How to appeal British ARMY Medical | Step by Step Guide

[@joshevans6985]

Thank you. My permanent rejection was turned into a 3 year deferral following these steps!!

[@foysrelaxation3760]

Very helpful video mate, the whole process wasn't explained very well by the recruitment centre over the phone, this video cleared everything up. Thanks for the help Kyle.

[@alishaleachmoseley1156]

I've been looking for a video like this for days

[@shwar6717]

Hi Kyle, I got made Permanently Medically Unfit due to having antibiotics for chest infections in the past. Am gutted seems unfair. Watching your video I got to have 2nd chance to appeal it's my last chance for it, I've been for a chest x-ray had my GP state I've got no medical conditions. I am stumped praying for the right decision. I've got a daughter on the way trying to forge a good career to support my family. Thanks for the advice It is great only one I found with really help.

[@KyleSmithFIT]

It sounds like you’ve done all the right things for your second appeal. Get as much medical evidence as possible, write your own cover letter explaining your side of the story and maybe add in why you want to join. Fingers crossed for you mate, sounds like you have a good chance to me.

[@HelloHiHowAreYou18493]

How’d it go mate?

[@marcuswitt3646]

Hi, I have had a similar case what Antibiotics did you have for you're chest infections and how many? Thanks

[@117zachbaker]

thank you so much for this video it helped loads. big respect💪💪

[@lee9650]

So I need a letter from my GP to tell the Army that I no longer have a condition (that was fabricated/innacuratly recorded by my GP) that I never had in the first place? I'm sorry but if GPs can't be trusted to recored records accurately in the first place why do they trust them with writing letters?

[@rowanbarnes648]

Hi Kyle, love the videos man very helpful indeed. Anyway I’ve just been rejected due to a on-going mild shellfish allergy, would this sort of thing be passable through the appeal process? Have you heard of any other mild food allergies cases that have gone through the RGMD process?

[@paigehodgkiss9607]

I just had my appeal overturned! I sent in a detailed, honest fitness plan/diary and I got private physio opinions, with a detailed review of my fitness and health (to do with a back injury I was discharged from basic training with in 2015) so worth putting the extra graft into it if you know you can do the phys

[@benphillips3280]

You may have just helped me massively. I was also discharged in 2014 for back pain. What did you do exactly?

[@paigehodgkiss9607]

@@benphillips3280 so I asked them what they wanted from me. They wanted all evidence from my docs as to how many occasions I had been seen for my back injury from discharge to date. I then kept a detailed exercise diary saying how much load carrying I've done/ cardio and how I felt on each day (any pain ect) I then went and saw a private physio for a full exam and they wrote me a report. I did a supervised "fitness test" with the physio and he based his report on my results. If you need any help with it. Let me know. My appeal ending up being 60 pages long😂

[@benphillips3280]

@@paigehodgkiss9607 Awsome. I only saw a GP once since I was discharged and that was very early in 2015. I have been training hard for the last 18 months with regular load carried but no diaries written up. Would you suggest starting to draw up a diary and would GPS watch activity history also be beneficial. I definitely think I could do with some more details of what else you included.

[@paigehodgkiss9607]

@@benphillips3280 because the injury is so old and you haven't seen anyone you might be okay! Start your diary ASAP and if you can back date it thats great too. Yeah GPS would be great, more information rather than less! No problem, I'll see if i can find my report from my physio to work out what he included!

[@benphillips3280]

@@paigehodgkiss9607 Thank you. Really appreciate your help.

[@tylercousins8177]

Hi I just had my optometrist report rejected because my eyesight is outside of the army’s eyesight requirement on the grounds of ESE being greater than -5 or 6.004. But my eyesight correction states I have 20/20 vision but I’m literally 1 point over the limit. Otherwise I’m physically fit and able to meet the training requirements as for the role I’m aiming for the REME as a fabricator. I really don’t see how the fact I have to wear glasses and my ESE is only 1 point over the limit I’m being rejected considering if someone joined with a similar problem but say they just fit within the limits they would get in even though if you take there glasses off the would be just as visually impaired as myself

[@kumikuisajeva2199]

Hey Kyle, I must thank you for this video it helped me to actually understand how to appeal. I've booked my appointment with GP and wrote a cover letter. i would really appreciate if you would be able to spare a minute to have a look at my cover letter and tell me if it is appropriate. Thank you so much in advance

[@nkotecha25]

Brilliant advice Kyle, thank you so much. I wouldn't have even considered a covering letter alongside the evidence, stating those things you talked about. The example you gave was spot on too. Thanks again, stay well and safe

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Thanks again! Good luck 🤞

[@nkotecha25]

@@KyleSmithFIT would I address the backing letter "Dear Sir/Ma'am"? And when they initially see your medical form and send the rejection, is that because the doctors at Lichfield just see certain conditions and that triggers the "rejection" category? Is it quite black-and-white at that stage? With the appeal, do doctors actually properly read what evidence you've sent in to counteract their decision?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@nkotecha25 yeah when you get rejected they don’t dig into your records, when you appeal they look further at the evidence. Yes they look at it properly when you appeal that’s why it takes around 4-6 weeks to get an answer. It’s all done on a case by case basis so if your evidence proves what you are saying and the GP has back it with evidence you will have a good shot of getting it overturned. Address it as you said 👍🏻

[@nkotecha25]

@@KyleSmithFIT great, thanks!

[@mikeryan2985]

Just happened to me with untrue information from my medical history, it's a kick in the balls but don't give up fight it and don't give up hope.

[@OliverThomas1877]

Same here, sadly you have to wait 2 yrs to be symptom free before they can consider you to join

[@benlatchford4285]

Hello Kyle, I applied to become an Officer and I was medically rejected due to a past ACL reconstruction, I understood that there could be a chancce that this would definitely be an issue. I went through the entire appeal process and did exactly what you have mentioned in your video before actually even coming across it. I got to the level 2 appeal and had evidence from my GP and even surgeon with X-rays, letters and other evidence that the surgery was a success and I had made a full recovery but none the less, this wasn't enough and I have set my views on a different future. But it still bugs me and I don't want to give up as I have been preparing physically and mentally for the past 4 years to join his majesty's armed forces. I even have proof of current serving members that have the same issue as I have but are deemed fit to serve. I'm a bit lost as I had originally intended for a career in the armed forces even if it was not starting out as an officer. Any feedback from you would be much appreciated, cheers.

[@KyleSmithFIT]

I’ve had ACL reconstruction my self mate, I would guess the reasoning behind the rejection is the strength of your artificial ACL is around 60% the strength of your original. They probably rejected you because there will be a high probability of it going again given the army training, weight carrying etc.

[@adrianrobinson920]

For those who don't know CAPITA grade's you based on the armed forces medical standards. If you are graded p8 (unfit for service) on medical condition that you were unaware about but not serious. Yes be honest, but be mindful your honesty can be a downfall over things you aren't aware or hasn't affected you in any way. The appeals are very lengthy and can take from a couple months to 3 years according to your medical history.

[@gamer264messi3]

Been waiting two months for and appeal was in the army doctor give me an epiPen and didn’t put it on my record. Had tonsillitis and they what did the doctor give you for treatment? I say he gave EpiPen they said well we’re gonna medically discharge you go out do your investigation and apply back with negative results which I did and here i am waiting two months for a reply from the army medical team you said it take up to 4-6 weeks

[@gemmarobinson4992]

Hi Kyle. My son has just been rejected on the basis of his ADHD. Reason given he needs to be symptom and treatment free for 12 months. He hasn’t taken medicine since aged 16, he’s now nearly 21. He did ask his GP to be referred for support for this back in March last year, although the GP did not do this until August which they put on his medical information record. We plan to speak to his GP asking for this information to be corrected and will send in his appeal. This referral was never followed up on as he changed his mind and felt he managed well daily without support. My question is how can we prove he’s ‘symptom’ free because this will never be the case with ADHD. It is something he’s grown with and manages. It does not impact on what he does, he lives independently and always worked without issues. It’s never stopped him from doing anything. In fact he can be more focused and driven because it. He manages his ADHD without medication and the structure of army life would be perfect for him. Can you offer any advice? Many thanks

[@KyleSmithFIT]

You need to speak with his GP and get him to write you a letter confirming what you have just said. This will then shorten his deferral till march if they accept it. I would also ask him to write you did not follow up with the referral, this may get the deferral removed completely but I very much doubt it. Also ask his doctor to write on the letter that he is symptom free, hopefully he can do this for you. This is probably the only way to confirm it. You could also require his GP to see a specialist to confirm he has no symptoms, but this would probably take a long time. Basically the GP needs to be on side and to write a really good letter, this will give him the best possible chance of getting things overturned. Hope this helps, good luck.

[@Edstrat]

I got rejected for a few things to do with mental health in 2009, 2012 and 2016. Im gonna appeal. Didn't think any issues that long ago would matter

[@HelloHiHowAreYou18493]

Probably be even harder now

[@jmedits1369]

Thanks for this, my doctor over diagnosed everything.

[@KyleSmithFIT]

No problem 👍🏻

[@jackr4697]

I was MD from ITC for a stress fracture in my hip in late 2017, reapplied in 2020 but was rejected, appealed but had no medical evidence to say I was medically fit, thinking of appealing again but get the medical evidence to say I’m fit

[@lee9650]

What if your GP refuses to write you a note because doing so would be affirming that they made a mistake? And when I ask for a second opinion (another appointment) they take it as, oh he doesn't trust us and seems anxious he must be suffering Generalised Anxiety Disorder and doesn't respond well to life's challenges. It's a joke! It's like being shat on from a great hight.

[@perkivatedd]

See a private psychiatrist and get them to write your note and in your appeal say how your gp was wrong

[@lee9650]

@@perkivatedd A private psychiatrist, now why do I feel as if that would cost thousands of pounds....

[@ReganJH2]

I was rejected today due to “2 year knee pain” well it turns out I had knee pain because I would go to work 6-2 come home and then play. My PlayStation for 12-15 hours and my legs would hurt from being sat in a chair all day. My knees are 1000% fine but the army have said I’m permanently unfit how bad do my chances look. Either way will still support the channel. Great video

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Sounds pretty bad mate but you can always try with a food doctors note stating the reason why your knees are hurting

[@ReganJH2]

@@KyleSmithFIT thanks

[@ReganJH2]

@@KyleSmithFIT just a quick follow up question does that mean I’ll also be declared unfit for the navy and RAF

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@ReganJH2 maybe not mate, definitely worth a try as it is not as arduous compared to the army

[@marcuswitt3646]

Hi Kyle. I’ve had a medical pass pre AC But they have said my condition might be flagged up at the AC and I might get rejected. What’s the best way of getting over this

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Go to assessment Centre smash it, down play the condition what ever it is, or try hide it. Apart from that there’s not much else you can do

[@jamde9420]

I had a depressive episode back when I was 13 (I’m 17 now and am applying when I’m in my 20s) due to some severe family problems and I had a couple self harm problems a couple years after but I haven’t had one since I was 15. Would they turn me away?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

I’m really not sure, they take everything on a case by case basis. Best off applying and seeing what happens.

[@marck9798]

damn i feel so lucky i passed today. the only thing they noted was a polyp i had 5 years ago 😮

[@HdClive25]

Do you send medical report from birth or maybe the past 5 or 10 years? As I’m confused as I don’t have records since birth

[@mr_mylunch6759]

I failed the online medical questionnaire but it hasn’t told me why i have failed

[@jackroberts2625]

Hi Kyle, I thank you for making this video, I got medically rejected today from the Army because I sustained a serious Labral Tear to my shoulder joint with also tendons being damaged causing my shoulder to continuously dislocate. However, I had a Shoulder surgery back in Dec 2020 and my shoulder has not dislocated ever since, even doing while doing a heavy contact sport such as Boxing. I know myself that my shoulder is back to a good level of strength now and was just wondering if you had any advice as to how I’d go about this appeal? Also, I was hoping of going into the PARAs and my best 2KM run time is 7 mins 21 sec with the entry requirement standard being 8 mins 15 sec. Do you reckon stating this in my appeal may help?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Umm well first go to the doctor and get him to write you a letter confirming what you have said, if you want to try and go a little further then ask if you can see a specialist to confirm you are back to full fitness. Yeah definitely the more information the better mate 👍🏻

[@Jude-s4k]

hey im in the process of my medical notes being viewed. They will probably be denied because first off I'm diagnosed with autism and adhd, but when I got diagnosed I went to the doctors with my mum and she has munchausens and basically she had me go to the doctors and act up and lie to them and gave me money in return, I was only young so I didnt see anything wrong witb it. So i got diagnosed with theses things at a young age and i honestly don't think i have them. If i get denied for them what would be the best course of action is there anyone in the army medical team i can tell about what my mum made me do (just to say she made me do it to be able to claim child's disability so she didn't have to work) I don't remember what she would have told me to do for the autism one because i was very very young but when i got diagnosed with adhd she told me smash the docters room up and she will buy me a ps4 I smashed the room up got diagnosed and got a ps4 but now being 18 I see how abusive that was but these things are still down on record plus additional things shes made up but im not sure whether they have been recorded or if the army would be able to see them. I really don't know what to do because I'm set on joining infantry but don't know where to start with undoing all the stuff shes messed up. Any help would be so appreciated. Thanks

[@nathanmason3501]

I failed my medical, they seem to think that I'm on prescribed medication for my IBS when I'm not. I can buy over the counter meds if I ever needed them but I never do. I also said I was on medication for anemia at the start of the year but that medication was only for 3 months then its sorted

[@Ll80972]

I get you mate most of the time it’s just from lack of nutrients from lack of food or fluids

[@ScotlandDroneImaging]

I tried in 2017, appealed once and took their word as final. I'm in the process of reapplying after seeing those with similar have been accepted. Ive contacted the unit to discuss further, going to gp and going to physio. Get the process going again.

[@misentewilfred4384]

Hi Four months ago i got diagnosed with Irritable bowel syndrome , but i was not given any medication. Will i get rejection.

[@kaylaSam5695]

Hi Kyle, I've been looking for a video like this because I've been rejected due to a different reason and I would like you to help me out on how to appeal my application.

[@jennifersosuligbidi3871]

Thank you so much!❤

[@jack6122]

Hi mate been deferred due to hearing in my left ear and high blood pressure all due to nerves I can get blood pressure tested easy but hearing is a long wait they said I can’t go to high street and need a gp referel to audiology do you think if I go private that will be fine

[@emmacarmody-q8s]

Hi Kyle, great video by the way. Someone I support has been denied on medical grounds for having a single seizure. There was no treatment or further episodes. He was intially passed and waiting to go for fitness tests and medicals up in Edinburgh. We are going to appeal this, what do you think the likely outcome is for this? Thanks

[@SamanthaSmith-zu7xh]

Hello Kyle, I’ve just put in an appeal due to being challenged as UNFIT, due to having anorexia in 2020. I have read their parliament page and looked online and I know my chances for this are extremely slim. But this is my dream so I’m not giving it up easily. I’m already waiting for an appointment with my GP to have them write a letter. I was wondering if there was any other advice that could help towards this?

[@365daysabroad]

thanks bro very helpful

[@kempstardelux]

Hi Kyle, First of all I just want to say thank you for posting this it has been a great help. I am currently assisting my son to appeal against his rejection in to Harrogate Army College due to him having Aspergers on his medical record which he was diagnosed at the age of 10 (now 16) We have had consultation with a private Clinical Psychologist to determine if my son still meets the Autism spectrum which they have concluded he does not (we have this in writing) we have been offered a full in depth diagnosis done if we want to strengthen our case but we are thinking of appealing just with the consultation letter, if this is not enough then we go for the full in depth diagnosis but on his rejection letter it says “this will be your only chance to appeal” - in your video you say mentioned that you have two chances to appeal? Can you confirm this or tell me how I find out for sure? Even the Army careers office weren’t sure? Thanks

[@samsara5214]

I imagine you may not see this as the video has been up for so long. I have a history of self harm and mental health issues from what i would consider a past life at this point. Its been years since ive struggled with anything mentally. Im currently focusing on finishing my degree (should be done by september) and then have been told to apply for the exemption once thats complete. My doctor has agreed to write a letter as soon as its required but ive decided it be best to get my degree finished and focus on improving my health. (Lost 4.5 stone in 4 weeks over christmas and maintained a healthy weight since) My main worry is sending the exemption and them still saying no . Would it be recommended to get a letter from a mental health nurse practitioner too as extra supporting evidence?

[@DH-yj7bx]

Hi Kyle, Thankyou for this video. I haven’t applied yet as I’m worried about committing and being rejected. I am a physio looking to apply for reserves. I also have ADD, I did 5 months off medication and did well as my routine is good nowadays. I am now taking medication again for the past week as I have some masters level exams coming up. It does not state adhd is an issue on army medical but RAF and Navy want you symptom and medication free for a long time. Is this the same in the army? Or are they more lenient? I feel like if I can just show them how good I am at work they would wave my issue but I feel I could not even get the chance

[@zazkareltrickshotting4785]

Hi Kyle, I was told I was medically unfit because I failed my hearing test at the assessment centre but I did another hearing test at an nhs audiology hospital and I passed it but they said the armies standard hearing test is more stringent even though my audiologist told me I was good.

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Umm, strange that mate. Maybe take your results from the nhs and post them in an appeal. You could have failed to army one for a few reasons…. Nerves would be the main reason and pressing to much due to that.

[@TomJoeSHOW]

Legend cheers for this !

[@KyleSmithFIT]

No problem mate, thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@jamesg3456]

new information. you can hammer Trenchard lines with any new information you have till you get bored or they concede. I'm a year post challenge appeal for PMU and have just been told to submit new information that I have...

[@jamesg3456]

to clarify, a challenge appeal is apparently an open-ended appeal you can keep submitting evidence to it...

[@Revival04]

Is this for all branches of the military and where would I contact?

[@paigetownsend1154]

Hi Kyle, I’ve been told I’m PMU to serve due to history of knee pain/physio appointments. Is it worth waiting 3 years; during that time I could build on my fitness and strengthen my knees and appeal again? The army is the only thing I’ve been set on joining.

[@TomasRighton]

I got rejected today due to history of migraines, ive been off medication for a while now but its saying i cannot join until 07/2026 because i have to be 2 years free of migraines and off migraines medication, i know i have had migraines in the past but two years is excessive is there any worth appealing it to get the term shortened? Or it wont work like that? Just asking for advice please

[@trainspotter0140]

Hi thanks for the video but on the bottom of me letter on the portal I have no address where I can send my information to

[@kwesikerr4242]

Hi mate applied as a royal marines reserve and got rejected and had to write a doctor appeal with a note. I have sent my appeal away in March 3rd and still waiting. My recruiter said it may take a while. Do u know how long it can take roughly? I really want this career but just frustrating waiting so long. Thanks

[@jrd69lol]

same thing here did you get in in the end?

[@chasebelcher7932]

I had a episode of depression going back 11 years ago lasting less then 12 months and under 3 separate times and nothing else in 11 years The doctors currently have my forms to fill out. I'm worried this will come back and bite me on the ass

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Ermm it’s hard to say since you were so young they might overlook it. Normally anymore than 2 separate episodes and it’s a no. Hopefully they see some sense and see it was so long ago it’s not even relevant anymore. Good luck 🤞

[@chasebelcher7932]

@@KyleSmithFIT this is what I'm hoping On the form itself it states "one episode of depression lasting more then 12 months or three or more separate episode of depression of any length" Two or more deliberate self harm of any type" and I got access to my GP records using the NHS app and checked them myself and I believe I fall under the maximum of what's stated but always a worry. Thanks for the video! Currently trying to join the rifles, interview Thursday!

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@chasebelcher7932 that’s good mate, good luck 🤞 Cool a couple of my learners have gone in to the rifles recently and seem to be enjoying it. all good with the fitness side ?

[@chasebelcher7932]

@@KyleSmithFITthanks I appreciate it. yea my mid thigh pull is 100kg. And my 2k is 9min 30. And 10.2 on beep test. I'm ready for it, Just need to wait for the doctor to do their part. I must admit though it's hard to keep motivated when I have this hovering over my head.

[@khadiece2939]

Did u get through?

[@jamesnorris4171]

Hi Kyle, great videos keep them coming! I'm currently trying to appeal against my medical as I have had an ACL knee reconstruction and have been told I can't join. Do you have any advice or know of anyone getting into the army with the same situation I'm in?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Hi mate, more videos dropping today. I have actually just had the same operation but I did mine as soon as I left the military. I do know of people that have had reconstruction of their ACL whilst serving but it’s different if you are already serving because they kinda have to look after you. All you can do is try to appeal, speak to your doctor, physio and get them to write you a letter saying you a fit and able to conduct any exercise. It maybe pretty tough as once you have torn the ACL and had reconstruction it’s never has strong as it initially is😓.

[@modelt1005]

Did you manage to appeal successfully?

[@skullcrusherv2259]

James did your appeal go through because im in the same situation with the ACL reconstruction and just wondering if u got through to ur training

[@harrywaddell7750]

Did you get through into training?

[@Connor-r2f]

I have 3 episodes of anxiety all from over 10 years ago, never any return trips to the GP in 10 years or symptoms etc etc, worth me putting in a appeal?

[@Ghostis]

Hi mate i have my application put on hold and im quite stuck at the moment tbh, i received this message ...We have not received all of your medical records which we requested from your GP. In order to proceed with your application, we would therefore require a copy of your entire medical record from your GP which must include all consultations, prescriptions, referrals, hospital letters and specialist correspondence. The thing is i havent ever really had any prescriptions etc or doctor consultations i never went as a kid or an adult so what should i do?

[@mimikyuhk9708]

Hi Kyle, thank you for your trips. I was rejected due to vision issues but I don’t need a glasses right now. Do you have any case that it is successful to appeal for vision problems?

[@aj9871]

I was rejected due too having hyperhidrosis do you think it’s worth trying too appeal or no

[@leilaashton2794]

Hi Kyle, had my application was rejected this morning due to an allergy to strawberries. and it also states in the thing they’ve gone off that they included is it may be further assessed if there is no/low medication, mild symptoms and no avoidance of allergen. I don’t need medication for it and have mild symptoms and just have to not eat raw strawberries, can eat processed etc. Is this worth appealing?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Yeah definitely, I would speak to your Gp see what they think and if they can get you in for an allergy test and get a backing letter to confirm what you said you will probably have a good chance of getting it overturned.

[@leilaashton2794]

Kyle Smith Thankyou so much! I just think because it doesn’t say severity of it etc on my records they’ve presumed it’s severe. Thanks for the quick reply

[@emilydarlison409]

Hello Kyle I was just wondering what form of letter due to the fact I have a summary would that be enough?

[@KyeStafford1]

Hi Kyle ! I have just had my application declined, saying this Candidates with two or more episodes of anxiety or with a longstanding history of panic or generalised anxiety disorder are UNFIT This was back in 2016 when my auntie passed away however this wasn’t anxiety but I did go to gp for this. Since then I have had nothing I’ve been more confident etc, can I still get this overturned ?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Yes mate, go to the doctors explain the situation and get him to write a letter send to is off to the address given.

[@KyeStafford1]

@@KyleSmithFIT Thank you mate ! So I have just rang them, I’ve got a phone conversation next Thursday to speak about it all, then I guess I will be booked in for a 1-1 or something like that

[@TheScouseParadox]

@@KyeStafford1 how did it go mate?

[@Lorenzo-cp7qs]

I’m going through the exact same thing.

[@Crxven]

@@Lorenzo-cp7qs how did it go ?

[@Sditchvampire]

Hey, Kyle. I today received my rejection due to a subtle scoliosis (that really is subtle as I didn’t know I even had it until last year. I’m an elite level amateur boxer and train at a high intensity twice a day and also receive funding in order that I can compete, so this is incredibly frustrating to me. What do you think my likelihood of success is in appealing? If you don’t mind me asking. Thanks.

[@emilydowns1190]

Hi there, I have just received rejection due to the same reason. I too am also a professional athlete with a high intensity of daily trainings -with Scoliosis never affecting my training nor lifestyle! Have you had any success on this matter? Thank you for the info!

[@richardadane3421]

Awesome video thanks 🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭

[@stephenrichards3231]

Hey Kyle, beautiful video. I got rejected for medical condition which was my hemoglobin that was at 41.6 and they say the normal range is 42. that was in November the 20th do you think it's to late for me to appeal ?

[@randomman5438]

I went to army assessment centre and passed all elements apart from the medical part. They deferred me on a 1 off mental health problem. I wasn’t rejected just deferred but they asked me to get a letter from the gp. Do I still have a chance to get in?

[@benphillips3280]

Yes, they want the GP to confirm you have only had one episode and nothing further.

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Sorry for the such a late reply, i must have missed this comment. Yes you can still get in, go to your doctors get a letter confirming it was one episode and you are in good health now. This should do it 💪🏻

[@iseenow747]

Hey Kyle I just got a message from my portal saying that I can’t join due to double vision and a squint I don’t have double vision anymore and my squint has massively improved said my optician is there somehere I could talk to you to ask more questions about appealing and do you recon I have a chance. Thanks.

[@AIRWOLF-l6g]

My situation I’m in the army atm however the messed up my medical and have to do it again. In my NHS record, I have a clean record however on my private record I saw a private doctor for counselling and he said I had anxiety and depression and suspected I had Asperger’s (never diagnosed with both NHS and private). He also gave me anti depressant’s. However I disagree with this private doctor and also, this happened once in 2017 when I was 17 years old (I’m 22 years old now) so this was over 5 years ago. I have no history of self harm or suicide attempts either and this was just the once. However my army doctor wants my private letters and god knows what they say. What should I do? At this point I have not failed or passed the medical

[@jayright1937]

Hi, I got rejected from the army due to a 'clear history of lower back pain with scatia pain.' From my memory I only had one well documented injury which was last year when I was lifting weights. I was lifting weights and felt a pull and had pain for 3-4 weeks. I had an MRI scan and all tests, they all came back clear. The pain cleared up and I have been fine since. I am a boxer and athlete, I train 6 days week, and have had no pain to the point that I had completely forgotten about it until the army brought it up. From a non-medical standpoint, what are my chances with the appeal? Also, can I email hyperlinks to video and pictures showing my physical capability, since I am a very fit person

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Go to your doctor mate, ask him if you have any other history of back pain other than the one you mentioned, if he says no get him to write you an appeal letter. You should be able to get it over turned if it’s just as you said.

[@findlaybridgewater4057]

Hello, I received a PMU 4 months ago for '4K.50.c. Candidates with any episode of chronic back pain lasting 12 weeks or more are normally UNFIT' (issue was over 5 years ago... so frustrating), there was no time frame mentioned in the original letter, so I've taken my time to build a strong appeal. It includes a doctors letter, the physiotherapist that treated me for the issue and a 13-week exercise diary. Regarding submitting my appeal I can't find the email address on the PMU letter, my exercise diary is an excel spreadsheet so this cannot be posted. Any advice? Thank you!

[@KyleSmithFIT]

It is normally at the bottom of your rejection letter mate, you can also speak to the careers office they should be able to get it for you. I would print your exercise diary off if possible to help you give more evidence.

[@findlaybridgewater4057]

@@KyleSmithFIT My exercise diary is on an excel spreadsheet so don't think it will be able to be printed as it's to large. Thus me trying to get the email to submit the appeal rather than sending it by post.

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@findlaybridgewater4057 oh ok, you can’t do that mate, not sure why it would make things a lot quicker and easier.

[@findlaybridgewater4057]

@@KyleSmithFIT Oh I had no idea it was mandatory to send by post and email ect wasn't an option, that's very annoying.

[@findlaybridgewater4057]

My appeal was upheld, therefore I can continue with my application!! Amazing news. If anyone is going through a similar appeal issue to mine, please get in contact.

[@alishaleachmoseley1156]

I was rejected because of a history of self harm and a history of gestational diabetes but I had a blood test the other day and it came back yesterday that I havnt got it But now I'm waiting for them to receive my medical records as they was lost in transition from my old dr

[@KyleSmithFIT]

That’s good news, hopefully you can the decision overturned. If you have history of self harm, 100% make sure you get your Dr to write a letter. Glad you enjoyed the video 👊

[@alishaleachmoseley1156]

@@KyleSmithFIT I've asked him to write it also I keep phoning up every day just to make sure he hasn't forgot I'm sure hes getting sick of seeing my number come up haha

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@alishaleachmoseley1156 that’s the best way, good luck 🤞

[@alishaleachmoseley1156]

@@KyleSmithFIT thank you much appreciated

[@WonGoose2]

@@alishaleachmoseley1156I’ve just been rejected over self harm in the past too did you manage to get this overturned I’m so disappointed I got rejected 😪

[@JD-gh4tr]

I got rejected last year because of my aspergers. I have a mild diagnosis and it does not affect my day to day life and my ability to perform at my job. I’m going to appeal this soon, what’s the best way to do this?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Go to your GP get him to write you a letter confirming what you just said. The Army are normally very strict on aspergers but, if you have trouble getting through the medical process i would definitely look at the Royal Navy, they seem to be more lenient.

[@JD-gh4tr]

August 2022 update: Passed the Royal Navy medical, onto the PJFT soon!

[@olivermaxey5338]

Hi Kyle, great video - thanks for posting. I have had ACL surgery and can't get past the initial medical screening questions on the application web page once I declare this previous injury. Is this even worth appealing or will it always be a P8L8 on the medical? Thank you

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Ummm, I’m not 100% sure mate. I know that ACL surgery never gives back 100% of the original ligament strength (had it myself). This maybe the reason why you cannot get past the initial stages, if I was you would just call your local armed forces careers office and see what they advice. To be brutal honest I don’t think you will be able to but still worth asking them careers office see what they say.

[@nxt_lee4700]

Hi Kyle, I have found out my medical has been rejected for multiple anxiety and panic episodes going just over 2 years ago now I am 16 now and better than ever and worked really hard to get myself in better shape mentally/physically.I am working on an appeal as I write this do you know the odds of it getting overturned?

[@constantinandries5705]

Hi @NxT_LEE , I am interested to know if you submitted your appeal, and how it went.

[@allisonandfamily]

Hello Kyle thank you for the video my son has been medically defered 2 weeks ago,we have tried to get a face to face appointment with GP but its virtually impossible at our surgery unless its an emergency,can we put that in the letter or is it a waste of time

[@KyleSmithFIT]

I’d say it’s a waste of time, the medical team at army selection are on gonna take notice if you’ve got medical evidence from your doctor to overturn the deferral

[@willsmith3202]

I used to have asthma haven’t touched a inhaler in years and today I received my decision today and it got rejected and now having issues with the doctor because I want to fight this

[@KyleSmithFIT]

ok, this is normally something quite easy to get overturned. Firstly have you been using an inhaler or been prescribed one over the last 2 years? If no, then all you require to do is go to your doctor and ask them to write you a letter confirming you have not suffered with any asthmatic problems since.... If the doctors are being a pain just keep on at them, they are required to do this for you, sometime you may have to pay a fee of like £15. If you have been using an inhaler, you need to go to your doctors and cancel the prescription and get him to write on your medical docs you no longer require it, from then you just need to wait for the deferral period which i am sure is 1 year now but maybe 2 years, this has just recently changed. hope this help.

[@jordanmccarthy3411]

Hi mate, I was recently deferred for further medical evidence, due to a broken leg and low mood, they sent me some forms asking for more information, but the only information I have is the one they have already received from my medical records from my GP. I’ve been honest on the forms stating the low mood was from a grandparent passing so it’s bereavement and my leg is good to go as I’ve got my surgeon (ex MO) to write me a letter. This isn’t an appeal but I’m unsure of what further medical evidence I can supply on the low mood front? I was medically discharged in 2020 after serving 6 years, due to my leg but that’s now been overturned and am able to join again but they still want further evidence? Any help would be much appreciated mate, Cheers

[@helenbeverley722]

Hi my daughter got medically discharged 5 weeks into her basic training at pirbright. They are now saying she should never have passed the very first assessment due to having hypermobility in her knees they go back 15 degrees. This is the first she heard of it never had any problems managed pt no problem even did fireman's lift no problem. Them went out on her first camp night and slipped on a stone they sent her to medical then that was it was sent home saying she couldn't do the tabbing because of the weight but that wasn't the case. Do you think she can appeal against this. Thank x

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Hi, yes she can appeal. Best of getting a doctors note backing your case to give you the best possible chance.

[@queennwachukwu168]

please if i do not hold unrestricted right of residency in UK, am my to get a visa but filling in the form or what do you think i should write there

[@benatkinson3367]

Hi mate, I’ve just failed because of an appointment about ocd back in 2014 however since then I’ve never taken meds or had any other meetings. Do you have any idea on how likely they are to expect the appeal

[@KyleSmithFIT]

If it was one incident I would definitely appeal mate you should get it over turned. Get the doctor to write you a good letter confirming it was a one off issue and that you have not been back since then.

[@swadub2700]

hello sir my family member was rejected as he explained that he may be allergic to shellfish however he never done a test for it and his never been to a gp due to reactions so should he ask his gp to make a letter sating that he's not medically diagnosed for allergy of shellfish and has no reactions ? or will he need to send an allergy test or just a letter from his doctor .

[@TokasaSmith]

May I ask if you’re able to speak your GP about this as my nephew had a similar rejection due to allergy. Just wonder how you go about this as there had been no medical records, is it just a test required?

[@theamerican3636]

I applied and was rejected for my autism I then sent in an appeal stating how low level it was and that a didn't need medication and had never been to the doctors since. The appeal worked and I moved forward to the in-depth medical review were I was rejected for the same thing. Meaning I now have to appeal again. Is this normal.

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Ermm yes and no. they may have just seen something on the detailed medical that concerns them too much, for that they have rejected you. It also could just be bad communication from them and they are just doing it as a precaution. The best thing to do is just to appeal it mate see what happens. Just to let you know the navy are more lenient with Autism. Maybe worth apply for them if you cannot get through the army application process.

[@theamerican3636]

@@KyleSmithFIT thanks ill try the navy as well

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@theamerican3636 good luck 👊

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@Clancy1999 normally takes 4-6 weeks mate. You should have had a notification saying they have received you documents/appeal.

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@Clancy1999 Yes that is probably the case. It normally says something along the lines of “we have received your appeal, you will be notified when a decision has been made”

[@silashudson4120]

Hi mate, im really wanting to join the para reserves I used to suffer from migraines when I was younger but didnt have them for years until I was in a car crash last year and got a migraine which my doctor prescribed meds for, I havent had one since but its putting me off attempting to join. Thanks

[@silashudson4120]

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[@LNUM2000]

Hello mate I applied to join the army in 2017 but got declined due to to history of asthma and I kinda just gave up that time didn’t even bother to appeal i also lost the appeal letter now I’m 21 and want to try again what do I do? I logged in to the British army portal first time since 2017 and got a message saying “This application is no longer active. If you wish to start a new application please click the "Switch Application" button above.” I’m pretty sure I can’t start a new application because I’m in their records as unfit what do I do?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Ok well just to let you know as long as you have been clear of asthma and you have no been using an inhaler or medication you can apply again. Best thing to do would be just to start a fresh application, as soon as you do that the local career office will contact you. Just follow what they say from there and when you get to the medical procedure just be ready to go to your doctors and get a letter about your asthma.

[@brontop]

Hi when I was a baby I had VSD (ventricular septal defect) and I had surgery to get it fixed in 2005 and then I also got a shock when I got told I had a past in asthma and I asked my mum and dad if I ever had asthma and they said I didn’t and my application got put on hold can I appeal for this or is it just going to get put on hold again?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Ermm yes however, I believe you just need to send further medical evidence that you are ok and good to go. Speak too your recruiter. If they say it is on hold for a year or two you can appeal this with further medical evidence also.

[@tommyanddaddy5958]

I received my message today that I failed my medical today due to my mental health (depression) now these are due to financial issues and being out of work for to long and the being in the army has been a dream of mine and I belive the army would help me with these things however would they possibly analyse that?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Yes mate, best thing to do is go and speak with your GP. If it was only one incident of bad mental health you have a good chance of getting it over turned. Get him to write you a letter and sent it off as an appeal.

[@tommyanddaddy5958]

Just out of curiosity what type of letter would I need my gp to write up?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@tommyanddaddy5958 basically confirming it was a one off isolated incident and you have been free from any medical conditions for a while.

[@tommyanddaddy5958]

Thank you mate

[@KxAndxer]

Hello Kyle, I tried joining the army twice, the second time I got Med discharged due to an old injury ( a small particle tear in my ACL ligament ) And the doctor deemed me unfit for deployment, I have to go through occupational health to appeal, I feel that it’s been unfair as the doctor put a bar on my rejoining. I don’t not suffer with pain or anything that stops me doing everything in fitness or weight. I can 100% carry out all military tasks without anything stopping me. Is there a way I can win against them or is it a no go? If you can help with some advice that would be great! I also haven’t had an op for it as I don’t need one

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Umm be very hard mate, I have also torn my ACL. The problem is when it’s torn it’s is never as strong or stable as it normally is. This will probably be the reason for the bar. Even if you got an operation like I did then knee is like 60% of its normal strength. If I was going to guess I would say it will be near enough impossible to get turned over mate. Sorry that I don’t have better news.

[@KxAndxer]

@@KyleSmithFIT thank you anyway mate, I appealed before and got a no, I guess if there was a chance I would have to go to multiple specialists to get examinations and letter etc, can’t even join reserves. Now worries it’s always worth a try!

[@oceanbeats4887]

Hi mate thanks for this video, I was rejected from the army due to “chronic anxiety” and given the option to appeal, March 2020 I went to my GP and told him that I thought I had anxiety and he referred me to a mental health team, they told me after 1 session that I would not Benefit from this and so I stopped using it. I don’t believe I have anxiety just low confidence and my GP has written in notes on my records that I believe this issue was due to low confidence not anxiety, currently waiting for him to write me a letter supporting the appeal this was the only time I had gone to the doctors about mental health, do you have an opinion on this ? Thanks

[@KyleSmithFIT]

In most cases if you just have one episode of poor mental health on your record the rejection can normally be overturned. Good luck mate, let me know how you get on 👊

[@oceanbeats4887]

@@KyleSmithFIT thanks mate, will do, great video explaining too👍

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@oceanbeats4887 thanks 👍🏻

[@callumbalzaretti629]

@@oceanbeats4887 how did it go

[@callumbalzaretti629]

Hi mate just wondering as I’ve just been To the assessment centre and passed everything except the medical history so I’m hoping to get that overturned if I get this overturned will I have to go and do that all agian or will I start basic as I was supposed to start next month and I’ve been left really confused

[@KyleSmithFIT]

No you should not have to go back, most of the time they just want to see further medical evidence to prove you are ok. If it was something really bad they would not have let you complete all the physical tests. Get yourself to the doctors and get it sent off as soon as possible.

[@dang7096]

i got rejected beacaue i said ive used an epipen but that was 16 years ago

[@thomasgreenhalgh8071]

Hi Kyle , just a question about the medical at the assessment centre my assessment is on Tuesday but what happens if I fail something on the medical and not even get a chance at the fitness tests ?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

You will get deferred or rejected depending on what the medical issue is. If you get deferred it will be a case of going back at a later date. For some medical Issues you maybe able to go ahead with the fitness test.

[@JohnMarcusDraper]

can i join the British Army if i got special needs learning Disability ?

[@HaroldAceveda]

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[@zerosplashy9284]

How long does it take medical appeal to come back after being sent

[@vidzzz7865]

hi mate just got the message in my portal ive been clear of asthma for four years should i be sound

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Yeah, you will have to do a spiro test as part of your medical though. 👍🏻

[@vidzzz7865]

Cheers 💪🏾

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Yeah, you will have to do a spiro test as part of your medical though. 👍🏻

[@jamesgreenwood8728]

Just an FYI for people if you are still unsuccessful at level 2 or are informed you are unable to Appeal further but still believe the outcome is wrong you can send a complaint to [e-mail] which is the only further opportunity you have to get it looked at again. But like my man in the vid says you need to self assess honestly it's not for people who just don't like the outcome.

[@KyleSmithFIT]

thanks mate, just seen this comment. Good information, i was not aware of this.

[@jamesgreenwood8728]

Mate the recruiting helpline guard it like a state secret... 🤣

[@chalky1take]

Eyesights was just out eyesight requirements but with glasses i can see perfectly fine, i believe i can appeal this or atleast give them a warning when they do receive my eyesight results for the second time on a second application. I’m assuming i can tell my optician to tell them, although my eyesight requirements are out i am fully capable of performing in the military with no problems

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Yeah mate normally if it can be corrected by glasses you will be ok

[@chalky1take]

@@KyleSmithFIT okay i’m applying for a second time to be a paratrooper, shall i make it known on the opticians eyesight results for me that i can see fine WITH glasses so there’s no reason not to

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@chalky1take yes mate, the more information the better 👍🏻👍🏻

[@chalky1take]

@@KyleSmithFIT You’ve just reassured me so much, im gonna start my appeal as soon as possible. Thank you matw, this is all over ever wanted to do, you’ve helped tons

[@iseenow747]

@@chalky1take how’d it go

[@Pickleponedle]

Hi Kyle, I am 16 and failed the medical on my application. I failed on the basis of previously attempting to take my life. I took an overdose but didn’t go through with it fully and got medical help before I did any serious damage. I attempted because I was scared of people finding out about my sexuality. I’m out to people now and have been in a great mental state since and taking my life hasn’t crossed my mind since. I don’t have any mental health conditions and I have never taken anything for my mental health. Do you think i would be able to appeal this with a letter from my gp ?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Hi, yes I think it will. This would class as one incident of “poor mental” as they call it. Get your GP to write you a letter confirming what you have said, I would get them to explain the situation you were going through, with a good letter you should be good 👍🏻 Let me know how you get on. Hope this helps and good luck 👊🏻

[@Pickleponedle]

@@KyleSmithFIT hi Kyle, on Friday I received a text saying they had my appeals letter and would get back to me asap. Do you know how long it usually takes to get a reply back ?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@Pickleponedle normally a couple of weeks, sometimes can be up to 4 weeks

[@craigpd1]

When you appeal a decision and send off all your medical forms appealing it.who looks at the new information? When I got rejected it said a senior clinician had looked and decided,is that a doctor?,will it be a senior clinician again that reviews the appeal.thanks

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Yes that is the Dr. It will be the same people again I believe.

[@mparr271]

I got medically rejected at 15 for having light asthma about 4-5 years ago and haven’t had any problems since I’m submitting my appeal soon any tips on what it should include. Cheers

[@rinorf6539]

Hey mate what was the outcome of this

[@GodsAssassin]

Hey buddy I tried to apply to the British army 2 to 3 years ago. I had a medical triage call I said in the call that I do not drink cow milk and opt to drink almond milk. I was medically deemed unfit as they misdiagnosed me as having lactose intolerance. I appealed once and they said that they wanted a lead clinicians report. I have got a letter from the lead clinician rather than a report because the clinician stated that I didn't need to gain a report. Do you think its worth me sending his statement off?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Hi, if the letter states you do not have lactose intolerance i would definitely send it off. Anything you think may help your case or you think is important they know, then it's always worth sending off.

[@c_ray4850]

I got refused from the army because when I was 3 year old I was on oral steroids it’s stupid stuff like that

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Go to the GP and ask for them to write you an appeal letter. This should be over turned, very stupid for rejecting you 👍🏻

[@100missouri3]

Hey mate I have 2 questions. Say I was misdiagnosed with aspergers and I went to get retested, would it be safer to go through this appeal process or just go through the regular application process? Also if I get rejected from the army could I still join the navy and volunteer for something like STA despite being rejected from the army?

[@jackmcmillan-pb3zo]

Has it been overturned, I'm in the exact same situation.

[@100missouri3]

@@jackmcmillan-pb3zo I haven’t started the recruitment process at all yet, if that’s what you mean? Sorry can’t give you an answer there.

[@Kacy-Jo]

This video helped so much ❤ thanks.... now breath lol x

[@Pubg_Abbas_T61a5]

What happens after your GP types the letter do we have to post it or does it go to the army straight away anyways?

[@KyleSmithFIT]

You have to post it mate, there is an address on your portal message which states you are rejected.

[@leahduffy8458]

Would I have a better chance of passing the medical if I got a letter clearing me before I apply and send it off with my medical information when I send in my application

[@KyleSmithFIT]

No, i would not do this. You might not even get picked up on the medical. This is also not really an option, they want you to go through the application process the same as everyone else however, if you do think you are going to get picked up for some thing you can start to plan and get evidence. When you get deferred or rejected, you can send it off straight away and this will save probably a couple of weeks of your time 👍🏻

[@craigypd]

Hi kyle,iv got together all necessary paperwork ready to send off for appeal, would you recommend writing a cover letter also? If so would it just be to give your appeal reason? Thanks

[@KyleSmithFIT]

Yeah mate, just give you reason of appeal and give them a reasons why you think they should consider.

[@owen_jm4805]

So 5 years ago i had fractured my skull and that it would normally be graded as P8 but they put it down for a P2 for neurological reasons and that the army had deferred me for that and told me to to reapply/appeal it no earlier than 20th june 2021 but i have not suffered no problem within the 5 yrs

[@KyleSmithFIT]

That’s good then mate, reapply, go through the medical process and if they defer you go to your doctor and get medical evidence that it has caused you no problems at all. Hopefully should get it overturned, get your doctor to write you a good letter 👍🏻

[@owen_jm4805]

@@KyleSmithFIT thank you mate i went to my doctors to get them to prove i have had no problems since but im having to wait 3-4 weeks for the doctors to give me the record to prove it but im just having abit of a problem with thinking how to start the letter process on my side

[@KyleSmithFIT]

@@owen_jm4805 it doesn’t need to be anything fancy, the doctors note is the important part. Just start with…. Dear Sir/Ma’am I am wish you appeal the decision made against my military application, I believe i am fully fit and this decision is incorrect because……(tell them why you think the decision is wrong) Then just finish it off, make sure your candidate reference number is on the letter, it will be something like 200000345678. Hope this helps 👍🏻

[@owen_jm4805]

@@KyleSmithFIT okay thank you very much