How to Build a Fast RS660. Supertwin project showing the tricks for making an Aprilia really perform

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Obsession Engineering

Obsession Engineering

Күн бұрын

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@gerrievl
@gerrievl Ай бұрын
There can never be too much aprilia onnyour channel, they might give u problems now and then, but they get ur heart moving!
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
I love them too 😁
@SlimScheibe
@SlimScheibe Ай бұрын
If I was going to trust anyone to build me a twin, it'd be a man who built and raced one at the TT. Great stuff as always, Dave.
@peteb954
@peteb954 Ай бұрын
Club racing has changed a lot since I started back in the 80s. From riding the bike to the track and taping the lights up to motorhomes that wouldn't look out of place parked next to John McGuinness's.
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Yep, not sure it's a good change. No rusty £200 transit vans anymore
@bjrnhjjakobsen2174
@bjrnhjjakobsen2174 Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to educate 🙏👍🏻
@MichaelSmith-mc8bd
@MichaelSmith-mc8bd Ай бұрын
As always Dave a cracking video! . Looking forward to seeing how she performs! . Great meeting up with you last Tuesday at Obsession engineering, thanks for the hat, great birthday present from my wife, who went and sat in the car, because we were talking bike’s, or a foreign language according to her! . 😊
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Thanks for making a special birthday trip
@pokechopracing8862
@pokechopracing8862 Ай бұрын
Thank you Dave for another great video. Cannot wait to see the end results. Hope all is well there since it’s in the off race season and the weather is getting colder. Getting colder here as well Cheers from Southern California!
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
I need to see the sun again!
@mayhemmayo
@mayhemmayo Ай бұрын
THANK YOU. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
@flyingdutchy01
@flyingdutchy01 Ай бұрын
loved the Podcast!
@YAMR1M
@YAMR1M Ай бұрын
Ray Stringer does some really good adjustable velocity stacks. I think he has done one or two RS660's fairly recently and got some really good power... But Ray does his thing and how reliable they are really does depend on how often you rebuild the motor.. I know what you mean about the Rapid Bike kit.. I ran it and a power commander on the Nurburgring lap record Suzuki GSXR600 I built and we ran it back to back with the Power Commander and as much potential as it had the Power Commander was the route we went and we just handed the Rapid Bike kit back as we had been given it for the lap record.
@P.DuncanMonk
@P.DuncanMonk Ай бұрын
Oh Dave maybe you need to also give Rob some heated coveralls. You always seem to be layered up in your shop. For my shop in a very cold Oregon USA I use a propane heater. It seems to really help with concentration and productivity. Love your channel. Cheers Dave !.
@steveadams8799
@steveadams8799 Ай бұрын
Another very interesting video Dave. Many thanks for doing them.
@stevesane800
@stevesane800 Ай бұрын
Great work & super informative Dave! Was hoping to see more of Rob not sleeping but got Matt instead! Dragging Matt out of the office must have been an easy task! Looking forward to Part 2🤙
@UnrestrictedIsle
@UnrestrictedIsle Ай бұрын
A little thing i've found handy with footpeg bolts (besides locktite) is changing them to hex head bolts. They always seem to come with allen bolts so if they do come loose you have to remove the rearset to access, with a hex head you can just slip a spanner in behind - which is way less stressfull if needed between sessions!
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Not quite as easy when they bolt through the peg as these do 😁
@UnrestrictedIsle
@UnrestrictedIsle Ай бұрын
@ they bolt through the peg?
@Extremegaz25
@Extremegaz25 Ай бұрын
Good solid work dave that's a lot of jobs done efficiently.
@ManxAndy
@ManxAndy Ай бұрын
Evening Dave…..put sticker on my van….it’s far quicker now it’s “ Obssesion “ Engineering tuned…..👍😉👌🇮🇲
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Added at least 50bhp 😁
@haydenhill7715
@haydenhill7715 Ай бұрын
Really interesting watch Dave!
@nickrider5220
@nickrider5220 Ай бұрын
Even though I work on my old bikes, I have to admit new bikes seem nicer to work on, although space is often tight. Liked your detail of making sure the gear change linkage was at 90 degrees 👍🏻
@robertwhite7906
@robertwhite7906 Ай бұрын
Excellent behaviour Dave 👍👍☘️
@Crimdog
@Crimdog Ай бұрын
Enjoy the video! I always wondered if those shift rod support bearings make a noticeable difference?
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
I'll find out when I ride it!
@samanthagregoryurich4167
@samanthagregoryurich4167 Ай бұрын
Always interesting! I'm so happy you are building another RS660 so I can learn about my bike. Does one need to drain the oil to put the engine covers on?
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Nope, covers can be fitted without draining the oil, but the water drain point does get disturbed
@mikefoxtrot_svk
@mikefoxtrot_svk Ай бұрын
as you said..I did NOT double check the wiring, when pulling the engine out..I have broken off the wiring to neutral switch on my Honda...so yes, good tip :D
@ThatRandomGuy20
@ThatRandomGuy20 Ай бұрын
Love your content Wavey
@Jaded-Wanderer
@Jaded-Wanderer Ай бұрын
Another great video
@firestorm755
@firestorm755 Ай бұрын
You are dead right re tea break. It just lets things settle in your head so the next stage of a job can commence more easily. You unwind just for ten mins, very important. I'm a carpenter but tea break is just as relevant👍
@mikkelharving256
@mikkelharving256 Ай бұрын
What a great video
@Kenny.6807
@Kenny.6807 6 күн бұрын
Love the video and content Would it of been easier to buy an RS 660 Trofeo and use that as a base to work off rather than converting a Road bike ?
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering 5 күн бұрын
We were changing enough parts to make it better to start from scratch. Costs were similar though
@Shinysideup
@Shinysideup Ай бұрын
Awesome
@atroxell436
@atroxell436 Ай бұрын
this is a very impressive video. For how dominant the RS660 is as a Twins bike...it's an engineering nightmare
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
I'd argue they're very nicely engineered, but that has included saving weight by removing bits of frame that would normally make life easier
@atroxell436
@atroxell436 Ай бұрын
@@obsession_engineering the engineering is honestly incredible, the RS660s they run in the states with MotoAmerica are absurd...but from a quick first glance, it can seem overwhelming. It is also nice to hear about the fixes they made from early to late once the problems were discovered. Great video, definitely subbed because this kind of content is awesome to me 🤘
@bikeaddictbp
@bikeaddictbp Ай бұрын
I watched this with interest, being more familiar with how Yamaha does things. A yamaha isn't bothered if the rear brake switch or lights are unplugged, you don't have to remove the swingarm to remove the engine, and you don't have to remove the swingarm to deal with the rearsets. And the tensioner for the timing chain is simpler (different video). The RS660 is faster than the R7 ever could be, on the other hand ...
@fibroboy1604
@fibroboy1604 Ай бұрын
Great video, Dave. I'm just off to order a bobble hat.
@fibroboy1604
@fibroboy1604 Ай бұрын
Correction. An Awesome Bobble Hat!
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
They'll be back in stock very soon!!
@Goose077
@Goose077 Ай бұрын
Another great video Dave. I have an RS660 which will be for track days. What fairing kit did you use there Dave?
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
King Carbon for this build
@peteb954
@peteb954 Ай бұрын
Dave. Any chance of an update of yours and or Rapid Honda plans for next year? 🍻
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Yes, we'll be doing supersport with Owen Jenner and Harley McCabe. There's a 'meet the team' vid coming soon
@peteb954
@peteb954 Ай бұрын
@@obsession_engineering Thanks Dave.
@Trotsetukker
@Trotsetukker Ай бұрын
Never had trouble with leaking oil filters who have a nut on top. Only use that nut to undo the oil filter when it needs changing, never to tighten the filter.
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
I've only seen it a couple of times, but that's more than enough to convince me
@bikeaddictbp
@bikeaddictbp Ай бұрын
Locally we had a chap have one of those filters blow apart last year. I don't know if the hex was used to tighten the filter. Personally, I won't use oil filters with that hex, either.
@ianmills1120
@ianmills1120 Ай бұрын
Did you consider remapping the ecu instead of adding the piggyback module? Lots of wires and extra connectors to fail on a power commander.
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Yes, but I like the easy adjustable nature of the pc. Unless I invest more in mapping tooling, but then it gets very expensive
@dc1316
@dc1316 Ай бұрын
I did LDU ‘24 on one of these after my Deauville broke down after 17 miles 😂
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
So, more reliable than a dullsville!
@firbolg
@firbolg Ай бұрын
I just got a Ducati Scrambler and I know it's very far removed from anything performance related, but do you think I could take to a beginner's trackday for learning purposes. Assuming I get some more road oriented tyres.
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Of course, any bike can be enjoyed on track. If you want to learn, Rapid do excellent courses for road or track riding
@firbolg
@firbolg Ай бұрын
@@obsession_engineering Thanks, mate!
@sfade6217
@sfade6217 Ай бұрын
Your help please. Just built mine. Bitubo +15 cartridges in front. What length should I adjust my Bitubo XXZ to? FYI: forks are flush with triples as there is no adjustment room with Woodcraft triples/clip ons. Thanks
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
You bought the wrong clip ons then! I actually shortened my +15 kits by 8mm,so now only +7, and run them flush to the top clamp. Also depends what too clamp, as the spider version is stepped down slightly
@sfade6217
@sfade6217 Ай бұрын
Maybe so. I ended up raising the rear 15mm to equal the additional front height to keep stock geometry to start
@Lucas-vu2cr
@Lucas-vu2cr Ай бұрын
Really nice bike! Im curious how its going to perform, are you going to dyno it?
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Yes, stay tuned for the dyno action
@rlw85
@rlw85 Ай бұрын
What’s the charcoal and pair valve do. Have all new bikes got them
@juicy9592
@juicy9592 Ай бұрын
He explaines it in the video😂
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Yep, common on most new bikes, all to do with emissions reductions
@mach3463
@mach3463 Ай бұрын
Great video Dave.. do you know if i need to worry about oil pressure valve falling out on rsv4 2021? Is it same as the 2021 rs660?
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
No, it's a 660 only issue
@Gedv4Tuono
@Gedv4Tuono Ай бұрын
I’m lucky enough to have an RS660 extrema that use as a track bike (also ride it on the road, but not as much as my Tuono). It makes a great track bike for me, just moving up to inters from novice. I can’t help wondering, why choose the extrema as a ‘donor’ bike for a track project? Its a fair bit more expensive than a standard RS660, and as far as I can tell, you will be swapping out all the ‘nice’ bits? Loving the content Dave - just a bit confused 😂
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Shifter map is already open for race shift, parts we've removed sold much easier and I suspect there was a deal too
@supermotardrider
@supermotardrider Ай бұрын
Dave, why the bling for the PAIR valve? Flip the reeds, and lock wire a vacuum cap on the top. Done. But, like you said; the owners got money to spend.
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Also quick, easy and has the eliminator, so quite practical too
@supermotardrider
@supermotardrider Ай бұрын
@obsession_engineering for sure Dave. It looks better as well. I'm just a cheap ass! All good! Keep up the good work!
@malibu188
@malibu188 Ай бұрын
Just out of interest how much of the new bike price was recovered from selling the road gear, pipe and plastics etc?
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Not sure as the customer sold them, new fairing don't usually fatch much though, as most new bikes will be insured fully comp.
@malibu188
@malibu188 Ай бұрын
@ Great. Thanks for the details.
@dantealigieri2268
@dantealigieri2268 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm considering this bike for racing. Slick tires are available in size 180/60 R17. Does the bike's software allow you to set such a configuration? Because the tire will have a larger circumference and the sensors will not receive the correct data - abs, etc. How is this resolved?
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
There's a calibration option in the dash for when tyre sizes, gearing, etc are changed
@muzza6047
@muzza6047 Ай бұрын
You selling the single seat cowl ? mines fell of the bike its got chunks out it
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Already sold, sorry
@ragnarironspear1791
@ragnarironspear1791 Ай бұрын
No notification yesterday 🤬🤬🤬
@ChrisVanMiddelkoop
@ChrisVanMiddelkoop Ай бұрын
Why did he get an extreema if he is just going to tare it down into a track bike…
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Already has the quick shifter unlocked in the ecu for race shift, and parts sell for more... And probably on a deal still
@kristot4000
@kristot4000 Ай бұрын
Ecu is placed next to cylinder - does not sound like good idea
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Not heard of any issues with them, and been out a few years now
@nessuno7071
@nessuno7071 Ай бұрын
unreliable overprice crap bike
@obsession_engineering
@obsession_engineering Ай бұрын
Or, great bike, brilliantly engineered, and superb to ride
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