How to alloy white gold

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Jan Hendrik Viljoen

Jan Hendrik Viljoen

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@argentummoonjewellery3503
@argentummoonjewellery3503 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this video. I am on a quest to make all my jewellery alloys and have been apprehensive about alloying my own white gold from pure gold, pure palladium and pure silver. This video has been a MASSIVE help. Thank you.
@explorer2571
@explorer2571 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks easy to follow instructions and no nonsense talking.
@ponda.5203
@ponda.5203 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I kept evaporating my gold recently!!
@silverestore
@silverestore 5 жыл бұрын
I like a man who can do it all, and do it all well!
@JanHendrikViljoen
@JanHendrikViljoen 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeffrey!
@mitsospapas3306
@mitsospapas3306 2 жыл бұрын
great video !! if we want 14 ct or 18 ct white gold what percentage of palladium we add ?
@wsvitak
@wsvitak 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing and providing the easy math for switching from percentage to grams. Can you provide some recipes for 14k white and 14k yellow?
@tywhitmire860
@tywhitmire860 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great detailed instructions and easy to follow!
@larakoula
@larakoula 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, nice video and instructions. Will the 18 ct of this mix look really white? or will it need a coating?
@HaHaDK
@HaHaDK 4 жыл бұрын
Pure gold is 24 karat, meaning that 24 out of 24 parts of the metal are gold. Although the terms sound familiar, the karat (k) system used to measure the purity of gold is different from the carat (c) unit of mass that’s used to weigh diamonds.
@robpetesworkshop
@robpetesworkshop 5 жыл бұрын
One question,after you poured the final alloy mix, do you forge the ingot with a hammer before working it on the rolling milll?
@ethandonohoe
@ethandonohoe Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@whitehouseummahh9725
@whitehouseummahh9725 Жыл бұрын
Is that an oxyacetylene torch?
@mikep.coplin6800
@mikep.coplin6800 2 ай бұрын
Is white gold hard to test with out a scratch acid test, for 9K and 14K ? Just wondering !
@anandpanchal6390
@anandpanchal6390 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for share your precious experience
@northwestcutt2215
@northwestcutt2215 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and the math breakdown! Now I wonder if the higher percentage of palladium is used the whiter the gold?
@joshharris3040
@joshharris3040 2 жыл бұрын
The color of a gold alloy can be quite complex and depends on many factors. Karat is one factor, but the most important factor by far is the alloying metals used and their relative proportions to each other and to the gold. The simple answer to your question is yes, in almost all cases, the higher the percentage of palladium used, the whiter the resulting gold alloy will be. That's a good rule of thumb, but there are exceptions, some of which are quite fascinating. For example, regarding the 9kt alloy made in this video, if you were to replace a specific proportion of the silver used with indium, you would not end up with white gold at all. This is true even (especially) if you also increased the percentage of palladium in the alloy. Instead you would have a yellow gold alloy with a color similar to 14kt yellow gold. This alloy would be even richer in color than a higher karat alloy of gold and silver that doesn't use any palladium whatsoever. Even more interesting is the fact that the gold itself has very little to do with the color of this particular alloy. In fact, the gold isn't necessary at all for the yellow color! It is entirely possible to make a lovely yellow "gold" alloy containing only silver, indium, and palladium (all of which are white metals) as long as you get the proportions of each metal correct. This happens because palladium and indium react with each other when near a 1:1 atomic ratio to create an intermetallic compound (PdIn) that has a red color. The addition of silver changes the color to yellow while also making the alloy more durable, as PdIn is very brittle in its pure form. Adding gold to this alloy improves tarnish resistance and durability while maintaining the yellow color, but only to a point. If you keep adding gold beyond approximately the 10kt level (41.7% gold by weight), this will then start bleaching the alloy back towards white. The same thing happens with copper. Adding a little doesn't hurt the color, and can even shift it closer to a rose gold, but adding too much will bleach the color away just like too much gold will.
@murtarzarahbah322
@murtarzarahbah322 2 жыл бұрын
What is the best alloy for palladium jewelry, hand forged?
@saltymemesmith
@saltymemesmith 2 жыл бұрын
If you miss out the Palladium, using only Gold and Silver. what will the Gold be called without Palladium?
@JanHendrikViljoen
@JanHendrikViljoen 2 жыл бұрын
If you do not add Palladium you end up making green gold if you only add silver. Especially in the case of 18ct gold. Wit 14ct the colour may be a very light shade of yellow.
@jimbettridge3123
@jimbettridge3123 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jan!
@evgenyk.4681
@evgenyk.4681 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Tell me please, what is your opinion if to add up to 8% of zinc and decrase the Ag? I guess you would increase the fluidity up to decent level😊
@denissota6353
@denissota6353 11 ай бұрын
So i have 1 gram Palladium 999.5% how many grams of Gold% and Silver% should I add to profit 14 ct white gold?Thanks if u answer.
@malcolmcliff-du8qp
@malcolmcliff-du8qp 2 ай бұрын
The intro is already my mindset... No cheap base metals
@levynakal
@levynakal 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can you make a video on how to alloy rose gold?.
@FurqanH
@FurqanH 5 жыл бұрын
How much paledium cpntent will be in 18 k gold?
@downundersurvival815
@downundersurvival815 5 жыл бұрын
Can you show the process of making solder in gold? Thanks
@JanHendrikViljoen
@JanHendrikViljoen 5 жыл бұрын
I might do a video on making gold solder in the future.
@fionadee1416
@fionadee1416 5 жыл бұрын
@@JanHendrikViljoen That would be very appreciated. I will look forward to this as your videos have a wonderful teaching style. Thank you for making them.
@BobRossin-o
@BobRossin-o 3 жыл бұрын
Do you always alloy with the 14% of palladium and the other part silver? Even tho it’s 9k, 14k or 18k Obviously making the conversión to the karat your looking for
@BristlyBill
@BristlyBill 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, what % of palladium would you use for higher karat alloys such as 14kt or 18kt
@JanHendrikViljoen
@JanHendrikViljoen 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer 14% to 16% palladium content for 14ct and 18ct white gold
@Yoko.Kurama
@Yoko.Kurama 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanHendrikViljoen is white 18k gold really white? It doesnt make sense to me if it's 75 percent gold
@dulgeren
@dulgeren 5 жыл бұрын
thank you
@argentummoonjewellery3503
@argentummoonjewellery3503 5 жыл бұрын
Could you show the process for yellow and rose gold aswell?
@Thehomieibrahim
@Thehomieibrahim 4 жыл бұрын
Yellow gold is elemental gold
@Thehomieibrahim
@Thehomieibrahim 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to make yellow gold specifically, it is yellow naturally
@AlexDuWaldt
@AlexDuWaldt 4 жыл бұрын
Do all Palladium white gold alloys contain trace amounts of Silver?
@simsaman6601
@simsaman6601 3 жыл бұрын
Hello brother, if i do 18k white gold, how many gram of 24k of fine gold? am looking forward and say thanks you so much for you kindness.
@MUDSWAT
@MUDSWAT 2 жыл бұрын
I have to do this tomorrow, is it possible to just use 16k Gold and .999 fine Silver? If so I have about 3.1grams of 16-18K gold I want to make into white gold I have the silver too. Please help me!
@JanHendrikViljoen
@JanHendrikViljoen 2 жыл бұрын
You must add Palladium to turn the gold white. Using only silver added to the gold will not turn gold white.
@MUDSWAT
@MUDSWAT 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanHendrikViljoen Different places use different white gold. I used silver, and it made white gold. I just have no way of plating it in Rodium for that blast white-gold look.
@argentummoonjewellery3503
@argentummoonjewellery3503 5 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend 14% palladium for 14K and 18K white too?
@JanHendrikViljoen
@JanHendrikViljoen 5 жыл бұрын
It can work yes. However I prefer using 16% palladium content for 18ct white gold and 15% for 14ct white gold
@moeong
@moeong 5 жыл бұрын
hi, for palladium do you use 950 or 500?
@massimilianoilardi3571
@massimilianoilardi3571 3 жыл бұрын
Ciao devo fare una lega giallo gold 18 carati mi scrivi come devo fare
@omsoni4906
@omsoni4906 4 жыл бұрын
Hi can you please give me ratio of mixing palladium and silve in 18k white gold (percentage of palladium and silver in 10 gram gold) i really appreciate it
@roopeshachari3663
@roopeshachari3663 5 жыл бұрын
Super
@NitinKatiyarCircle
@NitinKatiyarCircle 4 жыл бұрын
Even though there is some gold in it, but by volume it is all silver and palladium. Even by looks it is no more near gold. I wonder why it exists at first place and why people want jewelry of white gold over platinum when it is so expensive.
@narendrakhona1168
@narendrakhona1168 2 жыл бұрын
NICE INFORMATION & VIDEO, NEXT TIME PLEASE INCREASE VOLUME. GUESS YOU ARE SOFT SPOKEN.
@JanHendrikViljoen
@JanHendrikViljoen 2 жыл бұрын
Ok next time
@k1lay
@k1lay Жыл бұрын
Maybe you're just deaf. Volume is fine.
@argentummoonjewellery3503
@argentummoonjewellery3503 5 жыл бұрын
Do you use a standard fused silica crucible?
@JanHendrikViljoen
@JanHendrikViljoen 5 жыл бұрын
I use a standard ceramic crucible lined with boraks
@Hypermoto47
@Hypermoto47 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of a 9k chain lol I’ve heard of 10k. What’s this 9k you speak of because I’ve never seen that in a store
@scala1944
@scala1944 5 жыл бұрын
Your formula is correct, I cannot criticize you.
@fuckyougoogle427
@fuckyougoogle427 9 ай бұрын
Why not use only Palladium instead of adding Silver? Aside from cost is there a reason not to?
@francoiscombrinck7518
@francoiscombrinck7518 2 ай бұрын
waar is m mes? ek het jou n microskoop gegee? n deal is n deal
@Tinkey1993
@Tinkey1993 2 жыл бұрын
why not just make jewelry out of palladium?
@sabiyabegum9694
@sabiyabegum9694 4 жыл бұрын
I am that person which is me I do it all pro
@alvinkoh5556
@alvinkoh5556 5 жыл бұрын
White gold is the most stupid and expensive stainless steel ever invented!
@tbandikoota
@tbandikoota 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted to disagree, but I can’t. That’s like silver plating a gold medal. 🙄
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