How to always beat World Eaters in Warhammer 40k!

World Eaters (and other melee threats) are a big problem for many people in Warhammer 40k. Learn how to handle the melee side of the game and crush your foes!
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[@ComradeOgilvy369]

Watching this as a World Eater to see what the mortals fear most

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

There is alot to fear!

[@ComradeOgilvy369]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 I did feel like mentioning World Eaters can absolutely bring good shooting and I think the meta will eventually evolve in that direction. Helbrutes for instance can have (my preferred setup) twin heavy bolter with a heavy flamer on the fist, you can bring both variety of predators for either extreme anti infantry or anti tank, forgefiends are also good outside of Black Legion I swear on the corpse emperor

[@boredmagala5701]

My mauler/forgefiend is the first model I’m magnetizing(like a caveman :)) I’m just getting into 40k and am building world eaters

[@nightstaber2010]

Burn Maim kill!!!

[@jacobhogg7208]

Thanks so much for this video, been struggling against my friends World Eaters Army for a while (I play Necrons), was thinking about trying out screens of sacrificial Scarabs and I guess that's the way to go, this has been a big help!

[@alexdubinchyk6759]

Thanks you for great video! Few thoughts: 1. WE have more models to deploy then Custodes, so Angron could deploy last. As result its really hard to fully screen 2. Without tanks shooting, killing T12 could be very hard. So angron could just lock entire army in deployment zone. 3. I think for Custodes 2x5 Wichseekers should make good screening protection. Thanks for advice! Thank you for the great video!

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Cheers man, just remember your army will wound angron on 4's with typically full re rolls. It really is not that hard to get through! He's also T11 ;) Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Quick correction from my buddy on the discord! The Exalted eightbound will be 30 attacks with the eviscerators, not 36! sorry, i added an extra guy into that! Thank you Adam!

[@corvanphoenix]

Lol, yeah they're totally pussies! 😂

[@massbroffect572]

Super glad you made a video about this. I’ve been toying with trying a blood angels army that plays a similar style. Looking forward to the coaching call so you can tell me if I’m just trying to get to cute with this list construction or if it might have some play. With a bit of refinement of course. Great video brother

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Cheers my man! Excited to start working with you as well!

[@thomasfelsberg]

Thanks a lot, this is the first video I've seen in your channel and I learned a ton. I liked, subscribed and hit the bell. Thanks!

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Cheers buddy! Super thank you for the support :)

[@andysmith2235]

Ditto, just subscribed too, cheers huddy

[@artusyeddou5792]

Thank you mate ! Thx to you I won against world eaters with my tau even tho I did not have that much screens !

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

heck yeah! Well done

[@RunesonWargaming]

Yeah when I said I was excited about you making World Eaters videos this is not at all what I meant. Was really looking forward to you teaching people how to play well with them. Total bummer man. 😂

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Hahaha, stay tuned buddy

[@matts8023]

It worked! Played with blood angels and was able to kill first wave and angry Ron. Got tied up a lot (4th game in 20 years) but still won. It was pure mayhem.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Heck yeah man! Slaughter those red angels

[@joncroweucl]

Watching this as a World Eaters player to work out the counter to the counter for my faction 👹

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Perfect! I want these videos to always speak to both sides of the conversation!

[@Surkil]

against the orks a nice little double rhino shoot through the grechin line should open a big enough hole to move/charge through, against anything else, double charge -> wipe with A -> pile in B-> wipe again

[@kryzys5385]

@@Surkil U could also run 1 brigand.

[@Thegamerfailer]

Such good advice. Played against a world eaters guy and he conceded turn 2 after I wiped his 2 bezerker squads and half his eightbound which were still stuck in their deployment zone turn 2 after getting screened super hard by flayed ones. If you can screen effectively enough world eaters basically stand no chance and you feel kinda bad for stomping them so hard lol.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Cheers buddy! This game is all about controlling your opponents movement!

[@spencer6781]

great stuff, love that this is army agnostic advice

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Cheers my man :)

[@Bear_of_light26]

Overall, good accurate stuff, but its important to remember than Angron has fly on top of that insane movement and can move over enemy models straight into the back line. The WE player should be setting up to do that T2 if their opponent deploys well like this. Also that he gets beneficial measuring to go over terrain to reposition (albeit at the cost of his total distance) I definitely wouldnt consider the scenerio an auto win if the WE is aware of how strong Fly is on such a high movement model.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Thanks man, I appreciate the comment and it is a very good point. I would say because of the size of Angron's base it is fairly easy to screen that fly move though, because he still cannot land on top of a model, making it fairly easy to counter the counter as long as you have bodies. So challenging for custodes, not so much for orks

[@Bear_of_light26]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Orks do indeed have bodies lol. Just worth the mention though. Great video.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Cheers man! I definitely appreciate the thought! I learn a TON from reading these comments :)@@Bear_of_light26

[@OGXenos]

RIP Invocatus Fly lol Invocatus was so oddly broken Fly with 9th movement Ignores invulnerable saves Dude was crazy

[@artusyeddou5792]

Thx mate as a tau I gotta admit it was kinda needed to listen to this

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

cheers buddy!

[@khurdur2939]

very good advice; I play world eaters and a player who knows how to screen can be very tricky; Advice to WE players, you can just play objectives- throw out 2x squads of jackhals on the no-mans land objectives, in cover if possible, and maybe one more unit (cheapest, maybe even invocatus, on the other no man's land. With your movement you can make it. If he shoots, you are sticky (remember 1 cp all our units can become sticky). And then he has to get close to be charged by Angron, eightbound, etc. Also, don't skimp on rhinos; MoE and berzerkers charging out of it can go really far. It's tiny shooting can also help with screens ;)

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Great advice!

[@nuckythompson8041]

Awesome video. Question however: wouldn’t you need to be 4.1” behind your screen? Assuming the opponent gets his full 3” he can still end up within 1” of you and be in engagement range 🤔 or do I have it wrong?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Yeah i said it confusingly! I was going from the back of my own base, but yeah it would be 4.1 from the engagement of the enemy model!

[@PT84]

The orks matchup is tricky and whoever goes second has the advantage. Also a good WE player against a melee matchup will look at their opponents deployment to determine how exposed their army is. Most likely they will play for t2 and stage in a way to have multiple charging units with the understanding they will not use advance and charge. In melee matchups the fnp and fight on death blessing does a lot of work.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Try out the "moving bulwark" in a game. It is a nightmare for WE regardless of who goes first in the WE vs Orks matchup ;)

[@Skleor]

Isnt this an incentive for WE to get their own screening (jackals + prince, or allied hounds ?) or to get a minimal amount of shooting (vehicles I guess ?) to destroy opponent screens and then rush to murder later against melee opponents ?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

@@Skleor That would dramatically weaken their game plan over all i think

[@Skleor]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Just went back to the app to see it, obviously many answers are expensive, but pisnt a predator destructor for 130 pts a nice anti-screening units from a WE perspective ?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I mean its useful, but what do you drop? your eightbound? because then you lose an assault piece that gives your whole army rr ones to wound. You cant drop a character, do you drop the chaos spawn and the cultist? Then how are you holding objectives? I think it is just a matter of its super hard for them to prioritize that. The only shooting i have seen in WE that have seemed worth it is the dbl Khorne Lord of Skulls list led by angron.@@Skleor

[@user-bf7mj3bm7v]

Just for clarification wouldn’t you want to be 4.1inches away not 3.1? The enemy can consolidate 3in so they can still be within engagement range to tag you in close combat again? Is that correct?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Yeah i said it confusingly! I was going from the back of my own base, but yeah it would be 4.1 from the engagement of the enemy model!

[@Adrian-nv8qj]

This video was freakin awesome! Thank you for your content!

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

My pleasure! I am happy to keep it coming :)

[@TheYendukua]

What if they move and camp objectives and wait for you to react…?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

If you watch the video, i just then move the line and continue the same tactic, while getting myself in better positions :) While scoring better than they do

[@ButchersNailsEnjoyer]

I’ve been taking advantage of people thinking 40k is a primarily shooting game with my dark angels deathwing terminator army. Everyone expects you to bring the 1st company detachment, but I show up with stormlance and suddenly you have deathwing knights, bladeguard and thunderhammer terminators storming across the board

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

oooo interesting. fast termies is always exciting

[@anteas0184]

13:50 3,1" between screen and value units is insufficient to prevent Pile-In/Consolidate shenanigans, because the rules state that you only need to end the Pile -In/Consolidate closer to the closest enemy model and within enganement range to be able to Pile In/Consolidate (Base-to-Base is only required if possible to do so). That means you'll need more than 4" distance between screen and value unit so that even after the 3" Pile-In/Consolidate they'll be outside of engagement range and thus unable to Pile-In/Consolidate.

[@philskade9537]

Yeah I was pondering this. The flip side is a 4” gap between screen and unit behind is big enough for Angrons base to land on a charge right? So he could advance up and then target charge the unit behind the screen. So I guess it’s a case of lesser of 2 evils? I’m still a new player so I might be reading that wrong

[@88atahualpa]

as a WE player is nice to see the possible countermeasures to my army, but I am missing a point here, why should I charge your screens with anything bigger than 10 jakhals or 5 berzerkers (the 2nd one is already overkill against 10 gretchin or 4 sisters, probably) and prepare the board for turn 2-3-4? might be custodes-induced ptsd but I'd probably charge trajann's unit with something strong enough to force him pop his fight first ability and then stage a 2nd charge and try my luck with the moe on full zerkers hoping in an overwhelming number of devastating wounds, but I'd probably just ignore that brick and focus on primary/secondary while taking down the other units

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Hey buddy, you are correct! that is what you should do. But this video was teaching people how to counter the WE turn one, not teaching WE players how to play the game!

[@Chabot1801]

Me using Prince and Lord invocatus. "Hold up"

[@Adam_Skinner40K]

What the...???? As a WE player, why did you do this!!! 😂😂 all jokes aside, great content as per usual, would love to see more of this type against other factions. Thank you for making these video accessible to the community

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

:P haha, i will make a how to beat orks as well! It is my pleasure buddy! Thank you for your lovely support!

[@markheath465]

Any good world eater has the upside down to that. Screening only works if you don't have a turn 2.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I mean ive done it against alot of very good WE players haha. you have the exact same issue to deal with in turn two which is the point of the video

[@rhysanderson4639]

if you know your enemy as well as you know yourself you need not fear the result of a thousand battles - Sun Tzu (courtesy of a World Eaters player) BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[@FollowFowll]

Careful with 3.1 inch because he can grenade and go trought

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

well yes, but i get to control where i pull the models from, so its a fairly non concerning thing

[@fredguelen7630]

Nice nice A friend of mine play a good WE army, she wins a 5-0 tournament Her first line will be spawns (3x2) to clean the screens for so little points, and she keeps 5 8b squads, 20 zerks with kharn and a boosted moe and 1 of each juglords alone She just focus primary, and launch waves of crazy things in melee

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Sure, but if they are not bringing Angron you have a HUGE advantage! They no longer have a 22 inch guaranteed move that will wipe any unit it touches that will resurrect! So i think you are sitting pretty if there is no Angron!

[@fredguelen7630]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Angron is to expensive to be efficient Basically he charge a thing, kill it, and die. And the thing will cost far less, unless your opponent is bumb and offer his deathstar With the 440pts saved you can bring more and more 8bounds

[@sherrix6881]

Doesn’t sound like you play much mate.

[@fredguelen7630]

@@sherrix6881 certainly not as much as i liked, but she does. She ends 28 at the Warmaster, is part of WTC France team, member of a France first league team and win GTs. So i trust her on how to play her armies.

[@rakhaut3887]

Thank you for this!

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

my pleasure bud

[@pharaoh2426]

So all of this is well and good if the WEs have no shooting but KLOS blowing up all your chaff units completely kills this strategy

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

i mean sure.... but you use a different strategy if you are playing against one of the 3 people alive running Klos

[@yusie8306]

This video came just in time for me to play my WE friend

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

KRUMP!

[@yusie8306]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 was also wondering, do you think a Zodgrod 20 man squad of grots would be worth taking if I know I'm playing world eaters?

[@yusie8306]

my WE friend is underestimating the knowledge you bestowed onto me, and I must prove him wrong !

[@danielpaoli1093]

My first game in 10th edition was Thousand Sons (me) vs Custodes. And Custodes where so incredibly hard to deal with in general but they where even better once they got into melee. So I changed my main army to CSM. And I will say this. Being able to have Sustained & Lethal pretty much army wide on 5+ (because I use multiple Helbrutes) is so powerful. And on top of that Chaos Undivided units getting full re-rolls of Hit and wounds is nuts. Forgefiends being 180pts I would almost say is too cheap. Just in overwatch, mind you I had a Helbrute & Abaddon (full re-rolls to Hit, and both Lethal and Sustained) I had over 28 successful hits once you add in the additional sustain (to be fair, it was a unit of 24 Necrons, and I did roll way above average).

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

CSM is 100% the best army in the game, followed closely by eldar right now

[@woppowop7025]

Thanks mate 👍.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

My pleasure buddy! Thank you for the support!!

[@danhesketh]

Absolutely excellent video! Thank you so much (fellow 2d6 man here). What Space Marine detachment(s) would you recommend? I've got a 2000pt game vs Angron's boys next week, playing as a Dark Angels.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Hey my man! Cheers, i think space marines are in a cool place where you ca seriously play with 3 detachments. Ironstorm, Gladius, and Vanguard. Firestorm and stormlance are both close. So it really depends on your play style which you like. I personally am a big fan of either deathwatch. or blood angels/dark angels in an Ironstorm detachment

[@AncientIrishCelt]

Stop helping my friend (Black Templar player)

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

:P Now you know the counter to you better though!

[@AncientIrishCelt]

@Happykrumpinwargaming007 I do! Said friend linked me this video so I subbed!

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Oh cheers! Thanks for the support @@AncientIrishCelt

[@Makarislethal]

He didn't technically lose to W.E after this... He tied / draw* lol love it

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

:P

[@claydonia]

Much needed video!

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Glad i could deliver it for you!

[@marcialrodriguez6285]

you forgot the coherency with the second gretchin unit xD

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

i doubt it, time stamp though?

[@marcialrodriguez6285]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 20:21, that central unit

[@ButchersNailsEnjoyer]

World eaters player here: i love seeing the utter shock and fear on my opponents face when they see how far my army gets up the board turn 1 and then seeing em measure every single unit to make sure they’re out of their potential threat range 😂

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

hahaha the fear is real

[@michaelmartin9522]

Very helpful thank you

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

My pleasure buddy! Let me know if this wins you a game!

[@paulclifton9488]

Nice thoughts. Very much appreciated. One question though is how are you dealing with a couple of units of fights first zerkers? I usually run an armoured Guard company or hybrid guard or sent spam, but for the next tournament I'm planning on brining 18 Bullgryn, a Solar melee blob, a Straken melee blob, 30 Rough Riders, 9 Ogryn (3 in a Chimera), Gaunts Ghosts (who will negate the scout of the zerkers) and a few other units for a mass melee guard list, so this video has come at a very opportune time for me. The player who won the last local tournament is a WE player and always has 3 squads of zerkers (Kharne + 2 Executioners, so 2 squads have strikes first). It would be great to hear how to deal with them in combination with the above. On average, without Sustained or Lethal buffs and character support, Exalted Eightbound and Zerkers are only averaging 3 Bullgryn on the charge - but Bullgryn excel when they hit first by winning a war of attrition due to their durability, I don't ideally want to use them as the screen or speed bump.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Great timing for this question! Just released a video to solve this for you! kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2bOaZSEj7p1jNU

[@paulclifton9488]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Just watched it - great job. I hadn't been aware of the skipping the fights first during a pile in activation

[@Zolluns]

world eaters never lose khorne dos not care where the blood flow

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

:P There is a certain kind of army i enjoy hehehe

[@Zolluns]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 agreed

[@aaronshehter4073]

How to beat tyranids with orks ?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Hop in the members section and we will go in depth about it! I also have a battle report posted on my orks into our teams Tyranid player that might interest you! kzbin.info/www/bejne/npell3iop7acabM

[@Head2Body2Head]

Not sure what the counter attach is with guard when we don’t really have a melee unit that can counter charge and do any damage

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

horses or bullgryn, horses hit very hard for their points cost, bullgryn will kill 2-3 8B and then not die to the swing back

[@Head2Body2Head]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 thanks so much for the response. Wasn’t expecting it on your older video. Have a great day dude ❤️

[@BeginnerSam]

Great video!

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Thanks buddy!

[@polusx1063]

I did notice some issues with squads over 6 and unit coherency when it comes to the screens

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I mean its pretty easy to do, just have to be within 2 of 2

[@same.4064]

Thank you for your great videos; they are at the top!!! I'm going to do a tournament (my first) and I just received the lists and, obviously, there are WE. My question is the following : My opponent has 2 or even 3 Rhinos... and, during Shooting Phase, they can open a breach in my gretchin wall... how do I deal with that???

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Pop into the discord to ask these questions homie! I am super glad you are enjoying the videos :)

[@docwheeler5498]

How to beat the 2 LOS list?

[@effindave6909]

Wouldn't you need to be 4.1 inches back from your screens? I thought for the consolidate you only need to get within engagement range? Every model that moves must end closer to the closest enemy model, and in base-to-base contact with an enemy model if possible. The unit must end in Unit Coherency and within Engagement Range of at least one enemy unit if possible.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

4.1 from the front of a base yes, i was talking from the back of a base, i realized after i made the video that was confusing

[@effindave6909]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Ah gotcha, yeah that makes more sense.

[@katsastus]

What I saw was, "How to beat WEs on 1st round when opponent plays bad" How to play when they don't do stupid 1st turn charges?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

did you watch the video? Where i said, just keep the same shield up lol, score points make them waste their charge whether its on turn 1,2,3,4,5 it doesn't matter. eventually get shooting angles, or you make the charge

[@Entalpy]

If i played WE I would just kill your screen with some cheap units like bers on t1 and you will no longer have any chances to stop WE to eat your face, so you should have 2-3 waves of screen to feel save

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

haha, you can try that, other people have, it doesn't work my friend. I am still undefeated in that matchup up, best anyone has done has been take me to a draw with some wild dice. I have played this against several WTC and WTC alternate players. So i have not only taken it against easy people

[@northman9227]

exalted have 30 attack s15 ap3 d2 ? I miss something ? 5*4= 20 and the champion +6 = 26 for me, right ? same for S7 it's 5*6 = 30 not 36

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

correct me brah

[@northman9227]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 not bad the video stay good :)

[@Powaup]

Thanks for the tips! Just won my first game against WEs. I will say screening properly after moving up if you’re going first is a bit tough assuming you only have 5-man squads

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

different armies have different strategies, orks can do the moving bulwark, other armies have to modify!

[@massbroffect572]

. Also doesn’t the eversor also have free once person turn heroic or overwatch? You could potentially use that to defend one of your screens. He’d obviously take a beat down from angry Ron but the eversor might be able to take a healthy chunk out or wipe on a hot roll any 8 bound unit that tried getting to greedy on the turn 1 charge. with the anti keyword should be relatively effective right? Maybe there’s factors I’m not considering though

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

naaa thats a bad strategy, because the eightbound strike first, and would kill him as well

[@hellglaser3450]

I am a compete warhammer noob so dont mind me, what if the world eater player is focusing on deep striking instead of rushing out of the gate

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Then they probably just lose to be honest :) The problem with that is they allow the opponent to take the board and they will never get good positioning

[@IIIHUDSONIII-vf2no]

I didn’t think you could conga line models in a squad more than 10? Need to have two on each end making fall that screen a little smaller, or am I wrong?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I have within 2 of two at the ends, its measured on screen :)

[@piotrjeske4599]

What if you can't kill them in shoting or melee and the only screens can be units of 5 terminators? I don't think this tactic would work. I know that each unit of WE kills 5 5 terminators or 5 paladins

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Grey knights no this wont work. But with grey knights, 50% of your army is not on the board, and the first time he moves within 9 inches of you, you dissapear using mist of deimos silly bear

[@j0nb0y5]

Question: how do you beat them with GK? I can’t beat them with GK, I’ve watched KZbin videos nobody on KZbin beat them with GK????

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Its a pretty tuff matchup, but its doable. With 3 librarians and the mist of deimos + same turn rapid ingress truck, you can pull it off

[@j0nb0y5]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Update: wanted to share with you, I finally beat World Eaters. Not only did I beat them, but I tabled them in the fourth round.

[@jeenskappa]

noice ty

[@richcrichton9185]

Everyone assumes eightbound, and no shooting. I like to take at least one maulerfiend and 2 hellbrutes. And I'm afraid a squad of beast snaggas arent taking down Angron unless your dice are blessed

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

that is a mistake in list building my friend. On average a BB with no CP stacked into him will cause 6-8 Dev wounds to angron by himself. Then with cp he goes to 10-12. Fear the BB with snaggas

[@richcrichton9185]

Are you relying on 3/6 6s for the devs? As I said blessed dice. Plus with blessings fnp could shrug a few. Even if Charged Angron will live and sweep attack will kill majority if not all the mob. And therefore tie them up preventing the move second wave plan

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

No silly bear, I said on average, it’s anti vehicle/monster 4+. Which means he dev wounds you on a 4 not a 6

[@matthewheather6911]

two words: SCOUT JAIL gg ez clap

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

?

[@stevenburton7725]

Consolidating Angron forward is foolish. He kills the screen, and moves back onto the objective. You now have to do a lot to engage him, or you give up on trying to get the objective. He will move in and kill something else on the next turn. As a World Eaters player I will always say that the big charges are on turn 2, and you will have to deal with my Berzerkers and Jakhals if you want to try something funny like moving in on me. The only time I feel free to move up as hard as you have described is only against armies that have zero ability to strike back. If I fear losing a unit on turn one to opposing melee, then I wait for turn 2 when I can overwhelm my opponent

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

You are correct WE should go for turn wo, my video was to teach how to stop the turn one death star. Not to teach world eaters players how to play warhammer ;)

[@stevenburton7725]

⁠@@Happykrumpingwargaming007most of us that play competitively know that you are better off using Invocatus to boost your Berzerkers forward (or Jakhals if you are running the Daemon Prince). Then you can get the free kill with Angron, consolidate him back towards a central objective. If your opponent tries to move in to clear him out, punish them for consolidating their position. Deep Strike your Exalteds to kill their back line, swarm whatever you can, and continue to control the center objectives. Make sure that your opponents struggle to keep you in firing lanes, and punish them for trying to move up. Make them pay for every inch they try to gain. Always remember, much like Winter, Angron is always coming.

[@totallylegit4092]

You cant beat World Eaters. As long as blood flows, they win.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

hard to argue with that. When you are right, you are right!

[@Zakota330]

What's the best Ork counter for facing against Termies? SHB? BossSquigs?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Termies from what faction?

[@Zakota330]

Votann mostly@@Happykrumpingwargaming007

[@handlesarefuckingstupid]

Very handy! Had a very close game of Custodes against WE recently and was looking for things I could do better. Only won because angron couldn't kill his target t1, and I can't depend on luck saving me next time 😅

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Cheers buddy!

[@Mail99man]

It is only around 67% chance for advance ans charge base? I played around 8 games vs different WE players, and I have not seen one round where they didn’t had it, not one. But also, I won all games so far with csm and Tsons 😅

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Yeah base is 67% :) Lots of ways to boost it though

[@maaniisuperstar9321]

how do you handle the 'fight first' stuff from WE?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Master of executions? He is a video unto himself haha. but bsaically overwhelming shooting, or tagging him with trash and fighting the rest of the unit with your good stuff

[@FemurEaters]

As a WE player I would be overjoyed to see my opponent set up this defensively against me. I would definitely not bite on the screens with my expensive units and Angron like you're assuming. I would send my trash and Jugs to objectives to make you come take them and then get hit with everything turn 2/3. What you're saying works in theory but you are not representing an experienced WE player in your scenarios. Not hating by any means but as a WE watching this there are definitely counters to your strategy you are not accounting for

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

100% there are counters. A great WE player should be able to play around it. A medium player cannot. That being said i have smashed several WTC players using this. Pumba (captain of team poland) is one of only 2 WE matches i have lost, and he won simply by dice rolls according to him. The Strat works because it forces you as the WE player to react to me. Not the other way around :) Super appreciate your thoughts!

[@michaelmaddox2536]

Angron has Fly, bro...

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

still cannot land on top of models or within 1 inch of them lol. you just move block where he can land, its pretty easy

[@michaelmaddox2536]

@Happykrumpinwargaming007 ahh I think I see your point. I'm pretty new and I play Blood Angels so I don't have to deal with big bases.

[@RevJimmyluv]

Gretchin cannot be stretched in a straight line coherence. Any unit with 10 models MUST be in 2 inch coherence with 2 models.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Yeah lol, and they were within 2 inches of 2 models in the example. Looks again. they are on 24 mm bases. makes it super easy

[@RevJimmyluv]

If you say so.. purple ones, maybe, green ones... I must meet your tape measure..

[@benjaminwoodham6682]

A tsons player I guess I need to bring Tzangors. Damn. That's my least favorite unit in Tsons lol.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I dont think you do need to tbh. Just screen with your rhino's

[@brotherhoodz97]

what do i do when angron comes back for the 4th time?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Cry, or max assassinate/BID lol

[@brotherhoodz97]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 I shall commit suicide, understood.

[@TheXDesertfisch]

Thanks for the content! Not too big a fan of the sensationalist exaggerarions though

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Fair enough! Glad you enjoyed the video :)

[@SeanORiley720]

When every single thing you discuss is “very very strong” and “very very hard to deal with” and you do that little laugh after every single comment like it’s the coolest thing you make it so nothing is “smashing” or “terrifying.”😅😅😅

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@ColonelHoganStalag13]

I'm actually fine with World Eaters being a melee army. What I dislike is GW's attempts to circumvent game mechanics to sell figures. Let's be completely honest here and cut the BS, that's the only reason you give an army of heavily armored or otherwise big tough guys such swift movement that let's them bypass being shot at. Flip the tables for the moment and imagine I had some army that let me go first on every game so that I could dedicate shooting to high value targets and neutralize them before they could participate in the game. Would that seem fair and balanced to you? I can still recall playing 40k from the 1st edition as a kid. You had some crazy rules (or so it appeared back then) but over those years it became obvious the rules only served as a marketing gimmick for GW's sales figures. They screw up the game intentionally with imbalance so that it drives sales to the _good_ _stuff_ and they can then justify a new edition to tackle the problems they created. New edition means new codices and people spending more. If you refuse to believe that then you don't seem to understand that we're on 10th edition.... you mean it has taken 10 editions to try and get it right? No, it is just marketing. And as people buy into World Eaters or Eldar because they're winning right now, it will change and slide to someone else in time. If people are frequently losing to World Eaters than it isn't because World Eater players are particularly good or skilled. It is a pattern that's reflecting the marketing gimmick with GW's sales.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I completely disagree with you. WE only win crazily on a large scale when people blindly ignore their mechanisms and choose to only build to counter shooting. But thanks for your thoughts

[@Clatzy541]

Almost every player I fight against deployed super far back and if I get 1st turn I swarm the primary points and its already over basically. Don’t deploy super far back against world eaters it never ends well

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

100%, wise words

[@ZatoichiBlindSword]

Haha. "I screened and made it harder for W.E.". Never lose to World-Eaters again? I doubt that is 100% accurate for a video unless you win and then refuse w.e. games... vs a competent W.E. player? Yo're going to lose again eventually.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Lol obviously, have you met my friend youtube though? turns out people don't click on video's like "really good strategy against world eaters" And to answer your statement I am 16-2 into WE with that list/strategy. only lost to Pumba, the captain of team poland by 1 point, and Sacco (member of team france with a new list i ran) So its still preeeeety accurate

[@SeanORiley720]

Dude. You are talking so fast. I thought 100% that my KZbin was on 2x speed and couldn’t figure out what was going on lol. Slow down bro, you are talking incomprehensibly fast.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

ive got alot to say! Gotta git it out

[@fredguelen7630]

​@@Happykrumpingwargaming007naaa it's ok, you're good, a good grot needs not to waist the time of da master

[@Martin36544]

Can’t Angron just fly over your screening units?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

He still cannot land on a model, and the way i have him screened after his move he would need an 11 inch or so charge to make that happen in any scenario i have presented and would still have to be base to base with a screening unit which i am comfortable having die.... because it is a screening unit