How to build a full carbon surffoil board: Part 2

My attempt of making a full carbon board for my surf foil. Part 2
I know that I have to use a respirator now! At the time of this build I wasn't aware of the dangers of Epoxy and carbon fibre sanding dust.
Do you have any questions? Let me know in the comments.

[@BenjaminFriant]

That was such a clean work ! Great job !

[@Dzjiefoils]

Thanks!

[@bricolrider2072]

love testing monent and nice paint

[@henriknordgren2432]

Loved the build, looks just great! Thanks for sharing

[@Dzjiefoils]

Thanks for your comment and compliments. Still enjoying this board after almost 3 years 🤙

[@pimdegraaf2634]

NICE!!!! Toffe Serie Geert! Mooi werk!

[@Dzjiefoils]

Thanks. Als ik dit nu terugkijk denk ik… wat ben je nou allemaal aan het klooien joh! Kan allemaal veel efficiënter.. maar hij doet het nog steeds erg goed!

[@blooskyy7]

Well done, amazing board!

[@Dzjiefoils]

Thanks!

[@khalafshaheem2297]

Your work is very good 👍

[@Dzjiefoils]

Thanks!

[@drrock5356]

The ridges on the carbon at the video start are resin ridges, which occur when the cloth is over saturated. Two easy ways to prevent resin ridges: 1. Don't use too much resin, or squeegy off the extra, and 2. Wrap the peel ply with breather cloth, which will soak up extra resin, preventing resin ridges from forming.

[@Achtenvijftig]

Nice, mooi covid project. M’n handen jeuken.

[@samnamias1873]

Excellent work!

[@Dzjiefoils]

Sam Namias thanks!

[@Samsplayground]

Nice work! But have to wonder, do you wish you'd installed the leash plug before laminating?

[@Dzjiefoils]

Hi Sam, yes the leash plug wasn’t timed right. Next time i’ll mount it in the carbon before I start the hot coats.

[@hdek8511]

Moesten de tracks van je foilbox niet gelijk zitten met je xps of eps?ik heb nu helaas ook dat probleem dus je videos zijn wel nuttig

[@Dzjiefoils]

Die finboxen moeten er iets bovenuit steken zodat je ze open kan schuren

[@Dzjiefoils]

Je schuurt dan je carbon of glasvezel open en je schuurt een paar mm van je finbox af zodat alles gelijk loopt met de onderkant van je board.

[@rz3877]

Nice foil mate

[@Dzjiefoils]

Thanks mate!

[@supertramp2883]

Hey, where did u find the foil mount? Amazing work!

[@Dzjiefoils]

Hi, I bought it from a private seller from Belgium via Marktplaats.nl (the Dutch craigslist)

[@NCLSUGRT]

Do you think it was okay to sand the carbon directly after vacuum or would it have been better to add a layer of epoxy as to not ruin the carbon weave?

[@Dzjiefoils]

Yes that would have been better. But the peelply leaves small dots of epoxy on the carbon. So im mostly sanding epoxy. Only in the hight spots i’m sanding the carbon. And because I have 3 layers of carbon I wasn’t really worried about losing carbon strength. But next time I will use less layers of carbon and finish with a thin fibreglass layer. So I only sand the fibreglass.

[@AlchemySurfboards]

@@Dzjiefoils would u lightly sand each layer of carbon or add a hot coat to the carbon layers theyn a final glass layer then sand?

[@Dzjiefoils]

@@AlchemySurfboards if you put a hotcoat on the carbon then you don’t need aa glass layer on top of that. If I would build this board again I would use 1 layer of carbon on the top and the bottom , sand away the imperfections from. The vacuumbag process and a hotcoat or filler coat with microballoons. Sand that layer down and do a final hotcoat.

[@AlchemySurfboards]

@@Dzjiefoils yeah that sounds awesome after layering up the coats the carbon seems like it would be enough for average to below average waves.

[@ronaldjansen4305]

Verry nice video, can you tell me where you did order the logo stickers?

[@Dzjiefoils]

Thanks! www.etsy.com/shop/JoinTheCreativeSide

[@ronaldjansen4305]

Okay im on the website, its possible to upload your own design logo there? But witch kind of paper/sticker material is suiteble for use on the board/ the epoxy? I see that some people are using rise paper for there board when they want a logo or something like that.

[@Dzjiefoils]

Rice paper is the way to go. I didn’t know that at the time. But it works the best.

[@ronaldjansen4305]

@@Dzjiefoils Hello I did try a sticker of vinyl, but the end result is not 100% wat i'm looking for. I See that you used a sticker with a transparent piece and white logo. What kind of material is it that you used?

[@Dzjiefoils]

@@ronaldjansen4305 I don't know what material the sticker is. Sorry! I just ordered it on the Etsy page.

[@Helic4]

Very nice build !! I'm making my own surfboard right now. I still dont get why you put pigment in the hot coat however ^^ Esthetics ?

[@Dzjiefoils]

Thanks! I think what you saw me put in the hotcoat is UV protection stuff. It protects the epoxy from discoloring due to UV rays.

[@wesleydewit4831]

Vet board! Wij gaan het zelf ook proberen. Ik heb alleen 2 vraagjes: 1: Hoe heb je de witte foil rails vastgemaakt in de high density track box? 2: Welk frees bitje gebruik je bij 16min20 en waar heb je die gekocht?

[@Dzjiefoils]

Ha Wesley,.. 1. De vinboxen heb ik als 1 stuk gekocht. Foil track box noem je dat volgens mij. Je kunt ze tegenwoordig gewoon op Alieexpress kopen volgens mij. 2. Ik heb een frees gebruikt met geleider wieltje. Als je dit op google intypt zie je vanzelf wat ik bedoel. Het wieltje loopt langs de binnenkant van de finbox waardoor de frees precies de contouren van de box volgt.

[@jamesharvey5544]

How did you know where to drill the holes before routering out the track boxes?

[@Dzjiefoils]

You could still see the outlines of the finbox if you looked very close. So I found the middle of the box and drilled there.

[@greyhnd001]

Where did you get rhe blank styrophone board?

[@Dzjiefoils]

It's a leftover construction material. I got it second hand from a guy who insulated his floors with it and poured concrete on top of it. He had a lot of Styrofoam boards leftover. So technically it's an eco board :p.

[@МаксимФенько-ц7г]

Hello! what are you covering the board at 14.15? Thank you

[@Dzjiefoils]

Hi! I just use normal epoxy. The same I used for laminating the carbon.

[@nordblick]

Looks good. Does it work? 🏄‍♂️ Where did you get the ultra large EPS block? Try to find one but there are normally not larger then 1m x 60cm...

[@Dzjiefoils]

I’m currently working on editing part 3... so you will see if it works! I bought the EPS from a guy who built his own house and used the eps to insulate the floor. He had ordered too much so he sold some leftovers on Marktplaats.nl (the Dutch craigslist/ebay). Before I saw his add I was struggling too to find these large pieces of EPS.

[@nordblick]

@@Dzjiefoils i tend to glue smaller blocks and hope - with a sandwich layout - it will be string enough. If not... I learned a lesson LOL.

[@Dzjiefoils]

Oliver sounds like a plan! What are you gonna use as sandwich material? Maybe add a carbon stringer in the middle? Just glueing two halves together with epoxy resin and put some layers of carbon in between to act as the stringer?

[@Dzjiefoils]

@Oliver Let me know how tour build is coming along!

[@tahfiet]

That looks great. I am just about to start my own build. What is the final weight and what sort of carbon did you use?

[@Dzjiefoils]

@tahfiet Thanks mate: the final weight is 3.9kg but I think I can make the next one lighter. This time I used 3 layers of 200g/m2 plain weave carbon on both the top and the bottom of the board. But I believe it’s strong enough to use only 2 layers. www.carbonwinkel.nl/mobile/product/413-carbon-weefsel-200-g-m-aero

[@tahfiet]

@@Dzjiefoils Dank je wel! Now that I have seen part 3 I only recognised how small that board is 🤩👍. Great job and nice foiling. I hope the borders will be open soon to enjoy the Dutch waves…

[@Dzjiefoils]

tahfiet Dutch waves are the best! 😖 you better drive south to some French waves instead of north.

[@Dzjiefoils]

tahfiet let me know how you build is coming along!

[@tobiatorroni5838]

I have built my own foil board too but when I do the hot coat it comes really bad like your fist time what should I do?

[@Dzjiefoils]

Ah thats too bad! Make sure you clean the board very well before you start your hot coat. I cleaned my board with acetone before I did the hotcoat. That, or the paint caused a reaction to the epoxy. I now use ammonia mixed with hot water to clean before hotcoat. Make sure all the water+ammonia is evaporated before doing the hotcoat. Also make sure that you apply and let the hotcoat dry in a dust free area. Every particle of dust that touches your board can create a fish eye in the epoxy. I also sometimes use a bit of tape to run over the board that picks up all the dust still on the board after cleaning. Watch my other video’s for more tips and tricks.

[@Dzjiefoils]

And send me a pic of your board when its finished! I’m very curious 🧐

[@tobiatorroni5838]

@@Dzjiefoils thank you so much for the tips but I don’t know how to send a photo on KZbin 😂

[@Dzjiefoils]

Maybe send me a DM on instagram: groene6f is my account name

[@marinpeault4232]

Incredible What's his weight?

[@Dzjiefoils]

It’s 4,7 kg. I used 3 layers of epoxy on both sides. That is way too much! 1 layer would have been sufficient. So it could have weighed a lot less.

[@heavysky7131]

Видео о том, как не надо обрабатывать карбон и красить из балончика. По мне в итоге вышло ужасно. Прочно, но не красиво...

[@Dzjiefoils]

Yes, I know that now! I now make sure I use proper protection materials such as a respirator while working with epoxy and sanding etc.

[@esurfrider7687]

Think you’ve been huffing too much epoxy bro

[@Dzjiefoils]

Yep. I had too many brain cells.. now i’m normal again. And bought a respirator