How the Redesigns Saved Ninjago

[@NinjaColeYT]

Sorry I changed the thumbnail and title! The video wasn't doing well out of the gate so I changed somethings to hopefully make it more clickable 😅 What do you think of the redesigns?

[@micah0000]

As someone who hasn't watched the show since around the beginning of season 3 was airing, learning about the redesigns gave me whiplash. Like, wow they really did change a lot when I wasn't able to watch cable for... Almost a decade maybe? I didn't know they already changed Zane's design significantly in season 4 so that was a big surprise to learn as well. For the redesigns, they all look great except I do have some nitpicks with Jay's. I love Jay's new hairstyle and the fact he has freckles now but little me thought the eyebrow notch was really cool at the time and knowing that they got rid of it kinda makes me a little bit sad because he was my favorite ninja back then. Honestly, seeing your videos make me want to watch Ninjago again! Though I'm a tiny bit afraid cause I've heard rumors about Jay in later seasons that make me a little worried lol.

[@legofan9606]

Redesign are pretty good I finish watching Lego Ninjago (not the Masters of Spinjitzu I watched that a while ago) But after watching the show I kinda grew the likeing to the redesigns.

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

GREAT NINJACOLER THE RESIGNED NINJAGO CHARACTERS.

[@Wooty_burner]

bro how does ur alt have more subs then ur main

[@boomgirlbucko]

What was the original title?

[@purplef0xx]

The only complaints I still have about the new designs are Jay losing his eyebrow notch, Jay's hair drastically changing colour, Kai’s plaster (bandaid) that he seriously needs to take off and while Nya's hair is much better in every way, I don't like that it is the same as Pixal and Tox's old hair

[@senittoaoflightning4404]

The colour didn't change that much, just a little darker, the show never gave him the orange he had in the sets.

[@Shaia_TeamLCE]

1. Jay’s hair is the same color 2. Nya’s hair is not the same as Tox’s or Pixal’s old hair. She’s the first person to have her hair, then they changed Pixal’s hair to Nya’s new hair in S8. Tox’s hair stayed the same

[@herowither12354]

Jay's hair was always brown in the show. The sets were just inaccurate.

[@daseanharris9280]

Nya hair is a new mold look at the comparison to pixels old hair

[@senittoaoflightning4404]

@@Shaia_TeamLCE Tox did get new hair this year, though it is very different from Nya's.

[@AlfonzoFrohicky]

Who originally decided to give nya the swiper no swiping cocomelon cut💀

[@waqarchughtai440]

What?!?!

[@darkhoodiexxx2912]

@@waqarchughtai440bro frr is was diabolical

[@DEADLYSTORM22]

That description was diabolical ☠️

[@MEM-brain]

The only 3 nit-picks I have with the redesigns are that: -they removed Jay's eyebrow notch. -didn't give Nya a unique hair peace -(from season 11 onward) remived Cole's lazy eyes (they where added in season 8)

[@StevenJones851]

Agreed

[@Ninjagosuperfan2008]

Learn how to spell kid💀

[@viqeteq]

That nya hairpiece actually was made for her

[@Sawysauce465]

Nya actually did have her own hairpiece, sure it’s similar to previous hairpieces, but it’s not 1-1 alike

[@Master0fB8ers]

The only problem I have with the redesigns is literally just Jay’s eyebrow notch healing And it isn’t even a real problem it’s just nitpick

[@neonjays]

I like to think he was shaving the notch manually (I did this as a teen)

[@Master0fB8ers]

@@neonjays he probably thought it looked cool & edgy and that it would help him pick up chicks

[@alexthedemon2203]

@@Master0fB8ers despite having been dating Nya for like multiple seasons at this point

[@Master0fB8ers]

@@alexthedemon2203 to be fair he could still do it because it looked cool and edgy and Nya did listen to a computer and caused a love triangle

[@StevenJones851]

That's true

[@nickklaf5720]

Another thing is that Kai's og show hair wasnt even made with the sets in mind and when they made it, it wasnt accurate so it wasnt made to last, it had to be redesigned.

[@shortstackofpancakes13]

Since Kai’s modern hairpiece was made for the movie, and didn’t have the show in mind, it isn’t accurate to the show either. It is dark brown in the sets while it’s reddish brown in the show. It also is way taller in the sets/movie which I don’t like. Luckily, the headband hairpiece is accurate in length, just not color.

[@Fiyah123]

İt is good we had a remodel for his hair it was really awful he could impale someone with that hair

[@Derp-rz1nn]

His old hair was wayyy better, his new hair is so dumb 😭

[@SolarisIsBasic]

Kai, Nya, and Lloyd's old hair, I hated those with a passion. They need to fire their barbers immediately

[@Ruben99677]

@@Derp-rz1nn nah

[@theghostwiththemost789]

I thought the new designs were very jarring at first, but I did get used to them after awhile. After all this time, I do prefer most of the new designs over the old ones. I have a few complaints like Kai having a permanent Band Aid on his face is kind of weird but overall they’re pretty good. Except for Jay’s. I think Jay‘s old design was way better. His new one isn’t bad by any means but I just think the old one was a lot better. A part of it could also be how I associate Jays new design with how horribly flanderized he’s become. New Jay and old Jay are two completely different characters

[@StevenJones851]

Old Jay was written better

[@viqeteq]

​@@StevenJones851Skybound Jay literally made him whole diffrent look

[@StevenJones851]

@@viqeteq it did? Interesting

[@Agent-Walker]

People hating on the new designs are nostalgia merchants

[@Spyalwayswins]

Nya and Lloyd are better but the og 4 were butcher, especially Jay. The other 3 I was and still am fine with but I will never forgive them for what they did to Jay

[@thawkade]

​​@@Spyalwayswins Cole is nearly the exact same? I can't really see how he was "butchered" when the only major difference is the hair, which still fits him as well as the original.

[@trentontran3162]

idk it was just a little off to me 😭

[@Sasha-stoica]

​@@Spyalwayswins nostalgia merchent

[@Spyalwayswins]

@@Sasha-stoica hating on one design liking most of the others doesn’t mean I’m a “nostalgic merchant”

[@glukkogobrrr]

My oppinion with the redesings. They are better. Way better. Only thing i dislike, is zanes new hairpiece makes it basicly impossible to have another impression. Like man, we were starwing for new titanium zane impressions before dragons rising

[@Spyalwayswins]

Jay sucks now

[@jimbotron5000]

⁠@@Spyalwayswinsid like to know your reasoning

[@ButteredBread201]

We need a Zane hairpiece that completely covers the back of the head

[@ZayTh3God]

Jay is also bad

[@ZayTh3God]

@@jimbotron5000he looks to young

[@tima8725]

The new designs r literally so good the only complaint is I wish Jay kept his eyebrow slit but they're prob the best upgrade we could've gotten so true

[@ButteredBread201]

Agreed. Also they should've made Jay canonically ginger imo (ik he was only a ginger in the sets, but I sorta like him better with ginger hair)

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

EXCELLENT WORK. NINJACOLE RESIGNED CHARACTERS Changing 😊😊😊😊😮😊😊😊

[@StephenYoung-oh9wj]

And also cole's scar from DOTD

[@StevenJones851]

Same here

[@TomTheCat29]

I dislike the freckles on jay but i absolutely loved lloyds new design it upgraded him for the better also i love his new voice actor sam vincit its great at voicing lloyd.

[@zelenka6984]

Can't stress enough how on point you are with this video. I stopped watching Ninjago exactly after they changed the designs because i loved the old looks so much, but since watching your channel about everything that happens in the newer seasons, I've been really gaining some hope for the franchise again. Ninjago was my childhood and I'm glad it continues to be for upcoming generations :)

[@poptrop459]

I grew to love the movie designs! Though I remember having some gripes about Cole. I really loved his green ghost scar look from Hands of Time, I felt like removing that took away some of his individuality. I also don't really enjoy how the movie and the season 8 redesigns set a precedent for "sleeveless" Cole - sleeveless designs feel like "training" outfits to me, as opposed to a full Ninja uniform. Still, his new hair was nice to see.

[@aniocitex1131]

Lloyd needed it, especially with the voice. Cole’s barely changed aside from the hair. Jay’s is my least favorite but his design is okay

[@StevenJones851]

He definitely needed it

[@TomTheCat29]

absolutely they did lloyd so good his design and new voice actor is awesome. Jay looked better without freckles and with the eyebrow cut.

[@heshypinkesz8348]

GET OUT

[@TomTheCat29]

100%

[@TreAL-db5cn]

Cole honestly need more of a facial change because his face was kinda too spread (Which was the style of ninjago at the time when it comes to facial features) which made him look acoustic in some way.

[@spinjitzumasterfalcon]

Man, thank you for speaking up about the redesigns! I personally really enjoyed the movie. In my opinion, I like the redesigns because they make the ninja feel more adult.

[@jaystar19]

i don't understand why people criticise the ninjago movie so badly; it's easy to take it as just a funny au of the canon franchise. look at the lego movie, heck look at the lego BATMAN movie. those were pure crack, the ninjago movie is no different. sure , there's a ton of canon divergence, but isn't it nice to see what the ninja's life COULD'VE looked like if they had an element (haha) of normal teenage life?

[@StevenJones851]

i agree its interesting to see what it becomes

[@TomTheCat29]

I LOVE THE MOVIE AS ITS OWN THING. I LIKE THAT VERSION OF LLOYD TOO AND LLOYDS MY FAVORITE.

[@StevenJones851]

@@TomTheCat29 nice to know

[@redshogun2643]

I agree but I still miss Kai’s old hair piece since he was the only ninja that had his own exclusive hair piece made and Kai’s movie hair is way to tall that even the show made it shorter

[@barelyhere7200]

I like the redesigns but the reasoning for them was so stupid. They were supposed to transition movie fans to the show more easily, but who the hell starts a show at season 8 especially when season 8 relies on information from previous seasons💀

[@dangerbuffrocky]

Season 8 wasn't too dependent on the old stuff to be fair. My friends watched it and managed to catch on quickly on everything going on.

[@Sugarcoda]

Uhh... um uhmmmmmm ehegeheghe Not me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And no, it was not because of the movie I had all the seasons and pilots but for some reason s8 came up first Also, My brother pointed out that if we had started with the pilots we wouldn't have gotten into it

[@Angninjin22]

SOG was one of my first seasons( along with season 7 and the special of Dotd, and bits of season 5) so it was easy to understand the new things, I even watched the other seasons to understand the references to past things( such as Garmadon father bond with Lloyd or when they mentioned the possibility of flying pirates lol, even tho only Jay and Nya remembered it)

[@LEGONERD06]

U have to remember that not everyone knew it was the 8th season

[@spinngamingz5770]

The redesigned were needed, especially for Lloyd and nya

[@TomTheCat29]

absolutely Lloyds new design is what brought me back into the show!

[@phi4721]

How I feel about the redesign. Lloyd and Nya- love. Kai and Cole- neutral. Jay and Zane- dislike.

[@spinngamingz5770]

@@phi4721 I do not like zane because in the show, it’s fine, but the mini figure is so annoying because you only have one face print and also Arin

[@TomTheCat29]

@@phi4721 i love nyas and Lloyds kia im neutral cole i dislike some and jay and zane dislike jay is the worst redesign in my opinion. Lloyds was a massive upgrade!

[@AJedits65]

I originally hated the redesigns like a lot of people but they really did grew on me and now I love them and they look way better than in the movie

[@TomTheCat29]

yes! i accually never hated any of the designs besides jays freckles and eyebrow cut missing. lloyds new design is and always will be my favorite redesign. ive never heard anyone complian about lloyds new design. green eyes exetra

[@dangerbuffrocky]

Tommy Andreassan also mentioned that Ninjago had to "re-invent" itself every 3-4 years, so i guess this is why they decided to take the movie designs and run eith it: to show that the theme was re-inventing itself.

[@Equalizer4]

The whole redesign thing reminds me of how people felt about the art style change from Ben 10 UAF to Omniverse, where OV was basically deemed childish by many fans due to the art style being different than what we’re used to even though it’s arguably way better. The fight scenes felt less stiff and more fluid and even better choreographed, the redesigns of nearly every character and alien was an improvement for the most part, and the show itself was pretty good despite the art style change.

[@n4825]

I love OV but it was deemed as childish because compared to UAF it was, literally just look at each shows intro.

[@kauanjos3199]

The only downgrade was Gwen she literally looks like the 🤓☝️ emoji, I actually like Ken

[@uzii6540]

@@n4825spitting

[@timebomb42]

This entire video is like someone read my mind and then spilled it out into a KZbin video. This video was awesome, very well put together, well edited, and nicely written. Great job 👍

[@marsy24-o6b]

the only new design i have a bit of a problem with was oni trilogy Jay's hair color. I know i know, nitpicking, but I'm SO glad the newer seasons gave him his red hair back lol i just like consistency. Also still bothers me a little that Nya and Pixal have the EXACT same hairpiece

[@Bass-mx3iw]

I find it interesting how potentially production wise they were supposed to use lady iron dragons design in some way but didn’t want to change misako’s design since that wouldn’t fit with everything established, even if they use time travel excuse the age difference that would have occurred would’ve been way to drastic and we got harumi out of it too

[@BoredandStriving]

The Ninjago TikTok fanbase is so much worse. They cannot fathom the redesigns, they treat the redesigns like if they completely ruined the foundation and lore of the show, like it is one of the worst things to come out of the Lego Company. The amount of TikTok comments I have seen of "fans" shamming others for daring to like any season after season 7 or liking the redesign is insane.

[@errmmm2]

literally like its so dumb

[@BoltIsCool]

I’ve been rewatching Ninjago for the past month now and while I loved seeing the old designs again, I couldn’t help but realize how much better everyone looked after the redesigns. The redesigns are peak honestly

[@Derp-rz1nn]

Honestly, having rewatched the first 14 seasons, still enjoy the original designs way more, only Lloyd and Nyas designs were upgrades

[@Prexry]

@@Derp-rz1nn green eyes are still stupid

[@heshypinkesz8348]

GET OUT

[@smackey1099]

What do u mean?

[@Turo_Oikawa]

New designs means a new start for their adulthood. The old designs showed their awkward teenage phase with their weird hairstyles, outfit choices...etc but now they actually look like adults. Miraculous ladybug needs to take notes bruh

[@darkhoodiexxx2912]

Broo frrrrrr

[@IsleofPigsStudios]

I’m tired of the Movie Design VS OG Designs debate. Guys, just because the designs changed doesn’t mean that the post movie seasons are all bad. There are bad post movie seasons (like Season 11) and there are bad Pre-Movie Seasons (like Hands of Time). Sure designs can make or break something, but you can’t judge a book by its cover. There’s more than just the character designs, like how they are portrayed (which is why stuff like The Angry Birds Movie 2 sucks. While something like Hero of the Rails was a pretty good Thomas Special.)

[@dmsejin]

I don't like the hate on season 7. It was, and is, my favorite season, possibly because I thought it was going to be the end, but also because the villains were interesting, the collectibles were useful in the show, and we got to see an older generation of the elemental masters.

[@IsleofPigsStudios]

@@dmsejinIf you like it, that’s perfectly fine by me. I personally don’t like the season, but that’s just MY opinion. You are perfectly fine with liking the season.

[@shortstackofpancakes13]

@@dmsejin Well I absolutely love season 11, and think it’s genuinely a solid season. S7 and 11 just aren’t well liked seasons in the Ninjago community

[@Shaia_TeamLCE]

Thank you! I’m tired of people saying S7 was the last good season when it was the weakest of the pre-redesign seasons. If you said maybe S4 or 5, I could understand, but 7?

[@lordenma4449]

For me they do sensei wus voice actor in my language past and so jays voice actor and coles voice actor too they didn't died they just left i guess and so also nyas voice the only one that is still going was Lloyds voice actor

[@Crusty783]

real as hell

[@Vonthors]

my goats watching each other

[@fexreal]

Crusty😮

[@DEADLYSTORM22]

Yoooooo 🖐🗿

[@TheOriginalSB]

Ninjago was with us all our childhood, and grew with us, changing, this is the most favorite cartoon series that I watched)

[@TomTheCat29]

Mine too! i will always love ninjago! and im glad its still going in 2024!

[@Brick_kproduction]

Facts you don’t even need to explain yourself

[@Derp-rz1nn]

The new designs did not “save” ninjago 😭😭

[@StevenJones851]

@@Derp-rz1nn thanks for being an obsessive fan who spams useless comments that most people won't look at

[@Derp-rz1nn]

@@StevenJones851 bro you tracked down my comment, you seem a bit obsessed 💀

[@StevenJones851]

@@Derp-rz1nn you replied so you just exposed yourself of being obsessed

[@Lego_Goten]

​@Derp-rz1nn It saved Lloyd's voice though... In the OG seasons (1-7) Bro was literally a certified squeakster with a ugly-ass hairstyle. That's why I like Post-Movie Lloyd more than Pre-Movie Lloyd.

[@picopako9768]

I agree with your opinion on jays old and new design but one thing I wish they kept was his eyebrow cut also while I'm with Zanes redesign when he's titanium, I think his hair when he's cloaked looks awkward without the sideburns.

[@Justzoooo]

The new designs are way better imo. They add so much more personality to the ninja.

[@Topgunnder]

Jays redesign is the only one i truly dislike removes his cheekyness

[@Derp-rz1nn]

And Kai’s, his new hair is worse, and his bandage is stupid, and Zane’s is just less shiny with a little bit worse haircut

[@UTU1O]

​@@Derp-rz1nn He should not even have a haircut, he's not human.... And Jay should REALLY have kept his eyebrow slit. And ginger hair.

[@Derp-rz1nn]

@@UTU1O FR

[@I_got_here]

Why the hell does jay have freckles now, I know that he uses make up and people use that as an excuse but I find it so dumb that he just suddenly has them. Also, WHY DID THEY TAKE HIS GOD DAMM EYEBROW SLIT. I know that it sounds really nit pickiy but I have an eyebrow slit and growing up I really loved it just because jay also had one

[@Derp-rz1nn]

@@I_got_here REALLLL

[@ZHOZ8]

10:42 Nya with that bowl cut hair looking like Lloyd when he was 10 I'm so glad they changed it like what was that

[@magistersky]

There's only 1 thing that I disagree with. Jay's ginger hair was amazing and its the thing that I miss the most

[@phi4721]

Yep

[@j6s6n]

honestly i grew up on the old designs, but i really don’t mind the new designs lol

[@Discipleship54]

6:13 Chima was meant to be a replacement for Ninjago actually

[@The_FallenKnight]

Yeah…. Ähm they had a good story but they did have issues with the build up😅

[@Multi-fandomEldingArum]

I always liked Lloyd’s new design, even when it was first shown when the movie was being promoted. I thought it was a natural evolution of Lloyd’s design. And I love the green eyes, it really fits his character. And I agree for the most about the rest of the ninja’s design.

[@squareroot26]

Something that I like about the new designs is how they all got brand new custom designed hair pieces. All the old designs (except Kai) used super basic existing Lego hair pieces, probably because they only wanted the show to last two seasons

[@afrw23]

New designs are overall better but there’s small touches of the old designs which I think are better, like jay’s hair color or Zane’s titanium face being better, but the overall the new ones are better

[@Derp-rz1nn]

I think it’s the other way around, which the new designs having some really cool parts, like Jays freckles or Kai’s scar, but overall the OH designs are better

[@HANDEL_03]

my big thing is that looking back, the actual base models used for the original designs are severely dated. The heads are rounded on the sides, the shoulders droop, the hands are flat and have no taper, they’re very jello-y looking lego minifigs and I defend the redesigns solely because they looked more like how an actual lego minifigure is built A really good quality of life thing they did in season 8 was reuse the facial rigs from each character. The most obviously being Kais asymmetrical mouth, Zane’s straight face, and Lloyds smirk (even tho his mouth doesn’t really look the same)

[@AdiR9234]

Really well made - you presented a point that a lot if people could be against, and perfectly explained your point and got me to think about something I never really thought about before Amazing execution, keep it up!

[@OvertimeisOvertime]

12:32 had me focusing more on the PTSD flashbacks I was having from the music than actually focusing on the video. Iykyk. "No! It's a lie!! It's a lie!!! It's a lie!!! IT'S A LIE!!!"

[@Svetenlol]

Bro I was 7 when the Ninjago Movie came out, never crossed my mind that it was canon with season 8 either. The 2 years prior I already was obsessed with Ninjago, so the movie did dissapoint me so I just went "This never happened" and moved on with life lol

[@ZeroJump]

Here they come...

[@zainaslam4650]

Keep pumping these videos out loving all of them

[@plaggsock]

i honestly dont mind the designs i like the extra detail it gives them more character

[@Radin-Productions]

Thank you for the explanation. I can see that you really meant all of it. When season 8 got on tv I heavily ignored it(not because of the movie) but when I got to watch it, I realized how simplistic and old the old designs looked like.

[@Flaming_amougus]

Lloyd eyes in movie look so stupidly funny

[@jeepmega629]

I love how the Season that introduced the redesigns ended up being the most beloved season of the show

[@Derp-rz1nn]

Isn’t possession and ToE the most beloved?

[@BvelociraptorProductions]

​​@@Derp-rz1nnI'd say they're equally beloved to s8

[@Derp-rz1nn]

@@BvelociraptorProductions probably

[@StevenJones851]

@@jeepmega629 i love these Seasons

[@realgrenja]

in the opening episode of sons of garmadon, either jay or cole (i cant remember specificially) literally said they can look completely different and not even know it - because hands of time, when Wu went into the past and got stuck there, that's why they are still the same characters but they look different since the past was slightly altered - kinda like in "wrong place wrong time" - i guess no one really pays attention or actually listens to what the story is saying

[@SuperbGorilla]

I grew up with the redesign and once I got a kimono ninja and immediately said ' Oh god I think its knock off' caus I wasn't use to it

[@RonEngle]

If you grew up with the redesign you did not grow up ur like 12 lol

[@Derp-rz1nn]

The redesigns came out in like 2018 💀

[@LEGONERD06]

@@Derp-rz1nn2018 was 6 years ago

[@Derp-rz1nn]

@@LEGONERD06 no way 😭😭

[@j7sportvideo24]

At first, the new designs were the reason I didn't watch the show after hands of time. Also cartoon network didnt promote or even show the later seasons for some reason. But when it was released on netflix, I watched sons of garmadon, and I was so amazed in the darker tone of the show. The new design for lloyd worked best for him.

[@hklstudios]

I think the redesign for them looks better

[@kyanite8583]

I remember watching the sneak peak of season 8 when I was like 12 and just seeing the new Lloyd thinking ”ok yeah this is just gonna be that ninjago movie again, screw this” and I never watched ninjago since. Apart from that, I didn’t just stop because it’s the move redesign, but because it was a redesign from the “OG designs” we all know and love. Even if Zane changed, they just swapped his colours.

[@senittoaoflightning4404]

Jay and Zane had nearly the same face. Yeah, the redesigns were needed.

[@gk0405]

We have had more seasons with the redesigns than the old designs…

[@soysauce9940]

The worst thing they did to jay, was make his voice higher pitched. Idk if it was like studio choice or the vas, but his voice is waaaaay more annoying now. Just me. New design with old voice would be peak but noooop

[@SymphonyDaBeanD]

jay hit reverse puberty😭🙏

[@brennanbradley6120]

and as for why in the show, i think it's because of Season 7 and it's Time Travel. they changed very few things, causing them to look different and lose Elemental Dragons & Airjitzu. Cole did say "we could look totally different, and not even know it."

[@Spyalwayswins]

7:46 people were t mad about that because there was a reason behind it

[@GethDolla]

Too be fair Zane’s change makes sense because he rebuilt himself but I’m still not over jays hair getting darker and his eyebrow slit being removed

[@backyardgaming3371]

Old kai > new kai (but I don't mind) Old cole > new cole (but I don't mind) Old jay > new jay (this one I do mind) Old zane = new zane (he didnt change much) Old lloyd < new lloyd (i hate lloyds old design) Old nya < new nya (old nya was ugly)

[@TomTheCat29]

i agree!

[@thaerishtay7308]

Good video man

[@DavidTha1]

nah the designs are just straight up horrible its trash garbage dogwater

[@Skwidudel]

13:00 that line almost made me cry. I remember these beautiful times like it was yesterday

[@nickklaf5720]

The redesigns are WAAY better ( in the show, in the movie they are ugly)

[@frostanimation3834]

Ngl I was surprised seeing them but tbh, I liked em, and they do work for their looks as they get older and evolve over time so I say it’s a good thing

[@shatterlogy]

“Ninjago ended after s7!” And then if any of the old seasons were in their redesigns, and the new ones were in the old designs, people would say s8-10 were the best, and s3,7,2 and 6 were bad. Trust me.

[@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ld]

Bruh this is extremely incorrect, people already hated the new seasons after 7 when they came out, and the last reason was the redesign, i hate the redesign, but the huge changes with the new design made it worse, like the character personalities are changed, there is no air jutsu, and they got garmadon back, after he sacrificed himself, this has to be the worst season idea, and the seasons after crystallised are pure trash and you know it, you just don’t admit it.

[@diplocolus1439]

@@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ldincorrect? People have opinions

[@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ld]

@@diplocolus1439 @shatterlogy didn’t claim it to be an opinion, he assumed the majority of the fans would hate the old seasons in the new design and he also said “trust me” and I replied “this is extremely incorrect” this argument isn’t about opinions, so don’t just jump into and argument knowing it’s finished (cuz @shatterlogy didn’t reply back) and try to light it up again.

[@LEGONERD06]

@@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ldu do know season 8 and 9 were praised for taking the series in a more mature direction. Also u stated how u think everyone hates dragons rising and just dont want to admit it when thats a matter of personal opinion. And for the record ive seen a lot of people (including myself) very much enjoy dragons rising. Ur not incorrect for disliking it, but u cant assume everyone else feels the same

[@LEGONERD06]

@@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ldalso shatterlogy was clearly making a joke

[@ewan_is_me]

FINALLY SOMEONE SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!! I agree completely lol. Love you my dude

[@artbybrando]

There are genuine reasons to not like the new character designs, and it doesn't involve nostalgia. (This is gonna be a long rant.) My first problem is the rule of character design. You gotta to be able to look at a character and get the gist of their personality or archetype. People who argue for the new designs use that as their argument, saying the new ones give the ninja more personality. I call BS. The designs are taken from the movie versions of the Ninja, but they are only similar to the show versions in name and powers only. In the show, Kai is a competitive hothead, Jay is a loudmouth jokester, Zane is the logical one but lacks social skills, Cole is a tough guy with a big heart, Nya is a confident genius, and Lloyd is a troublemaker turned hero. The movie versions are damn near the opposite. Jay is awkward instead of outgoing, Kai is friendly and has no edge to him, Cole is way more mellowed out, Zane is just a robot, Nya is only the cool girl, and Lloyd is a loner with dad issues. This is not even me lying just to mislead y'all. Go back and watch the movie, Lloyd is the only one with any real personality further than what I described. They gave the designs of these characters to the show ones when they're completely different. They don't fit the show versions at all. You can argue the show designs where plain, I actually agree with that to an extent, but you're not convincing me that the movie versions somehow fit them better. My second problem is the show runner's reasoning. The creators put the movie designs in the tv show under the idea that it would bring in new fans. Except here's the thing, the movie barely brought any new fans. The Ninjago Movie isn't like the Lego Movie, where everybody loved it even if some fans didn't build Lego or played with them as a kid. The only people who really like the Ninjago movie are fans from the show, and even then, the movie wasn't that well received in our fanbase. So they resigned the characters to appeal to a damn near non-existent group of people. Let's say I'm wrong and people did come to the show through the movie. Most of them aren't gonna skip all the way to season 8 to see the designs they're used to. They're gonna go back and start with the pilots and go from there, meaning they'll be watching the old designs for a while. That's my take 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Kaijusaurus-Rex-animations]

You are on point with your opinion. Most people think people like the old designs better due to nostalgia, but that just isn't the case here when you state this.

[@TexTheGuy]

honestly i dont like the new designs cuz like they don't look right idk why

[@skylandersfan6954]

Most of the designs are close to the original designs but are just more detailed like Lloyds or Zanes, your argument is that they dont fit simply because they were also used with other characters even though they still fit the characters in the show. The most drastic changes are Nya and Jay, and Jay's new design fits him in the show as does Nyas (and Nya also has the benefit of being able to use a half mask with the design so its objectively better)

[@artbybrando]

@skylandersfan6954 They don't look alike at all outside of their hair colors. And even then, how exactly do they fit? The movie and show versions of the characters hardly share any personality traits between each other. Why have 2 different sets of characters have identical designs?

[@skylandersfan6954]

@@artbybrando If you showed someone who knew nothing about Ninjago a character and their redesign, chances are theyd note how similar they are. The redesigns are just updated versions of the old designs with more detail abd distinct features

[@joshuacouture479]

Lloyd needed his redesign the most

[@TomTheCat29]

absolutely his new design brought me back into the show cause i thought he looked so cool!

[@lbricks7631]

I can't even with the people that still complain about this.

[@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ld]

Ninjago fell off sooo hard

[@lbricks7631]

@@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ld Nostalgia-brain

[@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ld]

@@lbricks7631 bruh, just cuz the old thing is better, doesn’t mean I’m nostalgic, and btw, ninjago isn’t even that old for me to be “nostalgic brain”

[@lbricks7631]

@@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ld are you kiddin? I'm nostalgic for old Ninjago because I was a little kid when I watched it. But Season 8 is my favourite, and thats not even new anymore

[@MuhammadIbrahim-hp4ld]

@@lbricks7631 i know, what I'm saying is, ninjago started in 2011, how tf are you nostalgic for something that young? well I don't know your age but, the whole argument I'm making is, the seasons pre s8 are objectively better for many reasons, and nostalgia is not one of them

[@dennisbeaman958]

I admit i hated how nya became the element of water considering it would have saved time by Wu telling her way earlier as in during any of the times of peace and loids new voice annoyed me at first till i got used to it because i was expecting the same voice or something similar not something completely different it was still likable when annoying it was more annoying because i didn't expect tye complete change

[@NinjaOnStud]

But seriously we didn’t need a cat girl 😑

[@Boneur123]

Everything has to be LGBT friendly now

[@JolivoHY9]

sora is not a 'cat girl'. she only likes cats (who doesn't?) the old ninja also have their own symbolic animals so what's wrong with sora?

[@R.M-BACK-AT-BUSINESS]

Me personally I liked the new designs with some exceptions(jay Zane) but it isn’t that bad plus you were spot on about Lloyd he needed that redesign course for someone who grew up with the Arabic version of ninjago he used to sound like a squirrel and he seems way more matured and older in the redesigned seasons and nya looks wayyy younger too she looked like she had wrinkles in the old design To sum up your opinion was quite reasonable and logical and was quite mind changing since I wasn’t a fan of the redesigns at first but now I think it’s a life saver

[@AverageReader._.]

I remember being so shocked when I saw the redesigns for the first time, but I got used to it just a few episodes in

[@phantom_kamikaze]

13:00 u just described how i watched wild kratts

[@Ttvmatglc]

When you post I get happy keep up these peak vids

[@SuperBenBoy5886]

I've been watching Ninjago ever since S1-2 episodes aired on Cartoon Network 13+ years ago and after reading the comments ive only just noticed that Jay had ginger hair in the older seasons 😅

[@VictoriaThomas-c3o]

same here,I aways thoght that he was a brunette

[@TheaPalmer-bu7tw]

I love the new designs especially Lloyd’s and nyas They both needed it soooo much, but Kai’s is also really good

[@Muicheerio]

First seeing the new designs i absolutely hated them but as I grew older I started to get used to them and liked em

[@HdNinjaMsBrickStudio]

I think the movie designs were an upgrade the Ninja definitely needed some new designs but i feel like when putting those designs in the show they should have sticked closer to the og designs maybe combining the two (i know this kinda ruins the "we changed the designs to bring newer audiences in" but that reason was dumb anyways) like keep Jay's eyebrow notch,remove Nya's mole,remove Kai's bandage and maybe swith his scar to tye original side also make his hair shorter in the Sets too,maybe have Cole's eyebrows be the way they were before but i would just add the scar on his face for Zane just have his s11 design be in the sets too (this doesn't really have to do with the designs but ill add it anyways because they are still using this same designand Zane only uses that design in S10) i would keep Lloyd the same his design IMO was the only one where i think every part of it was an upgrade. I think all these changes could maje the designs feel more like they were made with the old ones in mind as in trying to look more like older variants of those old designs.i wonder how characters Like Arin or Sora would look like with old designs? Also love the vid

[@CC--qn4gf]

There is actually a canonical explanation for the face redesign which was caused by the time twins and Wu messing around with the timeline after season 7. This was hinted at in Season 8 in a discussion between Jay and Cole, where they weren't sure if they looked different to how they used to.

[@TreAL-db5cn]

Honestly, both designs are good. It's just the fact that the older designs should"ve maybe been changed earlier during the show since it looks older like around 2015 and lower. Also, the facial changes are literally a BIGG thing I'm happy they changed. Literally, garmadon looked acoustic at his older design but when sons of garmadon came, he looked WAYYY better. (Also, the samurai atire hits hard too) Another thing is that the character's hair in the older design looks flat for some reason and I'm kinda tired that people are complaining on Lloyd's redesign. Yes, he looks different but he looks older and more mature like ninjacole said and he sounds less winny too because omg, I was thinking like, "How the hell is this kid a teenager?"

[@bedrock_breaker]

Amazing video!

[@mcgaming8982]

Bunch of Nostalgia merchants. Peak ninja was when the redesigns happened

[@willianagostinho]

WHERE IS JAY'S EYEBROW SLIT?

[@weeoth8380]

i think making new characters always beats redesigning old ones. if you want change, this is the way to do it while keeping the character concepts of the original characters consistent. Plus, you can still have them mirror previous ones to a degree, but have more fredom to really go all out with new ideas

[@Mystic_Magirano]

The new designs to me, really show how far the ninja have grown and changed. For that I love it

[@kostar-87]

I am a day one ninjago fan with the pilot being what got me into lego and I always liked the new designs more. Like come on guys, you can't tell me this isn't a quality upgrade

[@TomTheCat29]

i always liked the new designs more and saw it as a upgrade lloyds new design is what got me back into it!

[@unitds27-delta]

i'll be honest i love jay's redesign with the sole and large exception of the fact they took away his eyebrow notch

[@JodaroKujo]

Movie design Kai got super saiyan like hair which is actually cool for me to imagine it that way Like I honestly like the movie design For him in the show

[@lukewaters5564]

I gotta say, the Prime Empire costumes were friggin fire, I loved them so much and hated that they were gone after the season, one thing that they can also do is bring back old costumes, like with the tournament of sources they could've brang back the costumes that they used to have when the ninja were inside the tournament of elements, with making new costumes like we see other new characters get while bringing back the old costumes that people loved.

[@TheRealHi12]

Honestly, not having watched ninjago in a while and coming back to dragons rising, those redesigns seem to fit way more seamlessly with the series than the old designs would have ever.

[@themouufamily5202]

I love the new designs, it really made me think they got older and there was a timeskip

[@BvelociraptorProductions]

It's the same deal with the merge and people hating on Dragons Rising because it made things different, which Ninjago fans can't seem to accept. Can you imagine the 2011 designs in dragons rising? Or Ninjago if the merge never happened? Sons of garmadon and dragons rising are literally some of the best seasons. Sad some fans can't see that.

[@estebangutierrez160]

Even more so, if they like the old designs that much, then go back and watch the old designs. Change is what people are going to say is bad.

[@LEGONERD06]

Every single fandom in the history of pop culture has people who cant accept change and treat the origanel as a sacred symbol of perfection. It is a constant

[@RRose2312]

Literally the only design change I dislike is Jay not having his eyebrow slit, otherwise they're all improvements and I love the direction they took with the designs

[@TomTheCat29]

I dislike his freckles but i miss his eyebrow slit!

[@Ray_9832]

Bro if people are hating on original designs I don't think they're actually a Ninjago fan I'm a true fan I only hate two seasons and that is fire and ice chapter and season 5

[@Sugarcoda]

The first season I watched was s8, in 2018 or so To this day 8 and 9 are my favorites