How This Poker Star Became The Most Despised Man In Poker

[@PokerBoomYT]

What are your honest thoughts on Howard Lederer?

[@kvom01]

I have better things to do than think about him

[@mikebelnap3079]

He’s a scumbag

[@Yawelcome213]

He will pass away due to obesity and karma little peepee syndrome

[@philipberggren1823]

A greedy smug pos that do not regret anything but that they got caught. His ”apology” is just pure bullshit. Dont miss him and hope his life is pure shit.

[@RodgerRamjet]

well, he lost 7 figures of money.. he publicly apologized.. he's been humiliated at a world level, for a man who seemed to value the respect of the Poker community greatly did he F up ?? seems so.. hard to say if he simply let someone else "dupe" him, when he is a genuine mathematical genius.. i had huge admiration and respect for him, followed his career starting 2002. but... not knowing the "numbers" of your business where bogus.. thats hard to swallow.. impossible ? no.. and no criminal charges were leveled at him, which i think is more telling. i played a LOT on Full Tilt.. i mean a lot, and lost only a few dollars on black friday (not everyone was made whole, and it was truly chump change, so never sweated it ).. you either give people a second chance, or you dont.. not up to be to forgive him. if i sat down at a table and he was there, i would shake his hand, and just move on. are you going to hold a grudge for decades ?? most everyone, from what i just saw, got any money they had in Full Tilt back.. so the harm was.. not egregious by any length. and given how much i loved online poker, maybe it was a good thing i cant play anymore.. lol.. same for Chris Ferguson.. before all this, they were top poker pros in the world. i think the poker game should welcome them back, and just play poker.. dont like the guy ? ok.. just keep it to yourself.. beat them at the table.. not beat them up on social media..

[@allanshpeley4284]

This documentary explained nothing. Total waste of time.

[@johnbernhardtsen3008]

not a single word on How he did it!

[@VIpanfried]

Thanks for the tip

[@Bokuzen035]

@@johnbernhardtsen3008 How? It's a Ponzi scheme they only work one way...

[@qanondon2100]

So you guys didn’t watch how he conned people with a Ponzi scheme

[@roycedot]

Thanks - saved me the watch

[@TwoFourFixate]

This is a total fail . . . You failed to give us any description of what actually happened.

[@Wakka12321]

I swear poker was on all channels and everyone wanted to become pros. But when this scam was exposed all that hype died. I cant remember last time I saw poker on TV

[@nrford100]

On Dish, at least 3 big tournaments have been shown in the last week or so.

[@outdoorsjoe]

Two poker channels on Pluto.

[@ignaciosavi7739]

Scam?

[@theCranesUS]

@@nrford100if you are looking. OP’s point…. You have to search for poker. Previously you could not avoid poker

[@FrederickTorres-w7f]

There's some great ones. Stones and the Lodge have good streams. Try to grow up a little, is anyone honestly surprised that poker attracts some degenerate behavior? That doesn't mean there isn't a good community of people committed to fair play out there, and those are the ones you should be supporting

[@buffwheel]

Full Tilt still owes me $8.00😡

[@thejanglezclan]

I remember months before the Black Friday shutdown, a few of my withdrawals took longer than usual and I used the FTP points for redeeming a few items (baseball cap and a t-shirt.) Those items never came. I've always felt that these issues, albeit small and personal, were kind of the writing on the wall for FTP's downfall. Poor oversight and shadiness were going on long before the 'Black Friday' downfall.

[@SmithCommaBenjamin]

Same... I would keep getting account credits for long withdrawl times... that never came. I did get a deck of cards though from the university. Still unopened

[@Rinster17]

I had about $6,000 frozen on D-Day and I never saw any of that money again and shortly after, NY banned online poker for money and it's STILL against the law in NY. I only lost about $300 total - the rest was profit, but I was pissed. I earned that money. I tried really hard to get it too. I never saw a dime.

[@stevenleone9627]

That suck's

[@mikebordeaux8218]

I lost $1700 and never saw a dime returned.

[@allgems]

I had about $3000 frozen for a year and then filed a claim as instructed and got a check from the US treasury..

[@stephenhenley7452]

Sounds very much like they didn't do their due diligence. While they lent their names to the sites as endorsements, they also didn't have much control over day-to-day operations and the entire scheme was suspect if they'd done SOME digging. I don't have much problem with these two playes despite the seizure

[@billybegood466]

Poker Black Friday was a huge event in my life. I was getting ready to quit my job and play full time because it was so lucrative and full of fish. And then BOOM, no more poker.

[@markz5505]

I was going to do the same. I was making more money playing poker part time than I did at my full time job.

[@howardwylie1620]

I was also on the fence, killing it in tournaments, no one knew how play. Those were the days. Then that day we will never forget happened. What could have been ?

[@zeebags9885]

It was a political move that brought the entire industry down for no reason except the egos of disgusting politicians who soak us all by exempting themselves from insider trading laws! Those are the real leeches. Lederer didn’t do enough to protect the money that’s clear. But I don’t think he deserves a lifetime ban. He’s been the face of this debacle for long enough. And virtually everyone eventually got their money back thanks to PokerStars. Time to let him come back and beat Negreanu on the felt where they can settle it in a steel cage match. 😂

[@72markmiester]

Wow, I never knew what really happened to him. Thank you for putting this on.

[@PokerBoomYT]

Thanks for checking out the video!

[@yveslaflute9228]

FBI seized over 1K USDs from me, pokerstars gave it back, I dont play poker anymore, now I play stars casino...

[@Coryalan2]

​@@PokerBoomYTI poop on my bed regularly

[@x2lazyx]

Lmao most of them fell off from online piker too many ppl getting scam

[@acousticshadow4032]

And you still don't know, Mark. This video explained very little.

[@Untamedlove]

I really hate it when someone does something Bad but people mention how intelligent they are....being a Genius means nothing if you don't have Common sense....its just a UNABOMBER MOMENT

[@toptenguy1]

If they were so smart, they would not have gotten caught! Lulz

[@_chrisbuzz]

Even knowing this, Full Tilt was the greatest online poker experience ever. I play on ACR now, and it is great in its own way. Still doesnt compare to the excitement of Full Tilt. I loved so many things about it down to the little things like receiving a t shirt for eliminating a pro.

[@climbon3157]

I loved Full Tilt. Black Friday was a sad day man.

[@barcharlie]

Hey, i got a couple of those t shirts.

[@Luka23567]

All the online sites including Full Tilt would still be around today if the regime had not shut them down.

[@matthewbegin3462]

No doubt about it full tilt was awesome great mix of players. The tournaments were awesome!!!

[@the_mowron]

The govt. needed a villain to convince the public that online poker was a menace to society. Full Tilt was that villain. Maybe Lederer and Ferguson are genuine bad guys, and maybe they aren't. The same law that made online poker illegal in the USA also established the legality of Fanduel and Draftkings. Kinda funny how that works. The fact is: The corporations that run gambling in the USA were losing business to Full Tilt and Pokerstars. They got a law passed to outlaw those sites while also legalizing new sites that they would control. This was the real criminal behavior of black Friday, and the public never even noticed.

[@billrevette4501]

I was happy I owed full tilt 80$ when it went down😂😂

[@SlopjawJohnson-ii9kb]

How did you owe them? Were they giving loans?

[@billrevette4501]

@SlopjawJohnson-ii9kb yeah on weekends you could bye chips before they process the money from your bank

[@SlopjawJohnson-ii9kb]

@@billrevette4501 I see. I'm sure a ton of other people did the same thing.

[@marsrecordings]

Wow you showed them…

[@Johnnynix52]

The $ goes in front of the number

[@davidb6477]

lol @ “Studied to be a chess pro”. He was a 1950 ELO chess player-so incredibly far from becoming a professional.

[@ItIsYouAreNotYour]

Ain't bad though, Room for improvement obviously.

[@rolirolster]

Mike Postle wants that title.

[@ranchopatriot]

Has anything ever become of the Postle cheating scandal?

[@rolirolster]

@@ranchopatriot The fucking piece of shit got away with it. Unfortunately, the American legal system lets you pick a jury. So I'm guessing the defence picked non-poker players. The jury simply didn't understand what the odds of Postle getting that many wins, or never folding the best cards, were. Although, I'm pretty sure nobody wants to play with him anymore.

[@jeffsims3585]

Full Tilt got me for 16k- learned my lesson. No online Poker for me period.

[@PokerBoomYT]

Wow 16k?!? That’s brutal!

[@jamesadams8207]

@@PokerBoomYT People were reimbursed by submitting a claim thru the DOJ. It's brutal if people were too stupid to submit a claim.

[@travisjackway8158]

How can you say he's more despised than Russ??😅

[@Dawg99999]

Scammers used bots and cheated online games

[@hornetguy9063]

It’s crazy that it’s been over 12 years and he’s still pretty much stayed away from poker. Even his Wikipedia page basically has no activity since this debacle.

[@bobdole7292]

What is he gonna do. The entire poker community hates him. Would probably get harassed if he tried to play

[@royfokerpoker1802]

​@@bobdole7292 I'm sure he's playing online anonymously at the least

[@claytonbrown7120]

Give me $100 million, you’ll never see me playing poker with a bunch of degenerates again

[@MikeGervasi]

He stayed away from "visible" poker play. Besides he's comfortable I'm sure.

[@southrules]

@@MikeGervasi I wouldn’t be surprised if he hasn’t played a hand of poker in a decade

[@TalkingGIJoe]

gambling involves cheaters and yet folks are surprised and shocked when that is proven over and over...

[@HoJoXo]

People cheat at video games. For petty reasons. People are not shocked. They got robbed. They're angry. Like you would be if someone robbed you.

[@johnr5252]

What exactly happened? It wasn’t explained. They couldn’t pay players? What?

[@LecisDylan]

Hello how are you doing today

[@johnhoneck2973]

I was a FTP player in the US ...where's my "refund"??

[@PokerBoomYT]

Demand it!

[@johnob9275]

Same lol

[@Yawelcome213]

If you didn’t get your refund yet wtf have y’all been doing smh 😮

[@johnkoepke4807]

Same man......2700$ gone in the blink of eye.

[@JesuscanSetyouFreeSaved]

Pretty sure if you emailed them about it you could have got it poker stars paid everyone back who asked with they took over for full tilt

[@AnthonyMichaelAMguitar]

Been playing poker all my life. Never trusted online poker or anything online. Never put a dime into it, never will.

[@jjroman7658]

Didn't do a day in jail. People get heavier sentences stealing groceries.

[@jndriggs]

I had a few friends who got their refunds, but I never received mine. That whole situation was a shit show.

[@PokerBoomYT]

You never got yours??

[@jndriggs]

Nope. I inquired about it when my buddies mentioned they got their funds back, but nothing came out of it. I'm not worried about it since it's been so long, but I would assume others ran into the same issue. That's why I mentioned it.

[@pugdova1138]

@@jndriggs I also never received my refund. It was just a little over $1k, but it still irks me today.

[@BlinDefender]

I didn't get my refund either, but is was such a small amount I didn't press it. Think is was less than $200 US.

[@bribro6042]

I had about 250 in there and never got a refund either

[@jameskennedy7190]

I like watching these keep up the good work I’d like to hear more stories about old poker players like Amarillo Slim

[@PokerBoomYT]

Really appreciate it. Will def start going more old school soon

[@liudizzle]

Best thing that happened to me, online poker was the biggest time and money suck

[@NeroNORirl]

Watching Tom Dwan destroy Howard in high stakes poker made me really happy

[@PokerBoomYT]

Dwan is the man

[@jc4388]

There is only one.

[@jeffrogers3876]

There's something about Dwan that has never sat well with me. There were so many online players that were infamous online cash game and tournament players with little to zero live earnings that destroyed the pros for quite awhile, ironic they got their bankrolls and reps on the sites owned by the pro players

[@Johnny2Feathers]

Always felt he was slimy

[@dtny2la]

I remember this day so well. I was logged in to Full Tilt, but had left for the night to go play a live tournament. It wasn't normal for me to leave myself logged in when I wasn't playing, but I forgot to log out this time. While I was at the live tournament we got the news about what had went down. Thanks to my mistake, I was able to play on Full Tilt for 2 more days until my internet hiccuped and I got DC'd. lol.

[@Ver5587]

That’s funny

[@Gibraltariano]

So you continued playing knowing full well that you couldn’t withdraw anything you won? That doesn’t seem a good decision!

[@dtny2la]

@@Gibraltarianoyou're not aware all US players did get their money?

[@Gibraltariano]

@@dtny2la They didn’t. Those that did got it from pokerstars years later.

[@brucemoyers1006]

This didn't tell us what happened.

[@playinragz8183]

“How did he end up at rock bottom?” Are you crazy the guy stole 100 million + and NO JAIL.

[@matthewwagner4042]

He was my favorite player of them all in the 2000's. It's too bad... I'd like to see him playing again.

[@joegonzalez1941]

I believe he played in some wsop event last year, I could be wrong, I know Chris has been playing lately

[@gomez619]

It's interesting that he hasn't come back and started the whole scam all over again. This happens so many times where these people get caught, but just months later, they are back at it and no one does anything to stop it...

[@PokerBoomYT]

True. At least it seems like he’s fone

[@Jusincase]

@@PokerBoomYTI apologize but I speak English and I don’t understand the word “fone”?

[@silveringots]

​@@Jusincasedone

[@jamespohl-md2eq]

@@JusincaseMy god. Do you have any ability to think. Where do the f and d keys sit on the keyboard.

[@Rainy_Day12234]

He made enough to walk away.

[@salutations5749]

Just because Howard was good at Poker, doesnt mean hes good at being a business person. Im very peripheral regarding Poker and all of the characters, but i remember when this happened and not all of the details either. It should be said also that even though "the Internet" wasnt new, there were still lots of kinks to work out. Obviously there were other parties that instigated the formation of Full Tilt, and certainly used notoriety to garner support. It doesnt necessarily equate to malice on Howard's, just ignorance potentially. I mean, if talking heads behind the scenes were "running the show" and Howard, Chris, and others were none the wiser, then why should he get blasted forever about it. And i have no skin with him, Chris, or any of them. MC Hammer came to mind except that he just went broke and became a poster boy. A talent that wasnt good at business. Sports stars being broke 5 years after they retire, etc.. Not entirely equitable comparisons, but nonetheless...

[@miamivlad]

Agree. This video did not provide full details, but I agree with what you’re saying bc it’s very plausible.

[@jamiec6504]

I started playing poker somewhat seriously on the side in the early 2000’s however, I never trusted the online sites when they started popping up everywhere. I feel lucky to never have deposited money into them and feel for those that did. Admittedly, I much prefer live cash games vs online anyway so likely another reason I never played online. I remember when all hell broke loose and knew quite a few people that had money with them. I only remember one person who had a lot with them and to this day I don’t know if he ever got his money back.

[@PokerBoomYT]

Thanks for sharing

[@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677]

Missed out on loads of money from donks

[@jayrod9979]

I got a check for my Full Tilt balance. I was on my worst ever losing streak the weeks leading up to BF. The weeks leading up to Black Friday had suspicious play. I think the corrupt DOJ investigators had many accounts with super user accounts as they had access to the server before the shut down. Just like corrupt DEA guys stole bitcoins from Silk Road ..

[@justputdale1211]

You missed out on pockets AA only to hit a royal on the turn vs 10 10. Gotta love crazy hands on classic poker stars.. 😅 honestly dumb to see such insane hands fathom out

[@kevinmclain6741]

Yeah it's too bad I paid about $200,000 of my mortgage with poker winnings from 2005-2011.

[@ronniesapp4469]

All the full tilt scum should be in prison and this dudes sister should be there with him

[@parkerbohnn]

Howard always took too long I hate slow players.

[@truevanpencil5403]

No story will ever replicate the pure WTF IS GOING ON moment in poker like Isildur1s introduction to high stakes. The cheating scandals of full tilt and even the poker ripper account don’t really compare to throw or a guy appeared out of no where and played not only any high stakes pro, which few would do, but he wanted to play them at the same time 😂 Him crushing durrrr, who was the golden kid at the time, after he took all jungle man’s roll was mind blowing. I’ve never seen a player have so many players rail their games. He was a phenom that turned the game on its head and his story is like a movie plot.

[@MarcusHalverstram]

This is not fair to Isildur

[@truevanpencil5403]

@@wilhelmraspe1846 I mean he was no longer rolled to keep playing. He typed as much in the chat. After crushing him and Hasan not even the most over hyped poker nerds could predict just how epic the next few months would be 😂

[@user-yg1dg6xm2g]

The action taken by the "US Department of Justice" to freeze the funds of Canadians and individuals from other countries outside the USA, was unjustifiable. I continue to feel a deep sense of frustration and indignation about this incident.

[@andrewvoorhees4062]

Yea they tend to freeze assets when something illegal happens but don't feel bad they do that to americans as well.

[@stanleyquinn4847]

I’m from America and never got my money.

[@bradferguson4136]

​@stanleyquinn4847 the Department of Justice sent everyone affected an email, describing how to retrieve their funds. I received a little over $13,000 about 2 weeks later.

[@markanderson1886]

I got my money back after the settlement was finalized. Took a year or so.

[@TC-bt7bc]

​@@stanleyquinn4847get your money bro

[@mrcav9565]

They saw that Full Tilt would get all of the money on deposit from the rake and withdrawals would be covered by deposits. So, why not just give themselves some nice fat bonuses, except they didn't think about a US shutdown. Greedy and stupid.

[@cial67]

It was funny watching him on high stakes poker and how awful he was compared to the top players

[@jeffrogers3876]

Not much was said about Annie who also disappeared from the poker landscape, Though she wasn't mentioned another player who vanished though I don't recall if she was from the Full Tilt camp or PokerStars is Jen Harmon. I hadn't seen her in years until she was in one of the WSOP tourneys featured in Daniel's KZbin channel.Howard's style of play wasn't conducive to the High Stakes Poker or other shows that turned an 8-10 hr cash game with multiple buy backs sit n go into a couple 1/2 hour episodes. He was a grinder that folded a ton of hands, who maximized profit and minimized losses in those hands played and wore people down until they made mistakes. The complete opposite of Negreanu, who to his credit has turned his "likeable good natured everyday Joe" personality (along with elite skill level) into 2 decades of being one of the most important and successful players in the world

[@frankpaws]

I mean this is a common thing. FTX did the exact same for Billions.

[@3to5andglassy]

I was playing a tournament on Paradise Poker. I played quite a few there. One evening, while i was playing, i saw the entire table's whole cards. They were pixelated but legible. It only happened on that one hand. never played online again.

[@Michael-pf8we]

“Hole”

[@saifonlawrence2044]

Liquor in the front ,poker in the rear.

[@jamesw71]

I'm confused the narrator states that Lederer went silent from 2011 to 2016 when he gave an interview and took responsibility for what happened...but then the very last scene is the same image from the interview that was supposedly shown in 2016 but is dated 2012 on the screen? So was the interview given in 2012 or 2016?

[@roosduster]

I noticed that as well.

[@wilc.2095]

I like how the United States Department of Justice made sure all non-US players got their money back and allowed the US players, the ones that they’re required to serve and protect, to be screwed over and get nothing back. 🙄

[@johnnygolding8683]

US players did get their money back. You had to fill out the paper work and make sure your name matches the account name.

[@wilc.2095]

@@johnnygolding8683 I never got mine and neither did any of my friends.

[@66guns4]

I lost over 4K. Never got it back. If Lederer is truly sorry, he could pay me back.

[@PokerBoomYT]

Agreed!!

[@steveb9525]

his body is shaped like a pear

[@danielhenry6777]

sucks that all the full tilt people pretty much fucked up online poker for america

[@PokerBoomYT]

So true

[@Hotobu]

Did it really matter? Black Friday happened because the government decided to shut it down. I don't see how things would be different whether or not people got their money back.

[@darrenodonnell3771]

And Australia

[@MrBonified66]

It helped, but the agenda was always there. Casino owners like Adelson were bribing the government to shut down online poker and this just gave them the opportunity.

[@1zigget]

I know Howard and he's a really good person, but like everything the government touches it turns to crap. I lost money too.,My last $6,000.. I don't blame him at all or anyone else. Man up and move on.

[@GoPoundSalt]

2003, the FBI out of Boston and NY were already after Online Poker. They were trying to place informants within these small companies.

[@toynn_sugoi]

Never knew about this but I was a Poker Stars player back then. I really must have tuned-out after us USA players were banned. To Poker Stars credit they did all the right things to make us whole. I was participating in single table ladder tournament and had amassed 4 entries for the for the 4th round and 8 or so 3rd round - they paid those off based on the tournament pool. At the time I was shocked at how fair they were - no wonder Poker Stars is still going.

[@kingconcerto5860]

I wish they actually gave a shit about the state of the industry, but they're still one of the best sites.

[@icaanul]

@@kingconcerto5860 "One of the best sites" isn't saying much. It's all scripted garbage. Every hand feels like a highlight reel of the wsop. Coolers and suck-outs is the script for all of the sites. It's nothing like real poker.

[@CockMcBallsddd]

Same here. . .they actually paid off a number of things I had going when the ban came down. I was fuckin shocked.

[@malcolmdale]

I used to play stud on Full Tilt but fortunately I got out before the crash.

[@williammoore9173]

Howard is still playing at the tables in New York underground

[@falcon176]

i remember back when this was happening any time he showed up in a video or an article the comments were just "where's my fucking money howard" or something to that effect

[@kassadyne3602]

As a up & coming poker player myself this the shit that really makes a player don't want to play, &&& I play online definitely ready for the table but I really really don't want to beat nobody up with bs like this

[@markmiller6423]

I LOVED that software! Im not sure if howard can ever be forgiven

[@2beJT]

I got his instructional DVD back in the day haha. Glad I got it from the used game/movie/music store.

[@andyrusellthunderbrook4651]

Crazy this years i played no Poker whats Happens there ? Site was rigged they stole the Players the Money or how did that Happen ? The Player gets refunded ?

[@hetzer7366]

Did you fail English in school? I am thinking so

[@andyrusellthunderbrook4651]

@@hetzer7366 i think you must be very Bad at this maybe Go in 1 class again child 😈👹😆😆😆

[@oletramekaf5603]

Why is the volume in this video so low?

[@niallmcgregor3979]

The money that wasn’t refunded went on crypto!

[@volvoplz9209]

It's 2023 and I still can't play on Full Tilt Poker. 😢

[@blaineturner4056]

Full Tilt was fixed ! Sat a bot at tables to steal chips ! Flopped quad 10 in a cash game , guy goes runner runner gutter gutter straight flush and I was 3 betting every card ! The odds are astronomical! Almost threw my monitor out the window ! $800.00 cash pot

[@irishock]

Chris Ferguson didn't do anything wrong imo, he didn't overlook the operations. Its a shame he's been blackballed because he's one of the GOATs

[@Gibraltariano]

He exercised zero corporate governance and control, and took players’ money for himself and his friends. Great player yes. “Did nothing wrong,” absolutely not.

[@tarawaukeri8928]

I remember the 1500player freerolls. The red lettered professionals and watching Gus on multiple tables.

[@nodythova8543]

Tom, patch up that blue wall. I keep trying to rub the dirt off my screen every week hahaha

[@dennispersinger4120]

Why in the world would they need to do this. The greed....geeze

[@seansaville5664]

Definitly a lot easier to win then

[@PokerBoomYT]

Things have changed...

[@heimstaden4588]

One guy had like 500k bankroll at FT so shortly after the site went down and he could not get a dollar out he killed him self. Very sad.

[@PokerBoomYT]

Is that true?

[@Untamedlove]

Sad Story

[@exitscreaming4637]

@@PokerBoomYT Good question. I see some people repeating that. I did searches and could find nothing. Matt “ADZ124” Marafioti was a poker pro who played on Full Tilt , he committed suicide in 2021 but there's no mention of any connection or losing 500k .

[@adamirishconundrum851]

Not sad but hilarious

[@heimstaden4588]

@@PokerBoomYT its true google it, I forgot hes name.

[@kenp3L]

The continual burnout effects make this hard to watch.

[@coldbloodedkiz]

LEDERER AND ANNIE....2 SLIMEBALLS

[@nutsaboutdance]

Why is Anne hated ?

[@mikebordeaux8218]

Annie Pukes scamming took place on Ultimate Bet. Cheaters

[@markanderson1886]

Agree 100%

[@jasonskindell9578]

​@nutsaboutdance she's an absolute c'nt. Has a rule that if she's out of the hand she can look at your cards if she's sitting next to you. Self entitled and a hypocryte.

[@JannieMette]

@@nutsaboutdanceBecause she’s a two faced bully, and she loves to cheat. Hold your cards close if sitting next to her.

[@craigerc713]

Good to hear he admitted his wrong at the end.

[@raymondhernandez]

Where did all the money go? Why isn’t he in jail? This seems like an incomplete story.

[@ThatsMyBully]

We have a two tiered justice system ,,, rich and influential people don’t go to jail and if they see ANY jail time , it’s a severely reduced sentence

[@andyrusellthunderbrook4651]

​@@ThatsMyBullyyeah thats it not only in us Off course Money Talks thats what all about is no big surprise as you see by every corrupt politican etc

[@hetzer7366]

​@@ThatsMyBully sounds like the answer of a poor guy😅😅😅

[@infusionscap]

​@@hetzer7366 Sounds like just paying attention to me.

[@Mikeyjoefit]

Some of these comments are funny. All US players (after years of waiting), were able to make a claim with the DOJ (hence the long delay) and get a full refund of their entire account balance. Thank you Pokerstars! Losing my entire bankroll would of hurt badly.

[@heimstaden4588]

A guy had whole bankroll 500k at the site. Ended up killing him self.

[@climbon3157]

You can say ALL US players got a refund, but I never got mine, as well as plenty of others.

[@jamesadams8207]

@@climbon3157 There was a window that you could submit your claim with the DOJ. It took a while, but all legitimate claims were paid.

[@reds26th]

By the time refunds were offered I'd already forgotten how much I had, my account info and any passwords I had. I would say I probably lost around 4k but by the time they talked about refunds my entire life had already changed.

[@jamesadams8207]

@@reds26th The disbursement company had all of your account amounts and info. You just give them your name and email and they sent you the amount you were owed.

[@dwitt4574]

WOW! I know nothing about this. I can't even imagine losing friends, $, respect, and doing the thing I love just because I tried to get more $

[@skl5532]

Money is fungible - most businesses are “ponzi schemes” then as new customers always pay off old dues. It’s when the music stops that any business goes belly up!

[@cowardlederer1]

Scam artist is a stretch. I’d like to think that I was bluffing.

[@PokerBoomYT]

Good to see you here again

[@gregwaisso6838]

This video praises Lederer way more than it criticizes him, calling him an "Icon" many times.

[@nncoco]

I only lost a couple of tournament tokens. That place always seemed rigged to me.

[@mikebordeaux8218]

Him and his sister are both scammers and thieves in my opinion. Anytime I see either one I let them know my thoughts.

[@mikew742]

He is a crook.

[@LTDan-hu5fq]

This game is the same for all of them!!! He just got CAUGHT!!!

[@cgreatthings5589]

Way to go on smashing a viral vid of this magnitude. Cool to see your channel growing well!

[@PokerBoomYT]

Thank you! Appreciate you being here

[@zone07]

All I know is that his DVD tutorial has made me a lot of money.

[@kristoffslovijk666]

Full Tilt will forever have $2200 of mine.

[@murphaa9564]

Took me years to get my money back from FT that was frozen on there….I had my bounced check saved from them and if I didn’t I never would have gotten paid…. Pieces of shit ruined it for all of us in the USA….make it legal again in NY!!!!

[@justme-ti1rh]

I played on online alot then but i still think people will always find ways to cheat.

[@pokernightoutnyc]

CLIMB MOUNTAINS not so the world can see you, but so you can see the world.

[@chewiebacka4377]

And this is just another reason why I don't play for real money online.

[@ChrisM-wv4gs]

Him and his sister are both bad humanbeings

[@mr_free_soul4]

Where is too much money sure corruption exists!

[@oibender]

Thank Preet Bharara for killing US online poker.

[@SulphuricAcidForTheSouL]

if he tattoos the word scumbag on his forehead i will forgive him

[@patobantan420]

I got my refund. I had maybe $1500 in my account. My brother in law had over 10K and he onky got a fraction of that

[@PokerBoomYT]

You’re lucky you got your refund!

[@Rainy_Day12234]

There are many scams that gamblers do to gain an edge…other players will act together to knock out new players, etc

[@SuperMan-g8g]

I though joe Stapleton was the most hated man in poker? 😮

[@pacificeric36]

Saw his feud with Daniel N., showed his pettiness.

[@trickymagic4808]

Human garbage sums it up good

[@moonkim3873]

Got my refund from AP

[@deemo5245]

Thought his nickname was ok for the old days, but not after moneymaker lucked out to the win. It was obvious he wasn’t a Dr