How To Align The Chapter Ring On A Seiko SKX007 - Watch and Learn #46

[@shmendrik213]

Can the movement be taken out with the chapter ring glued to the dial? Thanks for the video!

[@islandwatch]

Great question, and I didn't say it. You can still remove it, as we didn't use much glue and it's removable. BUT, really, the glue should just be applied to the side of the chapter ring so the movement doesn't stick to it. My sloppiness, though, had the glue flowing around.

[@BernardManansala]

No

[@jeffreyalbarandorivera8595]

A big NO.

[@Johnydanerous]

My chapter ring is misaligned and after seeing the great tutorial video my chapter ring WILL stay misaligned ... :) thank you !

[@islandwatch]

LOLOLOL

[@nickkendall3764]

John McKlane good for you the actual problem is the chapter ring printing not alignment being a machanical watch the second hand dosnt need to hit markers so no problem .enjoy you watch and sont get so boged down with tiny details if that really dose bother people they should buy from a shop in person so they can inspect before buying or spend more money on a better quality controled watch

[@SirStamford27]

lol lol The same ... this great video has actually made me appreciate the chapter ring more, and i'm now fine with it being slightly out. Thanks Mark.

[@zabrikvid]

Lol, me too... Nothing's perfect

[@christianjoos7011]

You got the K. Am i right? Those are the ones w/ quality control issues

[@TheFlyrodder68]

This is another reason why LIW is my first choice for online watch shopping. Marc takes the time to inform his customers and that will get my loyalty. Great job Marc! Thumbs up!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks so much, glad you liked it.

[@kevincorkery6292]

Just bought an ISL 28. Better movement and quality all around. Glad I never bought an SKX.

[@SimpleMan688]

Thanks for all you do. I was able to complete the entire procedure with my Letherman. Probably pretty barbaric by horology standards, but that's why I love my skx. It can handle primitive surgery. Couldn't have done it without ya.

[@matt4398]

Send this video to the seiko manufacturers, its their job

[@islandwatch]

Eh, it's a tradeoff we pay for mass production

[@BarnOwl61]

Mark , i respect you a lot, but i'am sorry, i don't agree. I own a much cheaper "Pulsar" Solar quartz, it hits the markers spot on. Pulsar is owned by Seiko as you know. That watch is most definitely not hand build! That means it can be done properly. I am sorry, i think an Orient Ray II is a much better choice. It takes care of all the problems of the SKX models at the same pricepoint.

[@maxpayneau]

@@BarnOwl61 Accually i have Orient Ray II and the day is not align property in the date window. Sometimes is little to low and little on the top so I assume that the printing is not precise it should be.

[@JETBLACKPRIEST]

@@BarnOwl61 yeah but it doesn't have that bezel that's flush with the glass, that's my favourite thing about it, every other dive watch I've seen has a chamfered/angled bezel

[@JETBLACKPRIEST]

@Andy Laird does the coin bezel flatten it out? I'd love to see it once it's done

[@canonyeo4286]

Thanks, Mark. You are one of the very few people who really know about watches. I like what you said about not expecting too much on mass production products. Even if we pay for a luxury watch, there will always be something to pick on, if we are picky. I enjoy my few hundred dollar Seiko divers as much as I enjoy my Patek, Daytona, etc that cost tens of thousands. The truth is that the pastures are not as green on the other side as what people normally think.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you, very well said.

[@canonyeo4286]

Mark, I have the new Superlative Hulk and Batman. Both the alignments are off a bit too. And, if you put these guys next to the Tuna, Sumo, or Monster, at night, and if you have always thought that expensive is better, you will be disappointed. Today my wife is wearing the Hulk, and I, the SKX. When you have seen the world a bit, your mind would be broader in acceptance of imperfection. Enjoy life and be happy.

[@ducttaperulestheworl]

I finally got my seiko and was up for modding because of this particular flaw. Thank you kind sir for this video! I'll be trimming and gluing my chapter ring once my crystal press is here

[@rons7555]

Thanks for this video, my chapter ring is also misaligned. I was thanking there was something wrong with the dial. But your video cleared the misconception.

[@coverupify]

Thank you very much for this walkthrough. I bought the tools and did the same repair on my Sea Urchin SNZF15 without any issues, except that the chapter ring doesn't plop out along with the crystal like yours did with the SKX - I had to remove the gasket holding the crystal first. The watch is now so much more beautiful with everything lined up and I am extremely happy with the results.

[@TheWayofGrace89]

Although I would never undertake something like this myself, vids of this kind are absolutely fascinating. Thanks so much, Mark. You are a legend. Haha.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you Taylor. I've got lots of watches to mess up :)

[@misternobody4644]

Just saw a 5 minute ad, I didn't skip it. Keep up the good work.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for that!

[@jkidesto714]

Finally, a watch and learn. Take easy, Marc.

[@islandwatch]

Has it been that long?!

[@armandojuan64]

I wouldn't mess with the watch . I would leave it the way it is although if you go and buy the watch from a store , you could check all those minor details previous to your purchase . Your videos , awesome , as usual .... relaxing , cool and very educative watchwise . I really enjoy them .

[@islandwatch]

Very true; thanks for watching!

[@JackdeRipskaya]

Really wish this video came out a few days ago. I literally JUST modded my SKX and the aftermarket chapter ring installation was SUCH a PITA. Had I seen this, I would have been much more prepared.

[@islandwatch]

You'll know for next time :)

[@likerussel]

After viewing this detailed video ... I am now planning to bring to the watch repair my New Seiko Prospex 3rd Philippine Limited Eagle Edition SPB345J1 to fix the misalligned chapter ring.

[@JASONvsBOSCO]

This was very informative and interesting to watch. If when I get mine, it isn’t aligned and bothering me, I would leave it in the hands of a pro like you to resolve. Thanks for the video!

[@johnkennedy9078]

Great thx... didn't even realize my Monster chapter ring was misaligned until I watched this vid 😫 lol

[@SirBeauJangles]

You're a dedicated man, Marc. Thanks for these terrific illustrative vids!

[@itsalgud1459]

Thanks, Mark, for a very informative video. I would never attempt this as I have neither the tools nor the skills to do this effectively. (I opened up my iPhone a couple of years ago to replace the battery. I had a little kit and a detailed video with instructions. I ended up taking it to a shop to get it put back together again. 😩 thankfully, the guy didn’t charge me for it.) Still, it’s good to know what’s involved in case you had to take it to a watch repair shop. I know that a local watch repair man here in Denver charges $500 just to open the case!

[@MegaChuck345]

To be honest, it looks great without the chapter ring. Clean!

[@raimi21888]

That Arabic day looks stunning.

[@K_man217]

Excellent video mark, thank you so much for sharing! Just finished up a mod on my SRPD using this video!

[@erwinmanzano7596]

Thanks for the demonstration Bro. I have this problem with my Citizen divers automatic. If it is easy to fly from the Philippines then I would have it serviced to your expertise. You are a nice and excellent guy. Keep reviewing.

[@Septra777]

FINALLY someone posted how to fix it! Thanks Marc you're the best!

[@islandwatch]

Yeah, can't believe it hasn't been done!

[@YarraMates]

Thanks so much for this video. I was just struggling to install a new chapter ring because it had some play under the crystal. This explained everything. Cheers.

[@brenguy333]

Thank you for this information Marc! I wish the manufacturing printing process was better but then again this is a budget watch. Great inspection and details explained in this video. Clears up a lot!

[@seanvanginkel]

It's quite an hustle to do this all and need along all this tools. Most disappointing is after all and all still not perfectly aligned.

[@chippatton9614]

Mark thank you this vid was very helpful for me i appreciate it.

[@wick-trimmer1980]

Great Video Mark. Personally I enjoy these do it yourself videos and has inspired me to do my owe minor service and mods. Thanks for taking the time.

[@islandwatch]

Great to hear that, good luck in your endeavors!

[@azymasger9088]

Awesome video🎉. My Seiko is really old and for some reason the whole dial is misaligned. Where the 12 is on 11 position. Any advise how I can do it myself because I am on a remote island.

[@vwlukas]

Thanks for a great tutorial Marc. Thanks to you I've fixed the alignment on my 009, now it's perfect :) I was lucky and there was a little play on the chapter ring hence it wasn't necessary to remove the crystal in my case :)

[@islandwatch]

Nice work!!!!

[@toplobster]

Hi Marc, you as someone who can probably call someone from SEIKO Assembly. This is a freaking easy thing to fix. They have to do the fix on the 3d file ONCE, and every SKX or Turtle or whatever that uses this part, is alligned . So i dont agree, that we pay fro mass production. This is something, that people notice a lot on these watches. And you can get watches, that are in the same price range without these issues. So it is not a price segment thing

[@MarcraM82]

Thanks for this Mark great video as always.. Just a question, my chapter ring slides left and right, sometimes in perfect alignment. Could I just take the caseback and movement off then apply glue to the notch area once chapter ring aligned, therefore not needing to remove the crystal and chapter ring completely??

[@christianjoos7011]

My SKX007J1 has a perfectly aligned chapter ring. Guess i got lucky. I was concerned abt this issue, but my brand new MADE IN JAPAN watch is perfectly centered, its soo damn nice! My advice is to get the J, not the K. Youll be much more proud to wear this iconic watch

[@ajbcruz]

I suppose white glue might work, too? Anyway, you are right about Seiko QC. I received a SNZG15 with the hands misaligned -- 6:00 did not look like 6:00 at all; the hour hand was not pointing straight at the 6. I just got a watchmaker to fix it for about $7, but still very annoying. Thanks, Marc!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for sharing.

[@kylestewart4444]

Great consumer advice. How to correct the glaring and frankly embarrassing quality control issues in your Seiko watch.

[@timbooth3020]

Great instructions!

[@robs.8629]

What about using small pieces of double sided tape normally used to secure the bezel insert?

[@bigshoe84ify]

If I need to do this I may try just trimming off a small piece of the nub on the chapter ring to allow it to turn a little farther in the direction it needs to go.

[@jamesdoherty2614]

Just a thought really, did you clean that glue up straight away or leave it for a short while? Interesting video, thank you for sharing.

[@tedats]

I managed this no problem! (In my dreams) Thanks!

[@blackhawk2475]

Very informative video. Is there a way or place to send the 007 to replace water proof certification after replacing the crystal? Thanx

[@watchrolling]

LIW teaching for free. Thanks Marc! ❤‍🔥

[@rhino202]

Now I need a crystal press. Great video!! Thank you

[@Biblicalgiants]

Het Mark! My diver is a whole minute mark off almost. If I send my Seiko 7007 7000 SS to you could you fix it? Great video! Thank you!

[@jazzman5598]

Hi Marc! Dumb question but it’s driving me bats. What is the difference between the Chapter Ring and the “Rehaute”? This is the BEST series on YT imho. Thanks!

[@neilus0]

great video Marc thanks. I have a 009 Japan model and mine is perfect, i wonder if this is more of an issue with Korean models? Also whenever I wear my SKX i marvel at the case design. The curves, case shape with offset crown and finish is really quite unique, especially considering the price.

[@islandwatch]

No, I see it on J and K models alike (note that K does not stand for Korea; bad misconception).

[@artmcteagle]

Great video, you have a lot of technical skills and knowledge! Just a thought, it seems to me you could file the nib down on one side, if the misalignment is minor. Also, it maybe easier to put the glue on the case itself,or only in the notch, before finally fitting the chapter ring?

[@propblast82nd]

You have nerves of steel Marc ! : )

[@paulhite7851]

Marc, I love this watch and learn series. I would be afraid to try this stuff on a Seiko, but maybe I will buy a few junk watches and try some of this. No great loss if I screw up a ten dollar watch.

[@islandwatch]

Very true.

[@Pobrais]

Mark, you're a star. Cheers buddy.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@MrTeopantli]

"...if you catch it with the die you will crack it very easily..." listen to Max, children. he speaks the truth...take it from someone who cracked the chapter ring and had to buy a new one. great video max.

[@islandwatch]

Yup, that's the way it goes down.

[@triples4good]

Thanks Marc. Great video and series.

[@islandwatch]

Appreciate it Steve.

[@davidj180]

Can the chapter ring be placed without taking the crystal off? From the back? TIA

[@mikemantho9426]

Great video Mark. Love, love my SKX-009 on the Strapcode Super Jubilee! Thanks for that.

[@islandwatch]

You are welcome!

[@dsi76]

I have an SKX013 with a misaligned chapter ring and a spare SKX013 with a perfectly aligned chapter ring. What’s the best possible way to use the spare watch as a donor? Shall I simply swap the chapter ring, or will it require swapping both the dial/movement and chapter ring?

[@patrolmanmalik3121]

Sir you mess up your dial.

[@mattdixon6394]

Hi Mark, I am swapping the chapter ring on my 013. I cant get it to stay in the position where i place it once i place the movement in. Can you please provide some guidance or relase a dewsad video on this?

[@AfflictedWavez]

Great to see another watch and learn Marc!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks, enjoy watching it!

[@dbzamora]

Won't the glue cloud the crystal as most glues are prone to do unless they are allowed to dry at least a day? By the way, great video as usual. Thanks Marc!

[@walleman3542]

Great video! But is there any way to pop the crystal without that tool?

[@stevepodraza6363]

I have a new tuna sbbn031 with a misaligned chapter ring. It’s a bummer on a$1100 seiko. Still love the watch more than any other Can this be fixed ?

[@otto59]

In my skx013 the chapter ring just drops out of the case when you remove the movement. Is this normal?

[@ryanmccoy4486]

I am sold on the "turtle". Looking around the area, I have only seen 2 srp777 watches at local shops, both have misaligned chapter rings. I'm having one of the shops get another from his supplier to see if it has better alignment. If it is misaligned....am I out of luck? Any chance that the "new" watch will be prefect?

[@jerrygundecker743]

I really enjoyed watching this, it reinforced what I learned in a couple of your previous- thnx.

[@islandwatch]

Great, thank you!

[@wawangpulo]

i have a ceramic bezel insert. im afraid i might crack it if i remove the crystal. is it ok to remove the bezel then remove the crystal?

[@TruSaiyan]

I assume this would void the warranty though, and it would make me think will it still be as waterproof? It's a total disgrace how so many of these models have misaligned chapter rings, they should not pass QC without aligning! How Seiko can sell these without addressing this issue is shocking. great vid for those who want to try it though!

[@felipeavila4487]

How do you get it back to iso standards?

[@ghazaliyaakob]

my seiko5 has has misaligned hour and minute's hand as well..Seiko mass production carelessness!

[@jonirwin7316]

Great vid Marc, thanks. Keep 'em comming!

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!!!

[@N3VURMYND]

Hi Mark, was just wondering, do you offer this as a service? I've recently purchased an SRPD71 at a really good price and immediately noticed the ring misalignment upon opening. Also, I've noticed the hour hand is a bit off and is very noticeable when on exact hours. Especially 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock. Any advice?

[@fakenewsisthenews3542]

Hi Mark. Any idea if the chapter rings on the 007/09 are the same on other Seiko? SNE499? Tuna?

[@fakenewsisthenews3542]

I want to replace the chapter ring on an SNE499 solar tuna.

[@davidrosenblum2178]

Thank you for this, Marc! I've been pretty lucky with my Seikos. Of all of them only my SRP605 is noticeably misaligned. So this would work with that? After watching this, I wondered...would you consider offering this as a service to watch owners? The reason I ask is that in order to do this it appears we would have to source all the tools you made use of. For me I'd rather pay you to do this and save myself the expense. Additionally, it would be a logical time to upgrade the crystal to sapphire which you could bundle with the service at an upsell.

[@0DAE0]

i have the skx011j , seems like the chapter ring moves a little side to side , at one moment it`s perfectly aligned then another moment slightly misaligned . Im new into watches so my question is i dont care about the misalignment , but is this something i need to get fixed ?

[@Slipsch]

@LongIslandWatch where did you get that case back wrench? It's black and cool!!

[@christianrussell9900]

About time! Thanks!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed.

[@craigpratt6192]

You stop the movement with your gloved thumb. Is that ok? Genuine question about a great video.

[@thenitpicker911]

You dont need to file off the notch I think. Just file off a little bit on the left is fine. Then you still have something to have for lining up the ring

[@tonynikon]

Hi, The glue is cured in 30 minutes but I was worried if the fumes from the glue may spoil the crystal or chapter ring. I did a lot of plastic models as a kid and you can not use the same glue that you use for aplastic model. If you are working with a airplane canopy or car windshield, you need to use a very different kind of glue that has no petrol fumes because it spoils the transparent piece of plastic permanently. Do I have to be careful with the glue that you are using in this video? By the way, you didn’t mentioned the silicon sealer. By any chance a single drop of the silicon may jump out of the casket if you leave the crystal for the final assembly?

[@bluejay4069]

Hello Mark! I was wondering if there is any way to align a bezel? Thanks

[@k.g.l3336]

Excellent video very informative, could you please do a video on how to repair or insert a click ball for a Seiko skx007 or even a alternative solution to get the bezel working properly

[@l75rd83]

Yeah, I think I’ll just keep it as it is :)

[@artswri]

Great stuff thanks

[@denisticic5150]

Hi Mark, what is the name of the green goo witch You used?

[@islandwatch]

The glue? GS Hypo Cement. Ohhhh, the clay type stuff? That's Rodico putty.

[@denisticic5150]

Thank You !

[@torbensvensson2093]

Very good, Mark!!👌🏻👌🏻✨

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!!!

[@eduardoarosemena655]

Way to go Mark

[@ziaddaghfal5379]

Always pleasure to watch your videos! I am modifying my skx and git a metal brushed finish chapter ring from Namoki. Is it necessary to glue it? If yes, would it be ok to use UHU? Thanks

[@thskadow]

Thanks Marc! You rock.

[@ccooper8040]

Marc, Looked for your video on bezel alignment but could not find. Can you provide a link. Thanks

[@ccooper8040]

Marc, Found it. Watch and learn #19. Thanks

[@islandwatch]

Yes, and the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gou3m6eLgKyDjbs

[@bballmemories]

Mark, that's a brand new SKX007 J version that you opened up for this video. Will you be selling the watch afterwards, maybe at discounted price?

[@islandwatch]

Nope; needed another watch for parts :)

[@Pobrais]

Mark... Anyone.... I haven't got chapter ring issues (oo-er!) but my bezel doesn't align properly. You mentioned in your excellent video (Aren't they all?) that you have a video explaining how to align it. I can't find it. Could you, or anyone help? ps. Keep up the excellent work. I'm sure you have many, many thousands of watch lovers that look forward to your videos. Thank you.

[@islandwatch]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gou3m6eLgKyDjbs

[@peopleswatches]

Hello mark, very nice videos and very informative. I just want to ask you what do you use for recording your videos? A Camera or a phone and what type. Thank you and keep up the good work.

[@daletaylorjr.4786]

I’m also wondering if a replacement chapter ring would line up better. I may pick up a few to try out.

[@islandwatch]

That's possible.

[@domenicfp]

Great video and thank you

[@bobjimenez4464]

A plastic chapter ring with a sloppy fit inside a fairly expensive Seiko watch? I would expect something with a close fit and an accurate alignment tab. Thanks for the video!!!

[@islandwatch]

Welcome!

[@iGuille]

Great video, thanks for sharing!

[@hvacae6904]

Thanks for your effort...i wonder why seiko is not concern to this issue they should make a correction on this "legendary watch"

[@TheFlyrodder68]

Now that the chapter ring is addressed, the next one is the bezel insert not lining up. Easy enough, remove the insert and reapplied properly.

[@islandwatch]

That's one way; also did it in WNL 19.

[@TheFlyrodder68]

I first removed the bezel and then carefully removed the insert from the backside approach. Cleaned the underside of the insert and the retained glue from the bezel. I then put the bezel back on and then carefully glued the insert carefully lining it up.

[@robkarpati]

Can I get a link for the glue?

[@tunokies]

GS Hypo Cement is pretty widely available. Link depends on your country. I got some on ebay.co.uk. Always prefer to use watchmakers dial dots cut in half though...fiddly but you won't get glue in places you don't want to.

[@ytsilva3777]

It was a master class. I don't feel like doing that for I neither have the surgeon skills nor the guts. Anyway, it's great to learn how that can be done. Now I can enter in the Seiko workshop and scream they're liars if they say it is gonna take a lifetime cause it's a long and hard work, as they almost always say. Thanks a lot Mark.

[@islandwatch]

LOL, glad you enjoyed it nonetheless.