How the world's leading atheist changed his mind about God

/ bloggingtheology
/ freemonotheist
I read from 'There Is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind' by Antony Flew www.amazon.co.uk/There-God-No...

[@stephenconnolly1830]

One of the real problems facing all atheists, particularly those relying on a scientifically informed view, is the problem of entropy: that the universe started out in a state of maximum energy density or 0 (zero) entropy proceeding to decrease in energy density thereafter thus doomed to ever increasing entropy (except for short periods relating to local islands like the solar system arranged around our sun, for example) until it's eventual heat death. The paradox thus exists how was the universe able to arrange itself in the first place into its most energy dense form without an input of some kind (meaning it would require other energy to achieve this original state since it could not be achieved autonomously)? The fact remains, by logical deduction, before the universe came into existence it required an organising cause - which is what one might refer to as God or Allah to give Him His correct name.

[@heru6394]

This is exactly what my lecturer told me. Entropy is the answer

[@stephenconnolly1830]

@@heru6394 - yes, it's a huge difficulty.

[@thinkislamcheckmychannel]

Isn't there the perspective about whether it is a closed system or not. I thought atheists had a reply to this.

[@stephenconnolly1830]

@@thinkislamcheckmychannel - not really, and certainly not convincingly as their arguments all rely on huge conjecture as well as massive statistical insignificance. You have to acknowledge one of the traits of humans is their ability to rationalise pretty much everything with some bullshit argument even in the face of stronger evidence/arguments. Which is what will lead so many into the fire thru' their explaining away the unexplainable: including tyranny, murder, torture etc and the supposed non-existence of God, ultimately.

[@Bill_Garthright]

_The paradox thus exists how was the universe able to arrange itself in the first place into its most energy dense form_ No, I don't think that's a problem. For one thing, I don't have to explain how the universe exists in order to be an atheist, since atheism has nothing to do with that. I'm an atheist because I haven't seen even *one piece of good evidence* that any gods are real. I'm quite willing to admit that I don't know how the universe began (and neither do you, whether you're willing to admit it or not). This is just more of the "god of the gaps" kind of argument from ignorance, that's all. But second, as far as I know, no one is suggesting that happened. No one knows how the universe "started out." Cosmologists have different ideas about it, but they haven't come to a consensus because it's very hard to get evidence. And *evidence* is how we distinguish reality from delusion and wishful-thinking. But if a god can just... exist, with no explanation required, then so can a "most energy dense form," certainly. In other words, this wouldn't be a paradox _anyway_ because you haven't demonstrated that it _needed_ to "arrange itself." If everything started out in a state of maximum energy density (zero entropy, as you put it), then there's no paradox. Of course, we don't know if that happened, and it's unlikely that the natural laws we see inside of our own local manifestation of spacetime would function the same way outside it or 'before' it (if 'before' even makes sense in that situation). But this seems to be just a god-of-the-gaps kind of argument from ignorance, with an additional claim of a paradox which doesn't seem to exist _at all._ After all, where's the "paradox" in going from maximum entropy to decreasing entropy? But, as I noted earlier, even cosmologists don't know how "the universe started out," so all of this is just speculation, not evidence. Get back to me when you have *one piece of good evidence* that your god isn't just imaginary. Because _that's_ why I'm an atheist. (One piece of good evidence might not be enough to convince me, but it would let me take religious claims _seriously,_ at least. After all, if you don't even have *one,* you have nothing at all.) _before the universe came into existence it required an organising cause - which is what one might refer to as God or Allah_ And what "organizing cause" did your god require? Obviously, if your god can just... exist, with no explanation (and no evidence) required, then so can... whatever there was 'before' the Big Bang (which no one knows, even if we can ask about 'before' in the absence of time).

[@Irisphotojournal]

I started to believe in God because nothing else makes any sense and much has changed for me. Now I understand much more.

[@kyliantembo6438]

Good for you

[@jesuschristiskingforever7142]

Jesus is king

[@darrenrichards3351]

Mr Bradley, thanks for sharing this quick comment and May Allah guide you and us and all those who are sincere and open hearted to Islam

[@jesuschristiskingforever7142]

@@darrenrichards3351 hell no, there's no historical evidence for Islam my guy

[@ishabubakral-albania610]

@@darrenrichards3351 allah is a pagan God that's why muslims go in circle around Kaba as pagans did. Islam is a collection of fairy tells. Islam believes in a prophet who made no prophecy or miracles instead had sex with a 9 year old and with a wife of his son. 😰 Im happy to be an ex muslim that left that cult after i studied Islam intensively. According to Quran i should be killed for apostasy. What type of religion forces you to believe???

[@SlaveKing1444]

I love this man for the sake of Allah. He is genuine, thorough, and eloquent. Moreover, the books he surrounds himself with seem so cozy.

[@squarecircle2347]

How can he be genuine when he plugs his ears with respect to pretty much any opposing views lol

[@hamzakhairi4765]

@Miles Doyle My brother in islam... you pasted a PhD thesis into this comment section!

[@squarecircle2347]

@vee And yet when there is clearly no evidence supporting his stupid community posts, he continues to post them anyway and ignores all the comments that try to point out the obvious logical errors he is making and continues to post. It seems he is just immuned against reason

[@happiness893]

Reminds me of this verse in Surah Fusilat: “We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?”

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

Yes God exists but not Islamic stupid superman or spiderman type. Who has 2 right hands and one leg.

[@mujtabahilali1721]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 you clearly don’t know, how Allah ( subhanah wa taalah )described himself in the Quraan, go read and learn about Islam.

[@thecooked8121]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 I see copy pasting here get a life boy

[@joshuat7171]

1 John 5:7 (KJV) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word(Jesus Christ)and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

[@joshuat7171]

@@person10 Allah will send you to hell. Jesus Christ is the way. The only way.

[@strawhatbluenote9718]

Brother Paul surrounded by books....don"t mess with brother Paul.

[@Outspoken.Humanist]

I am presently surrounded by books and my views are the complete opposite. Brother Paul either misunderstands Anthony Flew or he is deliberately misrepresenting him.

[@monsieurpatate1573]

@@Outspoken.Humanist or maybe it is you who didnt understand

[@Outspoken.Humanist]

@@monsieurpatate1573 Maybe. But let me ask, have you read Flew's book? If not, you might give it a try and then decide if he died believing in a theistic god.

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

Yes God exists but not Islamic stupid superman or spiderman type. Who has 2 right hands and one leg.

[@abdulmuneerdost2465]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 😄 a nincompoop will always be nincompoop... you spent weeks on creating Islamophobic comment, now it has become your "trade mark" by cut & paste on every subject. Tough life...it is a sign of boiling inside you 😄 🤣

[@samisk3539]

Your ability to read and process a book then extract the heart/core of it is amazing. Your content is of immense value. May Allah bless you my brother.

[@BloggingTheology]

Thank you so much 😀

[@samisk3539]

@@BloggingTheology

[@VideoTranslations]

When you said the very last phrase I cried: "And let's hope and pray that he found a mericful God who accepted him into Paradise."

[@FAMA-18]

@rob91011 It’s called “ moral emotions “ which is reality ..

[@FAMA-18]

@rob91011 No, nothing to do with JP, I see you are a disturbed peanut with a mind of the size of an eggshell...lol. I just simply stated the definition of emotions which are characterized by one’s morals which is reality but, I highly doubt your idiotic mind to comprehend what I just wrote.

[@FAMA-18]

@rob91011 Lol..your an idiot ! word soup, it’s all combined you banana brain..

[@FAMA-18]

@rob91011 Irrational to be rational one would be offended, you’re intelligence are the size of a peanut.

[@FAMA-18]

@rob91011 Ahaha..senorita, don’t assume because your making yourself look dumber lol.

[@sophiaaj4353]

This video is really well made Paul 😊 please do more of these book reviews! I’m looking forward to it 😊👍🏼

[@BloggingTheology]

Thank you! Will do!

[@TasteNSmile]

JazakAllah brother Paul. You bring amazing scholarly stuffs. Very useful. 👍😊

[@BloggingTheology]

It's my pleasure

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

Atheism built 0 civilizations, all faiths change & point to Islam, humanity in whole proves Islam true & we can't do it alone. See in & out of Quran Allah's All Wise, Most Just & Merciful. Man's imbalanced error in function & cycle in instabiily, It's why history repeats with "new atheism". Allah is the guide with the answers of our purpose and function!

[@shadowprodify]

@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Does Buddhism Hinduism Jainism point to islam?

[@edwardjohn5]

@@shadowprodify not at all lol

[@shadowprodify]

@@edwardjohn5 smh

[@ghazisadoun7855]

You’re quite the voracious reader! Always great to hear your commentaries.

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

Yes God exists but not Islamic stupid superman or spiderman type. Who has 2 right hands and one leg.

[@ghazisadoun7855]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 God is none of what you mention above. God is the source of All things beyond limits & beyond limited human comprehension. Just because there are “bad Muslims” doesn’t mean that all Muslims are bad. A good Muslim is one who does goodness for goodness’ sake in order to please God. Nothing more nothing less. Unfortunately not all Muslims comprehend this divine mandate. 😉 Peace 🙏

[@alaouiamine3835]

@@ghazisadoun7855 i agree and i wish there more people that has your insight 💯

[@ghazisadoun7855]

@@alaouiamine3835 there are! You are one of them 😉

[@naweedkhan6345]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 Allah is not like humanity or Spiderman. He is unique and there's is none like him

[@savashzaynal6502]

Jazakallah kheirun brother for the time you put to read analyze and share with us.

[@mechanicjobs]

Nice of you to share your views. Just subscribed, I enjoy listening and learning from people like you. 👍🇨🇦

[@BloggingTheology]

Welcome aboard!

[@gavinjames1145]

The complexity of cellular chemistry, especially gene maintenance and protein synthesis, boggles the mind in terms of its complexity. And how this all came to exist simultaneously within a phospholipid membrane to make a fully functioning cell is simply unimaginable to me without there being some sort of externally applied coordination. It's one thing to gather an orchestra together in one place, but it's another thing entirely to harmonise each musician in such a way that they collectively produce a meaningful, and hopefully beautiful, piece of music.

[@BloggingTheology]

beautifully put!

[@bradholms6400]

You've relied on the watchmaker argument; stupid argument.

[@jasjas3642]

@@bradholms6400 why is it a stupid argument? Maybe your mind is lacking?

[@gavinjames1145]

@@bradholms6400 Actually I was employing the "chicken and egg" argument: cells depend on a complex cell membrane which must contain all the various cell organelles as well as facilitate various other functions such as gates which transfer nutrients useful for, and waste products produced by, cell chemistry; but cell membranes are built and maintained by proteins made by gene functions, which themselves have extremely complex processes. So you see, cell membranes contain everything required for cell chemistry, but cell membranes are created by the very same cell chemistry. So which came first? The watchmaker thought experiment is all about how such complexity could arise: could something as complex as a pocket watch come into existence by chance, or does it rather suggest a maker? That argument could be made for cells, but even simple cells have a complexity orders of magnitude greater than a simple pocket watch. I agree that the pocket watch is not a great analogy, because a mechanical watch is not a dynamic living, self replicating homeostatic system like a cell. But if you reject the argument, but can't suggest an alternative solution, then surely you must at least remain agnostic with regard to the "maker" hypothesis unless you can definitively rule it out: which noone really can. To claim that cells appeared by chance, without evidence, is itself a belief statement. I don't rule it out: I'm agnostic on the chance argument, but the maker argument seems more plausible in this instance in order to avoid the chicken and egg conundrum. Please bear in mind that this planet is evidently optimal for life: it started very soon after the Earth formed and has persisted for billions of years, so would it be reasonable to assume that life would be a simple or easy process to get going when chance requires a long time to work: to get all the components of cellular activity in the right place, in the right configuration, at the right time, doing the right things to function long enough in an environment which is just right for survival, providing all the right nutrients, all long enough to enable cell reproduction which this chance event seems set up to do? On a stable planet, around a stable star, in a stable solar system with just the right type and size of gas giants which soak up most of the solar system debris which could be harmful to life on earth? The chance theory is so incredibly far fetched when you think about it. But if life got started so soon, apparently with ease, would it not be reasonable to expect the spontaneous appearance of life to continue? Shouldn't life be popping into existence by chance on a fairly regula basis, especially considering how amenable this planet is to life? Yet there is no evidence for the spontaneous creation of life from inorganic materials, beyond the formation of some essential building blocks, such as amino acids. I'm guessing you don't understand just how complex cellular chemistry, indeed cellular anatomy, really is. But if the "watch maker" idea is so bad, what would you suggest as an alternative? Peace!

[@bradholms6400]

@@gavinjames1145 I am not going to read all that. You cut and pasted it. I can cut and paste, too. I can cut and paste a counter article to that but I won't because I can think for myself.Evolving cells makes a whole lot more sense to me. You don't know how shit works so you just give up and insert a god that chose a child molesting, suicidal psychopath to be his messenger.

[@dugna1]

Imam Ghazali said something along the lines of...God is invisible to the eye in this physical universe as our souls are invisible to the eye in our physical bodies.

[@bradholms6400]

Prove God. Prove there is a soul.

[@mikeandrozy]

@@bradholms6400 can you disprove God ?

[@bradholms6400]

@@mikeandrozy Can you disprove leprechauns?

[@mejamakan3054]

i feel disturb the word “invicible god”.... just bcos our eye has no ability to see it, it doesnt mean it is invicible.... its like a blind man say his wife is invicible

[@mejamakan3054]

@@bradholms6400 @ you cant even prove your great great great grandparents exist.......😂😂😂

[@anonamos3287]

Really enjoying having found your Chanel, your videos are like a breath of fresh air.

[@BloggingTheology]

Welcome aboard!

[@anonamos3287]

@@BloggingTheology Thanks, I'm a strong believer that even in this day and age, we have not been left in darkness regarding the greater truth of the reality of life, that the greater truth can even still be found in the day to words we use everyday, if we take the time to con-template them correctly. Noticed a book on etymology you were showing on an earlier video around of the origin of many English words. I have a fascination for words, in fact I go further than this to believe all language are a gauge of our ability to understand the greater truth underpinning existence, that key words hold exavtly that, important keys to unlock the greater truth as a way for seeing the true spiritual reality that is underpinning existence. An example of this the english word 'matter'. We use this word to describe the physical property of all material things. But 'Matter' has another meaning, what matters to us. It can actually be proven that nothing we as humans have ever done happened unless it first mattered to us. So it can be seen that the primary cause of our making things happen, the intentions that matter to the one making it is the primary cause of the physical actions we undertake. Which points to showing the spiritual desire to make or create can be seen as the foundational cause of what is created by us humans. Why then can people not accept that there is an even greater spiritual cause underpinning all creation. That this incredible Uni-verse could not and can not continue to exist without a greater spiritual input and intention causing it to exist. We can see this as the only way our own abilities gives us the capacity to make physical things form in our own reality from the ideas we have. Yet fail to accept this cause and effect for a universe far greater and more complex than anything we could even comprehend making. There are many English words that have deeper meanings that help expressing a deeper insight for thinking beyond the physical reality. Just a thought to share. I'm happy to share the many I have found if interested.

[@Nafsejhaad]

Your videos are amazing x keep them coming bro.

[@FAB962]

I always look for your latest videos. I am learning a lot with out reading books myself. The good thing is you read it out, and leave it to the listeners to decide.

[@bishargellowmahad1074]

This is one one of the handful channel which I click the like button before even listening. May Almighty God bless you Abundantly brother. I really benefited a lot from your Oasis of knowledge

[@roubaissa6996]

My sheikh last night mentioned this book. I’m so glad you’ve done a mini summary video about it

[@user-sb4hj9kh2e]

The philosopher mentioned in this video managed to overcome his ego. I think many modern scientists and thinkers understand that atheism and materialism do not make any sense, but they can't accept it because of their arrogance. Thank you for a nice video. Keep it going.

[@user-ly3or3ou8e5]

Through my personal study, I came to a conclusion that gives you credibility that there are two types of atheism: atheism is practical and atheism is theoretical. All atheists are theoretical, meaning they atheist out of love for atheism and arrogance. As you mentioned to us When reason and logic accept that 0+0=75, we conclude that there is no God

[@leonardodavinci7983]

Brother Paul, you don't know how wonderful are you videos. You bring an amazing book every day to read beautiful quotes from it to us. Very useful youtube content you are making. Thank you sir

[@BloggingTheology]

You are very welcome

[@dry3474]

@Patricia Hill so? He did say the author embracing aristotle god or something and we all know it. It is about comparative religion or in this point is atheism with religion in general. Nothing wrong if he's refering islam as well. You just need to be chill. The point is the author changes his mind that there is A god. Then the discussion leads us to monotheism faith, which makes us comparing the teaching of the religion between christianity and islam.

[@ya7771]

@Patricia Hill I think you need to push CTRL ALT DELETE in order to reset your knowledge about Islam. Many of you pretend to show love of Jesus but in fact are more mean, rude, and treacherous and talking with hate and without knowledge. Before you point out a finger to the beloved Muhammad, you must know first this. He fought for his Freedom of Religion! That is a right that he didn't have at that time, and the Kuraysh Tribe didn't want to give him this right. If I will take from you your freedom of speech how would you feel yourself? Aren't you going to fight for your right? That is exactly what he did! Therefore the tribes wanted to terminate his monotheistic religion by killing him and they asked help from other tribes and also the Jewish tribes who lived in Makkah and Medinah. What would you do if someone tries to oppress you and to kill you so that you can't speak freely ? And yes you will stand up. That is what he did! In his reign of 23 years my beloved prophet was not a warmongering warlord. You need to just put this into perspective and not behave as low IQ dude without any knowledge. He fought about 80 battles where the total casualties on his side were 259 men and on the enemy side 759 men. He had forbidden to kill women, children, old people, fauna, flora , priests, in war! In total there were for all the 80 battles 1018 casualties! Let us compare with next wars, Alexander the great wars; 142000 deaths, Napoleonic wars: 2.000.000. Crusaders wars: 3.000.000. Roman Carthagic wars : 2.000.000. Hitler: .60.000.000. Spanic wars native Americans (Inca Maya Aztec etc):12.000.000 deaths. This proves that our prophet is a true prophet who limited bloodshed compared to the real warmongering idiots who named themselves Christians such as Hitler and Napoleon and others. Do you get the picture? All prophets (David, Jesus, Mozes, Abraham, Noah, Muhammad ) came with One consistent message to mankind: "There is only One Allah, believe in Him and pray to Him". Question, as you said Jesus brings love according to your bible, I don't think so since in, Luke 19:27-28 states: But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me. '" After Jesus had said this, He went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.…, Have you read well your Bible? Was "killing" the love you meant? Jesus nor Muhammad will never say these words, they were not sent to shed blood of people even if they were unbelievers. When Muhammad entered Makkah the polytheists weren't harmed nor prosecuted, they were free to live. May Allah guide you and us to the right and true path!

[@shamsrehman6842]

He didn't deliver war,it was imposed on him.He had 313 men power against 1000, and all 313 didn't posses weapons,some had swords,some archers,some were riding horse and camels, Ill prepare for battle,but they fought with determination and won.

[@trilithon108]

@@ya7771 "What would you do if someone tries to oppress you and kill you to prevent you from speaking freely". Happens in Islamic countries every day. Why don't you tell us?

[@lilygrace9071]

Superb video brother Paul!!! 😊👍🏼👍🏼

[@edwardgabriel1946]

I'm relatively unintelligent and not very educated. I don't understand the meaning of most of these complicated words, But when it comes to whether or not there is an intelligent creator, I'm appalled that so many don't believe it and want physical evidence there is one. They refuse to accept spiritual realities. Doesn't beautiful music convince us, or our ability to love (I would die for any of my kids) or our sense of sympathy, empathy, curiosity, creativeness (art, cuisine, etc.), logic, humor and so much more? This gorgeous earth convinces me we have an intelligent creator. And all within the laws of science. (Matter cannot be created nor destroyed) People who argue with their wealth of scientific facts and knowledge I think are blinded by their own intellect and too proud to be as a little child.

[@islamafridi5055]

YOU ARE A GOOD SOUL

[@AliothAncalagon]

No, the existence of music, love, empathy or curiosity does not point to a ruler of the universe that is personally concerned about our sexuality. There are easy natural explanations for all of those. The easiest one is that animals develop helpful properties for their survival. If they don't, they don't survive. Just like a person has to adapt useful skills for a job otherwise he or she won't go very far. Its a fascinating process sure. But it has been well explained naturally and does not need magic as an explanation.

[@Campbellteaching]

This is a fair assessment of the topic

[@kimjongwin]

I love your videos! Helped me through my studies

[@Outspoken.Humanist]

It absolutely is not. It is either a very basic error or a deliberate lie

[@nassar2156]

@@Outspoken.Humanist Can you back up your claim? I am genuinely curious

[@Outspoken.Humanist]

@@nassar2156 Please forgive me, I am locked into so many comment debates that I have lost track. If you are asking about my statement about the claim in the video that Anthony Flew changed from being an atheist to believing in the Abrahamic God, I can back it up by suggesting you read his book. As I mentioned before, there is much in it that is confused, not least being his poor grasp of modern science. It is this that leads me to think he was beginning to suffer from senility. He admitted that he was unable to do the writing and I suspect that much of what we read is in fact the work of his co-author. But the main point is that he is very clear that he came to believe in a deistic god. i.e. a god who created the universe and then stepped away and who does not get involved in any way. Unless and until scientists can actually prove this idea to be false, which I do not think will be possible, the deistic god is at least plausible and it does not conflict in any way with what we know of the universe, ourselves and our planet. The author of the video claims that Flew came to believe in the Abrahamic God but that is either a bad mistake or a deliberate falsehood. Having now watched other videos by the same author, I think it is more likely a mistake brought on by his own beliefs.

[@masterq2.033]

Fancy seeing Dr Campbell here.

[@guystryke3966]

As a fellow book collector/bibliophile, I envy and admire the collection towering behind you haha. Another enjoyable video!

[@bootstrapperwilson7687]

But you don't know if the books are worthwhile. What would you think if you knew the books were a complete set of Mills & Boon or Mickey Spillane etc?

[@annap7678]

I know! I hope he doesn’t live in one of the more volatile earthquake zones! It would give a whole new meaning to the description, “He was always burying himself in his books....”📚 📚📚

[@steakfilly5199]

Bibliophile sounds like some terrible offender of some crime

[@masudsaleh5155]

​@@steakfilly5199 🤡

[@born2learn222]

I just discovered this channel, and find it quite interesting. Keep up the good work.

[@BloggingTheology]

Welcome aboard!

[@michaelsorensen8670]

God bless Antony Flew. He was a very brave man he knew that once he revealed that he believed in God that many of his atheist friends would turn on him.

[@maxrobespierre9176]

As well they should. The absolute best outcome for theists is to argue for a god of the 18th century deist flavor.

[@Longtack55]

Name 20 other Scientists who jumped the fence? One snowflake does not make a snowdrift.

[@jamaquinabella3378]

It's better to obey God rather than men. Sooner or later they will find out that he was right.

[@gy5240]

@@Longtack55 Obivously many people have jumped ship. I studied biology and subsequently changed my beliefs in line with Flews conclusions. I'm not famous though so my name ' doesn't matter'. I do know from experience and from others situations that sharing those beliefs can end your career or seriously limit it at least. Better to keep your mouth shut as many theist scientists do, unless already in stable leadership positions. I'm sure you could find some by searching the internet. Have a nice day.

[@Longtack55]

@@gy5240 Yeah "obviously many people" blah blah. You are the archetypal Theist (believing and asserting without evidence.) Flew argued without evidence and a philosophical argument is not a sound basis for evidence of reality.

[@abuali5513]

Brother Paul, all love and respect from Saudi Arabia. Your clips and highlighted books comments are amazing. May Allah reward you and all brothers around the world high level of paradise.

[@khadijaberrichi4465]

Thank you paul you continue to always share your knowledge 🙏 thank you ,I have learned a lot

[@nbambi2323]

Great video interesting points! I've watched it a few times 👍

[@BloggingTheology]

Awesome, thank you!

[@informationp-unity467]

This was the first video I watched of blogging theology.

[@ahmedrouas8320]

Thank you for this beautiful presentation.

[@Nagamatoishuzen]

I like your voice Paul, I could listen to you every day. Greetings from Austria

[@BloggingTheology]

Wow, thank you!

[@Muzzicreation]

@@BloggingTheology Paul help me. Can some one help me this is not my Question but it was asked to me by a Christian He was saying that if your God in the Quran say that that verses are explained in detail in the Quran itself Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: كِتٰبٌ فُصِّلَتْ ءَايٰتُهُۥ قُرْءَانًا عَرَبِيًّا لِّقَوْمٍ يَعْلَمُونَ "A Book whose verses have been detailed, an Arabic Qur'an for a people who know," (QS. Fussilat 41: Verse 3) Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: أَفَغَيْرَ اللَّهِ أَبْتَغِى حَكَمًا وَهُوَ الَّذِىٓ أَنْزَلَ إِلَيْكُمُ الْكِتٰبَ مُفَصَّلًا  ۚ وَالَّذِينَ ءَاتَيْنٰهُمُ الْكِتٰبَ يَعْلَمُونَ أَنَّهُۥ مُنَزَّلٌ مِّنْ رَّبِّكَ بِالْحَقِّ  ۖ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ "[Say], "Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters." (QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 114) So her Question was Why doesn't the Quran make that clear? Why is there Absolutely no chronology or point Of reference in the "CLEAR" Quran,making the man made Hadith/tafsir necessary? and the author of the Quran even abrogates it can't Allah make up his/Thier mind? Allah claims to have given the torah yet if you read the torah it is concise in it's chronology,history The Quran on the other hand appears to written by uneducated by group of people who heard jewish,Christian and sabian scriptures from the merchant around mecca and medina, then spent 23 years rewriting them as Arab history. Of course, the Quran you have is descendants From what uthman and his scribe rewrote,so that could be part of the problem.

[@edmforeveryone129]

@@Muzzicreation u r blockhead who told u Torah is chronologically historically correct ?It was Rewritten after distruction of temple so God knows who wrote it how much has it been changed?

[@edmforeveryone129]

@@Muzzicreation plus the question u r asking is very weak even a normal muslim could answer it.

[@financialcafe]

Love your British accent, thank you for the clear exposition!

[@BloggingTheology]

Thank you! 😃

[@farleymarly2575]

Wow really informative video. Keep up the great work.

[@BloggingTheology]

Thanks, will do!

[@cognoscenticycles4351]

I am happy that Flew finally woke up to the evidence that was literally all around him. It's never been an absence of evidence, just the willingness to accept it.

[@markjosemanders9778]

nonsense!

[@1aninterpreter1]

God bless you for sharing so much knowledge

[@BloggingTheology]

Glad it was helpful!

[@AliothAncalagon]

I wouldn't exactly call religion "knowledge".

[@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT]

This is the first time I have heard of this guy. The most remarkable thing about him, as far as I can tell, is that his name is a complete sentence.

[@michaelmckinney7240]

With such a serious topic, short, crisp and occasional humor is always a pleasure to encounter.

[@mash0000]

:)

[@honawikeepa5813]

We studied Flew at L'Abri in Sydney Australia. Thanks for the video.

[@lizawake614]

very very cool...very glad for the fellow that he was pondering and thinking on this issue of our CREATOR

[@bekindandmerciful5145]

Outstanding analysis.

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

Yes God exists but not Islamic stupid superman or spiderman type. Who has 2 right hands and one leg.

[@MSS_20]

Our brother paul is always here for us🙂

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

Yes God exists but not Islamic stupid superman or spiderman type. Who has 2 right hands and one leg.

[@MSS_20]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 shut up😂

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

@@MSS_20 truth hurts no?

[@MSS_20]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 what truth is there for your fake religion?

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

@@MSS_20 read description under my videos

[@iamanovercomer6906]

Just subscribed, I want more of these videos

[@BloggingTheology]

Welcome aboard!

[@dustonpath]

Paul. I like your prayer at the end. It is an interesting case study of a person, but we all need the last prayer you said for all khair and all of us.

[@andrewk.5331]

Don’t know a thing about you. First time I’ve seen this channel. I have to give you a huge thumbs up 👍 A dude that sits in a room surrounded by books with a single light - commenting on theological subjects - kudos to you!

[@BloggingTheology]

Welcome aboard!

[@sumanan]

Lots of info on 'Answers in Genesis' on-line. The origins of life and God's wonderful creation; explanations given by scientists who believe in Creation. Beautifully illustrated too.

[@Outspoken.Humanist]

I am presently surrounded by books and I'm a non-believer. Faith and facts are different things. I do not knock your beliefs, I have no right but please watch the video again and focus on the difference between Flew's deistic god and a theistic god.

[@Outspoken.Humanist]

@@sumanan Please please do not rely on AiG. By all means believe what you will, no-one has the right to tell you otherwise, but understand that AiG is not a scientific institution it is a faith based one that deliberately misrepresents science in order to mislead people.

[@andrewk.5331]

@@Outspoken.Humanist "For those that don't believe, no explanation is possible. For those that do believe, no explanation is necessary" We will not be able to change each others' mind.

[@brotherdave2000]

It's a great book. Thank you for calling attention to it.

[@HH-bi7yk]

Forgot to say thank you, Brilliant upload the videos..

[@BloggingTheology]

Many thanks!

[@irfanahmed6411]

Dear brother you are doing great work

[@ikhwanjanzabil3967]

Underlines the very last words, "Let's pray he found the mercyfull God who accepted him into paradise."... Aameen.

[@dreamingclouds2891]

@Planck M. Islam is submission to God in concise terms right? Also consider this verse 4:31 "If you avoid the worst of what you are forbidden, We will remit your sins, and admit you by a Gate of Honor." Is there worse than shirk according to Islam? Allah knows how and why humans came to their conclusions and he is the best and fairest judge. To my knowledge Islam also puts strong emphasis especially on the state we leave this world in. I don't have any particular Hadith to quote at hand, but I am sure there were some I came across.

[@leecee7132]

@Planck M. There is only one God and his son is Jesus Christ who is the only way to God

[@alaouiamine3835]

@@leecee7132 that makes them two 😉

[@bobbobbing4381]

I remember having to memorise Flew's statement on the contradiction of insisting there was life after death, as to say that would be to say you had not died and hence be in contradiction. That was for an exam I sat for one of Anthony O Hare's philosophy modules many, many moons ago. I had not kept up to date with Flew so this video has been an eye opener, thanks!

[@jamesupton4996]

I remember reading Flew on life after death, - logically consistent and quite witty. As you explain it - you do set out a contradiction. As big Ludwig said: Death is not an event in life.

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

Yes God exists but not Islamic stupid superman or spiderman type. Who has 2 right hands and one leg.

[@alaouiamine3835]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 you are everywhere don't you have anything to do? do you really think that two billion people belive that? go educate yourself we don't need your opinion we muslims live because Allah the almighty ordered us to live your statement is meaningless to us we live for Allah and if he ordered us to die we will gladly die people like you will never understand

[@jamesupton4996]

@Borsalino Kizaru No: death is the end of life. There's no existence after it. The philosophical problem is making sense of claims of survival after death.

[@jamesupton4996]

@Borsalino Kizaru Nowhere. I can't be anywhere unless I'm alive.And there is also the time when I'm a baby where I am not me at all. My consciousness still has to develop.

[@engrmunim]

Great argument, Thanks a lots from core of heart

[@laitchdasi]

Your videos are super nice keep up brother

[@BloggingTheology]

Glad you like them!

[@reshmabegum7277]

We should owe to you for bringing reality of science and reinforcement of faith in Islam. Thanks Paul sir.

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

Yes God exists but not Islamic stupid superman or spiderman type. Who has 2 right hands and one leg.

[@reshmabegum7277]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 this is the creation of distorted Christianity which you people believed in. Islam is religion of wisdom and rationality.

[@reshmabegum7277]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 one more thing, open your eyes of heart and see how Paul Williams became muslim, just in search of truth.

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

@@reshmabegum7277 read description under my videos

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

@@reshmabegum7277 read description under my videos

[@tamimi8085]

When I watch Paul : - is Paul asking a Question? -is Paul Answering a Question? Depends on your perspective it might be one of those or both , or he is just putting the information between your hands and it’s up to you how handle it .

[@omotosotajudeen9741]

Quite honestly.

[@davidtuer5825]

You've just explained quantum mechanics.

[@rajaalbattat8271]

Thanks again for beautiful time

[@sabaasif8062]

The passage you read from the book is very similar to what I have heard in a tv program hosted by American, Carl Sagan ,the Cosmologist/scientist.

[@aq7705]

A good ending. Well done. good find!.

[@simplicityistheultimatesop6571]

22-46. Have they not travelled throughout the land so their hearts may reason, and their ears may listen? Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind.

[@georgedoyle7971]

Well said!! And very thought provoking. It reminds me of C.S. Lewis’s “men without chests” quote. “We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.” (C.S.Lewis). All the best to you and your family and keep safe ❤️

[@AliothAncalagon]

Job 2:3: "Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job? For there is no one on earth like him, a man who is blameless and upright, who fears God and shuns evil. He still retains his integrity, even though you incited me against him to ruin him without cause.” According to the bible, God is obviously evil.

[@simplicityistheultimatesop6571]

@@AliothAncalagon the comment you replied to is not from the Bible,it’s from the Quran.

[@AliothAncalagon]

@@simplicityistheultimatesop6571 I can surely provide Quran quotes about talking ants if that helps xD

[@simplicityistheultimatesop6571]

@@AliothAncalagon nothing in the Quran can be debunked,the ants do have the means to communicate.

[@massivechafe]

The satellite phone analogy is a good argument for consciousness not being local to the body but coming from a greater source somewhere inaccessible to us

[@masudsaleh5155]

😂😂😂😂 *Atheists claim that they are intellectually superior to religious people because they are willing to question their beliefs, whereas religious people are dogmatic and refuse to question their deepest beliefs and won't consider evidence that could potentially undermine those beliefs.* Well, have you ever heard an atheist say: "I wonder if constantly increasing individual freedom is a good thing." "I was wrong about democracy being a viable system." "Maybe the sexual revolution was a mistake." "The evidence shows that equality of the sexes is destructive." "Let's have a debate on if freedom of speech and religion is good for society." "Could it be that women need fewer rights?" I have never seen an atheist raise these questions or hold these positions up to serious scrutiny. Nor do they provide any evidence for their beliefs on these matters. They simply assert them and ridicule and mock anyone who disagrees with them.

[@ahmd5]

I have this book 📓 for ages 😎😎. I didn't get to read it yet, now I can push it further down my list 😉

[@bllvir]

That last comment about Flew-and-Paradise needs some UNPACKING! 😉

[@sabaasif8062]

The thing which strikes me that these scientist and philosophers overcame their arrogance and are so honest in their conclusions

[@Toyos-yk3ri]

This is an incredible turn about of a belief system.

[@asmahamidullah9571]

May the Creator bless you and elevate your station! 🤲🏽🌻🤲🏽

[@marieperrett4123]

A

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

Yes God exists but not Islamic stupid superman or spiderman type. Who has 2 right hands and one leg.

[@AliothAncalagon]

The so called "creator" could have done a proper job with his "creation" in the first place. He knew that his creation was flawed before he even started. He foresaw the story with the forbidden tree, the Ark and everything regarding Jesus. And then he proceeded to create it in this very way anyway and managed to be flabbergasted that all of this actually happened. Sounds like a complete idiot to me.

[@AliothAncalagon]

@jay poo And you are said child trying to make sense of something that is simply illogical. God is obviously not happy with the outcome of his creation. Yet he supposedly saw everything coming. But why did he create it that way in the first place then? Thats self-contradictory nonsense. The universe makes sense. And it does not do so to please our "human lenses". It does so because its coherent. Your god is not.

[@ethelparker6664]

He is honest enough to admit, what he believed was wrong. He has a system of thoughts. Three cheers to Anthony Flew.

[@sephatu6521]

Thank you for sharing these interesting findings. I wish I can stomach reading books, while they're interesting, I dont have that capacity now. I am muslim but it's good to learn more about this world. For benefit of myself and perhaps help others along the way with these same questions.

[@sweetmelon3365]

".....preconceived theory shapes our evidence, instead of evidence shaping our theories" powerful!

[@abdulelahkhunji6871]

Is it translated in Arabic ... Paul, You are amazing to provide us with precious books, to see farther 👍🏻❤️👌

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

Yes God exists but not Islamic stupid superman or spiderman type. Who has 2 right hands and one leg.

[@addictedtragedy2788]

@@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108 Where it is Mention that Islam Believe in a God equivalent to spider Man , the God explain in the Quran Reflect much more high , exalted and greatest Abilities , attribute , action and Omnipotence than other religion (Specially A God Of Joke Made with Man own hand and From clay of dirt and Mud)

[@SheikhAlladeen]

The difference between pre-Islamic Ramadan and Islamic Ramadan is that pre-Islamic Ramadan was practiced by pagan tribes in Arabia and Islamic Ramadan is practiced by Muslims all over the world. During Ramadan pagan Arabs used to abstain from food, water, sexual contact etc, from dawn to dusk. Muslims practice the same pagan rituals during Ramadan. It is a well-known fact that Islam adapted this pagan practice of fasting. There is a Hadith in Sahih Bukhari that mentions the ritual. Bukhari 5:58:172 - Narrated Aisha: ‘Ashura was a day on which the tribe of Quraish used to fast in the pre-lslamic period of ignorance. The Prophet also used to fast on this day. So when he migrated to Medina, he fasted on it and ordered (the Muslims) to fast on it. When the fasting of Ramadan was enjoined, it became optional for the people to fast or not to fast on the day of Ashura.’ The fasting for Ashura (10th of Muharram) originated from a Quraish pagan practice. Ramadan fasting came later from Sabian tradition. Sabians are mentioned in several verses of the Quran [al-Baqarah 2:62], [al-Hajj 22:17], [al-Maa’idah 5:69] along with Christians and Jewish. Sabians, a non-Muslim Iraqi tribe, believed in monotheism, observed a 30 day fast every year and prayed 5 times a day.

[@papskhan5541]

Yeah very honest position of him ... and thnku for sharing it ....

[@d.j1339]

Old is still Gold , Paul. SubhanaAllahi wa biHamdihi SubhanaAllahil Adzheem. Salam.

[@athifmuhammed8817]

It's simple we learnt in high school that mass and energy are fundamental in nature it can be converted to other forms.My explanation is that the things we assume as fundamental in this universe has to be created by an omnipresent force

[@ahmedhassanadam7248]

I like this man to be honest...He talks nothing from his personal perspectives...but comments everything from books and in between the comments mentions the authors... THAT'S VERY ENLIGHTING TO MANY I BELIVE....BCZ HAVE COME TO KNOW MANY BOOKS BECAUSE OF HIM...MAY ALLAH BLESS U WITH A LONG LIFE AND ONLY HIM KNOWS WHAT REWARD IS WORTH TO BE GIVEN.... HATS OFF MR.....😎

[@ahmedxz5918]

"The blind is not in his eyes but in his heart" . A meaning of a verse in Quran

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

yup and if you are honest and fear Allah, Allah guides you in Qur'an 33 : 70. Seeking a path to knowledge makes the path to paradise easy by Allah - hadith

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

Heart? Why would a master-slave relationship require heart?

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

@Mohamed Boualem You clearly haven't listened to scholars on this topic. It's actually one of the few topics they are almost honest about (except in dawah).

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

@@mcpm1177 Well even if it's as great as you say it still doesn't require love.

[@joe1431jj]

@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 brother ... shia are not false sects ... they follow the purest cleanest holiest imams after prophet PBUH

[@faceup9257]

Wow the analogy was so thoughtful...

[@mranony9130]

Very interesting TY.

[@andrewthomas2353]

Thank you for sharing this with us. Some people need a deep philosophical journey to get them to God....

[@AliothAncalagon]

Philosophy is about understanding. Christianity is only about itself and the narcassistic idea that the ruler of the universe is personally concerned about your sexuality. Thats why its not really offering "understanding" regarding anything. The last good Christian argument I heard of was the one that was asking weither God is evil, because he wants people to suffer.

[@andrewthomas2353]

@@AliothAncalagon If you read widely and watch many other videos, you will discover that there's much more to Christian philosophy than you think there is. The fact that a great God concerns himself with us is really amazing, and his concern regarding our sexuality reflects his benevolence and desire to see us florish as individuals and as communities and as the human race. It's not really narcissistic since its implications regarding moral responsibility demand that we don't think only of ourselves but also help others. Living without regard for God's presence or existence could just as easily also be narcissistic, but is not necessarily so.

[@AliothAncalagon]

@@andrewthomas2353 God is so benevolent that he even tortures devout followers of his without reason. Job 2:3: "Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job? For there is no one on earth like him, a man who is blameless and upright, who fears God and shuns evil. He still retains his integrity, even though you incited me against him to ruin him without cause.” The story the bible tells is nonsensical. Thats just a simple realization of anyone who actually reads it without ignoring all the nonsense written in it. You are a cherry picker wannabe christian. Don't get me wrong, its a good thing that you don't listen to the advice of the bible that says that you should kill gays or children that aren't obedient enough. Or those parts of the bible that explain which specific rules you should follow if you sell your daughter into slavery. But this should tell you that the bible is neither "holy" nor is its content especially wise or clever. Its just a story some dudes from 2000 years ago wrote down. Some of it is nice advice, much of it is prehistoric nonsense. And the reason why I can see that and you don't (yet?) is that I read parts of the bible that you obviously choose to ignore. The reason why you ignore the stupid parts of the bible and clutch at the rest is that your moral values don't come from the bible. If this was any different all your moral values would agree with the bible. They don't because your actual morality decides which parts of the bible you want to take seriously. You should care for a widow? Your morality says yes, so lets read that part more often and feel good about the "great values" in your holy fantasy novel. Killing fortune tellers? Your morality says no, so lets try to avoid that part as often as possible to not feed the idea that your holy fantasy novel is not so moral after all. Your morality does not need a book. And I am extremely glad that your personal morality is more powerful than the moral ideas from some iron age men who happened to write a book people now take very seriously. Because it means that you are a more moral person than those original authors originally intended you to be.

[@marigold9736]

I am amazed human beings rely on their minds so much but once was nothing but it slowly developed as human beings grows so does the awareness but was consciousness was there all along. Consciousness don't exists without a creator. Brother Paul thank you so much for sharing you beautiful thinking mind and beautiful heart. May Allah bless us all with infinite ways of merciful love. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🚀🚀🚀

[@strikemaster1]

Everyone feels God, but some dont want to acknowledge it because they know it will disrupt their fun of life outside of God.

[@sohaibamir4699]

Wise words

[@paulrobert3325]

Excellent Content

[@rougebaba3887]

In a discussion with an atheist friend of mine, he asked me to provide evidence that God exists. So I offered the complex specified information encoded in DNA as "EVIDENCE of a creating intelligence at the core of our experienced material reality." His response? "Now how would that prove God?" I looked at him confused. "Walt! You asked me for evidence." Funny, rather than engaging my evidence, he warped his request for evidence into a demand for absolute proof.

[@wawawick247]

As a wise turtle said "There are no accident."

[@mithrasrevisited4873]

Accident? So your god, where did HE come from? Did he have a mummy and daddy or how far back do we run this?

[@wawawick247]

@@mithrasrevisited4873 butthurt atheist how about watch the video first then talk.

[@TH3-ON3]

@@mithrasrevisited4873 He was always there for he is outside space time continuum. There is no such a thing as a "beginning" for god for he is Immortal and eternal.

[@muslimwoolfy-winterequestr4344]

@@TH3-ON3 exactly Atheists ask that a lot

[@mithrasrevisited4873]

@@wawawick247 Now who is preaching?

[@mash0000]

Dear Br. Paul, Thank you for discussing this impotrat issue. I came across your channel last week and have watched a few of the episodes including the interview with Shaykh Abdul Hakim Murad (T.J. Winters), who is my favorite Islamic scholar in the western world I am impressed with the substantive and informed contents you post and the interviews with leading thinkers that you bring to your channel. Keep up the good work. May God bless you and family. In the context of the topic under discussion here, it will be an interesting exploration if you could discuss the Quranic verse (41:53) "In time We shall make them fully understand Our messages [through what they perceive] in the utmost horizons [of the universe] and within themselves, so that it will become clear unto them that this [revelation] is indeed the truth [Still,] is it not enough [for them to know] that thy Sustainer is witness unto everything?" (Muhammed Asad, The Message of the Quran, 41:53) based on the commentaries from the classical tafsirs inclduing those from the Islamic mystical tradition. Also it would be fascinating to see what Ashari and Maturidi theology says on this issue. Shaykh Abdul Hakim Murad can definitely give you enough support in this effort if you succeed in getting some time from him.

[@abdulelahkhunji6871]

Amazing information 🌹👍🏻❤️

[@muslimwoolfy-winterequestr4344]

This channel is underrated

[@fuckingsean8922]

Super underrated. Felt like a diamond hidden in the rough of KZbin. I expect the channel to grow !

[@farooqahmad3489]

Insha'Allah.

[@muslimwoolfy-winterequestr4344]

@@fuckingsean8922 Yeah

[@guillermoperezsantos]

Becasuse is a piece of trash

[@alaouiamine3835]

@@marksandsmith6778 **angry atheist noises**

[@mohammadalaaelghamry8010]

You make amzing vedios, thank you, I ask God to guide us all to the truth

[@BloggingTheology]

Glad you like them!

[@m77ast]

Interesting indeed - thanks for that.

[@Arentjansz]

Greta video, thanls flor the introducción tontee book, sello done, GOD BLESS

[@lizmcdermott2904]

Matthew 11:25 “I thank you Father, Lord of heaven and earth, for you have hidden these things from the wise abs the learned and revealed them to mere infants”.

[@waynewilkins637]

You stole my lines, God bless you.

[@russellmillar7132]

Take the Bible out of context much?

[@kyliantembo6438]

Amen

[@androidbutterscotchkitty]

What version is this?

[@relaxingmindfoodandmma5108]

Yes God exists but not Islamic stupid superman or spiderman type. Who has 2 right hands and one leg.

[@atilaorhan3922]

A clear and succinct argument supporting the existence of a creator, dear fellow; though i say so as a theist myself.

[@mrtransmogrify]

Flew was true to his field of discipline - philosophy ... Wherever it pointed convincingly to him, he went...

[@inthegarage342]

That is by far the most elaborate, scientific, conclusive, enlightened, humilitistic, description of God I think I've ever heard. The only thing left is to except that description into your heart.

[@benavraham4397]

The most interesting point was, that if nature gives rise to consciousness, then consciousness must have already been there attracting nature in this direction. Actually, that is awesome!

[@AliothAncalagon]

That just sounds like a very narcissistic assumption. In your view the most defining attribute of yourself is your consciousness. So you just assume consciousness is the most important thing in the universe. But its really not.

[@AliothAncalagon]

@Tom Sutherland Depending on how you define it you can also exchange "consciousness" with "the force" from Star Wars and get the same result. Some people are simply dodging into vagueness because that feels like you provide a smaller target that way. But religion is not really so vague if we are honest. Religions claim that they know what the ruler of the universe thinks about our sexuality. If they are suddenly getting vague when they are required to spit some actual facts, this is a sign that they are hiding in vagueness on purpose.

[@benavraham4397]

@@AliothAncalagon I have thought about consciousness being but a small part of what we are. I would imagine that 95% of what bodies do, we have no awareness of. For example, do you have any awareness of your uriters transporting urine from the kidneys to the bladder? Do you know HOW your brain works or which muscles lift your hand? Healthy people don't know of such things. Our consciousness runs a very small part of our lives. But why are some people in prison? Because of what they did with their consciousness. Yet their entire body goes to prison, not just the mind or soul. When a king is asleep, nobody fears him until he wakes up. So, I am convinced, that consciousness is the real meaning of what we are. I also wonder, is our individualality real? We come from ancestors, and our parents hope that we give rise to future generations, and a person alone, is completely disfunctional. We are like knots in a net

[@AliothAncalagon]

@@benavraham4397 None of your points is wrong per se. And on some I would agree. But its really important to understand that you have decided here what "the real meaning" is according to YOUR personal point of view. Because "meaning" is no objective property in the first place. You can decide that consciousness gives things meaning. And I would say that there is some truth to that. If you would theoretically only be sleepwalking your entire life without consciously taking part its not hard to convince someone that this can hardly be the "meaning" of our existence. But this is no objective reality. Its the subjective truth of a species that holds active consciousness in very high regard..... because thats its own reality. If you will, its a very selfish perspective. We say that the thing has meaning that we want to have meaning because its what our existence is made of. If our reality would be different, our perspective might be entirely different.

[@benavraham4397]

@@AliothAncalagon You push my mind into a corner to understand, and that's fine. I can imagine that from the view of a sea spunge, consciousness, would seem superfulous. But the sea spunge is a component of a larger web of life which does reveal levels of consciousness in its spectrum. From a rock's perspective, is any life at all necessary? Maybe we are selfish to imagine that life is essential. After all, we are all destine to return to the "inanimate." (But I actually, what I believe is that, all is connected and consciennes permiates everything, but is concealed in most of the universe, and revealed life, and in human consciousness most of all).

[@imranlodhi90]

Asalamu Aleykum warahmatullahi wabarakaatuh brother Paul! Hope you are doing well! Are there concrete Peer Reviewed, Meta analytical research supporting evidences for a God/Intelligent Design rather than what some philosophers of science claim? Thank You!

[@BloggingTheology]

Salam yes there are!

[@imranlodhi90]

@@BloggingTheology Ok nice! DO You know some sources/references for Peer Reviewed, meta analytical research where I can look at? Thank You! I really enjoy your videos, Keep Up the Good work! 🙂

[@s.elh.3281]

I never actually doubted that we and the world are created. But what I found really interesting: in a computer science program at the university I learned about evolutionary algorithms. In this learned about the work of Ingo Rechenberg and his so called Evolution Strategy idea. He is an engineer, so he is into maths and calculating things, and according to his calculations the estimated age of the earth would not be enough time to evolve something such complex as e.g. the human eye simply by "random" mutation and selection. I found this very interesting, because his work has noting to do with religion or even philosophy, but to me as religious person it confirms the idea that there our creation is full of wisdom and even the mechanism helping the nature to develop and adopt are full of wisdom and by no means random.

[@youtubeboy5700]

mr.paul thanks for uzbek subtitle😊😊

[@jimmyconway475]

The book sounds good, I must big up a copy. I've been questioning my faith a bit lately

[@samdg1234]

As C.S. Lewis pointed out, this questioning may come about for 1 of 2 reasons. Have real reasons against Christianity turned up? They will need to be faced. More often faith comes up against our mere moods. In this case, a trained faith tells our moods "where they get off". Here is a bit of a quote from Mere Christianity, "I am not talking of moments at which any real new reasons against Christianity turn up. Those have to be faced and that is a different matter. I am talking about moments where a mere mood rises up against it. now Faith, in the sense in which I am here using the word, is the art of holding on to things your reason has once accepted, in spite of your changing moods. For moods will change, whatever view your reason takes. I know that by experience. now that I am a Christian I do have moods in which the whole thing looks very improbable: but when I was an atheist I had moods in which Christianity looked terribly probable. This rebellion of your moods against your real self is going to come anyway. That is why Faith is such a necessary virtue: unless you teach your moods "where they get off," you can never be either a sound Christian or even a sound atheist, but just a creature dithering to and fro, with its beliefs really dependent on the weather and the state of its digestion. Consequently one must train the habit of Faith." I hope that might be of help to you. If you want more from this, look here, *www.samizdat.qc.ca/vc/pdfs/MereChristianity_CSL.pdf* The quote that I have given here is from Chapter 11 'Faith' from Book III which begins on page 75

[@jimmyconway475]

@@samdg1234 totally agree! My sentiment indeed. Thanks for the info. Christos Victor!

[@samdg1234]

@@jimmyconway475 God bless you.

[@entwood]

@@samdg1234 Unfortunately this book was not authored by Flew. It is a forgery. The evidence is here: richardcarrier.blogspot.com/2007/11/antony-flew-bogus-book.html?fbclid=IwAR0Mo0DBG-IXNUPfpE_Y48l5L-rzcjfZ1dN7EkHoq876iUBrqZVDBjIImYI

[@samdg1234]

@@entwood I'm not sure why you are attaching your comment to this thread. Flew isn't even mentioned here. *"It is a forgery."* What would be required for that to be the case? You do realize that Roy Abraham Varghese is credited with some if not all of the writing? I gave the piece you linked to a quick read. I read this book years ago. I don't remember it in detail. From my recollection, what is important was exactly what your linked article admits as well. Namely, the line from Richard Carrier, "I'm well known for my correspondence with Flew on the matter of his conversion from weak atheism to strong Deism". Isn't this in line with the title of the book. Whereas once Flew would have maintained that there was no God, he, at the time of the writing saw that as untenable and affirmed that his belief was that there was a God.

[@colossusforbin5484]

I believe there's an 'intelligent energy' that created the universe. It's not a 'being' or 'god'. It doesn't punish or judge. It just is.

[@brycemitchell6343]

Interesting! I believe a little more than that but I do think many of the ways we conceptualize God are anthropomorphisms so we can better grasp the concept, but are flawed analogies

[@coolbill9301]

@@brycemitchell6343 interesting also, but what if God is in fact like the anthropomorphist concepts , because if he wasnt, how else would we understand him from our viewpoint ? God, if closer to humans, could be more logical and possible to grasp in our minds, and not a flawed analogy. just a little thought

[@harrytd]

Stephen Meyer's books, particularly Darwin's Doubt and The Return of the God Hypothesis give you the detailed scientific and astonishing mathematical underpinnings of Flew's argument. Warning: These books are compelling. It is near impossible to put them down once started. Highly recommended.

[@BloggingTheology]

Agreed!

[@wordofakingKJV1611]

Stephen Meyer has become the Atheist's boogeyman.

[@ramigilneas9274]

@@wordofakingKJV1611 Nah, you simply have to watch the video where Meyer tries to defend his book against two actual biologists... who effortlessly debunk all of his silly arguments. That was hilarious.😂 That’s like if I would claim that Richard Carrier is the Christians boogeyman.😂

[@yishif1244]

@@HoneybunMegapack well then I am a biochemist and I understand what he says. I would say that fans Dawkins are naive as well. So what's your point?

[@yishif1244]

@@HoneybunMegapack still again , you saying I am deluded without evidence makes you the deluded one. So anyone who doesn't agree with you is deluded? Is that a good way to have a meaningful conversation?

[@honahwikeepa2115]

We talked about Flew in our home group. His relationship with Lewis and so on.

[@faizanahmed086]

V good brother. May Allah increase your knowledge and deen.

[@RoseSharon7777]

The human individual personality and emotions and how this leaves a body "lifeless" at death is what has always kept me a believer in intelligent design. Too complex to have evolved from nothing. Much less the emotions and personalities of animals. Its an AMAZING creation and I for one look forward to the other side of the veil.

[@masudsaleh5155]

Are you a woman?