How to adjust your sink rate and depth when Euro-nymphing

[@housesOTR]

You, sir, are a true educator. I know very little about this aspect of fly fishing, but after easygoing your video, I have a true understanding of what I need to do. Very logical without extraneous material.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thanks very much for the feedback. I'm glad the video was helpful.

[@markusviol200]

I guess my ressource no.1 these days over here on KZbin ✌️ Thanks Devin, great summary.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thank you Markus

[@akintomeatloaf]

Loved the video! I'd love to see your fly boxes and why and how you've organized them.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

I’ll look at doing one down the road. You got a glimpse of it in this video and in my fishing pack video. They are organized by category first and then in rows by weight.

[@gumboflats8371]

Switching to your microleader set up was a real eye opener. Great stuff here.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Glad you've enjoyed the difference. Happy fishing.

[@dalesheehan9404]

Love the news flash! Lot of good info and always a lot to think about approaching a piece of water. Thanks for putting out these videos!

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thanks Dale!

[@alexargyros7186]

Another wonderful video. I can't wait to hear your thoughts about "floating the sighter."

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

It will probably be late winter or spring for that video. I’ve been working a lot on floated sighter techniques lately so hopefully it will be a good one.

[@alexargyros7186]

@@tacticalflyfisher3817 I have no doubt that it will be very interesting and instructional.

[@jacarandapark]

I’m very new in competitions,l live in New Zealand and I have all your videos and book and they really help me a lot ,thank you.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Glad you've enjoyed the videos. Good luck in your NZ competitions.

[@awaken77]

Great explanation, as usually

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thanks! Happy fishing this year.

[@TJRainbowWarrior]

Thanks so much for the info Devin. I got to try Euronymphing for the first time this week and I had such a great time! I caught my PB brown! I bought your videos with Lance and I have been soaking up all the info that I can. I realize that I was intuitively trying the things you mention in this video based on what I learned before I went out. And guess what…IT WORKS! Please keep putting out the great content!!!

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Happy fishing out there!

[@RhysFishes]

Great advice Devin!

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thank you Rhys! If only I could make videos as good looking as yours.

[@georgefitzhugh6455]

Thanks for sharing

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thanks George

[@simonucaconmosca]

Your videos are pure gold. I noticed that you carry a lot with you (chestpack / hip pack, sling pack / hip pack). Have you ever think about how much equipment you carry and how it afects your fishing? Have you tried being fishing with just the chestpack? Regards, and have a good one

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Glad you like the videos. I carry the hip pack to take a lot of the weight. I have an old shoulder injury that makes my left shoulder scream if I just have a chest pack but the hip pack supports the back of the chest pack and keeps it manageable.

[@PeachyFlyFishing]

Great video, thanks Devin!

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@robinred1851]

Very useful this video for everybody who's starting with this way of Nymphing. Maybe you could also make a video about the use, or maybe not use, of the normal flyline (WF/DT) . Or the special Čech Nymphing flyline (the one which is all the way thrue 0.6-0.7 mm). Or no flyline at all, just backing and 50-60 metres 10 pound monofilament (which is how I've set up my reel). Greetings and tight lines 🎣 from the Čech Republic 🇨🇿.

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Very informative thanks

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thanks for watching

[@philipnaro3040]

Great video Devin!

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thanks!

[@tonysobina8390]

Great video and explanation of the different techniques employed to get to the depth you seek! If a person can remember these on the stream it should be a great help!

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

You can always bring a note card until it becomes second nature.

[@stephencifka4629]

Great info, clearly explained. Great teaching and advocacy! Thanks! Interestingly, much of this applies to sinking a swung fly.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thanks Stephen

[@djTorchLive]

Immensely helpful! I never thought much about sighter angle or the tuck cast. By your instruction I realize, I was "too deep". I was "ticking" way too early and before the target lie as you put it. Now I just gotta figure out how NOT to snap 7x when I set the hook lol.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

It took me a long time to handle light tippet. The secret for me has been to make all of my hook sets wrist based so there’s no mass or large muscle groups behind them.

[@djTorchLive]

@@tacticalflyfisher3817 Thank you, I will definitely work on this. My remedy was to simply stick with 6x instead but I also found myself catch less fish in certain situations. One being attempting to target deep pockets in fast moving water where I only have a few feet of "safe water" to get my fly down into what you call the "target lie". What I've realized is 6x a A LOT thicker than 7x. There seems to be a bigger jump between the two than there is for let's say 5x to 6x. Rio release new tippet that was supposed to be more durable for it's diameter but I think I'm going back to Umpqua that is less supple but seems to be a little stronger. I'd try 6.5x but what companies carry that? I know trouthunter does.

[@scottnock5241]

Nice work Devin..

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thanks Scott

[@scottnock5241]

@@tacticalflyfisher3817 Devin, How long would you say until you get those fulling mill Max red fly boxes in? Thanks

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

@@scottnock5241 maybe a week

[@kramollag]

Thank you, change the nymph weight is last. Thanks again

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Happy fishing Mark

[@MrTCAllen77]

Great info. I like to tie my hackle of dubbing flies with a tungsten bead head with just a little lead and without lead, so I can change depth just in case the fish are picky that day and only will hit certain patterns. Never thought about tippet/leader diameter. I had a "duh" moment. Lol

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@scottmacdonald9269]

Great video Devin. The bugs at the 10:40 mark are those from about a size 18 to a 14 or bigger? great boxes and thanks again for great info to share with clients.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Scott, there aren’t any flies at that time stamp so I’m not sure which ones you’re referring too. Most of my bugs are 14 to 20 with a few bigger ones for really heavy water.

[@chukolna]

Just awesome video! Thank you so much. I've aways wondered if using spit shot someowhere on the rig is also a viable option?

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

You can always add a split shot if you want. I generally avoid it myself because I want direct contact to my flies for strike detection instead of contact to a split shot.

[@diddylegokongkid1134]

Devin. Great video. Could you explain some specific situations where l would purposely want a slower sink rate? I have always heard get the flies down as fast as possible then adjust to the zone if needed.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Proper sink rate can be very important to avoid getting under fish in shallow water and to avoid your fly dropping like a rock and looking completely unnatural to the trout. Here are a few videos and articles that might help explain further. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3exZ3yJjtxjndEsi=VItbRyjpP842egNx tacticalflyfisher.com/blogs/default-blog/blogprecise-weight-adjustments-lead-to-proper-sink-rate-and-more-fish

[@diddylegokongkid1134]

@@tacticalflyfisher3817 thanks for clarifying. Great! I see now how this would help pick off trout better at the top of the drift👍

[@franciscojaviergonzalez3570]

Excelente. Feliz año nuevo.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Thank you! Happy New Year to you as well!

[@benfranks6375]

Great help! Thanks! Cheers

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Glad it helped!

[@jacarandapark]

Devin,can you used micro leader in competitions and what will be your recommendation of that leader.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Yes, you can use a micro leader. Here is a video I did on the micro leader I use. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYXGe5aGgt51oc0

[@Eric-fs3oy]

Thanks for the videos, they along with the Modern Nymphing have really shortend the learning curve. When the conditions dictate a slightly longer tippet do you add to the existing tippet, or tie on an entirely new tippet?

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

You can do either. It depends on how much time I have, what tippet size I’m working with, and what condition the tippet I’m using is in.

[@joemalone5819]

When using a micro leader, do you blood knot the 3x or 4x directly to a mono core line, or do you use a small transition section of say 10 lb maxima?

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

I use a braid core line myself so I can make a micro loop from the core (see a previous video I did). If you have a mono core, I would suggest stripping the coating and tying the mono core to a tippet ring. Then you can tie the micro leader to the ring.

[@Exobotonist]

So many variables to think about! What is the most common way that you adjust your fly depth out of these or is this more of a "it depends" answer? Thanks for the excellent information!!!

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

It does depend a lot but I normally play with casting angles and drift lengths first and then with the variables that require rig changes if the changes I make aren’t enough.

[@Exobotonist]

@@tacticalflyfisher3817 this helps! Look forward to watching more of your videos! Thanks again!!!

[@jimcastillo8950]

Hello, do you at all use split shot to help sink your flies? Thanks ....great video.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Jim, no. I only use tungsten beads.

[@robinred1851]

The use of a splitshot to get deeper, or faster to a required depth, is not advisable. Just because it has a horrible tendency to tangle your tippet or in worst case your whole leader. To get deeper and faster to a certain depth just take heavier flies. Like shown in this video it's all a matter of trial and error and learning what to do. I always say, if I can do it, everybody else can. Greetings and tight lines 🎣 from the Čech Republic 🇨🇿.

[@chriscrumbley9219]

Great Video! After watching this and both the euronymphing videos you talk about changing tippet length. My question is if you need longer tippet say for a deep pool would you just take off your whole tippet rig and the start all over or might you add tippet to the current tippet set up and if so how would you do that? Also I. Relation to that, if you wanted to add a third fly to a two fly rig would you just add that to the point flys eye or make a completely new three fly tippet rig from scratch? Sorry for the lengthy questions but I’ve watched the two modern nymphing videos twice and didn’t see an explanation. Thx!!

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Chris, the best way to swap back and forth is with rigging foams. I keep several rigging foams in my pack that I can use to go between 2 and 3 fly rigs, streamer, nymph, and dry dropper rigs, etc. That way you can swap with just one knot. Regarding rigging, I always fish flies on dropper tags. Hookup rates and drift qualities are better on a tag. If you need to add tippet, you can start over or you can just add a section of tippet at the ring and blood knot it to the rig you already have.

[@chriscrumbley9219]

@@tacticalflyfisher3817 Thanks. That is all very helpful. Just bought your book looking forward to reading it!

[@ryantherock7664]

When fishing a run,and you need an extra foot of depth,can you submerge the sighter a foot,or should you only submerge the tippet section of your leader.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

Given that your sighter is usually thicker than the tippet, I recommend not submerging it as it catches more currently and speeds up your drift. The exception is when it is windy and submerging the sighter will hold the leader in place a bit more under gusty conditions.

[@ryantherock7664]

@@tacticalflyfisher3817 thank you

[@sgrahammd]

Do you ever use a coiled "slinky-style" sighter?

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

No. I don't like the way they rip off the water. If I need the extra flotation I just go to a dry fly on my euro leader. Some people like them though so there's no reason not to try them and form your own opinion.

[@willduckworth4789]

Great thanks but there is also mono v fluorocarbon tippet.

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

The difference in sink rate between nylon and fluoro is pretty negligible when you start factoring in weighted flies. Go do a bathtub experiment and you’ll see that pretty quickly. They are both monofilament materials by the way.

[@willduckworth4789]

@@tacticalflyfisher3817 thanks!

[@djTorchLive]

I guess I’m early lol 😆

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

It’s scheduled for Tuesday morning.

[@patrickmcphee770]

Good stuff here, You should be ashamed of that selection of mop flies! Lol

[@tacticalflyfisher3817]

I used to be ashamed of certain flies...until I got my butt kicked by other anglers using them. Suddenly my "principles" seem to shift a bit. :)