How the Pricing of an ETF Works - Basics of Stock Market Investing (WHAT DETERMINES ETF SHARE PRICE)

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I watched 5-6 videos, but the ETF redemption, creation and arbitrage process is just explained flawlessly in this video!

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[@lucafogliati6050]

This is the most complete and clear explanation i've eveer seen about NAV and all its related things.I've been watching videos and reading books (and buying ETF) for almost 3 years now but i was still missing some clearness . Thank you very much!

[@sgpleasure]

At 6:45, assume the current price of ETF is $25.00, more buyers than sellers, and I am a retail buyer, what limit price should I set to purchase? I am guessing at $25.00 the AP will not do the Creation. At too high above $25.00 I stand to earn lesser. I sometimes see the ASK price is at-least 1% above the BID price. What are the considerations for a buyer when setting a Limit Buy price? Thanks

[@fu-academy]

Hey ufoubo! Thanks for your comment. That's a very good question - really! But I usually don't try to look at ETF purchases on such a granular level. I usually buy them through a savings plan via dollar-cost averaging. If you go for any of the well-known brokers, the bid-ask spread shouldn't be too bad. But I will make a dedicated video on the hidden costs of trading apps where the bid-ask spread is one of them. So stay tuned✌️

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One of the best videos explaining how ETF work in-depth. Very nice, thank you.

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At last !!! One clear explanation on the nav and market price that i've been looking for. Thank you for that.

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[@roy87345]

Very helpful and clear

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[@jimmypeach8838]

If an ETF is priced twice another ETF but have same S&P500 funds and both go up $1 doesn't that favor the cheaper stock? or do they not both go up $1 even same funds... confused lol.

[@paritoshsharma3326]

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[@vivizth]

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[@cherrelle2276]

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[@fissoleouf23]

Great video ! Thank you so much ! I just have one question: if we consider the particular case where the ETF shares are at premium (more worthy than the securities), what's the benefit for the ETF Provider to exchange Securities against new ETFs? Is the provider obliged to do so? Can it refuse new ETF creation? Thanks !!

[@abdulrahmany4315]

Thanks that is helpful

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Very good video, I think the flow chart looks slightly different in Australia but a good starting point. I like (I think thumbed uped all of them) all your technical explanation video's (like the SPAC one). Keep them up, will share these when they are relavent.

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[@marymilner6966]

very informative - wish it also contained a transcript

[@fu-academy]

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[@kalvaxus]

9:57 because of the bull and bear icons, I know understand why they choose it. They way those animals stand makes their backs go up or down.

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[@fredwang2004]

Great explanation!

[@slg_sasha]

Thanks a lot man

[@mahmoodmamoon8689]

You earned a subscriber.. Keep up the good work. Also would like to hear your views on more specific and focused ETF like GIGO, thanks

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[@Robolearning]

Thanks god you clarified my life long doubt on how etf works in conjunction with share price and direct listing in stock mkt. This is by far one of the best video I have encountered . But I still have one doubt - What happens if the share related to ETF are listed in a foreign country and ETF is listed in another country ? how it works ? I means the pricing balancing part becomes complicated ? If the share related to ETF are traded in day time in one country . There will be changes in the price of share . Will that impact the ETF which will be traded in another country are their night time. I understand that the balance will happen if the ETF is under selling or buying pressure demand. But will there be any impact if the share linked to ETF are also going thru the price changes due to share level trading ? There are three things here. The company share linked to mutual fund and that mutual fund is traded in exchange as an ETF. Request you to please clarify this too. Thanks

[@coconutfing]

Great explanation and thank you! One question: in 10:54 do you mean passively managed ETFs can keep less cash than actively managed ETFs and mutual funds? Or are you comparing ETFs as a whole with mutual funds?

[@fu-academy]

Hey yuyu! Thanks first of all for your feedback - that really means a lot to me🙌 Thanks also for your excellent question. I was more so referring to keeping cash in general - regardless of the fund structure. Even an active managed ETF provider could park cash temporarily to wait for a good buying opportunity. The "parking time" of that cash (as it's not generating any substantial return) is costing the investment firm return - regardless if it's an actively managed ETF or mutual fund.

[@franciscogomes4416]

I did not understand. I am still a newbie on stock market. Thanks anyways ...... Could you please suggest any book on this subject? Great job

[@fu-academy]

Hey Francisco! Thank you so much for watching the video and leaving a comment. That's great that you are a newbie in the stock market. Getting started is the hardest part. I would suggest you watch these 2 beginners video on how the stock market works and how ETFs work: - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnfUhZaserWta8U - kzbin.info/www/bejne/amLZmZKaZ8SDr6s

[@seek3n]

I wanna know how does underlying holding affects the etf. Like arkk

[@deangelo732]

This is a great material. In the redemption explanation, unclear why the ETF provider will ask AP to buy the underlying shares, wouldnt it be a sell underlying securities. The good news is that it is summarized correctly at the end of the video as "elimination" meaning selling.

[@wensonchang6077]

GREAT VIDEO! how would this work for a fixed income ETF?

[@fu-academy]

Hey Wenson! Thank you so much for your comment. The process is fairly similar when it comes to fixed income ETFs. There is a good read from State Street on this topic: www.ssga.com/library-content/story/general/etf/emea/spdr-fixed-income-etf-mechanics.pdf

[@fu-academy]

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[@mjan1509]

Great explain. 1 question. Bank is holding the underlying shares of ETF, so when share companies declared dividend, bank received the dividend. Please explain how this dividend is distributed to etf investor if etf is growth (not dividend option)

[@ianauandrei]

Indeed great info and other comments reflect this. One video would be nice the regulation of these etfs and the security of these etfs. Like UCITS etfs are certainly regulated.

[@fu-academy]

Hey Ianau! Thanks first of all for watching the video and your comment. I'll take this on my list of ideas for new videos - that's super valuable feedback👌

[@trace.l1977]

If the price doesn't matte and have similar return, does it mean better buy lower price one, so I can own more stocks instead of purchasing the higher price one?

[@fu-academy]

Hey Trace.L. Thanks for watching the video. The price of 1 share is not really the determining factor. You can buy 10 shares that are priced $1 or 1 share that is priced $10. What matters is your total investment amount and how much total return (capital appreciation + dividends) that invested money gives you over time.

[@trace.l1977]

@@fu-academy thanks let me think about it.

[@qtqy3408]

Interesting and simple explanations. How can one become an AP to take advantage of the arbitrage trades?

[@fu-academy]

Hey QTQY! Thank you very much for watching the video and your feedback🙌 There are some high-frequency traders that take advantage of mispricings in the market. But to be very honest with you: That's not my field of expertise as I'm fully focused on long-term investment strategies. If you're interested in that too, then subscribe and check out my other videos😃

[@jesuscastellanos6614]

Thanks for sharing that great video!!!!, just 1 question, if a expense ratio of an etf is .2%, is that .2% divided by 12 months? Meaning that .2% is an annual fee.... is that right?

[@fu-academy]

Hi Jesus! Thank you very much first of all for your question - really good one! Typically, the expense ratio of ETFs or index funds is the annual fee unless it's explicitly stated differently. Let me know if you have any other question. Also, consider subscribing - if you haven't already done so - for more videos like this :-)

[@sarahhare50]

If APs have to step in and buy stocks to form new ETF units (if none exist on the secondary market at sufficient volume), at what price should you offer to buy the ETF for? Will Market Markers ever sell at the iNAV? (even if the secondary price is more than the iNAV)

[@dejviddejvich573]

So in theory an etf provider can create new shares and devaluate existing price of an etf share?

[@sterpumihai]

Hi, in Romania the only available ETF which follows the BET index has a TER of.. 1.51%! In this video, you mention that even active funds have a TER of 0.78%. How do you explain such a difference?

[@clubedoinvestidor_br]

Great explanation. You got a subscriber from Brazil :) One question from a beginner. If an ETF Price to Book ratio is 4 (for example: VOO), does it mean that if you buy the amount of stocks with the exactly % of the ETF, it would cost 4 times cheaper?

[@fu-academy]

Hey Fala Investidor! Greetings to Brazil! So happy to hear that you are watching and enjoying my video💪 This is a very good question. The PB ratio of an ETF is the weighted average of the PB ratios of all the stocks in that ETF. It doesn't represent a discount or premium of an ETF compared to the underlying assets. Because of the creation/redemption process, you usually only have a tiny tracking error. So if the VOO has a PB ratio of 4x, then the underlying assets / index (in this case the S&P 500) should have an almost identical PB ratio of 4x. I hope this answers your question? Let me know if anything is unclear 🙃

[@clubedoinvestidor_br]

@@fu-academy Thank you for your answer. It helped a lot! Apparrently what I was thinking is the NAV, that's how you evaluate if you have discount or premium in a ETF compared to its assets right?

[@fu-academy]

Hey Fala Investidor! Yes, exactly! If the price of an ETF is trading above NAV, then the ETF is trading at a “premium.” If the price is trading below NAV, then the ETF is trading at a “discount.” But in general, ETFs trade close to their fair value, and premiums or discounts are only short-lived. I hope this helps 🤜🤛

[@clubedoinvestidor_br]

@@fu-academy helped a loot! Thank you!!

[@fu-academy]

Always💪

[@RajatGiri-f5f]

What if the AP or the ETF provider suddenly start manipulating the number of outstanding shares to jack up prices, but the shares that the ETF has actually invested in are not performing well? I mean, tracking is one aspect of pricing, creation and redemption is another. What if the two aspects do not fit well?

[@NewWorldDevL]

If a ETF were to drop massively in price would this also cause the stocks within the ETF to also drop in value?

[@fu-academy]

This is such an excellent question and shows your good understanding of this topic. This is exactly the point that Michael Burry (from the movie "The Big Short") made. ETFs, in theory, can cause a liquidity risk for companies that are included in an ETF in an event where ETF prices would drop dramatically. This is not so much of a problem for larger companies since they are so frequently traded outside of ETF capital flows, but could be a problem for smaller companies that are not frequently traded and receive all these massive capital flows from ETFs. On the other side, most ETF providers don't even bother buying the smallest companies in an index and do "sampling" instead. So, there is not a clear yes or no answer here. However, I'm literally working on a video for this topic "ETF Bubble in 2021?" and this will be released soon. This video will explain the whole subject and analyse the risks for normal investors like you and me. Feel free to subscribe to my channel so that you won't miss the video!!! :-)

[@NewWorldDevL]

@@fu-academy you have no idea how hard I have been searching for this answer thank you! now lets take this concept one step further lets say TZA goes through and does a reverse stock split of lets say 8:1 causing the price of the shares to go up while decreasing the shares available in that ETF would the company's that make up that ETF be artificially raised by this action without diluting the share for those who are actually holding shares in the company i.e. any company in the Russel 2000 index that is apart of TZA

[@fu-academy]

​@@NewWorldDevL First things first: I would be very careful with leveraged or inverse ETFs as they can cost you a lot of money if you don't get the market timing right - and no one can time the market. Now, stock splits or in this case reverse stock splits don't have an impact on the company's valuation (market cap). Only the number of shares changes, i.e. the share price. If Company A has 1m shares and a market cap of $100m, then the share price will be $100. If it does a 2:1 stock split, the number of shares will go up to 2m. The share price will go down to $50, but the market cap is still $100m. The same methodology applies to reverse stock splits.

[@NewWorldDevL]

@@fu-academy but if the ETF does a reverse stock split the number of shares changes and so does the price to correlate like in your example of 2:1 but the number of shares of each company remains the same for example let's say ETF X has 100 shares of Company X inside it but ETF X has 100 shares that ppl could buy with the value of ETF X being 100$ they do a reverse stock split of 2:1 ETF X now is worth 200$ with 50 shares available for purchase but ETF X still contains 100 shares of Company X valued at a higher price while contained in the ETF if rebalanceing were to take place wouldn't this theoretically drive up the price of Company X? I'm so sorry if this makes no sense I'm unironicly retarded.

[@fu-academy]

@@NewWorldDevL Thank you very much for your question. I think I understand your question a bit better now. I wouldn’t look at it from a share price perspective but from the underlying value perspective. A reverse stock split, in theory, doesn’t affect the underlying value of an asset. It’s also not part of the traditional creation redemption process. The underlying value has not changed due to increased / decreased demand by investors. They still remain in balance and the market maker doesn’t have to use arbitrage to calibrate the values. (Reverse) splitting a stock just means that you alter the number of shares without affecting the underlying value of both, the ETF share and the company included in the ETF. I hope this makes sense.

[@BriansWealthJourney]

Right now the Spot ETF's are only allocating 1-3% toward Bitcoin. Later they might offer 4,5 or even 10%. So to me it doesn't make sense to invest in such a low allocation in Bitcoin. Get it from a reputable exchange.

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If you’ve got patience I believe it’s a great time to invest… I’m no expert but as Warren buffet said he’s seen this happen a number of times throughout his life

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FU too!

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FU stands for Financial Understanding? Lol

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Hey Solenya! Of course, it means exactly that and nothing else😁😁

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[@M87user]

So basically ETFs are a scam, since they can be created at whim and the price depends on the supply demand (not only the value of the participating stocks).

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Great explanation, thank you!