe. They all have done fairly recently. Just about every talk of a country that didn't ends up they where involved or did. They just have rose colored glasses on about their history or past. Kinda like alot of those today do about the 90s and 80s.

[@stevesloan7132]

When profit enters by the front door, ethics & morality exit by the back door.

[@Mr2Reviews]

Communism sucks, but this is another example of the downside of capitalism.

[@Nostripe361]

@@Mr2Reviews Problem is that there will never be morality in markets regardless of which system you use. But people want easy answers so blame the bad on the economic system they hate.

[@questioneverything4633]

@@Nostripe361 there can be morality, but it must be legislated. Until corporations stop controlling the legal system, it will never change.

[@Nostripe361]

@@questioneverything4633 I completely agree. What I meant was that I’m tired of people telling me that you can make an inherently good market by just choosing one or the other. You have to have laws to enforce morality even if 9 out of 10 companies don’t need it; cause that one immoral company will ruin it for everyone

[@od1452]

Now.. there's a Hero. Thanks for finding this story.

[@25jessieg]

Corporate America: Play both sides, you'll always come out on top.

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

I did a contract at IBM in Endicott in the early 80’s. I was surprised to see them still using punch cards.

[@chrissnyder8538]

Never doubt that one person can make a difference.

[@TownsGroup]

Rene Carmal a glass lifted. Well done Sir.

[@parthin]

The idea of not selling commercial products to certain countries came much later than this. Such restrictions come from the government, not private businesses. It would have been impossible to isolate Germany in this way at this time.

[@siecheil]

So we should have 6 mil cards with a 6 punched right? Where they at? And a way to confirm the 6 was used for what you say.

[@mr_biscuit]

If they weren't thrown away (they are a consumable) Most were likely burned before the Americans stormed the camps, or because they are this old, they probably will have decomposed or otherwise fallen apart (they are made of paper) unless they were given special archival treatment by a professional.

[@siecheil]

Mr_Biscuit how convenient

[@mississippirougarou]

@@mr_biscuit , That's always the case. We can accurately prove so many things but this particular era of history is written with conjecture and speculation. Curious

[@thegamemaster2000]

Is there a statue of limitations on emotional distress? Because that was fucking heart breaking m

[@Valveus]

Apparently at their visitor's centre there's an exhibition on the history of the company, but none of this is even mentioned

[@cobaltlukather9045]

i can just imagine some Nazi commander screaming "Verdammt Nedry!"

[@areasevenpro]

This video enraged Adolf's father, who punished him severely.

[@KellicTiger]

This needs to be a legit Hollywood movie. If we can make movies like Saving Private Ryan, 1917, Dunkirk, Enemy at the Gates, and Schindler's List, we damn well should be able to make something of this man's quiet heroics.

[@kevinjhonson5925]

I did not know the statute of limitations applied to war crimes. I never knew any of this happened. Pls do more vids like this I want to know who was directly in bed with them.

[@SevenStarMountain-X7]

I worked for IBM in the late 90s and early 2000s. I had read a book about this while working there. IBM tried very hard to sweep this history under the rug, but it's there for everyone to discover. I was removed from a meeting about the new Chinese plant and how "Of course we would never close this plant as it is our original site" when I pointed out about how they lied about their involvement with the Nazis, so I was pretty sure they were lying about closing the plant as well. Spoiler: They closed the plant that very same year, after training our Chinese replacements. (Which I refused to do.) Most companies are scummy and care only about profits, but IBM is particularly scummy. One might say they excel in scumminess.

[@kevinomara3293]

They are but they wern't always that way. I joined them in the 70s and it was the greatest company to work for but that changed.

[@Bacopa68]

The Lindbergh video plugged here is really good. Never knew he did so much medical stuff and also explains how he became so much a sympathizer.

[@MaxBrix]

"Don't buy IBM" suggests I should invest in ethical companies...

[@huntsbychainsaw5986]

Ethical company is an oxymoron.

[@MrCyclingobsession]

So bury your money in the back yard?

[@huntsbychainsaw5986]

@@MrCyclingobsession. Nope just accepted the fact that your living well on blood money and move on. I find a nice car, comfortable bed, and sweet BBQ helps a lot.

[@huntsbychainsaw5986]

@@MrCyclingobsession. Money doesn't buy happiness but poverty doesn't buy anything. So if I cry I'll cry into my aged single malt scotch and if I become depressed I'll contemplate the meaninglessness of life in my Alpha Romeo.

[@MaxBrix]

@@MrCyclingobsession My statement says nothing about burying money. The only thing I am saying is that many of the best investments are in unethical companies. Arguing about what yard to bury your money in is a straw man fallacy. If I argued that you are saying all companies are ethical that would also be a straw man fallacy.

[@TheRingDragon52]

My Grandfather, Charles Campbell was a major part of Hollerith planning and BTM.

[@guthrie2ndStreet]

History DOES repeat itself! Only this time it’ll be worse. Much worse.

[@MrJeffcoley1]

Not will be - is. Today's tech giants are handmaidens of the Chinese Communist Party. They not only help the regime in China, but extend their malign influence worldwide. And they do it joyfully.

[@harrietharlow9929]

Sadly, you're right. These things never get better. They generally tend to get worse and given how computers have gotten faster, governments will be able to involve more people more quickly than ever before.

[@harrietharlow9929]

@@MrJeffcoley1 Hey, Lenin did say that capitalists would be willing to sell the rope to hang them with. Nothing has changed since then.

[@krauthead4]

No kidding: censoring truth and pushing false narratives. Big tech has locked arms with evil to push medical tyranny.

[@natasha09179]

Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big Government have now commenced an orgy like never seen before. And the lemmings run off the cliff again.

[@memofromessex]

Very interesting. I'm a history nerd but I didn't know the depth that IBM played in the Holocaust. Horrific stuff.

[@Dragon.Slayer.]

It's sad how many people don't know this...

[@angelmarquez6000]

Just seen an ad for the ibm health pass. 😟

[@ronjon7942]

Simon’s reaction was similar to mine when I first learned that my employer at the time was so complicit. It was quickly sanitized on the internal w3 network. The research was spot on, plus this was the first time I heard Watson expressly had facilities built to protect company assets from a country trying to put an end to this madness. Nice work.

[@prisonguardgus]

I'd like to see the evidence about the facilities built to protect the machines. Several other key facts here are wrong, this looks sloppy research. IBM made M1 carbines, BARs, and norden bomb sights for the Allies, all at next to no profit. The picture of Watson and Hitler shown in video was from European Chamber of Commerce meeting. Watson wanted peace. When he realized there wasn't going to be any, he gave back the german medal and started shutting things down. His son was a WW II B24 pilot. The research was spot on, except where it was off by miles and years. lol

[@snarewizardgroulx7369]

Simon you are our Magellan

[@degarmo187]

I actually work for IBM, under the Watson Health umbrella. I'm kinda disturbed by all of this.

[@0BucketMask0]

When I was in 8th grade I met a kid that wanted to be a white hat hacker. He was pretty cool. I hope he got what he wanted and is helping people like he dreamed to as a kid.

[@Campzzyzx]

IBMs slogan to this day "We create solutions"

[@mandreadfg]

"Secret deals like the nazis and IBM" Immortal Technique, 2003