How to Build a Fence (Like a Carpenter)

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Scott Brown Carpentry

Scott Brown Carpentry

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@pascalsutterlin3168
@pascalsutterlin3168 5 жыл бұрын
We cut most of the stuff on an angel that the water floats away from the timber big hello from Germany used to work in nz for a year. Loved it how u guys framed all the houses so much to do for the carpenters👍
@saophaixoan7861
@saophaixoan7861 Жыл бұрын
I am fully impressed! It's just a complete kzbin.infoUgkxGqOCINHE0Z0E5gxzSdNi9NWGugRY5Hm2 plan with the best resources and step by step instructions . These shed plans are so satisfying as if the sheds build themselves on their own. Worthy work Ryan!
@roccoconte2960
@roccoconte2960 6 жыл бұрын
i cant believe you called a cement truck to fill a few post holes
@ericcyc1
@ericcyc1 6 жыл бұрын
If money is not a problem that is not a problem
@robertbutler8004
@robertbutler8004 6 жыл бұрын
Getting in the concrete truck cost the owner an unnecessary extra cost.
@roccoconte2960
@roccoconte2960 6 жыл бұрын
its over 600.00 dollar minamum in the Boston area.
@kookiemoose
@kookiemoose 6 жыл бұрын
That crete truck is expensive as hell here in Maine USA! I just pull a few bag from the hardware and throw them on my truck.
@kookiemoose
@kookiemoose 6 жыл бұрын
ericcyc1 a few bags of Sakrete from the hardware store ain’t much of a problem. Better putting money in my pocket than someone else’s.
@glastan3
@glastan3 6 жыл бұрын
ok, don't hang me I'm not a carpenter, but why do you go to the effort of using a string line (with a spacer) to line up all the tops of the pailings to then free hand cut them to length with the circular?
@ScottBrownCarpentry
@ScottBrownCarpentry 6 жыл бұрын
Short answer is to get the bottom straight. They don't make palings to suit our fence height. We bought longer palings, strung it up so the bottom stayed consistent and then cut the top to the desired height
@AndrewBrowner
@AndrewBrowner 6 жыл бұрын
im far from a perfectionist/ finish carpenter bit i just level/plumb the first board and then flush up the rest, if once in a while youre hands are working faster then your eyes and it gets off course a bit trimming a half inch with the circ saw at the end brings it back in
@robertbutler8004
@robertbutler8004 6 жыл бұрын
Chris glasgow that would be to keep the bottom of the boards in line!
@glastan3
@glastan3 6 жыл бұрын
For example if every board was 50mm longer or shorter than the previous board, stringing from the top would put the bottom out and the top Perfect, which he then cut free hand. If you want the bottom line Perfect why would you not string the bottom and then cut the discrepancies between boards at the top like he did anyway?
@fanaticz666
@fanaticz666 6 жыл бұрын
@@glastan3 I would assume every board is cut at the same length, even if they were out a couple of mm you probably would see it that bad at the bottom
@Tablesaw818
@Tablesaw818 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t know, I don’t think you used enough concrete. Not convinced those posts will hold
@SHINdanny
@SHINdanny 4 жыл бұрын
The neighbours are strong
@briansmith6517
@briansmith6517 3 жыл бұрын
The reality is that"s building in winter,Good one dude keep it up!
@TromboneRockGod
@TromboneRockGod 6 жыл бұрын
I was beginning to think I was the only person doing lap cuts anymore. I refuse to ever do a scarf cut on fence rails and I see them bloody everywhere in Australia. So I was thrilled to see your lap cuts, thank you!
@ScottBrownCarpentry
@ScottBrownCarpentry 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers, much more satisfying!
@natejm
@natejm 6 жыл бұрын
ultramegaroytrombone - I’m getting into carpentry for the last two years. Out of curiousity, why do you prefer the lap cuts on fences? Thanks for the input, from Canada. Cheers
@TromboneRockGod
@TromboneRockGod 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Nater… lap cuts are the way to go outdoors because they last longer than scarf cuts. Scarf cuts come to a point which is never, ever, good to do to wood outdoors. Bringing wood to a point always increases the chance for deterioration at those points. Then if you are bolting or screwing the timber to the post, you are gonna drill through (most likely) a thinner piece of the rail than you would be if you were doing a lap cut, unless you are incredibly precise. A lap cut means you are always screwing through at least 50% of the rail size where a slight misalignment on a scarf cut means you’ll be screwing through less than 50% of a rail to attach it to the post. A lap cut is also a tighter fit and there’s less chance that the rails will pull apart in the future and there’s less chance water will penetrate between the lap cut. The final reason is… it just looks better. It looks like you give a damn about what you are building and not just building a fence to make money. On some fences I’ve made I’ve taken pictures of the lap cuts where a white piece of hardwood meets with a red piece of hardwood on a rail and it simply looks fantastic, like you’re making a piece of art. Greeting from Sydney my Canadian friend, I hope you have a long and prosperous career working with wood…
@natejm
@natejm 6 жыл бұрын
ultramegaroytrombone - Thanks for the well wishes... I actively seek out advise and tips online, so I will have a prosperous career, with help from folks like you, so thanks for that as well... I’ve always done scarf joints outdoors in an attempt to hide the joints, giving it a seamless appearance. I guess overtime the opposite happens, especially here in Canada with our climate. If it works down under, I would imagine it works here. I will definitely be looking to incorporate those lap joints into my daily routines wherever possible. Your method of explanation was clear and made perfect sense to me, so thank you for taking the time to help me out! I will be sure to pass along the info and pay it forward to the next generation. Had an extra thought on the subject.... I’ve seen people use lap joints for interior wood working and a lot of the time they use glue before their fasteners, would you do the same for exterior applications?
@TromboneRockGod
@TromboneRockGod 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nater… yes, I’m a big fan of Liquid Nails adhesive. I use it just about anytime I join 2 pieces of wood together whether it’s gonna be screwed or nailed after that. For lap joints on a fence I’ll use Landscape Liquid Nails, which is an exterior grade version. I won’t use glue to attach palings to a fence rail, that’s a bit too much overkill in my opinion. For interior framing work I’ll still use liquid nails but for most other things I’ll use a “white” coloured or transparent glue like Gorilla or Tarzan wood glue which are just generic brands here. For finishing carpentry like architraves and trim work, I’ll use a “superglue” or epoxy that requires an additive to set off the glue when applied. Those products are awesome! When I talk to a client about a quote for a job, I tell them I do things like obsessively gluing everything first, because I suffer from “OES”. Then I tell them OES stands for “Over Engineering Syndrome”. They laugh and then they end up hiring me. Sometimes it’s exactly what the client wants to hear. You’re a good man Nater, keep up the great attitude you have and may you live long and prosper…
@m14mclaren
@m14mclaren 4 жыл бұрын
This was the first Scott Brown Carpentry video I watched when researching building my fence about a month or two ago. Now I've watch every episode
@patrickverni3299
@patrickverni3299 9 ай бұрын
When doing a longer run of fence, do you brace every post before the concrete, or level up once the concrete is poured in the hole with the post??
@noamavrahamdudai8306
@noamavrahamdudai8306 5 жыл бұрын
Hi nice job. One question brother. .why did you do the nice side of the fence to the neighbors side? Thanks
@doaimanariroll5121
@doaimanariroll5121 4 жыл бұрын
if NZ is anything like Aus, if you want to replace /change a fence, the neighbours legally have to have the good side. It’s just a council rule to keep the peace.
@TheOriginal_BigMac
@TheOriginal_BigMac 4 жыл бұрын
So it matches the other fences. And it makes it harder for people to climb onto your property
@gregtaylor8327
@gregtaylor8327 3 жыл бұрын
@@doaimanariroll5121 😁
@michaellynn9763
@michaellynn9763 3 жыл бұрын
In the UK, the person that receives the good side cannot legally claim the fence as theirs, even if they built it!
@memphisjahx7425
@memphisjahx7425 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos guys. Very educational. Makes me rethink my career as a bank manager lol. Good stuff, keep it up!
@charleshetrick3152
@charleshetrick3152 5 жыл бұрын
Memphis Jahx, well maybe since you’re good with numbers you can calculate how much money was wasted because of the fence’s inevitable failure because there was no drainage material in the base of the holes. And the end grain wasn’t sealed against direct ground contact. And the concrete wasn’t troweled at the ground level to ensure proper drainage. And rabbeting the rail joints is cute but pointlessly exposes way too much grain to be a good idea.
@fanaticz666
@fanaticz666 2 жыл бұрын
@@charleshetrick3152 this timber is treated to be set in ground
@charleshetrick3152
@charleshetrick3152 2 жыл бұрын
@@fanaticz666 no, it’s not. If this were pressure treated for ground contact it would be incised (having hundreds of little cuts) pressure treated. It looks like cedar to me but I know there exists “appearance grade” pressure treated which is not incised and not rated for ground contact. That said whenever you cut or drill pressure treated lumber there’s a liquid pressure treating chemical you apply to the cut ends. All that considered when I’ve built fences regardless of the lumber type my holes had drain rock and I applied a rubberized coating to the end grain of the end to be subterranean. Yes a fence can be poorly built and last quite a long time but if I were building a fence and representing myself as an authority on same on KZbin I’d pay closer attention to these details.
@fanaticz666
@fanaticz666 2 жыл бұрын
@@charleshetrick3152 these are H4 fence post with CCA treatment, treated for in ground use for fence post. Nothing on this fence is cedar
@dLimboStick
@dLimboStick 6 жыл бұрын
A concrete truck for 7 fence posts? Isn't that a bit of expensive overkill? Couldn't you mix and pour the concrete yourself, on your own schedule?
@kizzjd9578
@kizzjd9578 6 жыл бұрын
Quicker, cheaper and easier to order a truck than buy, transport and then mix 50x20kg bags of concrete.. I worked out the concrete volume to be 0.48m3 and each bag of concrete is 0.01m3. Minimum concrete order is 0.4m3 in Qld so take the easier option.
@candoattitud3
@candoattitud3 6 жыл бұрын
@@kizzjd9578 wowwww aren't you a diy expert. So much knowledge. There's advertisements everywhere here in vic for chippies to go work in Queensland. Evidently they really need us. First of all, your maths is wrong, secondly, you should never be in charge of ordering materials, thirdly, a boundary fence post I'd probs go 1-3-3. That's one shovel cement, 3 shovels sand and 3 shovels agg. Good to mix the dirt you dug out with your sand for many more reasons other than economics...id go 1/3 dirt/sand. Work those costings out next time you're fucking around on your phone instead of working. Lastly, you're fired.
@djredhareaus38
@djredhareaus38 6 жыл бұрын
50 bags more like 4 with some road base so like 60 bucks and you can take your time and not make a huge mess
@kizzjd9578
@kizzjd9578 6 жыл бұрын
Different building code up here mate. you have your way, I have mine.
@robertbutler8004
@robertbutler8004 6 жыл бұрын
Kizz jd half to m3 concrete mix 7 bags cement use own mixer 2 hours work and still be a lot cheaper than having the concrete truck come in.
@iworkforwendys
@iworkforwendys 3 жыл бұрын
could you use quikrete with this, instead of scheduling concrete pouring?
@davidfoster5943
@davidfoster5943 2 жыл бұрын
For footings yes
@finallyfriday.
@finallyfriday. 3 жыл бұрын
A shovel of cement in the hole before you put in the post saves that support work to hold the posts off the bottom.
@mohammadalihossain7783
@mohammadalihossain7783 Жыл бұрын
I know Istill satter and pelay board work I am very happy to see your work your style of work is beautiful
@MaxwellFaro
@MaxwellFaro 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ..... sure you don’t want to use another 10,000 gallons of concrete?
@tristanbennett5187
@tristanbennett5187 6 жыл бұрын
Right!
@flamecranium7787
@flamecranium7787 5 жыл бұрын
*yards*
@alexc8838
@alexc8838 5 жыл бұрын
Haha
@daos3300
@daos3300 4 жыл бұрын
@ Maxwell Actual the river you see is water, not concrete
@bobdole7451
@bobdole7451 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they ordered to much and were like, "screw it! Let's use it all." I've seen that happen alot.
@Markkrochuk1979
@Markkrochuk1979 6 жыл бұрын
We do 150x150 posts 1.2m deep where I am because of frost heave and wind storms/blizzards. Cross members are hung with galvanized brackets and 40mm deck screws.
@ryanmccue8180
@ryanmccue8180 6 жыл бұрын
The music you have is great and I like the editing glad I saw this channel.
@tane6394
@tane6394 2 жыл бұрын
What sort of suspenders is the dude with the white tee Rocking? Trying to find some to run on my Taurus belt but can’t find any that allow me to wear my belt backwards 😅
@bushydray
@bushydray 6 жыл бұрын
how to lay a concrete slab......with a fence in it lol
@meandyou917
@meandyou917 5 жыл бұрын
LOL!!! As I stated....damn they made a mess....he says...."we made a bit of a mess". YA THINK?!?!?! LOL.
@Moco925
@Moco925 5 жыл бұрын
Waaaayyy to much water something like that would be better on the dryer side. Especially do to windy conditions. Too much water + wind = cracked weakend concrete
@robertaylor9218
@robertaylor9218 5 жыл бұрын
Sean Henry I couldn’t tell if it was the bottom stringer or a rot-board. He might have been aiming for a 2-in-1.
@IAmZen_007
@IAmZen_007 5 жыл бұрын
One good storm and the fence is gone.
@efaciler2462
@efaciler2462 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao!
@ritchiemclean
@ritchiemclean 2 жыл бұрын
Concrete truck for a couple holes? Do you not have post crete in America? Sets in 5 minutes
@marccarter4469
@marccarter4469 3 жыл бұрын
Why all the concrete and how many days? here in the UK we would have had that done in 2 days tops.And when cutting a fence down to size screw a rail across it so you have a good guide for your saw.
@ManiacalKiwi
@ManiacalKiwi 6 жыл бұрын
Should have hosed off the fence straight after the pour. I do it every time now and it saves heaps of hassle down the line cleaning it after it dries.
@philrabe910
@philrabe910 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have a wet and dry season? I had to build a "fruit & veg stand" set up in fruit stand country [they always need a 'special' custom one] Only it was late august. In northern California. Where it hadn't rained in 7 months. The 2 man auger was NOT doing it for us, I think we ended up renting a backhoe with a drill attachment to get our holes done.
@Paul-qq7mh
@Paul-qq7mh 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see a proper fence getting built, 900mm deep holes for post, witch really is regulation, not to many people would do that. Great job! That fence will last a life time easy..
@HarleyGC7
@HarleyGC7 6 жыл бұрын
Not with wooden posts, they'll soak up water that will hold in the concrete and rot the posts. Doesn't matter if the posts are 100ft or 1ft in the ground, concrete posts are the best option for a lifetime fence.
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 5 жыл бұрын
@@HarleyGC7 You clearly know zero about the timber and the treatment methods here in NZ.
@HarleyGC7
@HarleyGC7 5 жыл бұрын
@@DiscoFang Doesn't matter what you treat it with, its wood and it rots. Even concrete can rot and eventually crumble but it takes a very very long time, sometimes 40 years or so.
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 5 жыл бұрын
Harley Here in NZ I've seen concrete posts failing before timber posts. I have original Jarrah boundary & fence corner posts on my own place that are 100yo. Concrete posts have almost no resilience to knocks. Generally only a couple of 6mm pretensioned wire lengths inside that lends any strength to them but if the concrete crumbles or cracks they are useless.
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 5 жыл бұрын
Harley 40 years can NOT be considered a long time.
@newzealandisno1
@newzealandisno1 10 ай бұрын
Hi Scott, what would an 18m long fence like this cost. Similar access and flat easy section. Cheers! Great video!
@GrowingOrganicTvShow
@GrowingOrganicTvShow 3 жыл бұрын
All you need is one string line at the bottom of the fence posts when setting. Just use your level and line up with string
@handylandlord
@handylandlord 4 жыл бұрын
I like the overlapping joint.👍
@Ram10779
@Ram10779 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus you made that a lot harder than what it should’ve been
@BarriosGroupie
@BarriosGroupie 5 жыл бұрын
How long with that fence last? 15 years? I don't understand why you didn't buy off the shelf concrete posts, gravel boards and then the fencing.
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 5 жыл бұрын
Try 50 years. It's CCA pressure treated pine. You do realise this is not your country right?
@DaEverything1
@DaEverything1 4 жыл бұрын
how long are the nails and what type of nails do i use for the fence boards
@sunofpeter2
@sunofpeter2 3 жыл бұрын
Use screws not nails
@cityonthehillyouthfoundation
@cityonthehillyouthfoundation 3 жыл бұрын
Sup Scott I’m building my first fence now. Why did you need a spacer for the height of the pickets if you ended up cutting the tops. ( I’m not being critical it’s a genuine question) .
@benprice8383
@benprice8383 3 жыл бұрын
So the bottom edge is straight and at same height
@njuham
@njuham 4 жыл бұрын
Very polite to have the neighbours see the nice clean side of the fence.
@jbdelta4542
@jbdelta4542 3 жыл бұрын
that's the FU side. the horizontal beams are meant to be on the inside so the fence can't be easily jumped from the outside. I would be pissed if someone built my fence backwards
@melvinleong3731
@melvinleong3731 9 ай бұрын
its the side that is harder to climb on
@Ichabod_Jericho
@Ichabod_Jericho 5 жыл бұрын
Bro...that concrete work was an absolute nightmare...I’m sure the fence is fine but my god the concrete...
@legendaryjayy24
@legendaryjayy24 5 жыл бұрын
Right, that was hard to watch
@IAmZen_007
@IAmZen_007 5 жыл бұрын
We use quick concrete > you win a lot of time.
@carlcox7332
@carlcox7332 4 жыл бұрын
Right lol. 2 ft holes takes one bag of quick crete.
@jamiedyer7782
@jamiedyer7782 4 жыл бұрын
So painful watching the premix first couple barrows so wet and there was no plan to get rid lol, would have been better to mix by hand for such a small job
@georgecroney6168
@georgecroney6168 3 жыл бұрын
They were probably rushed by the driver to get their few spoonfuls of concrete and bugger off
@MtBArN
@MtBArN 6 жыл бұрын
I always put a couple broken bits of slabs in the bottom of the holes then use postcrete, no mess, no need for a concrete truck.
@danielcamillire8006
@danielcamillire8006 6 жыл бұрын
hey scott, just wanted to say love you’re vids and work! I’m from England but I’ve lived in New Zealand when I was younger (Christchurch) just left after the earthquake. Keep up the good work. Love your content!
@ScottBrownCarpentry
@ScottBrownCarpentry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Daniel
@danmeaned3913
@danmeaned3913 4 жыл бұрын
Use a 6x1 board running along the bottom of the fence, all feather boards then sit on it so you don’t need a string line and the individual boards are raised off the ground away from moisture.
@iworkforwendys
@iworkforwendys 3 жыл бұрын
is the board perfectly straight.
@danmeaned3913
@danmeaned3913 3 жыл бұрын
@@iworkforwendys can’t say I’ve ever seen a 6x1 with a horrendous bow init so yes they are pretty much always straight.
@raynoladominguez4730
@raynoladominguez4730 6 жыл бұрын
Lap joints are awesome. Great video.
@ScottBrownCarpentry
@ScottBrownCarpentry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tedcopple101
@tedcopple101 4 жыл бұрын
You guys not have postcrete in nz? Pour in the dry mix, glug of water, jobs a carrot!
@faebrowne2537
@faebrowne2537 4 жыл бұрын
5:35 Is the slope for the water run off supposed to run away from the fence or does it not make any difference?
@damo100able
@damo100able 4 жыл бұрын
yes your right the slope should be away from the fence, common sense but you cannot teach that!
@BelzoGraphics
@BelzoGraphics 5 жыл бұрын
what size nails for the gun did you use 90mm for framing and 51mm for slats?
@VanZoale
@VanZoale 4 жыл бұрын
Asking if you don't get troubles placing the 'naked' wood into concrete. Concrete doesn't let water through so water stays on it and the poles will get destroyed over time, right?
@fanaticz666
@fanaticz666 2 жыл бұрын
These post are treated for high decay areas like ground contact or fresh water.
@danielfrial7876
@danielfrial7876 2 жыл бұрын
Why did he put a string line when he cut the top anyways? Was the just to even out the bottom?
@tuuxe
@tuuxe 6 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled across your channel, spent a little bit trying to figure out if you were in England, then noticed the description. The content is spot on, really interesting stuff, I actually already follow a bricklayer, a sparky (electrics) and a plumber (heating engineer) on KZbin and now I've got a chippy too. In another life I'd work on site and not in IT, but am still a keen DIY'er. Sounds to me like your a natural at youtube, keep at it and watch those subs grow :)
@ScottBrownCarpentry
@ScottBrownCarpentry 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta love KZbin for that , Thanks for the support man
@morosis82
@morosis82 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, another IT geek over here, setting up a workshop in my shed so I can do more hands on stuff with wood and robotics.
@richardrobinson7645
@richardrobinson7645 2 жыл бұрын
Heating technician
@AehreWemAereGebuehrt
@AehreWemAereGebuehrt 6 жыл бұрын
Why do you stick the fence poles directly into the concret instead of using these steel brackets als "shoes" ? Even pressure treated lumber will start rotting soon where it meets the concrete, if you ask me.
@toddsullivan596
@toddsullivan596 5 жыл бұрын
You made an absolute meal out of that mate haha. Thought you were starting building a house for a minute at a point in that vid haha.. madness
@titanfencingmelville9749
@titanfencingmelville9749 2 жыл бұрын
Good effort lads. Well done. Subscribed.
@nztrader2.04
@nztrader2.04 4 жыл бұрын
Quick question, why were you string lining the pails at the top if you were just going to cut them to height latter?
@fanaticz666
@fanaticz666 2 жыл бұрын
Think it was to make the bottom straight
@AB-uk4pd
@AB-uk4pd 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it ne better to use post carriers in These conditions (lots of rain etc)?
@odger3700
@odger3700 4 жыл бұрын
"We made a bit of a mess." Umh... You noticed! :D
@robertperren3577
@robertperren3577 3 жыл бұрын
Noticed, but didnt fix it. Classic....
@LifeofaBushman
@LifeofaBushman 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome work bro 👌👌👌👍👍👍
@Anonymous16863
@Anonymous16863 4 жыл бұрын
Hi - would appreciate any thoughts on how you would deal with this... concrete spurs every 1.9 meters, but the rails only come in 3.6m max so I need to overlap...lap joint ?
@Chris-gt3rs
@Chris-gt3rs 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the bolts with the mushroom head and how do you got them if it’s a mushroomed head??
@chrisjohns8196
@chrisjohns8196 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Some advice? For a 2.4 meter fence, 90 x 90 fence posts, how deep should the post be and is 300mm auger correct?
@KingH-nm7dq
@KingH-nm7dq Жыл бұрын
2 ft deep
@murraycrichton2001
@murraycrichton2001 6 жыл бұрын
Nice looking fence, thou a lot of pissing about. Have a look at how they did a feather edge fence in the UK. Could put that fence up in a day using postcrete.
@TheDiolulaLife
@TheDiolulaLife 6 жыл бұрын
Wait. You string the top of the panels but then cut them down? Just curious why
@seanmccabe221
@seanmccabe221 5 жыл бұрын
rod diolula it means the bottom of the slats are in line even though he cutting top
@cranbourneconcreters5535
@cranbourneconcreters5535 2 жыл бұрын
Very smart, cheers Scotty
@tonygarcia231
@tonygarcia231 3 жыл бұрын
What nail gun did you use kind of new to this
@tn8584
@tn8584 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Just stumbled across your channel and love what you do. Question: whats the benefit of using a cancrete from a truck ? Wouldn't it have been less messy just getting some quick setting concrete from Bunnings and just using that ?
@charlieeleftheriadis9646
@charlieeleftheriadis9646 3 жыл бұрын
Facts tho
@wm.d.nelson4912
@wm.d.nelson4912 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yes it would have!
@UncleChopChop22
@UncleChopChop22 3 жыл бұрын
You try mixing 10 or so barrows of concrete(especially rapid set) and see if you wouldnt be ordering a truck next time.
@vidpromjm
@vidpromjm 3 жыл бұрын
@@UncleChopChop22 A lot of guys just dump the bag straight in the hole, no mixing, just tamp it down with the bar as you add water. Probably not as strong but strong enough.
@jaredhammonds8255
@jaredhammonds8255 2 жыл бұрын
@@UncleChopChop22 been there. Done that. It's not hard. My neighbor would have been pissed if all that flowed into his yard
@rush2124u2
@rush2124u2 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you add gravel before you put the posts and cement? Gravel gives a good solid foundation
@brianseager6388
@brianseager6388 2 жыл бұрын
concrete is way better
@santiago321lat
@santiago321lat 5 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear you put the temporary rail so the posts would not touch the bottom of the hole. Does that mean the bottom of the posts are encased in concrete? shouldn't there be gravel at the bottom of the hole and at least covering the bottom of the post?
@fanaticz666
@fanaticz666 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he lifts it so the concrete goes under the post like a small concrete pad
@andrereeves1473
@andrereeves1473 3 жыл бұрын
What type of screws/nails did u use
@rocket2811
@rocket2811 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the ground driller/digger called ?
@streetgainer
@streetgainer 4 жыл бұрын
How far inside the property line did you set your post?
@WhiskeyTango84
@WhiskeyTango84 4 жыл бұрын
What is the benefit of not letting the post contact the ground other than it causing rot from moisture and such?
@ryanlaycock6908
@ryanlaycock6908 2 жыл бұрын
Its just to allow water to drain which will prevent post rot, concrete deterioration and also stop the ground around the post from failing.
@mammutit
@mammutit 4 жыл бұрын
its interesting to see you just put the poles in the cement, over here that would rot after a year. we put the cement in and stick metal pole holders in the cement , then screw the poles on the pole holders once the cement has hardened. the cement stays under ground the metal pole holders stick roughly 5 cm above the ground and the poles never touch the ground
@MrHavokman
@MrHavokman 3 жыл бұрын
Can you link the product for fence posts?
@carpenterdom1639
@carpenterdom1639 5 жыл бұрын
Looking over the comments there’s a lot of shoulda coulda woulda warriors. I think you guys killed that job and I would’ve been down to help with labor
@carpenterdom1639
@carpenterdom1639 5 жыл бұрын
Pete Saravia yup sure didn’t learn how to make $300k a year without being humble first. Peanut butter and jealous little Petey!!! Es ok bro es ok
@alexmightybeans
@alexmightybeans 4 жыл бұрын
Did you get any concrete in the holes
@greeneggs6828
@greeneggs6828 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a carpenter right, just curious possibly to learn something but why did you put a slight bevel on the top of the 4x4's? Love your videos dude
@dirtyharry6741
@dirtyharry6741 3 жыл бұрын
So water runs off
@greeneggs6828
@greeneggs6828 3 жыл бұрын
@@dirtyharry6741 i figured that, we use post caps that already have slopes on all sides so that water doesn't go in the grain of the 4x4 on top. Good to know incase their not available to use, good option
@nickgilbert2758
@nickgilbert2758 6 жыл бұрын
That seemed like a lot of concrete for wooden posts ? Great skills though
@jasonmurphy435
@jasonmurphy435 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Gilbert i was thinkin the same.i usually just mix up with some hardcore
@jasonmurphy435
@jasonmurphy435 6 жыл бұрын
well aggregate and rocks to fill it up
@davidguy6408
@davidguy6408 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if it was you or patreau that dumped the wheelbarrow full of concrete but the rule with me and my guys if you dump a barrow full of concrete it’s a case of beer lol
@richkjoseph1973
@richkjoseph1973 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment yet, don’t know where your from but here in west TEXAS it’s a bottle of crown!!!
@matthewcochrane7511
@matthewcochrane7511 4 жыл бұрын
yup a box of heinekins if you drop the barrow
@lewisheasman
@lewisheasman 4 жыл бұрын
Crown larger in Texas? Thought that was Aussie beer lol
@seanclarke6733
@seanclarke6733 3 жыл бұрын
I did work experience with concreters when I was 15 and dropped the first load immediately and got out of buying a slab of beers cause I was too young
@damo100able
@damo100able 4 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong but when he cut the top of the post off at an angle the angle seems to be running towards the fence which is a no no.
@mcnowski
@mcnowski 4 жыл бұрын
cement eats away at the wood really quickly, will be rotted out.. Should always use metal anchors in the cement.
@marccarter4469
@marccarter4469 3 жыл бұрын
No absolutely don't use metal anchors(we call them met posts) Bowdean has no idea how to erect a fence.
@mcnowski
@mcnowski 3 жыл бұрын
@@marccarter4469 Yeah, Ive actually replaced many fences because the builder never used anchors and the post's rotted out.
@marccarter4469
@marccarter4469 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcnowski I am a fencing contractor and the most rotten posts we remove are those in met posts they are complete rubbish and if are still using them I'm glad you're not doing a fence for me.
@mcnowski
@mcnowski 3 жыл бұрын
@@marccarter4469 To each their own bud. I do know I'm staring at a fence I built years ago using concrete post anchors and its still just as strong as the day I made it, and I live in a temperate rain forest where everything rots quick.
@stoverhomeservicesllc1063
@stoverhomeservicesllc1063 6 жыл бұрын
How did you manage to turn a one day job in to three,?
@davetheflave2570
@davetheflave2570 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Stover those are my thoughts exactly, in their defense the fence turned out nice but like you said a one day job. I installed 150’ of fencing 3 rail 6’ tall with 3.5 inch pickets and a 6 foot double swinging gate in 3 days. Oh and I mixed all my concrete in a wheel barrow
@bsnoonan
@bsnoonan 6 жыл бұрын
How the hell do you guys dig a hole, and set a post, have enough time for it to dry and then build the rest in one day?
@israelarreolasanchez814
@israelarreolasanchez814 6 жыл бұрын
HQ DIY quick setting cement.
@bsnoonan
@bsnoonan 6 жыл бұрын
@@israelarreolasanchez814 and how long does that take to set for a post before you can work?
@israelarreolasanchez814
@israelarreolasanchez814 6 жыл бұрын
HQ DIY back in the day when I did this on a daily. Two experience installers, we would get to the job site teardown fence, dig holes and cement the post in before lunch. We would take 30- 60 min lunch and the post would be set rock hard. We could do up to 125 ft of fence in one day. For new construction. My partner and I would do up 550 ft in one day more like 6 hours. No post settings. Another crew would do the post setting before hand. Those were the days.
@BryanPCC
@BryanPCC 5 жыл бұрын
Lap joints? Classy!
@jacobeshack9241
@jacobeshack9241 5 жыл бұрын
Was your saw set to like 5 degrees when you topped the posts?
@Timespider
@Timespider 4 жыл бұрын
@layne stayley It's For Run-Off
@RMMaryport
@RMMaryport 4 жыл бұрын
How much did the concrete wagon cost. Wouldn't like to have seen that bill lol
@KaMcRaZy07
@KaMcRaZy07 6 жыл бұрын
I bought a mini digger so I don’t have use that two man post hole. I think it was worth buying it back saver
@ScottBrownCarpentry
@ScottBrownCarpentry 6 жыл бұрын
Good call man, we were talking about that as we were lifting that thing out of the ground !
@ScottBrownCarpentry
@ScottBrownCarpentry 6 жыл бұрын
Good call mate! We were talking about that as we were lifting the machine out of the holes
@KaMcRaZy07
@KaMcRaZy07 6 жыл бұрын
Glyn Owen ahh ? Mini digger with a post hole attachment is the same thing without you doing all the work to lift and etc
@KaMcRaZy07
@KaMcRaZy07 6 жыл бұрын
Glyn Owen and a back saver. being in the building Industry for 10years now it takes out of you
@SebastiaanMollema
@SebastiaanMollema 6 жыл бұрын
Hi scott! Great video man! Cool to see the process!
@ScottBrownCarpentry
@ScottBrownCarpentry 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Sebastiaan
@Mixwell1983
@Mixwell1983 6 жыл бұрын
Curious as to why you built the fence with the braces facing inside the yard and not having the presentation side showing?
@ScottBrownCarpentry
@ScottBrownCarpentry 6 жыл бұрын
The client asked to have that side showing to match the existing fence
@Mixwell1983
@Mixwell1983 6 жыл бұрын
Scott Brown Carpentry oh okay. I dont know why they would have the fence facing that way to begin with. If the neighbor pays then sure but if I paid i am keeping the good side towards my yard unless my fence faced a street or whatever then it would look odd.
@jamesf8651
@jamesf8651 5 жыл бұрын
How to be a rookie, cud the concrete not be poured neatly into the hole or add a dry mix and then pour water from a bucket into holes
@mangravy2000
@mangravy2000 6 жыл бұрын
If the customer wanted privacy where there were no crack between palings would you rabbit (lap joint) the edges?
@ScottBrownCarpentry
@ScottBrownCarpentry 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats an option. I think they will be growing a slim hedge in front of it so that should be ok
@mikes8218
@mikes8218 4 жыл бұрын
Concrete truck for 8 or 10 holes?
@jamiehughes3497
@jamiehughes3497 6 жыл бұрын
Scott why didn't you use Postcrete mate? A concrete truck seems a little unnecessary!
@RafikiWorks
@RafikiWorks 4 жыл бұрын
Great Soundtrack Choices Mate. Cheers
@bobjim4202
@bobjim4202 5 жыл бұрын
im so confused... what was the point of running the line across the top and checking it with a block if you are just gonna pop a line and cut it at the end anyway??
@mattmccabe6366
@mattmccabe6366 5 жыл бұрын
bob jim so the bottom of the Palings are flush
@rcr76
@rcr76 6 жыл бұрын
I normally make bird boxes for the punters with the cuttings .i love a new pailin
@born2ride149
@born2ride149 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the fence the wrong way round? Straight side facing the house.
@nickwalton8864
@nickwalton8864 6 жыл бұрын
Great fence. What spacing are the posts? Cheers Nick
@batbawls
@batbawls 3 жыл бұрын
3:26 Congrats on the fence/driveway
@benpaynter
@benpaynter 5 жыл бұрын
Do you not find that concreting wooden posts in like that rots the bottoms faster?
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 5 жыл бұрын
How would you find that out?
@benpaynter
@benpaynter 5 жыл бұрын
@@DiscoFang When I've been asked to replace posts I tend to find that soft wood which is totally encased in concrete rots because the concrete contains the moisture that runs down / seeps into the post
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Paynter Which country are you in? What timber was and is used? This timber is CCA treated pine which lasts fantastically in concrete. My previous question was a little facetious - I regularly break open posts dug up for landscaping & reno projects and find the posts in fine condition. The treatment stops the rot & the concrete actually isolates the timber from weathering. Even steel reinforcing hardly rusts at all when encased in properly vibrated concrete.
@rongliu3043
@rongliu3043 4 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the tool to dig the hole
@nathanbuckleey6937
@nathanbuckleey6937 6 жыл бұрын
Fencing 10 years so this is just too funny I'd of dug an boarded that on my own in a day an concrete truck 😂😂
@Arsopu
@Arsopu 5 жыл бұрын
bukkss bukks literally just wrote a similar comment before reading this haha, Would've put the posts in on m my way home and finished it in the morning on my way to another job. Haha, 3 days! 🤣
@The40Glock1
@The40Glock1 5 жыл бұрын
Dry set keep releveling while framing it and nailing it and add water to the concrete at the end its only a nail on and idk whats up with thos end cuts on the rails
@1989Chrisc
@1989Chrisc 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Billy big balls...
@GrowingOrganicTvShow
@GrowingOrganicTvShow 3 жыл бұрын
Always wash the concrete off the posts after pouring concrete. Don't wait till it dries
@raymondray3232
@raymondray3232 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, just one friendly comment, When it rains like that or ground is soaked, concrete should dry atleast 3 days. If not concrete underneat becomes brittle
@avidreader6097
@avidreader6097 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow a cement truck for these few posts? What a mess. But it’s in there good I’m sure if it! 😂 We just put 22 posts into ground to make veggie garden. 12’ long, 4’ hole. Took about 1.5 bags of 80lbs quick Crete. Added water. Done! No meds. Cheap, too! Accident my Backed minivan into one. Did not budge 😂
@RandomGuy-qn2ub
@RandomGuy-qn2ub 3 жыл бұрын
Why it take you multiple days to do a few feet with with multiple guys?
@bobmcgrath1272
@bobmcgrath1272 3 жыл бұрын
Posts should be sitting on gravel for drainage, concrete against wood is not a good long term solution. To help against rotting I’d have painted the posts where they will be sitting in the concrete, silicon around post where it goes into the concrete to seal against water ingress and the cut at the top of the posts to let water run off isn’t steep enough to prevent rotting. And....finally what happens when the wood swells? I didn’t see any provision for that movement? Looks nice and straight though
@raymond0996
@raymond0996 6 жыл бұрын
Why Australia all fence have to notching fence post for rail.new Zealand does not?which is good?
@Arsopu
@Arsopu 5 жыл бұрын
Raymond Jonson mortised posts FTW, or bolt and bracket so the bolt is holding the whole rail and can't split. 65mm steel posts and brackets probably offer best results. Just not 150x50 posts unless you want it to look like a timber roller coaster in a month.
@Louispr730
@Louispr730 5 жыл бұрын
6:25 inside the pool of concrete, lol
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