How The New Armor System REALLY Works In Patch 0.14

[@Gigabeef]

***THE PRESS VEST HAS BEEN FIXED BY BSG***

[@louisurquhart9466]

that's nice

[@Dizzeke]

Thank god for content creators like you, who knows how long it might have taken them to notice or do anything about it if they didnt see your video

[@127twilson]

​@Dizzeke BSG let the players find the bugs for them. To be fair, many devs do this since downloadable content became a thing. Lazy.

[@EnvyKoi]

do you know anything about level 6 plates and how those work exactly? yesterday i died twice to blunt dmg with a BR5 in the front on a M1 rig too 855, i havent caught or heard anything about them and have plenty if you would like to do some testing.

[@bladioYT]

I've been running the press with a class 4 front plate almost exclusively for the past week LOL had no clue I was running around with a PACA on my chest

[@MichaelgoestoBitburg]

About 80% of my deaths this wipe have been headshots. Almost every time I've worn a face shield it has saved my life. Face armor seems to be REALLY important.

[@philthethotdestroyer4194]

think about it, with plates stopping rounds and causing no damage then it is more likely to get shot in the face because of spraying rounds.

[@trashcompactorYT]

Face shield did not save a PMC against my M700 scav with bcp lol

[@MichaelgoestoBitburg]

@@philthethotdestroyer4194 yep.

[@MichaelgoestoBitburg]

@trashcompactorYT as expected. The best face shield you can get rn is only class 3, I think. Good enough to stop buck and low pen ammo, etc.

[@DropinNukes]

@@MichaelgoestoBitburgyou can buy the new mask off flea but it’s super expensive

[@Lawlbasaur]

Thank you for taking the time to demystify all of these nuances. The deep dive, summary and recommendations are so helpful. You're unparalleled for informative tarkov content creation. Much appreciated.

[@TarkovRaider7749]

Tldr: small plate carrier is going to the bottom of the chart while armor vests with alot of armored zones should be utilized as much as possible (avoid the Zhuk-3 Press for the time being)

[@Yelvis61]

Great video thank you and your team for doing this testing for the players

[@LewdSCP1471A]

I imagine the press armor is an easy fix, very cool and detailed system, i can't think of a game that does this any better right now.

[@cps22001]

​@@itsnotmily What exactly is not working other than press armor?

[@astrofiggy2321]

they fix it @@cps22001

[@abdou.the.heretic]

​@@itsnotmilytarkov is not your game, I have never played this game and only bought it about 2 weeks ago, everyone kicks my ass, I have yet to extract with anything, but I'd be lying to say I didn't immerse myself in every minute of gameplay, for a game to keep me hooked while NEVER WINNING is just different levels of gaming I never thought possible, yes I'm definitely biased because I have never experienced such a mechanic, maybe I'll hate it later, but for now I'm enjoying it. Two weeks of constant fun/dread is proof that the game is working to its aspiration to a very big capacity, sorry about the rant, EFT is just that different.

[@devious00]

@@abdou.the.heretic Tarkov is different but that doesn't make these additions better. All these new systems did was add more crap on their engine for their already strained servers to have to keep in sync and fail horrendously. Desync feels fucking horrible again this patch. They need to fix their servers before introducing more complex systems to them. Be great if they would fix their audio too before making other mechanics that just make the game more unnecessarily bloated.

[@kev1734]

@@abdou.the.heretic EFT is for masochists. From the UI to the main menu to actually playing. EFT is pain. EFT is life.

[@timofaust1315]

Me: I want to wear this armor, does it protect me? Everyone else: Wait, we have to consult an nano technology specialist who is currently consulted by Nasa to give you a solid answer. Just get head / eyes by scav shotgun instead.

[@PanzerPC]

This is so detailed and really fast information in a great format, never ending excellent content :)

[@cuteraptor42]

8:19 you can actually zoom a bit more with the R1500 by using a bug. Just use your "look around key" and then it will zoom the view even more by lowering the FoV. It might help viewers see accurately.

[@Ragnarokstar]

The one I've been waiting for! Thank you!

[@CellTank]

Amazing work Sir Beef, I can see this video becoming the go to for anyone who wants to truely understand how the new system works and what the intricacies of the various armours are.

[@kevinprather4836]

According to airwingmarine's video, the armors (Ex: MMAC) that have their soft armors appear as if they're hard plates in the "armor areas" also act as hard plates. They don't give you blunt damage on a non penetrating shot. It's also interesting that they have the same hitboxes. I wonder how effective these armored areas act with both the plate and the soft armor, considering the soft armor is acting as a plate it might take like 20 shots with a low pen ammo before you'd even take a single point of damage.

[@Gigabeef]

Yeah it's an interesting theoretical point although in practise I think it will matter rarely. You have to have a bullet stopped by the class 2 for this to happen, and I'm more concerned about the zero armor around the outside! But it is interesting indeed

[@Vesperninja]

​@@GigabeefAnd caring about the lack of protection outside the plate hitbox highlights the entire problem with the armor change in the first place. The armor system changed for the better but the health system did not. Plates are meant to protect your vitals so you can live to fight another day. But according to tarkov, thorax is thorax, so if I'm wearing a swimmer cut plate and take a round just under my collarbone, if it has enough flesh damage it kills me even though it didn't hit anything that would do any immediately lethal damage.

[@sptrm1230]

Great info, this mirrors what I've found looking in the game files and testing in SPT. I've been telling a friend of yours this stuff, not sure if he's relayed anything to you, but if you need/want any more info just let me know 😉 Side plates have two different formats, "high" and "low", which is why you observed some armors having different side armor coverage.

[@MechMK1]

I thought SPT wasn't on 0.14 yet?

[@sptrm1230]

@@MechMK1 dev test build

[@Lohengrinner]

Champing at the bit for SPT to update 😔

[@apozki9773]

bruh my go to has been press with level 4 front plates, guess ill switch to something else for the time being

[@akimbae]

bro has just not been wearing armour all wipe

[@ChannelMiner]

​@@akimbaei think it still has class 2 soft

[@TheKillboy1000]

nice paca with neck protection bro

[@smockytubers1188]

GIGACHAD@@akimbae

[@kamekazi1123]

Kirasa can carry plates and has neck protection and you can buy at lv2 Ragman

[@zebrajunk]

Strong information Tarkov that is well presented… well that must be a Gigabeef video :). Thanks for all the work on it.

[@Thomas-ts9tp]

Thank you for testing the Zhuk press. Good to have some corroborating information out there.

[@blackcatthegreat182]

what might complement these armor changes is a *vital hits* system, at it's most basic could be shots farther away from the center of the player do less damage. You can go more specific, like in the red orchastra/rising storm series, have spines, hearts, arteries and such modeled. But that might be going to deep for Tarkov. Armor being less protective and thats it in general seems goofy

[@josephmontanaro2350]

2:10 irl you might not get an actual concussion but your bells going to be rising if you catch shrapnel or even a round in your neck protector

[@GUDG161]

Best EFT channel out there no cap

[@0someperson0]

This is an amazingly intricate and informative video, thank you for uploading it. 🤝

[@McMeatBag]

Right now I'm liking the Kirasa. It's cheap, gives a decent amount of all around soft armor protection including the neck, and you can stuff a high level plate in the front and people might not notice so you can get it back in insurance more often.

[@olgagaming5544]

Well, Kirasa is T2 soft. I think Thor is the best, vest for around 70k on flea, T3 soft + very lightweight itself, only 2kg or somethjing like this. Only no neck protection but Kirasa was T2 anyway

[@olgagaming5544]

But I have to use vest-rigs myself for the climb extract... I usually like the lightweight option, if u get caught ure smoked anyway xD

[@Omni_Actual]

Thank you for putting the effort into this video. We needed it badly lol

[@tiba7347]

Damn quick and imformative

[@away8886]

Don't know how possible but how cool would a 3d vitals hitbox for players. Not for individual organs but just a smaller hitbox within the exsisting thorax/stomach hitbox. To prevent getting killed by grazing hits. There is a reason plates don't cover our whole chest.

[@Pira7eDuck]

Seems like it should be possible to have a smaller vital hitbox within the thorax. This would also serve to balance rigs like MMAC - so that we're not simply avoiding a whole list of armors just because they don't protect the full thorax hitbox. Plus cut out a lot of frustrating deaths. More realistic too (if we care about realism in a game).

[@pbplaya1344]

Someone has probably mentioned this already but what airwing found with the soft armors showing as front plate, the aramid soft armor actually acted as a hard plate, so with another plate it would give you essentially 2 hard plates. I think this is a bug but it makes more sense how it happened because its only on armors that the soft armor is the shape of the plate. There were some bugs of people getting 1 shot and a plate tanking high pen rounds that could explain some situations of people not thinking they are protected with these armors. Maybe it's meant to be that way and it gives you more protection were there's armor but less overall body protection.

[@tihollis]

These were mostly with certain rigs he identified

[@pbplaya1344]

@@tihollis I have no clue what you mean. Giga literally gives a list of the affected items. Airwing stated that he didn't know them all. However, Giga didn't mention this specifically and seemed to have a very negative opinion of armors that this happens to. I'm not sure giga fully understood how the soft armor is functioning on the affected armor that he stated, thus is why I made my comment. Idk what your statement is supposed to mean or add.

[@dmudda89]

W! Good job lads 'n lasses. ... Thank you for testing!

[@laatrommi]

great video thank you! love this new system but it's definitely confusing at first.

[@Aquila.]

Great video! Very informative.

[@The_Centurion_YT]

Congrats on 100k subs! :D

[@trathanstargazer6421]

I wonder if the... I forgot, it is the full coverage Redut armor. I noticed it has really high sides so I wonder if that'll have better side hitbox.

[@dic-vr2mx]

Best tarkov info youtuber ever fr

[@JaesNSC]

Thanks for all the hard work giga, this stuff is invaluable ❤

[@noodlebowls8896]

Airwingmarine got different results regarding the armor rigs such as the MMAC and TV-110, he said that these armors have a weird quirk where the soft behaves as hard plates, meaning they don't give blunt damage. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[@Gigabeef]

This may be true, I don't think that is opposed to what I've shown here which is more about the hitboxes

[@dannydean9465]

You shouldn’t listen to anything that guy says, he just talks absolute waffle and dick rides bsg 😂

[@steppbrooEFT]

Counterintuitive solution but maybe need hitbox should have damage split between head & thorax? That was you can't really onetap easily and it also still a somewhat critical shot like it should be realistically.

[@Dyils]

Thanks a lot for the investigation. This info is huge and exactly what we need! Key timestamps: - 1:18 for soft armor coverage - 3:58 for FRONT plate coverage - 8:54 for SIDE/FRONT plate coverage Your investigation on coverage is great to know, we have an objective way of knowing what's protected now instead of guessing. 3:58 is the reason I was against this armor system in the first place. The plate covers all vital areas. Damage beside it shouldn't be able to kill you any faster than damage to the arm. But Tarkov doesn't have the hit boxes to support that so you end up with an inconsistent mess where you can get 1 tapped around the plate and near the armpit. When in reality, that should be just a flesh wound. As it stands, a plate fails to do what it was designed to do - save your life. Because irl it covers all vital areas. But in Tarkov, it doesn't, cause the "vital area" is bigger than it should be.

[@hoggusrampant]

Any hit to the armpit will lay you out. You'd bleed to death in seconds.

[@ShadowScript]

would like to see what armour or what ever your talking about e.g ammo and stuff you recomend using at the end to the videos

[@EokaBeamer69]

Greetings to the boys from the discord. :)

[@Chilionloppu]

So the real takeaway for getting optimal protection on vitals is to use western armor with neck and arm protection, like Osprey and Gen4 Assaut. Sad to see side plates are not that useful, since the sides are super exposed right now.

[@Gigabeef]

I'm using them because they're cheap on the traders and they do help vs stomach, but yeah if you get shot in the thorax above you're gonna have a bad time regardless

[@spacemonkey037]

They undeniably increases your protection. And since they all are either class 5 or 6, they often are the most protected area of your PMC. 8:55. The hitbox isn't small at all, they're about half the stomach protection that the SAPI plates (FR. FRONT) gives. And so at least having one on the left side might save you from time to time considering how the PMC stance is so angled.

[@markmacdonald6036]

Only problem I've found running the osprey and gen4 is that you go into raids already overweight 😢 Not to mention when people see them they 100% loot them from you. The thor is class 3 soft armour and ends up being like 7kg, but no neck protection from memory. The Zhuk and redut are also class 3 with neck protection and come out lower weight than the osprey/gen4

[@xr3la]

The NFM Hjelm helmet is bugged in the same way, missing the NAPE armor zone. I already reported the bug a few days ago, please also do so it doesn't go unnoticed. However I must disagree with some of your points regarding the usability of different vests. Personally I think that the MMAC-style rigs with no general "thorax" protection are quite viable due to their light weight, integrated pockets, low price and easy accessibility. I run these all the time and have no complaints so far, except for CQC, where armors with more coverage are now necessary.

[@spacemonkey037]

For sure they are viable, but if you're looking for protection they actually offer the lowest overall armor coverage.

[@williamfinucane]

Nice work dudes

[@novver]

So what armor should we use?

[@xshangheighx]

This is a great video! As cool as hitting that realism itch is, idk about this new armor system. Needs a MASSIVE rework.

[@dotawin8406]

It seems decent, in what way do you think it needs the be reworked?

[@davissonlam]

No it doesn't, it's way better than the previous system.

[@gilsongabriel5843]

​@@dotawin8406Terrible aim player comments

[@dotawin8406]

@@gilsongabriel5843 me? I'm just curious why OP thinks the system needs a 'MASSIVE rework'

[@jonesy279]

I love and appreciate your Tarkov science! Great work as always ❤

[@MillsTC]

I was intrigued when you say the Press Armour is bugged, since that's an Armour I use heavily. I just booted up Tarkov to check since I've got like 5 or 6 Press Armours in my stash, from all sources, being ones that are crafted, found in raid and ones that i've took into raid and repaired the damage. All of them are still displaying that the Zhuk-3 Plate is covering F.Plate...How odd.

[@Gigabeef]

They've just fixed it after all the videos on it!

[@fankgaming7753]

Dunno. The plate carriers are generally lighter. I mean, I have a plate that with a full kit, keeps me at 18 KILOS! 18! I can loot so much but still stay under the encumbrance thresh hold, allowing me to stay dead quiet. I see your points and appreciate them, but if this is intended weight values, I think I'm gonna prefer plate carriers over the larger body armours every single time

[@felipeencalada9538]

there is a bug, that when you enter to the new vehiculee in streets, the scarvs snipers shoot you and you armor get the damage, but the HP of the pmc not, anyone whit the same problem?

[@computer-qy4je]

awesome stuff bibageef 👍

[@CorruptionAura]

I am really sad, I had a press plate with t5 front and back and was nuked through the front chest last week, thought I was hit through the shoulders but might not have been

[@gumpable]

I'd love to see some testing how easy it is to slip flesh rounds past the new armor system.

[@kev1734]

The ppsh melts people man. Most of the time you're spraying from a decent distance so you're hitting limbs anyway.

[@capt5656]

If what beef showed is true for all hitboxes, it's still basically the same as before besides the armpit, or if they don't have neck protection.

[@Good.shepherd420]

The 1 thorax death ive had this wipe was a 6b23 with class 4 plates, but scav had bt ammo.

[@noobguy9973]

Bullets going through the arm into the chest gives me many Insurgency Sandstorm flashbacks where you run around with heavy armor with full hp just to get 1 tapped by a 9x19mm berretta because it when through your unarmored arm and hit your inner organ like lung or even worse heart.

[@sethdyer8828]

I think I’ve only died to thorax 4-6 times this wipe. 2 shoulders but every single death has been a headshot other than that

[@Tsumetaiyoru]

Another day, another video about how armor works. I love this wipe.

[@ChiefBigBeef]

Majority of my deaths are just instant kills and it's discouraging me from playing anymore honestly "It's more realisitic hurr durr" sure it is but I don't want to spend 6 raids 30 minutes each just to try and complete ONE QUEST where I NEED to extract alive otherwise it resets. It's already such a time intensive game and to make it even easier for people to kill you it just sucks to play right now. I have 37 million and taking in 600k kits where an example death being I got killed in less than 3 seconds and the guy somehow killed me through my fkin armpit?? I had a full tier 4 helmet and visor with tier 6 armor in front and a 300k gun and still died that quick it's just not fun anymore.

[@NDAWELOL]

Best video so far!

[@soap6264]

I love the system but I wish they made it so you can see the coverage of plates on the vests Model while modding it

[@themeatpopsicle]

This is the most ambitious armor system in any FPS, yeah? I'm sure all of this will change in some regard as they tune it. Nice work figuring all of this out!

[@Haloowner234]

I want to know how I took a round to the helmet that somehow also oranged my chest

[@orionblu3]

Wait... Neck isnt counted as the thorax?

[@Gigabeef]

Nope neck is head. Deadly!

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

So the bsg straight up lied when they wrote that armor hit zones are identical to visual coverage of the armors

[@superbodaciousflibbertigib8139]

Found a lvl 6 plate a few days ago that fit in the press rig and went to put it in, but it only fit in the back so I decided not to run it for now. A blessing in disguise I suppose.

[@mrwheatley4520]

Could you test arm pen more cause im 99.9% sure that any bullet can pen a arm if its blacked out no matter the pen and if the bullet blacks out the arm in one shot it will also pen the arm and deal full damage to your chest

[@Minihornet]

I cant help but notice the shift on the vss.

[@ItsMinoAgain]

So the armour doesn't even cover where it covers, its Just the old system with more segmented hitboxes lol

[@NoisR]

for the zhuk press the right plate is also not showing up

[@Dethecus0]

With all the research you've been doing I think you deserve the title of "Penetration Expert", you should definitely put it on your business cards.

[@Alphacuremom55]

😂

[@MBDieselFreak]

The biggest issue with this new system that im seeing, is that the ballistics calculations are no longer predictable. Previously, if you shoot someone wearing a 6B13 with SNB, you would see the exact same result every single time so long as armor durability was consistent between tests. Now, you have 3+ different outcomes to the same exact test. That not only makes it virtually impossible to know if what happened in a test is CORRECT, but it also leaves a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the player on whether or not the way the player died was fair or not.

[@oxy728]

Exactly. I do think that it’s great that it’s more realistic and intricate, but I don’t think it’s time for such things, because truly I don’t have faith that BSG can ensure these outcomes are consistently accurate.

[@Tolya1234]

Which is why anti cheat and fair way of checking (killcam post match for example) if your death was legit or not even more important.

[@hungryhedgehog4201]

I hope they give us the option to get plate carriers without the plates and maybe have some sort of hideout craft for new but less advanced plates. Just cut out some steel with a torch., would like to see more makeshift stuff in the game.

[@Muncoo]

I've had multiple instances this wipe where i get killed in unbelievable ways. One tapped in armpit with a grach pst gzh bullet when i was wearing t4 armor. 2 tapped through level 5 armor with m856 in thorax. Something's not working :D

[@bEanVEVO]

Feeling the MMACs (and similar armors) lack of thorax protection, got one tapped by quakemaker to the thorax.

[@karkinos5398]

Just got out of raid 1 taping thorax with ps12 on a dude with MMAC

[@atatame]

Thanks for the explanation. But this armor system is too complicated for me.

[@spacemonkey037]

I did a lot of the background research for the armor hitzone system shown in the video, if I were to draw out the very most important thing to know, it's that the visual models are irrelevant, only look at the "armor areas" just like you would for helmets. Think the whole "ears" situation on helmets. And generally for maximum protection go with armor that have at least these armor areas covered: "Thorax", "Throat", "Neck", "FR. PLATE", "L/R Shoulder".

[@fazhenghan8123]

Try to hit the 6B13 with PS12B on the front plate at zero distance, then do the same thing with trooper (both with default level 4 plates). This will change your mind.

[@davidebonanni9266]

The trooper it’s better?

[@fazhenghan8123]

nope, default plate of 6B13 can stop PS12B 15/15 times as we tested. While it can one shot trooper with level 4 SAPI plates almost everysingle time.@@davidebonanni9266

[@Karl-88]

Your an absolute nerd Giga and I love it! Great work mate.

[@spacemonkey037]

Awesome vid!

[@AlexP-ep9ud]

I have been dying so much while wearing full HP Press vests... Also, on the subject of arms, I have died at close range from someone shooting my blacked out arm, the damage was distributed, and the bullet overpenetration into my full HP thorax killing me in one shot (LPS GZH - 81 dmg). I was wearing a press vest, so this was likely a no armor situation.

[@gudguygreg]

The level 5 SAPI side plates from PK3 saved me from an SVT man who mag dumped me with LPS. I'm going to run them forever now.

[@Kanzuke]

Press vest has just been fixed!

[@l0stlevels]

so what are some go to class 4 and 5 armor vests for u guys?

[@dantauche7917]

Press vest

[@l0stlevels]

@@dantauche7917 blud i watched the video

[@littletimmy9686]

I died the other day while where the Osprey rig to 366 fmj in one shot to the left armpit hitbox😂

[@luisesteves5807]

i played the entire early wipe with the zhuk, that means that i played the entire early wipe WITHOUT ARMOR, thank you bsg.

[@Mrcornbread31Corn-gz5pr]

I’ve been wondering why my piranha shells absolutely shredding armor

[@martinleland3969]

I've had my zhuk plate get damaged in a real raid before thoo?

[@kismachaddis]

Has anyone else noticed tier 5 just not working? I have many low pen rounds penetrate against full hp korunds.

[@kismachaddis]

and when i say low pen, I mean like the x18 p round with 5 pen

[@memnoninaros1034]

good stuff bro

[@thomasproctor56]

If I get one tapped in the throat one more time by an AI scav i'm going to SCREAM!

[@abadonael]

So what is the best price/quality armor at the moment? Class 4 and above

[@Gigabeef]

Cheapest easy runner is the ULEY honestly. Inbuilt only, but class 4 all over the coverable hitboxes is powerful - gives 2 neck as well. Otherwise it's probably kirasa with 2x class 4 sapi plates front & back. They just fixed the press though so you can use that with side plates too if you want

[@abadonael]

​​@@Gigabeef got it! I have been using 6b13 flora (with class 4 plates) until now, but now will try your variants, thx

[@Gigabeef]

6b13 is fine tbh and there are advantages to having plates but I think the western ones are better for a) the hitbox reasons in the video and b) you can swap front to back if they get damaged

[@abadonael]

@@Gigabeef omg swapping is genious! just tested it, i never thought it would be possible, thx!

[@253MC]

i fought 2 naked pmcs on factory. they were both doing the pistol kills mission. i had decentish ammo(545 T i think) but they were both bullet sponges? i killed the first and died to his friend. Afterwards, it said i did 250 damage, and 300 was absorbed… they were both totally naked, just running a pistol. Is this meant to happen? i only have a couple hundred hours over about 5 wipes so i’m not completely sure.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

You just got Tarkov'd.

[@Slipzedits]

needed to put in plate carriers explains why i’ve been dying within the first 5 seconds of a fight 🤦‍♂️

[@CheesusTheRatJesus]

Okay now I get it lol, it's just more ways for you to die, got it thanks bsg 👍🏼😂😂

[@Kalashnikov9111]

Same problem as with a press vest is hjelm is missing nape zone and ronin is missing face zone.

[@SleepyGameFacts]

I KNEW that something was wrong with my Press armor. Scavs would one shot me in "Chest" with full front plates. Time to dump it all on Flea

[@ceepert2153]

What about the armors with only built in armor at class 4 armor? There everywhere where the armor its class 4 (throat still class 2 usually) Is that maybe more valuable as you cant get lucky onetapped by a scav with lead slugs as often

[@umbrella4407]

EDIT: I'm dumb and thought the class 4 armored rigs also used plate hitbox, but it seems they give complete coverage of the listed areas. Probably makes things like the Uley pretty handy.

[@bRaf777]

6B5-15 Zh-86 Uley armored rig is the best bang for your buck, low market price, always comes back on insurance, saved my ass lots of times this wipe

[@lilcal20]

The armour system in general just confuses me as a casual player, what armour should we use at say level 15?

[@Sakattack2023]

The best armor.

[@johnwarthunder1990]

side plates are bugged on the press armor as well, one of them also doesn't work. don't remember which one.

[@dantauche7917]

Left side

[@germanyman2361]

I've pretty much exclusively been running press vest because of the modularity and protection areas, and now I find out this 😭😭

[@umbrella4407]

It's been fixed pretty sure.

[@secfeed6987]

so it doesnt really matter the shape of the armor your wearing, but only its protection zone and the plate type, durability etc, got it. From what I understand, all zones are fixed to square or diamond zones.

[@wadimek116]

If you use shotguns with express buckshot on average gunfight it doesn't matter what other side is wearing, they will hit thorax no matter what and go through the armor somehow

[@ThePba4747]

Yesterday I put Korund V front and back plates inside 6B23-1, and I die by 2 shots from scav using 7,62x39 PS ammo at chest. Second raid almost die, by single shot in chest by scav, and then die by single shot M62 round in chest. Looks bugged for me too.

[@Eudaimonium]

Remember, just because it says "chest" on the death screen, doesn't mean you got shot in the plates. 7.62 PS will easily penetrate the class II soft protection around the plates, or even unprotected areas, and it still counts as "chest". Now, granted, scavs have been abnormally cracked this wipe and I'd rather face down some players than 3 scavs locking on to me, but the entire point of the new armor system still stands and what you're describing is expected, as explained in this video.

[@dantauche7917]

Not bugged, wouldn't even say unlucky. What you're describing sounds like it's working as expected

[@ThatMikeMacKenzie]

Very informative video and helped me a lot but even as a 7 years EFT veteran I am having trouble figuring out the different plate materials, this is probably the 5th video I am commenting on because there is no information about it, what material for the plates is the "best" or the most recommended?

[@Gigabeef]

We don't know yet it's very confusing at the moment