How to Beat PYRA & MYTHRA in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

[@TravPlay]

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[@lilyphilip8072]

Your forgetting foresight

[@mohamedbelbaali659]

"Don't get hit" wow thanks man

[@Rafa-RaF4]

“Don’t get hit” Wow, very very useful information! Definitely not useless and annoying as hell!

[@linkonedgell894]

Yeah, I stopped watching the second I heard that. I was already suspicious because of how obvious the information he was giving was, then he proved that he has no idea what he's doing.

[@funguslemon]

@@linkonedgell894 its an inside joke on the channel

[@FelipeKana1]

Pyra ain't as slow as she should be, considering all that k.o. power

[@muglokdecrepitus1301]

In the 5 slowest character and characters like captain falco, bowser or bayleth have the same or more KO power and Ganondorf have less end lag and more power

[@FelipeKana1]

@@muglokdecrepitus1301 not true at all. If you didn't understood, I was talking about frame data, not actual movement speed. (Obviously) Pyra has barely any cooldown lag. Completely different from Ganon, yet she hits nearly as hard. Bowser also has tons of lag in many moves. Captain Falcon also doesn't hits that hard, only a few of his moves kill, he is a combo heavy character. Pyra can combo too but kills much earlier. Most of her moves kill very early and barely any of them can be punished.

[@ReaperOnRepo]

@@muglokdecrepitus1301 bro...no no no lol. Pyra aerials don't give a f about being slow

[@muglokdecrepitus1301]

@@ReaperOnRepo Well, like the other slow characters that I mentioned

[@ReaperOnRepo]

@@muglokdecrepitus1301 ah I understand what you meant now.

[@123aic]

“Projectiles can give pyra/mythra a hard time.” Foresight: am I a joke to you?

[@iMacho1300]

“Projectiles can give pyra/mythra a hard time.” X to Doubt

[@shadowangel8235]

me who uses link: yes, yes u r

[@ordinarylittlebastard3248]

You think that if Young Link or Samus start spamming that Mythra will time her perfect dodge every single time?

[@doomslayer8431]

Lxl I main Link and it’s one of his worst matchups

[@lashen4129]

@@doomslayer8431 fighting pythra just isn’t fun period, no matter what character you are using

[@FelipeKana1]

Pyra's up b' landing hitbox is as big as that one from Terry (the one he gets only after 100% damage and must be done with proper inputs... Yeahhh... And they say they aren't broken)

[@elvolta6]

You mean power geyser? I didn’t know that. I don’t know why fighters are getting explosion attacks that huge. I think it’s incredibly unfair because your opponent can just sit there & spam. No skill at all.

[@FelipeKana1]

@@elvolta6 I get your point. And yes, Pyras are spamming that up b like there's no tomorrow. Terry, though, can't spam that much. Too much lag and harder inputs

[@Arc_Viper]

As I pyra main I rarely ever use up B because if you are going up against anybody that remotely knows what they are doing it is so easy to read and punish

[@monkeyboygchannel6985]

I hated these characters due to how broken they are, and how powerful they are

[@Renji287]

me too

[@DECimotA]

Same. I play with a friend all the time who’s already better than me, and now they’re maining Pyra and Mythra, which is because they actually played and like Xenoblade Chronicles 2, not just because they want to play a top tier. Doesn’t make it any less annoying though, and now I rarely win.

[@thenthefuture]

I am very disappointed because I am a mario main and they are Sword characters with Moves that have higher chances KILL at 60%! I want nerfs or buffs for characters again.

[@monkeyboygchannel6985]

@@thenthefuture I main Luigi, and if im at 30 to 40% at the edge of the stage, im dead due to how Pyra's broken fsmash or side smash

[@thenthefuture]

@@monkeyboygchannel6985 If there was 1 thing I would nerf, It would first be her F- smash, Most characters can't kill with F-smash at super low percent's (Maybe all but I mostly only know Mario)

[@irohdw6055]

I strongly disagree with the argument that Mythra has poor disadvantage and struggles with zoners. Her exceptional mobility lets her close the distance very quickly and punish projectile use. Foresight is very effective on projectiles and lets her get a BIG punish even on Young Link, who has extremely safe projectiles. Mythra has these options for escaping disadvantage: 1. Mythra's Foresight activates on frame 2, so she can escape combos with it and turn the tables on her attacker. 2. Her top 10 airspeed and average air acceleration let her drift away quickly from attacks. 3. Her air dodge has the 2nd best distance in the game. It is 1 unit worse than Ness/Lucas and 4 units (20%) better than most characters. 4. Her switch mechanic allows her to get intangibility multiple times in a row while in the air, and switching changes her fall speed, which can mess with timing attacks against her. These options give Mythra plenty of options for escaping disadvantage that few, if any other characters have. Also, Pyra Fthrow may not kill early, but it does send people offstage very effectively, which allows her to kill with an aerial. Therefore, Pyra's grab should be respected at high percents if she is facing the edge. Having said that, I do agree that Mythra's grab is TERRIBLE for getting kills. One weakness that they both have that isn't mentioned is that most of their attacks (other than smashes and specials) don't have many active frames. This can easily make them whiff moves and get punished. It should be mentioned that Pyra's Dair MUST be respected. It is massive, has a generous spike hitbox, and combos into upsmash, upair, and Fsmash, giving it a MASSIVE kill window.

[@FelipeKana1]

Great points

[@alisaforster28691]

i play mii swordie which almost is the same playstyle as young link and i noticed i have much less problems with mythra as pyra. mythra's aerilals almost always lose to that tornado attack, but pyra for some reason was insufferable. just lost like 15 times in a row to a t bagger in elite. im so pissed at this character. this time they messed up seriously

[@Mayachrite]

Some people buy pyra and mythra and just spam the most annoying and powerful moves

[@flashlife8256]

so basically this character has everything every other character has, just better. but, yeah she's totally balanced. ok

[@barthvader4316]

That 5 dollar power

[@Avaitor_YT]

She's 5 dollars above the rest.

[@indigothecrow]

Except recovery

[@familyaccountgilbert7781]

Pyra is only in the game because she's Sakurai's waifu change my mind

[@Rqblt]

no she’s sakurai’s side girl kirby is his waifu

[@Shibatsukiyomi3]

@@Rqblt no dedede is waifu

[@Rqblt]

@@yinja3406 yeah but u know what i mean

[@sleepingkirbs9949]

This was worth the 2 hours of me typing to see a well thought out guide.Amazing work yet again Trav!

[@TravPlay]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@sticketyknony6606]

I searched for ages to

[@Growmetheus]

Me: how do i even hit them? The entire video: RUN AWAY

[@scopicaplays]

Dark Pit main here, and lemme just say Mythra's recovery is so fun to reflect because I think it's guaranteed a hit.

[@raingraver5892]

I know people always say the newcomer is broken even when they're not, but seriously. They've gone a little too far with Mythra I think.

[@FelipeKana1]

Yes they went. Usually we fear the newcomer is broken after we see the reveal trailer, before the actual release. When they come out we usually see that our fears were mistaken. This time, tough, its the opposite. They didn't look like that much powerful in the reveal neither in the showcase. But playing against them had shown us reason for the first claims that they're broken

[@alisaforster28691]

yes. its so annoying. i dont know why they just did not implement insta win on 1 button press. this is not even funny anymore.

[@adriandelapaz5754]

@@alisaforster28691 like hero?

[@Emeren05]

@@adriandelapaz5754 yes but that one is rng dependant

[@redshepherd32]

​@@adriandelapaz5754 hero normals have below average frame data and not the best recovery on said moves. mytha gets amazing frame data. pyra gets good recovery on her end frames. Even on moves that kill at 60-70. There far worse than hero.

[@Augoeides32]

I already know how to beat for Pyra & Mythra. I involves a lot of up and down strokes.

[@justicetaylor3050]

Basically you have to respect all their normal moves. Last time I beat a Mythra as Samus, I repeatedly got lucky guessing she'd jump and I caught her with forward air.

[@CipherKnighto]

Ironic how Link’s worst matchup is either these two or Lucina now

[@TravPlay]

I'll take on Lucina over Aegis any day. They are very hard to beat with Link.

[@CipherKnighto]

@@TravPlay I understand. I think so too tbh, it’s just that some other really good Link main claimed it was Lucina but I feel like Mythra blitzes way too much for it to still be her

[@A_very_creative_Youtube_alias]

Just one thing for every casual, both chars have a confirm with backthrow if they want to use their final smash wich can kill you at the ledge at zero, so don’t get grabbed at the ledge if you’re playing with final smash

[@shuumatsunojoshua]

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[@TravPlay]

Aww shucks

[@Ivylover5880]

@@TravPlay You deserve it my dude, you made an entire playlist for how to beat every character for the road to Elite Smash. Not many can say that.

[@Tomi-berry]

Dude when you asked me to subscribe I didn’t, but after you said “you guys are awesome” that brought a genuine smile to my face, so thanks man. I subbed 👍🏾❤️

[@TravPlay]

You're awesome 😎

[@iech0526]

I think the foresight ability alone is enough to say Mythra is broken. Pro players are just gonna pick or ban this character because there's no counterplay to that ability and especially at the pro level where every moment is important, slowing the opponent down with that ability can win/break a game. Pyra just seems obnoxious. But I agree that overall, since they can switch so quickly and easily on stage, it seems like an op character that will likely be #1 in the tier list in smash soon.

[@juniper6069]

Thank you so much I’ve been getting rocked by this character for the last week and it’s been killing me

[@Ch3ato]

6:04 "keep your distance and you should easily avoid this move and punish" *fails to punish blatantly*

[@davidhim3527]

What I learned: Be afraid of everything and don't get hit by anything

[@octoling6479]

Pyra & Mythra are pretty much broken. I hope Ultimate doesn’t end like smash 4 did with Bayonetta.

[@FelipeKana1]

If they don't fix them, and by that I mean "change them A LOT", we are already going down that road. People are still learning to play them and they're already a pain in the ass. Imagine when top players start getting championships with them

[@iMacho1300]

They have too many additional hitboxes man! It's insane! And difficult to approach. As a Cloud main I still find it difficult to face against them because they out range him too much!

[@PurposeDriven7_]

When pyra/Mythra can hit a *true* 0-death combo like smash 4 bayo can and has a counter that can last about ten seconds for free combo strings let me know. Even her forsight only allows for a quick punish.They have clear beatable weaknesses. Smash 4 bayo did not.

[@blazinvireo]

They need to release a new dlc character that can counter her attacks to even everything out..

[@manbatmiso]

Oof

[@jurassicking101.4]

Pyra/Mythra are the worst characters ever.

[@Additive_PE]

Thanks for mentioning the infinite, not many people know they can tech footstools (Thank god it's not a true infinite)

[@TravPlay]

Yes, I'm glad it's not true.

[@FelipeKana1]

That side b alone is a pain.

[@redshepherd32]

the side b is dumb for a lot of reasons. one being they can just run away or move into a better position. Even if you shield the whole thing. If they weren't pay to win or come back in a future game. I guarantee pyra would remain rooted when throwing the blade. That would make punishing her far easier and would force them to not keep spamming it.

[@cycluscaelum7830]

I really hate the fact that Mythra nair is way to fast, with a big hitbox that even covers her whole body while Pit's are literally just four small circles that don't even cover the animation 🙄

[@s.a.k.i7768]

Yeah it hurts being a Pit main😞,if it wasn’t enough...

[@PurposeDriven7_]

Palus nair, Ike’s nair, shulks nair, this ain’t exclusive to dlc

[@cycluscaelum7830]

@@PurposeDriven7_ Yes but they don't come out as quick and even tho their hitbox are big (still it won't cover their WHOLE body) the move still has either end lag or startup lag unlike Mythra.

[@namecannotbeblank8920]

My little brother, 13 years younger than me has been kicking my ass so hard that I'm watching this now 😂

[@Omnicharlizard]

It sounds like “food on edge” 😂😂

[@aceofclubskid]

The fact she has hitboxes that last seconds, do a ton of damage, and there's basically no ending lag is absolutely ridiculous. Between the crappy online play and stupidly gimmicky characters, I've basically stopped playing this game.

[@ratsoup3823]

Thank god for dis

[@alandunaway3000]

3:35's charge can be interrupted by a simple punch. If not charged, you can block it with your shield. Both are tested to work.

[@ohshadows3882]

Yes!! I thought I was gonna wait forever for this but thank you🙏🏻 I have a friendly tourney today and most people are picking Pyra/mythra

[@TravPlay]

Good luck!

[@soweey2428]

I love these how to beat guides

[@Lorn8791]

I find Link to be one of the better matchups against Pyra/Mythra. While you're never going to fully keep either of them away, you can rack up the damage on Mythra, force a change to Pyra, then hold shield to hit Pyra with an up special when she bashes against your shield. It also works on Mythra to a lesser degree since her moves can still come out faster. Another option with Link specifically, is to use the bomb to punish Prominence Revolt.

[@Lorn8791]

@Michael Barefield Have you tried playing Terry?

[@Lorn8791]

@Michael Barefield Then you assuredly have the Links, Zelda, the Samus', Fox/Falco/Wolf, and Pikachu. All of which have excellent match ups with Pyra/Mythra if you know what you're doing, and more importantly what Pyra/Mythra want to try to do and how to counter that.

[@Snowifying]

(as an IC Wi-Fi main) I hope my struggle is that "I don't know how to fight them that well yet, but sooner or later they'll be way easier."

[@cooldawg5575]

The sword is named aegis. THEY are the aegis Blades are a term for the characters in xenoblade 2 with core crystals

[@LuWeegee.]

Yes! Pyra side B will only be a little bit traumatizing now!

[@junlexip9204]

All this are fine tips but if you are playing online and you can’t swap characters to counter them, you are screwed. For example if you choose an all rounder and you find them online, 2 of your tips to fight them can’t even be used.

[@adriandelapaz5754]

I just discover any character with counter and proyectil can beat her, like K.Rool, Lucario Greninja or Joker somthing can avoid close combat an counter fast Attack on the other side heavy brawlers like kong, bowser ganondorf or ddd are gonna get an a horrible time trying to beat her

[@gombockie2068]

Flamenova shouldve gotten more end lag. Its free to use and nearly impossible to punish after

[@quive5705]

why the hell are there already 2 dislikes..?

[@monkeyboygchannel6985]

Who knows

[@insvil8783]

they're from pyra/mythra mains

[@cem3116]

pyra and mythra feel like smash 4 bayo

[@donauprofi8280]

wow! As a DK main this video didn't help at all! Thanks!

[@gatoradeee]

So broken. PAY 2 WIN

[@insanen3rd212]

Next video: How to Beat WALUIGI in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

[@FelipeKana1]

Let's not get our hopes up too much. Sakurai really doesn't care for non-Japanese audiences

[@captainbadge0072]

This was incredibly helpful thank you so much! You definitely deserve more subs for these amazing videos

[@TravPlay]

Thanks!

[@CindyandSuzie]

Hehe funy pyra up b go brrrrr

[@FelipeKana1]

"gg gottem"

[@romacalor]

watching this literally 15 mintues before i fight one in a tournament uh oh

[@protobuster12]

Rule 1 of anime characters: yell the name of the move you perform every fricken time you use it

[@hikimorisann]

I fuckin hate chars like this

[@Kikonut15]

haha yes

[@humboldt276]

I knew I had a feeling these two were a counterpick to Lucas

[@ignazioacerenza9881]

How to beat Pyra and Mythra = make sure you disconnect whenever she lands a killing blow so she doesn't get any gsp and is discouraged from playing her broken ass again.

[@massilyar341]

I’ll sure have fun destroying pyra and mythra with sonic

[@SCI-FIWIZARDMAN]

When the best and only real advice on how to get around a character’s powerful attacks is “Just try not to get hit”, that’s how you know the character is busted.

[@moonwatchereclipse5291]

Why do I have such bad luck with these. I play pichu and Lucas. My friend used to play oilmar, turns out pichu is his best matchup. Then I fight a pyra mythra online, get bodied by spamming (I’m not a John I swear lmao), and turns out Lucas is her best matchup. Mood.

[@ducestat06savage99]

Sonic: *WRIGHT THAT DOWN WRIGHT THAT DOWN* 3:40

[@spinosaurusaegyptiacusfrom2894]

It’s simple. USE BOWSER!!!

[@french_toast223]

I hate that they make dlc characters broken on purpose

[@anivibes2968]

i dont know why but These two are designed to make people salty

[@eddieshannon6880]

“And Pyra…will kill you.”

[@Perrier_enjoyer]

These two need to be removed from the game.

[@kemmybelleuwu]

seriously dawg

[@uberlaughingman]

pyro's smash attacks should take ammo that restores on death. that would be gud game design XDD

[@joeb.3165]

Just lil fyi, she IS the aegis, the sword is just a sword. She is the blade, blades are the being that comes with a weapon, that assist their driver in combat

[@deimos6809]

Maniacally laughing looking through the comments from 9 months ago.

[@gamingwithfroygwf2324]

I can’t do anything I’m a Kirby main and I can’t even attack them. How can I attack them if I can’t even recover

[@blazinvireo]

Suck them in with kirby, that should at least give you some of their abilities.

[@azizalreyahi7081]

Lool who put dislike before video come dont bother man u make nice videos

[@Growmetheus]

Their basic arial stops literally all of my attacks except sephiroth and he still gets hit. Wtf do i even do? IM SERIOUS WTFF

[@blazinvireo]

Shield and reflector that's all I can think of.

[@fusion4460]

Imma use this so KNOW what to not do as pyra/mythra

[@gameventura9279]

The website is down I believe

[@BlusterTheBenevolent]

Use projectiles? That stupid Foresight and Mythra’s crazy mobility means that only works on Pyra.

[@chaosjimthevoidlord3762]

It’s good to know cloud is a counter pick to pyra/mithra because he’s my main, and my friend mains pyra/mythra, but you also said that pyra/mythras strong stages are ones with platforms like battlefield and the weak stages are final destination etc, unfortunately that’s the same story for cloud, so what’s the best option here?

[@isaiahspinks8070]

After 2 rounds I beat my friend playing her with my joker

[@pscasual4348]

How to beat them: wait for the next patch.

[@ElionMars]

Didn't help.

[@_viShug]

Nope, not here either. Yayy.

[@deluuzz]

To anyone who's reading this just play dk and cargo grab them offstage lol

[@Kikonut15]

yeah have fun being combo food for mythra

[@Dawn95284]

If you main these two you are a noob.

[@NoahAbrahamson]

Pyra/Mythra tier? They are in the needs to be nerfed immediately tier.

[@Simplejackfade]

@DaniLovesArt12 Dim So?

[@NoahAbrahamson]

@DaniLovesArt12 Dim they don't need to recover when they can control neutral so easily and kill at 30%

[@FelipeKana1]

@@NoahAbrahamson exactly! Plus, their recovery is not as bad as the Belmonts or Little Mac.

[@iamconfusion5323]

@DaniLovesArt12 Dim That didn't stop Cloud from being broken in Smash 4

[@PurposeDriven7_]

@@NoahAbrahamson I’m sorry if your getting killed by a fully charged smash attack at 30% you just suck at the game lol hero can crit and kill you that early at ledge or with his thwack. Why aren’t people calling to nerf him?

[@FelipeKana1]

Pyra's side b is not being properly reflected by some reflectors!!! Anyone else having that problem?

[@TravPlay]

You have to reflect while it's moving across the stage. You can't reflect it once it stops in place and spins.

[@Add183]

Ah so SD whenever I’m facing one online

[@Mayachrite]

But most people who use pyra and mythra online just spam prominece revolt and lightning buster

[@cyan_64]

i really hate there characters but the main reason i watched this was to show that kirby is better than pyra PLUS it shows that i am a better kirby main so its a win win ty for the video!

[@biteforce2081]

Dang looks like I was late to the party here lol. I haven’t played against Mythra and Pyra. I also see that the matchup is a disadvantage for my main, Lucas I guess I have to find out why... and soon because it has been a long time since I played Smash ultimate.

[@Mooncake22]

Can blazing edge be deflect?

[@TravPlay]

Yes, but only before it starts spinning.

[@tax_fraud3030]

11 people are pyra and mythra mains

[@odneytermilus6204]

Travis have you played one of the sonic franchises before if so what sonic game

[@TravPlay]

Only Sonic 1-3 on Sega Genesis. You?

[@odneytermilus6204]

@@TravPlay I've played the same ones as you did and the ones that are on the switch

[@shawnburke-hutchinson5901]

Mythra: Stupidly fast, Able to rack up % super quickly, Attacks become stronger if dodges Pyra: Spin To Win, Haha all my moves go kzbin.info/www/bejne/najbhY2XlpiBnas (Bonk), PrOmInEnCe ReVoLt

[@J4D3N]

@Nintendo make it stop😫 #NerfPyra&Mythra

[@_viShug]

This video actually helped me get better with my Mythra and Pyra. Sweet. Thanks.

[@AliVe1234]

Drop that character and play like a man

[@Avaitor_YT]

L character

[@JackFlySN]

People literally just use pyra so I gotta watch half the video

[@kirayoshikage7302]

The just spam

[@billbolt9458]

they should make Mythra's damage output Sheik level and make Pyra just a little slower

[@xbuster3]

5:30 is as if sakurai learned nothing from smash 4 bayo

[@psychosid3215]

They need a nerf like rn

[@SaltymanGaming]

Blazing End is still the most cancerous move ever made.

[@krazyzyko]

Avoid the sword... got it.

[@flareimpulse]

all they do is spam their right b and up b

[@andysantos9495]

The reason im watching this video

[@therealmariofan]

Yeah super annoying

[@jinzo5956]

Pyra and Mythra should have never been added. Maybe just one of them but never both, that character is so dumb and stupid. I hate the game because they are in it and i am just about to quit smash in general unless they get some nerfs

[@blazinvireo]

They shouldnt, we could've and should've gotten a whole range of our favorite other characters like spyro, crash bandicoot, etc instead..

[@wenbinx]

How not to beat to pyra

[@CeciReviews1]

These characters are broken

[@mathunit1]

Feels like some of this stuff is just pitifully outdated now.

[@Dante_Sparda_DMC]

Trick question: you can't beat them, p2w