Honestly steve is one of the most annoying characters to play against ngl
@jenniferyankee77303 жыл бұрын
Pk fire! Pk fire! Pk freeze! Pk Fire!
@VIPDRE3 жыл бұрын
My friend plays him camps a corner and if I come near he minecarts it's unbeatable for my tiny tilted mind lol
@alvaropinilla86393 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferyankee7730 PK cry
@jsalmon91683 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferyankee7730 At least the PK boys have to hit you. Steve just camps all game lol
@user-fq5ke5qj3h3 жыл бұрын
Nseds nerf
@sinfulsaxophone49693 жыл бұрын
The fact that I have to look up a video on how to beat Steve in smash is really saying something 😂
@toothpasteassassin84143 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and now Sephiroths even more annoying to beat
@pikachuisbusted52683 жыл бұрын
@@toothpasteassassin8414 mythra and pyra is a thing now
@crafterboi77743 жыл бұрын
@@pikachuisbusted5268 you have to have the AI of a robot to counter Mythra as a minimum
@pikachuisbusted52683 жыл бұрын
@@crafterboi7774 have you ever fought a good mythra and pyra before? Not the ones that just spam side b as mythra and up b as pyra hell even mkleo picked up pythra
@RealMysticalMan3 жыл бұрын
Kazuya is also a thing and a annoying one too
@TwelveTables3 жыл бұрын
Steve has a sword out of shield options for in front and behind him that hit on frame 7 (6 with gold). How is that a bad oos options? He can also Minecart a second time in air if he drops TNT between uses. Allowing him to recover from very low. Only way to deal with Steve is to keep up the pressure and not let him get materials.
@darkwing38253 жыл бұрын
His fair comes out on frame 7-8. His bair on frame 12. That is 10 and 15, taking jumpsquat into consideration. How does he have a frame 6 OOS sword option? I suppose his nair would work, but at the same time, it doesn't have that much range.
@TwelveTables3 жыл бұрын
@@darkwing3825 buffer short hop fair or Bair out of shield. You'll see a sword used for the fair or Bair. It's frame 4 and jumping adds 3 frames
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
Well spotted. I corrected the out of shield option in my most recent video.
@bailujen8052 Жыл бұрын
Ivysaur
@CarterTarter Жыл бұрын
@@bailujen8052on god
@Arc_Viper2 жыл бұрын
My experience against steve: gets trapped in mine cart -> gets deleted with up smash ->gets trapped in mine cart -> gets deleted with up smash
@Duraith3 жыл бұрын
Trust me, Steve's forward-air/back-air cancels are amazing out of shield options. If the Steve player knows about that, they can get you out of their shield very easily with a combo and maybe even a f-air spike.
@SealFormulaMaster3 жыл бұрын
I would think platforms are Steves _best_ friend, not worst enemy. Maybe the platforms block the minecart, but what about stopping him from mining? If he were to retreat under a platform and place blocks, he now have protection from the front and above. Besides K.Rool (Who appears to be glitched right now), no character can walk over the blocks, which forces you to attack the blocks, attempt to thread the needle and jump between the platform and block, or go around the platform. Maybe you can hit Steve while he's mining from his own block, someone will have to test that as I have no friends to test with. Mobility doesn't seem to be that much of a weakness honestly. Even if Steve moves slow, his minecart easily makes up for that. Once he has Gold, he can make those powered rails, which will send him zooming on by, and considering each Gold bar counts as 4, he has 4 of those powered rails. All he has to do is get in the minecart, zip close, jump out. Early on mobility could be challenging, but as Salem demonstrated, if you master the instant short hop up-b, you could glide across the ground and grab ledge to escape. Maybe that's more advance tech, but it seems like something that would be helpful to master. On the topic of the minecart, his body is still a hurtbox, so if you're brave you can knock him out of the minecart with an attack. Risky if it's powered since it'll be going fast, but it can be done powered or not. On the topic of mining, Steve can mine his own Anvil, which will always give Iron, with chances for Redstone, Gold and Diamond. Even if you prevent him from mining, Steve still starts off with 3 Iron, meaning he could in theory get you off stage, short hop Dair an Anvil and mine it. From my testing, you can get 3 to 4 resources from a single Anvil (Being either 3 Iron, or 3 Iron and either Redstone, Gold, or Diamond). Each Anvil costs 1 Iron to make, so you'll at least gain 2 Iron from a single Anvil.
@daridon24833 жыл бұрын
You can also use your tnt for the same purpose, consuming a lot of cheap resources instead of 1 iron, and lasts way longer.
@mathunit13 жыл бұрын
God, this video is already gonna outdated with the amount of bullsh!t tech Steve mains are discovering right now. XD
@daridon24833 жыл бұрын
Expecting 90% of the tips to be outdated because steve mains already pulled a tech that covers it lmao
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
That’s why I made a Part 2. 😉
@KrodaStagg3 жыл бұрын
This is good. The instant I saw this ugly block man I just knew that he would be more annoying than OP.
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@burger-tc2gl2 жыл бұрын
As a Steve main I don't think he's overpowered I mean have you seen our matchup against a link name one advantage we have
@burger-tc2gl2 жыл бұрын
Move to look out for this move was not mentioned but his magma block does some pretty decent stutter damage but oh boy the resulting knockback is truly mind-blowing look out for this move this is coming from a Steve main
@coocoochickenbruddaisasoko77903 жыл бұрын
I’m actually hyped looking at this video, it’s gonna help a lot so thanks my dude!
@alfonss_3 жыл бұрын
Underrated channel. Just continue uploading and you're set!
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@apagan00753 жыл бұрын
Found a strat against with Mii Brawler, using Mach Punch on the Craft Table is useful cause you can damage it but you can catch Steve when he’s close to the table. Reflecting the Minecart is a good weakness to exploit, and finally try using tilts, projectiles and other attacks to hit the TNT to send it to directly to Steve’s face.
@sinteleon3 жыл бұрын
Can minecart be reflected when riderless?
@apagan00753 жыл бұрын
@@sinteleon yes
@chaoticchild5193 жыл бұрын
The crafting table can be summoned even when destroyed right after you break it As if this character wasn’t bs enough
@apagan00753 жыл бұрын
@@chaoticchild519 Already know that but you can still use the Table as a trap when pressuring Steve.
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
Clever!
@kevfitzgerald66383 жыл бұрын
Something to Note : While Mashing the C Stick will do nothing. It actually only counts as one input. Use the control stick instead, that will give you a fast mash.
@kevfitzgerald66383 жыл бұрын
Also like to note : Steve has a frame 7 oos option from behind that is a kill confirm, so attacking his shield from behind is dangerous
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
Really? Even when you have the C stick set to tilt attack? I thought the L stick only counted as one input.
@SuperSmackPop3 жыл бұрын
Been hoping for this. Another dope and timely video. Thank you!
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@damianhighfill20143 жыл бұрын
So my steve is actually nutty so far. Hes my highest gsp character in elite smash and im picking him up as new main. I also play super aggro when playing as steve, camping/mining constantly isn't fun and it kinda is predictable. Steve is freaking awesome. P.s. why is nobody talking bout that backair though🔥
@Incathealc3 жыл бұрын
Give me your friend ID so I can play you
@strato98733 жыл бұрын
Because no one has matchup experience. Thats why i see so many steves in elite. And yes i beat all of them. Also bair is stupid busted
@RangoTheMercenary3 жыл бұрын
I swear you sound like Jack from Beastars. Also, I should mention Cloud definitely wins due to exchanges and projectiles. The recovery thing can be mitigated by staying mid-screen and charging Limit for Limit Climhazzard.
@Phoongus3 жыл бұрын
when he comes i will be ready tysm
@Phoongus3 жыл бұрын
oh nvm when you realize he is 5 bucks ._. :(
@ithewanderer8303 жыл бұрын
What a pain in the pickaxe
@rednk91063 жыл бұрын
5:06 "Because he can't mine while he's up there" Wait until skymining is discovered.
@Big_.Marv80253 жыл бұрын
Trav: mix up your recovery Me, a min Min player: but I don’t have mixups
@KilosFoxo3 жыл бұрын
theoretically a skilled megaman player could do well against steve by keeping at a range from him
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
As long as Megaman keeps the pressure on while Steve mines then yeah
@killercream19333 жыл бұрын
Just lost to Yonni in bracket, need to learn quick and hopefully do better next week
@firescorpion21303 жыл бұрын
Pit is the best fighter for steve: His arrows can stop steve mining and catch his jumps pits shield can reflect his cart, his down air ,and his down smash His shield can tank any hit and after u tank his moves go for the right punish When steve dose his combo around low percentage u can nair out of his combos If ur recovering and he uses the blocks to block u just recover on the other side of the map
@xshadowwreckerx75613 жыл бұрын
I’ve fought a lot of Pit’s and it seems to be more even then Pit countering him
@xshadowwreckerx75613 жыл бұрын
Also Steve has some combos were you can’t DI
@mtvgamer24792 жыл бұрын
The helps nothing at all with Kirby. Kirby got less frame data and range ._.
@pabcakeh2 жыл бұрын
yea kirby steve mu is garbo. kirbys frame datas fine tho, they just dont have the right options to approach kirby and are very slow
@JoelTheParrot3 жыл бұрын
0:43 Well, if you're avoiding minecart, Lylat specifically should be avoided. Lotsa iron there, no anvil or tnt trick needed. 3:38 It's seen, just not mentioned. Not by you, but, y'know.
@breadmonke4684 Жыл бұрын
I watched this video so I now know what to be wary of. Thanks now I'm more op
@getbackhere31783 жыл бұрын
I just went to a tournament,and I lost because I got cheesed by Steve,I trained for 10 days for 3 hours everyday. my opponent said that they haven't trained at all.thing is,I knew this person,and I have 3 stocked him on multiple occasions. in fact,I beat the former champion pretty bad,but I lost because this person's antics.this was my first tournament and I came second to a person who spams side b,mines,and does smash attacks as soon as I get out of cart. Dang.
@burger-tc2gl2 жыл бұрын
Trust me do not pick a rushy fast character against Steve The long range on his grab will make your life a living nightmare being repeatedly grabbed and this is coming from a Steve main
@AceTriggerz Жыл бұрын
This dude has amazing frame data on most of his moves, hes easy to play, and can KO with every fkin thing, and all he loses out is a "some" mobility lol.
@connemignonne3 жыл бұрын
7:29 He actually has a really quick backwards out-of-shield option, too - he can initiate a jab and shorthop backwards at the same time. It's like his regular rising shorthop jab but hits behind and still comes out frame 4 with huge coverage. M2k explains here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpLQq5lpd5mUqdk
@sinteleon3 жыл бұрын
Related, does short-hop anvil work as an out-of-shield option too?
@connemignonne3 жыл бұрын
@@sinteleon haven't tested it, looks like the anvil itself comes out around frame 12 and doesn't start falling until around frame 18 so it might not be a great choice unless they've used a move with a lot of endlag. shorthop on top of that and then it's probably way too much definitely nowhere near as good as the 4-frame jabs out of shield
@TwelveTables3 жыл бұрын
@@sinteleon you have to parry for that to work. Grim's lab has a video all about parry footstool combos
@Chadmiral3 жыл бұрын
I just don't let Steve get the chance to mine stuff.
@Jiggywiiz3 ай бұрын
How to counter steve: *You probably wont*
@deception8453 жыл бұрын
Suffering from fighting him, I've become a masoquist... I guess that you've already know that I'm a mac main '-'
@danielmartins99013 жыл бұрын
You need a Hero
@Scooby-DrewSSB Жыл бұрын
8:05 that aged poorly
@jackrocks83503 жыл бұрын
HOW DO I BLOODY APPROACH HIM
@burger-tc2gl2 жыл бұрын
Good luck approaching us when you when we place a singular block in front of us forcing you to jump over it which we then just use to up smash and get a free kill
@jackrocks83502 жыл бұрын
@@burger-tc2gl 😡
@Antonio-is2cn Жыл бұрын
@@burger-tc2gl *You still have to hit me Mr Steve Alex Zombie Enderman player*
@griffinbennet17703 жыл бұрын
When you jump over minecrart he uses magma block....
@burger-tc2gl2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the most satisfying thing a Steve main can do but is easily countered by singular air dodge and then followed up by any neutral attack by any character landing a free hit
@thisistherun40153 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, good start
@maxthompson7107 Жыл бұрын
Remind me why Mii's have their own tier below lower than low tier? Are they that bad?
@plasticstraw50333 жыл бұрын
steve is the best of the best
@OttoDan3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. I mean. If you can make a Steve run out of materials, lucky you, such a good player and gg, but it's hard, Steve can push you and mine like crazy, can recover his materials really fast.
@flame69833 жыл бұрын
he can barely do that if your playing a rush down as they basically invalidate mining until they end up dying
@thePersonoyt2 жыл бұрын
Use Pokemon trainer, ivysaur, specifically
@k2x5983 жыл бұрын
a good steve is debatably worse than playing against sonic
@SquallNN2 жыл бұрын
4:18 I just tested it and the right stick does nothing for mashing. NOTHING! The left stick works great though
@purgatory12563 жыл бұрын
the easiest way to beat steve is to bait out anvil as a reflector character.
@cinnabun36593 жыл бұрын
I really struggle fighting steve due to blocks and his crafting table blocking my arms (i main min min) usually a good steve player places blocks around the stage preventing me from really attacking i need to learn the MU better
@duchi103 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@odneytermilus62043 жыл бұрын
Do you think pit is a good matchup against Steve because I main pit now
@alesterphoenix3 жыл бұрын
Hey man. I main Pit and D.Pit as well. Personally I've been doing really well as them once i understand what to look out for. As soon as the match starts i fly out arrows to stop them mining. Don't approach from directly above too much because they want that upsmash. Constantly do arrows consistently to make flustered cause it stops em from mining. When they cart and jump out remember to reflect it and then proceed to rush em. If you do get caught in cart don't instantly mash out but look if they chasing you to get that Spike and act accordingly
@odneytermilus62043 жыл бұрын
@@alesterphoenix right thanks and who do you think is better pit or dark pit
@alesterphoenix3 жыл бұрын
@@odneytermilus6204 I find that it boils down to what you're aiming for. I personally love Pit so much But in more instances Dark Pit is more useful due to the fact he can accomplish more horizontal kills earlier with his Electroshock and a solid read or with a good snipe of his arrows charge. (Though with Pits arrows you could force them into an bad recovery situation but it's less guaranteed cause you'd have to land 2 or more)
@odneytermilus62043 жыл бұрын
@@alesterphoenix ok thanks for your opinion
@alesterphoenix3 жыл бұрын
@@odneytermilus6204 No prob. All the best
@thatonelucinamain3 жыл бұрын
How to beat him when he just got out? 💀💀💀Ok...
@Additive_PE3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a good decision having separated the guide and the match analysis, the video will be shorter and more attractive to people Good to see TravPlay always experimenting with his videos
@davidgumazon3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/rX66fZJ5apisi7s
@prism____2 жыл бұрын
8:06 are you sure about that!
@themarioking71273 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail gave me some anxiety. It's either Link's pelvis, or Steve's face.
@darkcylander2 ай бұрын
what's with all the rapid ducking?
@uli99803 жыл бұрын
Not to be rude, but I don’t really agree with what you said in the beginning about a better player winning the match. At least online, your character choice or internet connection plays a massive role. Online its 40% skill and 60% Nintendo Online BS
@smartpatrick86903 жыл бұрын
What are they doing???!!! He is a sword fighter. He deserves a MUCH better range.
@Dan-tx6fp3 жыл бұрын
Steve is definetly bottom top tier
@eazyrat3 жыл бұрын
i lost a game dying 3 times getting caught in the mine cart then falling to my death. didnt even wrack up much percent :(
@elrik13743 жыл бұрын
answer: be better then them
@UMosNyu3 жыл бұрын
Many of Steve's attacks can be counterd. Down Air, down tild, down smash, side b (with or without steve). So Fox is pretty nice
@Stormiie.3 жыл бұрын
That of course if we don't get zero to death
@younglink3243 жыл бұрын
@@Stormiie. that of course if you know what Di and air dodge are
@Stormiie.3 жыл бұрын
@@younglink324 we need to sdi hard , airdodge it's trickier to do since fox falls too fast, some Twitter link have proved that sdi out or in Dosent change anything
@younglink3243 жыл бұрын
@@Stormiie. yeah your right about fox but let take lucina yo does fall that fast,she can get out of it fast
@Stormiie.3 жыл бұрын
@@younglink324 yeah she can probably jump out of it... But as a fox main myself, you need to clip through Steve in hitstun... Which is something real hard to do...so yeah...Fox truly gets zero the death and even more if Steve has diamond sword... Easy 50%
@Nokyyyyy3 жыл бұрын
1:10 That's a weird low tier list
@Incathealc3 жыл бұрын
As a ness main. Steve easily gets chucked
@bucketbutters8663 жыл бұрын
Cuz of PK FIRE
@ellquilliams98023 жыл бұрын
You're wrong about his up special tho
@elrik13743 жыл бұрын
i think steve deserves to be mid high because with the right characters steve can't do much
@elrik13743 жыл бұрын
if you thought i meant mid to high i meant middle of high
@seanjung85783 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@BigMamaSSB Жыл бұрын
#bansteve
@Turnpost25523 жыл бұрын
most of this advice is common sense.
@Nokyyyyy3 жыл бұрын
_When you play the character, struggle with and against him_ Btw, I think Steve beats sonic Dirt blocks > spindash
@firstlast-wg2on3 жыл бұрын
I think that’s good for Steve and bad for Sonic but Steve won’t be punishing sonic if he hits a block, Steve simply isn’t fast enough, Sonic otherwise can force Steve to approach, even if Steve has full diamond you can just go full Sonix and commit to the camp.
@Nokyyyyy3 жыл бұрын
@@firstlast-wg2on yeah Wait, he can't punish sonic ?
@NamelessViking013 жыл бұрын
Steve literally can camp you out with putting 2 blocks on top of each other and forces you to jump over/ air dodge and is up smash just lasts for so long its so annoying. Tbh steve makes no sense for smash and shouldn't be in it.
@JoelTheParrot3 жыл бұрын
Gotta reverse engineer
@gregorycollins23143 жыл бұрын
Well i do rush my opponents alot but me playing as my miis i always use my counter when the anvil comes or my echo reflector and for the brawler feint jump or soaring axe kick just my opinion to beat him.
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention reflecting the mine cart. Good idea!
@avocado94663 жыл бұрын
Luckily the block edgeguard doesnt works against my main
@burger-tc2gl2 жыл бұрын
Who's your main
@AA-ws2zu3 жыл бұрын
i made a steve killing montage using link. bomb is how to beat steve
@diggitydogz20993 жыл бұрын
Wassupp
@1b2f4c3 жыл бұрын
Answer: be Steve.
@suspicioussalad55783 жыл бұрын
I think steve and some other dlc characters, mostly the gimmick ones, are just poor design, their gimmick is either hyper annoying or not very good at all, and for steve in particular, I feel like the amount of time it takes to learn him isnt worth it since all of steves gimmicks dont translate well to any other character, this makes him unique, sure, but really, when you play him, you're gambling that the other person doesn't know what steve really does, and you're dedicating a whole lot of time to learn things for a character that wont really help you in any way in playing other characters. I mean, im probably exaggerating, but it really is just a meme, and really nothing more
@kienanparker15763 жыл бұрын
Umm Steve can combo, how do you beat that?
@burger-tc2gl2 жыл бұрын
It is possible for Steve to combo but as a Steve main myself let me give you a little tip it takes so much skill literally none of us do it it's not worth our time so don't worry about the combo it essentially doesn't exist
@batboydave4163 жыл бұрын
Where is minmin on your tier list? I know she’s there but I can’t find her lol
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
That was MKLeo’s 7.0 tier list, so Min Min wasn’t there.
@batboydave4163 жыл бұрын
@@TravPlay gotcha! Thanks!
@phalanx53993 жыл бұрын
How to beat Jigglypuff pls
@phalanx53993 жыл бұрын
@Quag Hammer Thanks, Ganondorf works?
@phalanx53993 жыл бұрын
@Quag Hammer Es que como uso a Mac se me dificulta mucho :'/ (Lo siento, no sé escribirlo en ingles)
@phalanx53993 жыл бұрын
@Quag Hammer confirmo, si quieres escribe en Inglés, ingles lo entiendo leyendolo
@phalanx53993 жыл бұрын
@Quag Hammersí 8)
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
When Jigglypuff wins the polls...
@rep93033 жыл бұрын
You don’t
@SWFBrickbox3 жыл бұрын
This is so casual lol
@yak87863 жыл бұрын
Just play plant
@TravPlay3 жыл бұрын
Lol plant gang!
@boprodudctions3 жыл бұрын
just spam moves
@danielmartins99013 жыл бұрын
Now, is anyone actually good enough to do these things?
@burger-tc2gl2 жыл бұрын
I don't know man if you want to beat Steve just select link name one advantage we have over him
@petahgriff71963 жыл бұрын
You cant
@yanyangames28453 жыл бұрын
No, dont
@nd7103 жыл бұрын
As a Zelda main I will take the advice lol
@not_scooty54383 жыл бұрын
This dude slow
@seanster91003 жыл бұрын
Don't mind me. I'm totally not a Steve player researching techniques for beating me so I can adapt to those who use these techniques.