How to size a Seiko (or any!) Pin and Collar Bracelet. Watch and Learn #15

In the last episode of Watch and Learn, we showed you how to size the standard friction or cotter pin bracelet. Today, we tackle the mighty Pin and Collar bracelet that so many people are frightened of. We have all read the horror stories, and maybe even experienced one ourselves when sizing these popular bracelets.
With a little know how, and some 'Watch and Learn' under your belt, there is no need to be apprehensive. We will show you how to tackle the pin and collar bracelet with standard strap tools, and also some non conventional items like paper clips.
This video uses a few tools, and showcases some items available on our website.
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Tool kit: www.longislandw...
Seiko Monster bracelet: www.longislandw...
Seiko Turtle bracelet: www.longislandw...

[@TONY_FEZ]

these colar and pin systems are a complete nightmare to resize. Not just because it so fiddly and really adds nothing to the reliability or function of the bracelet, but because the collar part is SO TINY that if it flicks off when you are working on it you will never see it again and these are very hard and expensive ton get as replacement parts.

[@blueXtwoplustwo]

NOTE: For presage bracelet, you also need to drop the collar from inner side of the link. you won't be able to drop it from outside.

[@luanphan2706]

And Prospex models as well.

[@livequality4578]

Beat me to it.

[@LEVELMotorsports]

Same for the Snowflake.

[@richardhurr31]

And for Citizen watches.

[@scottparis6355]

SARB033? It has collars, but I can't squeeze them back in the hole I think they came out of.

[@JustBlueFish]

Marc, your viewers might find this helpful. The pin and collar bracelet as found on the SARB033, SSC019, and others works a bit different. I've done a video on that in the past. I referred someone asking about the type of bracelet you're working on in this video to come here as well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6rZnWSNoN-fqdE

[@pantograph]

My Citizen titanium H500 bracelet also has the collars inside the center part of the link, so you can't tell there is a collar without removing the link first. This type of collar also doesn't come out on the push pin, it just falls out of the link if you're not careful.

[@aumshanti2514]

So I bought my dad a Prospex and eagerly started the watch sizing.... Having NEVER come across collar and pin... Immediately lost the collar in a deep pile white rug.... Then found it and spent 3.. Yes 3 hours trying to sort the bastard thing out. I could not figure out which end (!...) the collar went in. However, I figured it out by mistake and the watch is still in one piece 3 years and counting! So I think you for this review as I've just ordered an Audaz Octomarine! Keep rocking my friend. Thank you for your amazing teaching videos! 🙏❤️👍

[@David-nx2vm]

Marc, I can’t thank you enough for this. My Citizen Paradigm titanium bracelet was kicking my butt, then I searched for this and immediately found your video. Just like you said, the collar was on the pin pusher. These topics are not glamorous or sexy, but we amateurs need this badly. You, sir, have the heart of a teacher!

[@napaquatics3639]

These are on the orient triton. Wanted to smash my head against a wall until I found this video

[@CataVlad21]

So you managed to do it? Did uou have the tools in the video? Cause without tools i cant put the damn collar inside the cap like Mark does and im running rapidly outta patience after 1h or trying :( Managed to remove 2 pins with a paperclip, but no way to put one back cause of the damn collar not fitting in the hole by itself like in the video. Anyone has any ideas for me, pls?

[@axelmontero1629]

@@CataVlad21 i know this is a year old but it might be that you can only insert it through the inside of the link. I know some seikos are like that.

[@Tom_H327]

I was freaking out because I thought there were two collars per link, so I was having some trouble. Finally, being completely frustrated I came to this video. What a lifesaver. 😂

[@brianhinder3652]

Thank you Marc for this exceptionally useful video. The entire watch community (including professionals/jewellers) is indebted to you for such a lucid and thorough tutorial.

[@islandwatch]

Brian Hinder Thanks for the kind words!

[@ricardoistudla8641]

Well said Brian!! I second that for sure! You are the man Marc! Thank you!!

[@andreascammin5619]

I just had to size my new Sumo's bracelet and still feel the urge to travel to Japan, meet the designer of that pin and collar system and punch him in the face...

[@pbanders]

Thanks, this video saved my butt when resizing my son's new Citizen watch. Did it on my own to start with, I was incredibly lucky not to lose the collars. Once I saw those, I knew I needed help and found your video. My son's new (2019) Citizen is different than my older one, which is like the Seiko you show here. The newer Citizen has the collar drop into the inner tang of the link, not the outer, which makes assembly and removal much easier, just drop the collar in, put the link together, then drive the pin through. Thanks again for making Dad look good.

[@plantagenetsurvivor8771]

Me too. Removed the pin and this tiny split pipe thing dropped out. I’m like: uh oh! So easy once you got it

[@JohnnyUtah-qi7fn]

Thank you so much, your comment saved me! I couldn’t realise where the collar went in until i you said so

[@HappyB63]

Very nice instructions. FYI: Orient Star Heritage Gothic bracelet has collars in the inside narrow part, i.e. not visible. They will fall and roll away on the table. The pins are of equal size at both ends.

[@TruePekso]

Your advice helped me when working on an Orient Triton bracelet. Thank you.

[@mortenblsberg1951]

Hey man - great video! Just wanted to let you guys know that on my Seiko (Prospex), the collar actually goes in the middle-part of the link, and not from the outside in as shown in this video. I was quite frustrated until I realized, so I thought someone might benefit from this information, if the collar does not fit from the outside as it does in this video :-)

[@oktc68]

Hi, I have a Prospex Solar Tuna and I think it might be the case with that too. Luckily I had bought the watch with the intention of changing the bracelet and the plastic shroud. When I first replaced the bracelet with a Miltat Endmill, I realised that the standard style bracelet looked better, so ordered another Miltat more inkeeping with the original design. It was then that I tried to size the Seiko bracelet. I found it very difficult to remove the pins and had no idea of pipes. Of course the manual that came with the watch made no mention of pipes & pins and the bracelet resizing instructions were for a regular push pin design (thanks Seiko!)

[@MrFrankthegoldfish]

Can confirm this is the same on my SPB143 with the newer bracelet. Thanks for the saving comment, I was losing my mind when it simply wouldn't fit outside to in.

[@mt2149]

Looks like the same on my Baume

[@thistleclockworks1292]

Mark, this video saved my tail today when I went to adjust my Seiko Presage. I figured it was just a friction / cotter pin adjustment, but nope! I tried to pull out the pin and it would not pull out all the way. Then I remembered this series and watched this video. My collar was hidden in the center of the bracelet. As I watched, you said, “expect the unexpected.” So I grabbed a white paper plate to put under the bracelet. Good thing, as I yanked the pin out the collar popped out of the center and was trapped inside the lip of the plate. Another watch nube saved by Mark of Long Island Watch!

[@nickarya]

Thanks Marc !! This video is the best watch bracelet instruction video. I am a Mechanical Engineer by profession, knew there were pins & collars, but thanks for taking us through it step by step.

[@BiaMaith]

Thanks for this. It went into the middle part in mine rather than the outside part as shown in the video. I used a sewing needle to pick the collar up. It made it really easy to get into the hole.

[@keithabberstein6982]

Thank you for such a lucid professionally produced video. You are not only very knowledgeable and thorough in your delivery, but explain everything to make it all look so simple! Very well done indeed. Thanks.

[@nolanreed7090]

I'm glad I saw this. I didn't realize this pin/collar system existed. Surely this will save me some future anguish. Thanks for doing these, Marc.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for checking it out.

[@Tripolish]

Out of all the videos FINALLY one that gets to the point and is detailed. You MUST be a professional watch repair person because this video is so refreshing and helpful!!!

[@JanSaevebek]

Are you kidding? I'm 8min 25secs in and he hasn't done a thing, just waffle.

[@grzegorzm1277]

You saved my life ;) ! I was searching everywhere for "lost" collar and yet there it was sitting on the pushing pin of the vice.

[@Lee_K_5555]

Excellent, excellent, excellent!!!! This is a fantastic series with this one being most helpful to us Seiko owners.

[@islandwatch]

Lee K So glad to hear it. Thanks for watching.

[@Lee_K_5555]

Right after watching the video I dug out my Turtle bracelet and sized it myself using the techniques you described. I had purchased it last year already sized but it didn't fit quite right so I needed to remove one more link and change the micro adjustment in the clasp. Everything went smoothly and I now have no fear in the future of the pin and collar system. Thanks again!

[@islandwatch]

Lee K awesome!

[@MoodiFLEX]

Great video, helped me size my Grand Seiko rep. You're a gem to the rep community. We love you.

[@eigrp]

Great instructional. Sized my first pin-and-collar and felt like an old pro thanks to Marc. No problems, it was easy. But it would've been a nightmare had I not known.

[@craigsalvatore3401]

Excellent video, Mark. Thank you for explaining how to easily size a pin-and-collar bracelet. After having sized many bracelets that use the cotter pin system, thanks to your simple tutorial, I can confidently proceed to what I had formally perceived as a complex coupler.

[@Happyfacehotwheels]

I know this video is 5 years old but I had to chime in after watching said video. I have a HEIMDALLR monster that uses a pin & collar setup but the collar sits in the middle of the link instead of at the end. When resizing you have to put the collar in the middle link first, place the 2 links together then push the pin through. Also worth noting, the pin can be pushed in either side. After watching this video I had to go back to my HEIMDALLR that I sized 2 years ago to double check my work. It was all good. Thanks for all the great videos you make, I love learning new stuff.

[@MagnaxVingtTrois]

I had my Casio Lineage delivered from Japan yesterday, and of course I immediately set out to shorten the bracelet. I wasn’t aware of the pins and collars variety of bracelets, so I would have gone absolutely crazy, had I not found this clip. It literally saved my day. I cannot thank you enough! Now I can wear my new watch proudly! (The construction differs on my bracelet in that the collars go on the inside of the link, but the principle is the same.)

[@mannysingh6618]

Point is Seiko should change the design of the fiddly collars...Screw in pins are nice Good video, non the less.

[@islandwatch]

Manny Singh I actually do agree with the response. I've sized a few bracelets with screws where the screws were seized and I had to replace links.

[@mannysingh6618]

Fair enough, I've given up on these annoying Seiko straps. I'm not sure how I managed to do it on my MM300...

[@DM-rc4yu]

How do you damage the thread on screw in pins? It's pretty much impossible if you're even remotely careful. Friction pins make me hate the watch, they suck so badly.

[@tomasinacovell4293]

@@DM-rc4yu - They may be fiddly, it's a little easier on the folded link bracelets but unless the metallurgy and machining are perfect and the screws are as large as can be it's hard to make them last or keep in. Lots of Rolex's get dropped badly because of their screw coming undone.

[@gurtana]

what if the collar doesn't fit back into the bracelet? I'm having trouble with the collar going back into position once its out

[@CataVlad21]

What solution did you find, bro? Im having the same problem for my Orion Triton... Drives me nuts for like 1h

[@gurtana]

@@CataVlad21 honestly, it’s been so long now, I have forgotten what I did. I either managed to get the collar back in using the pin tool, or I left it out once I realised I didn’t need the extra link anyway. Sorry I couldn’t be of better help! I do wish I took it to a watch repair centre instead if I knew what I’d be in for. Next watch with pins and collars will be straight there.

[@peterbdavies]

I have managed to source an Orange Monster 2nd generation. The watch is in really good condition which I am pleased about. However it would seem that whoever sized the bracelet was not familiar with pins and collars. As a result it looks like some collars are missing and the bracelet has been secured in the holes with super glue!!! I am going to need to resize the bracelet. How do I get the pins out although they may just come out as normal. Also where can I source new pins and collars in the UK?

[@Pitchuga]

Just want to tell you guys that for example, in the Seiko Samurai PADI the pin is on the inside of the link, so the holes are the same diameter and when you look you dont see the collar, when i did it for the first time i had the stop for a second and observe, and using the video as a guide i knew that the collar had to be somewhere caude it didnt come out stuck in the machine. Thanks Marc you have been very helpfull with all your work in the channel.

[@ianlevo]

Thank you Mark for posting this. I had my jeweler resize my turtle bracelet only for it to fall apart days later. I took it back to him and he put the pin/collar in backwards (again). Just fixed it myself at home with the help of your video. Cheers.

[@islandwatch]

Great, thanks!

[@HaloHamstur]

How the hell do you just drop the collar in. My collars has no problem falling out but I can't get it back in. Even after forcing it with multiple tools. I'm not on the wrong side either.

[@davidcgrbigcigar9269]

Great video... but why o why don't Seiko just redesign or upgrade their bracelets ? If it's because of keeping the cost of the actual watch down , why not just sell the watch head and direct everyone to strapcode ???

[@nedflanders3769]

So the little arrows on the bottom of the links indicate the direction and side to push to remove the pins? Inserting the pin, you reverse the direction?! Is this the same convention for all watch bracelets?

[@matthewwhite5158]

hydrostatic pressure lmao. That type of pressure increases as you go deeper so its a poor analogy. Just an fyi. Its referred to as "static" because its referring to pressure generated by water that is not moving.

[@kekolber868]

Pin/collar is sadistic. I can't believe they are still using this system in the new King Seiko. Appalling.

[@johnmasinter2576]

NOTE: On the Seiko Monster bracelet, the collar inserts into the outer link. On the modern 62Mas / MM200, the collar goes into the middle link. This difference was driving me nuts until I watched enough videos to see it both ways.

[@qwerty135797]

Thanks again for this video!! I used your video to size my Seiko monster over 3 years ago and here I am again sizing my new Seiko turtle PADI. Totally forgot about the fork tip method at the end of the procedure but after watching that segment, I finished my project. Seriously Buddy, thanks for the detailed explanation and excellent camera angles!

[@josephcastro9414]

Thanks! Note on the Samurai SRPB51 bracelet for your viewers: You gotta drop the collar in on the INNER side of the link on the arrow end. If you drop it in on the outside it won't fit.

[@islandwatch]

Like the PADI solar diver, thank you.

[@MrNudewoody]

That's why I couldn't get it to work, losing two "pipes" in the process! Thank you.

[@jpaltman706]

Thanks! I have to size a samurai on monday, this is the comment I needed!

[@SA-hk8xj]

Same with the SBDC series. One collar on the inner link (arrow side). Pin does not have any wide barrel side (smooth throughout) ;)

[@gazyates1428]

Pity I did not find this comment 1 week ago I was banging my head on wall till I sussed it out about 30 minutes later

[@ejayh.8360]

God I hate this system. I have changed all my pin and collar bracelets to pin types and screw links.

[@christopherlocke6115]

great video 🖒🖒 I've just purchased the tools you have there so I'm ready to size my prospex turtle when it arrives 😃 great job

[@islandwatch]

That's great to hear!

[@geraldwoodny5252]

I want marks "junk bin"

[@islandwatch]

Gerald Wood LOL. It's a real treasure trove of garbage!

[@davidkremer4558]

I was NOT looking for weird things to happen, and only after I got my pins out and resized did I find out my invicta had pins AND collars 😂 quick tip, if you lose a collar in a carpet, I flashlight might be your best friend haha

[@drwindsurf]

I watch this video every time I size a Seiko bracelet. Thank you Marc :)

[@LD-bv1pm]

Good explanation. I bought a tool on Amazon and it was too big, it jammed into the collar and wouldn't release. Regardless this is a monumentally crap mechanism. Abysmal.

[@Swisha90s]

Yup! They even got the pin and collar on watches selling for 1400$. Why?!?!? WHY CANT THEY USE SCREWS!

[@samehh.b.alexandria9350]

thank u mark for the presentation. i use a very simple tool with a "nail" end that happen to be exactly the same collar diameter. and to fit it back in i just hold it against a wooden table and push the pin back in from the opposit side (sometimes gove in a hit with a mini hummer). thank you again and look forward to watch your next video. very educating. regards.

[@islandwatch]

Alex B.H.S Perfect. Whatever works, right?

[@RayAzul7]

Thank you so much. I can wear my watch now.

[@jazzzzdude]

This was really helpful. I just got an SKA369. However when I tried to reinsert the collars, they wouldn't fit. After half an hour I was ready to take the watch to a dealer. Then I discovered that the collar went into the inner link, not the outer link so look out for that.

[@jazzzzdude]

And also be careful when holding the collar in the tweezers that it doesn't ping across the room!

[@islandwatch]

Yes, they are doing that on some models too!

[@hyperchord]

Holy crap, dude you are a lifesaver!

[@88detox]

Is right! Thankfully I watched another video which shows the collar in the inner link (on my SKA761P1). Also, I inserted the long pin back in the same direction as the arrow. Hope that’s the correct way.

[@mickfar1]

Great video! I was struggling to figure out how to get the link back in after taking some out in my new Seiko. This has helped massively 👌👊

[@Owen-np3wf]

Thanks Mark for your very easy to follow instructions. I dont have the most steady hands in the world but managed to size my sumo I just got in the mail with no tweezers and using the tools I had lying around which happened to be the same ones featured in the video. I did lose 1 collar but managed to not lose any others, definitely made the rest of the sizing pretty stressful knowing that if I lost another one I'd be screwed haha. Thanks again for saving me about #20-$30, your a legend.

[@scottparis6355]

YES! The collars are tiny and if you're holding one with tweezers and they slip slightly, the collar is launched into the air, never to be seen again.

[@theofender5523]

Thanks for the quality instructional videos. This just saved my new watch! I definitely would have forgotten to check for a collar when I sized the watch. Also, I'm not sure it was in this video specifically but I never knew about micro adjustment until now. So thanks again and keep up the quality videos!

[@Avantii7]

I think it is also good to note that there are cases where qc on these bracelets are sometimes skipped as I bought my SRP309 and when i was trying to get the links off "properly where the arrows indicate where to push" mine had the pins and collars backwards on the other half of the bracelet. I found out when i peaked inside and saw the collars where on the other side.

[@sureshobhan]

I recently bought a Citizen Eco drive Promaster..a local watch guy messed up the watch bracelet and lost the collars and my watch was almost about to fall off when I noticed the pin coming off..watch saved went to my regular watch guy who fixed it ..but the earlier watch guy messed up the sides of the bracelet by hitting it with a hammer...

[@giraykamilkaya]

Same here, my dealer almost fucked my presage

[@AvicSubfusca]

Exactly the same thing happened to me TWICE. Once with a Citizen and once with a Seiko. The time with my brand new Promaster. Literally walking out the shop and it came apart. No idea how I reacted so fast but I managed to catch it. I went back to the counter fuming. The staff just laughed. The second time, with the Seiko, I returned home wearing my new Turtle. Walked into the kitchen and again it came apart on me and again I was super lucky to catch it before it hit the deck. Had to go all the way back to the jewellers in another town at a fair bit of inconvenience. They weren't remotely apologetic or concerned either. What was funny is both of those dealers sell much higher end watches than Seiko and Citizen. Good luck spending £5000+ on a watch with those clowns who cant do even the most basic adjustments. After my bad experiences. i bought a watch tool kit off amazon and fix my own bracelets now. If i mess it up and it falls off my wrist at least that's on me.

[@wojciechslusarczyk8523]

Thank you, i had ti put my collar inside the two elements, the hole was too small to fit it from the outside.

[@MikeMeehanCC]

Thank you so much for producing and posting this video on sizing watch bands. I’m not sure ow much money this saved me but $20 to $30 is in the ballpark. Specifically I learned how to resize a Seiko with the friction push pins. I thought it had the pin and collar type but your detailed description of what the ends of the pins looked like made all the difference. Now I can go off to the formal ball this weekend with my good watch fitting properly. Keep up the good work.

[@islandwatch]

Great to hear, thanks for "watching" and "learning".

[@TONY_FEZ]

I was quoted $90 here in Australia.

[@arshiaabbasi4920]

Thank you so much for this tutorial! I had no idea how to put the collars back on again... I really appreciate your help. 🙏🏻

[@jorge23483]

As usual an excellent video, very informative. A most have on any DIY watchfan's Playlist. Thank you very much Mark🙏

[@LNYuiko]

Wow, without this video, I would've lost all my collars. I only managed to lose one but luckily I won't really need it.

[@DZ_AU]

Yes, yes, yes. What a relief! I was determined not to mess up (another) Seiko bracelet because of my lack of knowledge and technique regarding P&C. Easy once you know how. Thanks again Marc!

[@kwaphoto1]

For the SARX045 and similar, the pin works a bit different. The end with the arrows is too narrow for the pin to come out or be inserted. You have to insert it in the center section and then insert the pin as shown. Took me a bit to figure that out as my SARB and SBDC work like the video does. Thanks, Mark!

[@f1hotrod527]

My land tortoise bracelet has pin and collar, the collar is on the inner male side of the link. It is not on the outside of the bracelet. Also I cannot see a larger end on the pin. It appears to be the same cross section all the way across.

[@joseph175]

My samurai is the same, it came from the factory that way. So he's doing it wrong for modern Seiko bracelets (or at least many of threm). When the collar is in the male (smaller) part of the link it''s much easier and no fiddling around with pushing from both sides that he talks about. The outer part of the next link holds the collar in place while you insert the pin.

[@aesric]

pin and collar is by far the worst system a bracelet can use

[@vim-enjoyer]

Thanks so much for the video! I just received my Grand Seiko Snowflake which has a pin and collar, and was able to size it myself fairly painlessly by following this.

[@islandwatch]

Nice! Gorgeous watch!

[@justinschultz8590]

Thanks for this! I used this video to successfully size my Casio Oceanus s100 I got today. It's not as hard as it seems like it might be, though that's probably because the collar sits in the middle of the link instead of on the outside so you just seat the collar and align the links and push the pin in.

[@davidmarshall8853]

Very well executed video. So glad I watched this before attempting to resize my own Seiko. Video must have been made with me in mind, the watch used is exactly the same as my own!

[@degenerateWA]

Bought the Seiko SSC508 because of the 5 second screen time from this video. Means a lot when a watch can make a man buy it just from a 5 second clip. I think it was the coined edge that got me. Something about coined edges gives a watch the perception of much higher quality. Mark, will we see a review on the SSC508?

[@jaxnean2663]

Worst system I’ve ever seen in any watch

[@EdEditz]

I got introduced to the pin and collar system the hard way, shortening the bracelet of my Citizen Promaster Skyhawk. I didn't know about this system so I took out the pins and lost the collars. Naturally when I put the pins back in they just dropped out again. I put in split pins as a temporary measure but bit by bit I found back all the collars in my carpet. Just by the way the light reflected of off them so I was able to put everything back in order but yeah.... lesson learned! Btw, with the Citizen watchband the collar drops in a hole in the middle part of the link at the side where the arrow is, not at the outside as in this video.

[@Chasrut75]

I cant get the collar back in. Not sure what to do. 😃

[@hrabanus]

Thanks a lot, I did my first Seiko bracelet resizing today. It was successful and I only lost one collar thanks to your great video!

[@robertofuentes9759]

Thanks Marc. Another great video. Next order I plan to get your tool kit and start doing the sizing and strap changing myself. You're tops amigo !!!

[@islandwatch]

Roberto Fuentes Thank you and thanks for checking out the video.

[@Assureddominance]

My prospex has the collars on the inside of the link. A lot better design because you don’t need to hold it in while you push the pin in. This was my first pin and collar job. My $20 Amazon watch took kit did the trick. I much prefer screws. But it wasn’t to bad. Temporarily lost a collar that was still in the link and shot a pin across the room squeezing my tweezers to tightly. Took 3 times as long as screws and way more complicated.

[@barfoo5981]

Thanks for the great video. Please point out that the collar may need to be inserted into the inner hole. I found the collar impossible to fit into the outer part! I didn't try the inner holes!. And then I went and lost two little collars trying to jam them in :-( I may try the other links now that I know this (on a new padi srpb99 bracelet)

[@mids187]

This is a pretty important point! Thanks

[@markusbe.musicfromtheunder2497]

You are awesome. This (all) video is awesome. This channel is awesome. Thank you.

[@RPercheiro]

7 years later, you’re still helping people. I had a little heart attack when one little piece fell out of my new Seiko Astron while resizing the bracelet. I had no clue that this pin system existed. Thanks to you I managed to do it and my watch fits perfectly.

[@Vlerkies]

Yup. I'm one of those guys! Marc, you just saved me my sanity, thank you! In my youth I previously had 3 Seiko watches, all with split pin type bracelets. I was unaware of the Pin and Collar gizmo. After many years of iffy watches I decided to buy a nice diver again and today I received my SBDC029 Shogun. When I got home I began scrounging round the house for a suitable tool to resize/remove a link or 2 etc and after failing to find a decent pin or paper clip, a tool in the Samsung phone box seemed to meet the requirements. I pushed the first pin out the right way (that much I knew), and proceeded to the next only to notice this tiny other cylindrical piece of metal lying there. Curious I put it aside and lone behold after the 2nd pin another one (the collars) Terrified I was messing up big time I hopped onto google and youtube and this video came up. Thanks man, this really helped. Big thumbs up and sub.

[@yuu0minae]

wish I had seen this (and the previous video) last night when I was struggling for 2 hours using an old stud earring and a rock, yes I was using an actual rock to resize my bracelet. also was surprised by the pin and collar system, didn't know about those before. should get one of those pin vices the next time.

[@GeeMood]

Thanks Marc! Just resized my first pin & collar bracelet on my Seiko SRP637K1.

[@rvfixerguybrian]

Great video. pins and collers are tricky but with the right tools and a loupe to inspect your work it gets easier

[@islandwatch]

rvfixerguybrian Yes, very true!

[@krysjez]

Thank you so much, just had to resize a citizen and could not for the life of me figure out how to do the collar. On my watch it needs to be dropped in to the center and then the rest of the pin inserted through the “u” shaped link.

[@WuBloodKin09]

Hi Mark, great Watch & Learn video! I was wondering when will you get the Turtle OEM bracelets back in stock?

[@islandwatch]

August I hear.

[@WuBloodKin09]

Long Island Watch Thank you!

[@M82RKY]

My 39.5mm Clean Ocean arrived today, absolutely stunning watch and I love the size, I am used to 44mm watches but this looks so elegant for a diver. Proud to own an Oris

[@Fitomann]

Great video with essential tips! After watching the video, it was really easy to shorten the bracelet of my King Seiko. Thank you very much.

[@darrenchristopher775]

hey! quick question does anybody know what is the size of the micro adjuster pin on a seiko 5 SNKL23K1 ? i lost mine and i need to buy a new one

[@jameswcollett]

Very instructional - thank you. I still hate the pin and collar system. Seiko kindly sent me a spare couple of pin & collar pieces for my Turtle, after I lost the collar for one of the pins. I followed the video here, and it made total sense. However, my collar is not compressed sufficiently, even though it's inside the link. The little bugger still slips out. Are there different sizes/widths for these things? I supplied Seiko with the exact model of my watch.

[@Assureddominance]

Man, I’ve only dealt with screws and must say that’s the best way to do it. I think the only reason the pin method is used is so they can get you to go to a jewelry store.

[@jefferyneu3915]

Well done. Many jewelers don't know how to do these!

[@islandwatch]

Jeffery Neu Very true! And it's unfortunate for some customers.

[@KB3UKTKB3ULN]

Hi, I noticed when watching the video the Seiko Prospex Solar Power World Time you were warring was not pictured with the gold accent on your website. The Seiko Prospex Solar Power World Time, Chronograph, Alarm Watch #SSC487 kind of looks something like yours, but didn't come in the gold as pictured here. Is this style of Seiko Solar still available? I just ordered and received a Seiko Presage automatic from your company the one with the white-ish sun burst face with blue hour and minute hands. Really a nice watch. The shipment was really fast and I love the watch. Thanks so much

[@scottparis6355]

SARB033 has pins and collars too, but the pins don't have an obvious head on them, so it's hard to know which end goes in first. Also, I can't get the collar to go back in the hole after dozens of tries. It does NOT just slide in like in your example. The collars are split so that they spring open when they are removed, and it seems like you need some kind of tiny tool to compress the collar in order to drive it back into the hole it came out of. Maybe you have a SARB033 lieing around and you could do a "How to size" video on one of those?

[@kylewinter2297]

This video saved my marriage. Thanks, Marc!

[@msadikoff91]

I have Seiko SSC813 I don’t think I have collars on both sides. It’s really annoying to resize. Pretty much impossible. Collar’s won’t go inside that hole. Stupid system by Seiko. Now I have to take it to watchmaker and pay them to do it.

[@whiskyguzzler982]

About two years ago, I bought a lovely SPB219 and have worn it more than occasionally since. I happened to be typing a lot and released the clasp to wear the watch up on my forearm and out came the pin and off slid the watch - luckily into my lap. I look in the parts bag and find three links, two pins, and THREE collars. Nice of those fellas to throw in an extra collar for when the one that was holding the watch together evaporated. Thanks for this tutorial!

[@TheDanibus]

I have a Hamilton Jazzmaster that has pins and collars. It was one of the first watches I ever bought. When I went to remove a link on the bracelet, I had ZERO knowledge and experience. I learned a lot in that first hour fussing around with these tiny pieces. Now I'm wondering if I put them in backwards though!

[@Knightswhosaynee]

Thank You very much .👍 Just spent an hour watching your video while working on a watch and finally got it after a lot of #&$@ %&&#$$ , but, that was due to my butterfingers , not your Excellent video. You are recommended by Urban Gentry and when she who must be obeyed , who l Love, allows it l will check out your watch selection. Thanks again

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

I just received a large citizen when lo and behold, something dropped out during sizing the bracelet. A little tiny tiny tube/collar. Now that i was aware txs to the vid, it all went quite well. So THANKS! Amateur tip: if your table isn't white, just put an A4 page underneath everything, really helped.

[@MadOgre765]

How do you put the collar back in when it has expanded to a larger size than the link hole? I was simply removing some links on a Citizen CA0650-58E titanium strap (with proper tools of course) and bent one of the the collars while trying to put the strap back together. There doesn't seem to be a way to get any of the collars back on. The only choice seems to be a NATO strap now.

[@MrPolimorf]

Hi Mark, I have two questions and the first one is if it is a same thing with folded links and the next one is will i solve the problem(either loose, either tight), if I get a new clasp with 5-6 micro adjustments when now I have only two and I can't get it right. Thanks in advance and sorry for my english. It is not my first language as I'm from Croatia. All the best...

[@tjkeeling]

Mark, thanks. fyi.. I just sized a PADI SNE435 and the collar was on the inside of the bracelet link (as per Tony's comment below). Kinda threw me, but as you say... Expect the unexpected. Thanks again

[@harrygohil4412]

Hi, may be a silly question! I have bought Truwood Apple watch band which has those arrows on 3 links both side, (which indicates/tells you) to push the pins, however, there are some links without the arrows, does it mean that you can not remove the links without the arrows? I really like your video because you have explain things in details. Thank you so much.

[@edcain3676]

I Swear,That Turtle Looks Very Similar to A Super Lum.Watch I bought in Malaysia,While on R&R from V.Nam in Late 60' s,That Lasted thru 6 months of Jungle Warfare + 20 Some Odd Years of Civilian Life.

[@JMJAZZR51]

I know this is an old video, but I won't even buy Seiko watches on a bracelet anymore because they're so ridiculous to resize. Rubber strap all the way with Seiko dive watches.

[@davidsandrovitch7635]

I bought a relatively inexpensive Calvin Klein automatic and then found it had pins and collars. Instructive video, but still not easy without appropriate tools. The collars have to go inside one of the inner links of the jubilee bracelet, the drilled holes being ever so slightly wider. And despite my best efforts collars still managed to jump out of my tweezers on to the floor, but luckily I did manage to find them. What I do now is slip the collar over a tweezer end, and then insert it in the appropriate hole. Now we need a video for removing pins with screws on both sides, stuck on with Loctite.