How They Made Multiball Work in an E.M. - 1971 Bally Four Million B.C. Pinball Machine Schematics

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[@martywolfman]

What an absolutely awesomely cool game! Skill shot, ramp, kickback, 3 ball muliball, zipper flippers and that interesting ball Walker thing, not only all in the same table, but an EM to boot! Fantastic game

[@LyonsArcade]

Yeah they really were thinking outside of the box by this time!

[@sodapopinski690]

I'm binge watching these EM repair vids. I'm hoping it will start to sink in if I watch enough of them. I still get confused reading schematics.

[@LyonsArcade]

You'll get it Aunt Esther, thanks for watching! Today's video is like super high level complex Schematics, about as complicated as they get!

[@billmcdonald2436]

This machine reminds me of when I overhauled my Wurlitzer 2204. All the switches and wires and transformers. Cool stuff

[@LyonsArcade]

Oooh now you're talking, I'm a sucker for a Wurly. I've got several, i'm looking at one in my living room right now, a 2410! Thanks for watching Bill!

[@bobmonzo3137]

An EM with multi ball and zipper flippers. Doesn’t get much better! Love it.

[@LyonsArcade]

Yup, pretty awesome!

[@pauz2175]

Man. Not only are your tech tips awesome. But you sold me on this pin. I want one!!!

[@LyonsArcade]

I'm trying to get more people interested in the older ones they're so cool!

[@1314zerosktr]

“The probability thats a problem is probable” its wise words like this that keep me coming back

[@miguelrios4602]

Thanks, Ronnie... All’s I have to say is rock the bells!

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks Miguel, we'll see you on the next one :)

[@tcb8295]

Definitely a masterpiece in it's day, and even today. Thanks Ron for taking us along.

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks for hanging out and watching!

[@1959blantz]

I remember playing this machine many years ago when I was a kid at a county fair in my town, I'm thinking it was 1972 or 1973. I spent all my time and money in the arcade tent and never rode the rides. I would tell people about playing a game that had flippers that not only moved up and down but also side to side, and everyone said I was crazy and must have dreamt it. This machine is beautiful for being 50 years old. I enjoy newer games but the older EM machines are in a class by themselves. The older game designers came up with original themes unlike the modern ones today (Stern, Jersey Jack) that use bands, movies, and TV shows. I've watched your videos for years but never see you in any of them, or on your brother Donnie's channel.

[@LyonsArcade]

Yeah I like the original themes myself too, seems more creative to me! I don't like being in the videos, the game is the star of the show :) Thanks for watching B L!

[@cthlhu]

I have such a soft spot for these early stunner flipper games ... and the zipper feature is just so freaking cool. Capersville (another Ted Zale) is on my bucketlist games to own.

[@LyonsArcade]

Yeah I think people are missing the boat when they complain about the flippers, the game design takes into account the flipper size, it's all about if you want to enjoy it or not, lol

[@thomasmickle7289]

These are my favorite videos where you show all the actions that need to happen in the schematics.

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks Thomas, today's video is super high level schematics on this game's Volcano Motor :)

[@vapor3764]

Really like watching your videos. I played pinball as early as the late 60's. The oldest pinball machines that I remember playing were the ones that you had to push the ball up before you sent it off onto the playing field. It was a dime to play and you got five balls. If I was to play pinball now, now that I have watched several of your videos, I would surely be thinking about the complexity involved that makes all the bells, lights, scoring, etc. work so perfectly. I eagerly fed many dimes and quarters into these magnificent machines long ago and experienced hours of unadulterated fun. If I let myself drift back to those times just briefly... oh what a thrill it was to hear the sudden sound of the knocker (after several games of trying) announce that I had performed well enough to earn a free game. Good memories.

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks for watching W H, they certainly are magical machines. If you think about it, the only reason they were created was to entertain people and they've each had thousands of people play them, they've seen a lot of good times! Thanks for watching, see you on the next video!

[@canuckchuck8836]

Looking good! High humidity is another pinball machine killer. All the switches, relays, motors, playfield metals...not to mention the wonders humidity does to the electronics and the backglass.

[@MrVectrex]

This must be one of the coolest EM-machines ever built imao. I was checking up Mr. Zale in IPDB and there where a whole bunch of machines he designed, (77 records match in 10 years), now thats a big WOW! So many genious constructions to get everything working. This is way more than the SS-machines offerd when they were introduced. Big thanks for this series Ron. 👍

[@LyonsArcade]

He was a really cool guy, we're going to talk about him more on Friday's video.

[@thomasmickle7289]

Got my "play at Joe's" hoodie this weekend. Love it!

[@LyonsArcade]

Very cool Thomas, we appreciate you repping us :)

[@Jeroen_a]

I caught you uploading when i was driving my car... but now it's cup-a-tea time :)

[@spudthegreaterusa8386]

Never been much of a pinball guy, but that very simple layout has a lot of action and sounds 👍. excellent vid once again Ron.

[@LyonsArcade]

Thank you Spud!

[@walterclement4861]

I watched this video and thoroughly enjoyed it. I miss working on E.M. pinball machines. The last one I worked on was Gottliebs Big Brave. Which was originally called Big Injun . This name did not set too well with some of the Native American workers. So Gottleb had to change the name. I think only a handful of the Big Injuns got out . Whoever has one is very very lucky

[@walterclement4861]

Meant to say the Native American workers at the Gottleb plant

[@pcachu]

Confirmed, this machine was designed by an insane genius.

[@LyonsArcade]

Yup. We're going to talk about him a little bit on Friday's video.

[@TiltingT]

This game is a must have for the collection..great EM with great well thought out rule set

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks TiltingT!

[@mlmmt]

That.. is a pretty fast looking and very fun looking EM machine!

[@LyonsArcade]

Definitely a fun one!

[@Skeemaster]

the bells ! hahahaha awesome! looking great

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks OneFoYo!

[@1976aztec]

Thisa is really a neat game a lot of nice features for the era.

[@simondempsey1]

I remember playing a williams Doozie with zipper flippers!

[@LyonsArcade]

All the Williams games had such great names :)

[@Jeroen_a]

I think the tar pit is the best feature :D

[@LyonsArcade]

It's pretty cool and well thought out, it's a tar pit so it takes awhile for the ball to get out of there :)

[@macdaddyns]

A very cool game, so advance for the time. Since the back glass is perfect, wouldn't now be the best time to triple think it? Thanks for the series, keep up the great work!

[@LyonsArcade]

We leave them alone if they have lasted this long in perfect shape I don't want to clear coat it, because we don't know long term if it will damage anything. Just leave it original and take care of it....

[@JackT_Music_on_Vinyl]

Great work and thanks for the edumacation!

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks for watching Jack, we appreciate it!

[@mikesummers4712]

wow, how awesome is this pin, compared to say flip a card , similar year . this is way more advanced.

[@LyonsArcade]

Ted Zale was the man!

[@seancurry2863]

Great video as always. That extra ball logic in the schematic is just like looking at program logic flow when I develop software.

[@LyonsArcade]

Very cool, glad they still use something similar to this old lader logic!

[@danijelcar5184]

That is rare thing, nice to see that old EM's had multiball game also😎👍

[@LyonsArcade]

Yes some of them did but not many! I think about a dozen.

[@rcfreeman]

By the Way, .....that was AWESOME! Nicely DONE! Made my head spin a little on the schematic, wishing I paid better attention in physics class. :)

[@LyonsArcade]

Haha nice talking to you man!

[@TheKurtsPlaceChannel]

Very nicely put together video and very entertaining as well. Thanks for posting this.

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks Kurt, glad you enjoyed it!

[@buddyweiz]

Doin' the 👍before even pressin' play! 😉

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks Buddy!

[@johnhammond3482]

thats a great pinball machine i will be waitng for part 5. and thanks for a great video i enjoyed watching

[@LyonsArcade]

Thank you for watching John, we appreciate it!

[@Jeroen_a]

This is a really nice machine, Well kept up and nice game play :) Skill shot for the win! :) i just watched the entire thing because life (mainly sleep) got into my way :D

[@LyonsArcade]

Thank you for watching Jeroen :)

[@Indiskret1]

Another great one! Could easily become a favorite! Looks like I'm hooked on your channel, hehe. Thanks for sharing all these wonderful games and the work you do on them.

[@LyonsArcade]

Thank you for watching we appreciate you hanging out and giving each game a chance :)

[@jims.6574]

One crazy game for an EM. Ahead of its time.

[@LyonsArcade]

Yeah they really went wild on this one!

[@andymouse]

What a great game...cheers!

[@cklinejr]

I waited all weekend for this video.

[@LyonsArcade]

Today's the day :)

[@cklinejr]

Joe's Classic Video Games it’s good to have something to look forward to!

[@flatfingertuning727]

What would happen if two balls went into the tar pit simultaneously during multi-ball, so that both balls were past the gate before the first ball hit the top switch? Would the machine be "stuck" until an operator intervenes, or would there be some mechanism by which the tar pit could advance (e.g. if the tar pit advanced on power-up, getting two balls stuck in the tar pit would unfairly end the current game for all players, but power cycling would restore the game to operation). Also, have you ever seen Balls-a-Poppin' (1956)? I don't think I've seen one in person, but I've seen a couple videos of it, and it looks pretty cool. Instead of using "lock" shots, it has an auto-plunger which adds up to eight "wild balls" in addition to the ball in play.

[@LyonsArcade]

Looking at the schematics, I think it would be stuck and wouldn't be able to start a game or kick a ball out, I think they have the gate at the top setup so well though that it would be nearly impossible for that to happen, there is a little metal post that makes the ball bounce to the left, and they may have added that just so two balls wouldn't be able to roll down into the tar pit while touching each other (which might make it past the gate)... since they have to bounce around a little bit the gate would close before the second ball made it in. I've never had a Balls-a-poppin in person, but it'd be a fun one to work on for sure!

[@Indiskret1]

I still have a demagnetizer which I use for cassette player heads. Quite powerful with an adjustable head. Wouldn't such an apparatus work instead of the hammer method? 😜

[@LyonsArcade]

I think it may :) I wouldn't know though, i've only tried the hammer method, lol Thank you for watching as always...

[@markwhitfield5412]

that sticking relay for the green light, stick the volt meter on the coil and see if it's getting a voltage, if not use a degaussing wand to demagnetize it.

[@frankgagliano9677]

Great video, Love the bells can not beat it. Looks like it plays fast. Can not wait to see the next video. The multiball is it 2 balls? Thank Ron for filming the video.

[@LyonsArcade]

It can be 2 or 3 balls depending on what you have locked. Basically you have two locks and you can knock either ball back into play at any time.

[@demofilm]

I like it .

[@LyonsArcade]

Very fun game!

[@ArtStoneUS]

Not only are the held balls retained from game to game, but also player to player in multiplayer mode

[@gorillaau]

Yes, perhaps that should have been said.

[@EsotericArctos]

I never thought I would see a back-glass from that error with no cracking whatsoever in it. This one doesn't even look like it has faded much. The playfield is fantastic too. This really looks like a machine that was mostly in a home environment or has been really well looked after by the operator. Am I right in thinking the Multiball on this could be upto 4 balls given where it can hold balls?

[@LyonsArcade]

The gentleman that owns it said his dad bought it in Atlanta he thinks in the early 80's and it's been in their house the whole time.... It can only do up to 3 balls. Thanks for watching Brendan!

[@lepinstar1089]

Sometimes you can go from hero to zero really quick with those multi balls!

[@LyonsArcade]

Yup, ain't that how it goes!

[@ArtStoneUS]

The blue bumper is working as intended. It resets off when ball # or player number advances, and is turned on again after you roll over the first switch on the ramp.

[@MegaSpambox]

Another awesome job Ron :)

[@TheGnomestead]

Snap! I am falling behind on my watchin' I'm slackin

[@LyonsArcade]

I've been uploading like crazy!!!!!

[@TheGnomestead]

@@LyonsArcade I can tell it's making my head spin lol can you slow down til fall? 🤣😂 Keep up the good job my friend and great content!

[@TheGnomestead]

Ok I tried gotta go back and watch the rest first ✌️😁 I'll be Back!!!!

[@LyonsArcade]

alright Doc, i'll see you when you get Back to the Future!

[@O2BFISHN]

A friend of mine gave me 2 old Gottlieb pinball games. Thanks to you I have been able to get the TOP Score bowling 1975 working. The second pinball Gottlieb Baseball 1970 has been worked on by someone with less knowledge than I have and the coin unit has been removed. It tries to start but I am not sure whether the missing coin unit is causing the problem or if I am missing something. Would you give me your email address so I can send some pictures? Thanks

[@LyonsArcade]

Sure our email address is on our website at Lyonsarcade.com

[@katenunyabizness9221]

FYI, seems youtube is randomly turning off notifications again. Also, on your notepad, what most of us think is a rubber bumper band and you've called a sock a time or two, maybe it is one of Donnie's socks! ;-)

[@LyonsArcade]

It very well could be one of his socks but there's no stripes :)

[@DjResR]

Relay contacts weld together perhaps preventing relay from opening? If true: relay needs cleaning or replacing._

[@xheralt]

Did you ever check the TILT sensor? 😉

[@LyonsArcade]

I did!

[@renatowertheim]

i think fireball has zipper flipper mechanism too

[@LyonsArcade]

It does!

[@renatowertheim]

@@LyonsArcade ok

[@ryanwolf7174]

The lights in the middle of not turning on with the red and white circles

[@LyonsArcade]

Thank you Ryan

[@jasonudall8614]

A anyone else see the similarity between these schematics and ladder diagrammed used with PLC?

[@livingdeadbtu]

Must be incredibly hard to play it without testing the tilt function

[@tattmanndann]

what kind of evil monster takes the bells off?

[@LyonsArcade]

Normies

[@tattmanndann]

@@LyonsArcade ah gross

[@anthonyvonelli2114]

Same designer as Fireball?

[@LyonsArcade]

Yup!

[@lacrossed55]

Punjab lasso

[@gregoryschmidt1233]

aw, you beat me to it. :)

[@LyonsArcade]

Only 2 of you cared to mention it :) Everybody else is living a slightly less exciting life :)

[@PRRGG1]

It's not a pop bumper its a thumper bumper!

[@LyonsArcade]

It's a Jet Bumper

[@psy0rz]

I think they ruined the scoring by making thkse things 1000 instead of 100.

[@SpookyDeCat]

Weak little ears?..............Volume control?

[@raybyrnes3516]

What a cool old game!! I really like the tar pit idea. And E.M. multiball....get outta here!!! I hope to find one to play out there somewhere

[@LyonsArcade]

They made quite a few of them, your local barcade may end up with one :)