How to Build a Wind Turbine Tower: Part Two - 65' Gin Pole Tower | Missouri Wind and Solar

[@dogfaceboy25]

That turbine spin sure is better at 64 feet. Very informative video Jeff, and thanks again for taking the time to familiarize us with wind turbine functions.

[@mickeysmith5096]

That is damn nice . Love it . About to put mine up . Bought from you 10 years ago. Take care Jeff😊

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Thanks Derek. I will be doing more on 2 turbines, the same , at the different heights. Most people don't believe it more power in the wind the higher you go.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Wyatt said you did, i haven't seen it but i will be checking it out Tore. I am glad you had yours on your garage first so you could see the difference. I have been watching the wind meters and the wind is very steady at 64 foot over the dirty wind 18 foot.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Thanks Charles. It makes a BIG difference. The wind meter usually shows about 14 mph up at 60 feet and 4 mph at 18 feet. The 60 foot wind speed is pretty steady wind and the 18 foot wind speed seems to be eratic, up and down quickly. Gotta bring it down again and put a white enamel final coat of paint on it.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Yes it does. I talked to a friend of mine today that has the same size pipe as mine, his is 2 3/8" oil drilling pipe and his tower is 120 feet high. Holy shit that's high. He has to pull it up with his tractor.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Thanks. I have been wanting to do this for a long time. I will have more to come on it. Next i will get two matching turbines hooked up to matching battery banks and show the difference.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

That is a good question. I would think that a ground rod to the tower would help. I never really hear of anyone getting hit.

[@SkyMaxWind]

Finally someone gets it. good instructional video. I hope to see power outputs from 2 wind turbines. Thumbs up

[@derekthegreatgonzo]

I love it!!! I have been thinking about the same thing you just did for awhile now. I have had my turbines at just 10ft since I had them. I've been wanting to get them up higher since I got them. the best way to tell how much faster the wind is up high I watch the tree tops. great video.

[@SlackerNet]

thats what i am trying to figure out...... Ty for the input Jeff...all your help is appreciated

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Thanks Orlan. I am starting to assemble a battery bank inside and a matching wind turbine to do a comparison at the 2 different heights. I want to show the difference in output from 2 matching systems. Hopefully people will be able to understand why they don't get a lot of power at 18 feet. Mine are not surrounded by trees either. You are in a different wind area being in the wide open desert.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Thanks slacker. Hell any tower is better then no tower. Rohn sounds good. Be careful with a Rohn and no guy wires. There is a lot of lateral force on a wind turbine.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Thanks DW. I will be doing more updates on wind turbine performance between the 2 heights.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

It will get you power at 30 feet . Winter winds are the best for power. Summer winds are low and not a lot of power anyway. Love to see your video when you get it up.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Thanks muddy. It was a lot of work but man it works sooo good.

[@normellow]

The voice of reason.

[@richarddowner4292]

you forgot to say it is a 3 phase ac output wind genny. some people will ask you that.. I love the extra big black heat shrink that's a great Idea double it up = safer.. you should grease the connectors on the 3 pin wind genny to stop corrosion or even heat shrink them to.. HEIGHT = POWER... great video thanks JEFF..

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Your right on the garden and being able to live without power. Have you ever lived without power ?

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

That's cool. I want to see your video when you get it made.

[@somewherewayoutwest]

Very encouraging. I'm working on moving my victory pma out from under all the trees here. 1. convert to ac 3 phase.(easy to do). done. 2. run 175ft. 10/3 cable to big old stump. Done. 3. build brace and buy the guy wires to attach 20ft pole to big ole stump. not done yet. I'll post a video on my channel when i'm done later this week or first of next. .....Thanks again....

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

The wind seldom comes from more the 2 directions so the wind turbine never really turns 360 degrees. If it dooes it will unwind itself. People have been using the same tension system for years with no problems. Slip rings burn out and add to the cost.

[@kennethwoodward4669]

Very cool videos I’d like to see when you couple solar panels in conjunction with these turbines that 65’ makes all the difference in the world

[@cucukikiable]

Who Is watching this un 2020???

[@ricochetaz3846]

Hello Jeff. I am curious about the need for lightning protection. How, what, and where should it be utilized on any stand-alone wind turbine setup? I live in the Sonoran desert east of Tucson, AZ and we get some badass summer thunderstorms (if it rains here) with a shitpot load of ass hair curling lighting. It often blows the hell out of mesquite trees and occasionally a saguaro cactus. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Rick in Pantano, AZ. yes, the ghost town.

[@walusz73]

Looks great Jeff. Thanks for the video.

[@reginaldpotts2037]

When lowering or raising the gin pole you should ALWAYS have the brake switch applied as the pole can 'jerk' more than normal and blades hit the pole when rotating.

[@kf4dcy]

thanks i will be watching for them.

[@ian57812]

Great video Jeff. Having the two anomometers at two different hights was a stroke of geneous on your part. I cant wait to see comparisons in strong winds as we all know the wind cubes its self.What will it be at 20 mph at 18ft and at 60ft? and then theres the power side to look at. I drewling just thinking about it all.

[@boojiecentoobie4272]

At 13:30 Do you have the brake on?

[@edwardseth1230]

Great product for the price i am seeing on your website. Question: is there locking mechanism.. if the wind is too great for the turbine to handle in a storm from ground? would it be appropriate to install an aircraft warning light on the turbine itself if you live in an area where there's an airport or helicopter landing pads.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

That's what a brake switch is for.

[@klime938]

How long are the guide wires and the other pole used to hoist it up and is the winch bolted down permenatly

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

I forgot about the terminal grease ,thanks Richard.

[@larrykemp7296]

nice looking tower its will make it nice to test on

[@gailjohnson6670]

Excellent video...Thank you..

[@walusz73]

cant wait to see the performance differences.

[@cabletech13]

And what was the radius for the guide wires?

[@jimjakosh2506]

Nice video, Jeff. I think someone must have asked if that wire gets wound up at the top if the turbine keeps turning in one direction- you say it will unwind? I don't have any room for the guy wires if I were to go that high . I just measured the pine trees behind the barn and they are 60 ft tall I was thinking of going up the back of the barn which has 10 ft side walls, but those trees would block most of the wind. The one thing I would have to figure out is if I can grid tie a wind generator to hook into the output from my solar panels. If I could do that, I'd try putting one up about 25ft just to get the extra energy at night. Is there a way to convert that 3 phase output to single phase 220VAC?

[@richarddowner4292]

any time bud...that's what youtube is for. helping one an other :-)

[@teamskovhugger8135]

Hey where did you get these gauges for wind speed they are really nice 👍😊

[@wabuminifarm3437]

Do you have any amp readings off this yet? I am also ( like you know ) using your 14 mag 12volt 9blade Raider Around 30 foot off the ground, and it is Awesome. If yours is working like mine then you should be able to catch around 5 amps or so in winds as low as 7-10mph. It is hard to tell the watts with my setup but in those low winds 7-10mph, it seems around 10-50 watts using my sun 10.8 - 30 volt 600watt grid tie inverters. I want to see what 60 foot off the ground can do :)

[@chadd01971]

Ok, maybe this is a dumb question, but how do you keep the power cable running from your turbine, through your pipe from twisting and eventually breaking?

[@scott98390]

So what keeps the wind turbine from twisting the cable inside as it spins around? Is this just never a problem?

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

It unwinds itself if it does. The wind seldom comes from more then 2 directions. Seldom does the turbine ever do a 360.

[@InvalidMemberAccount]

what keeps the power cable from twisting inside the pipe?

[@ChristophersVanLife]

Awsome video.

[@ricktaylor3124]

Can you put up a link for where to purchase the 3 wire connector you're using?

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Thanks for watching. Please let us know if you have any other questions. Here's the link windandsolar.com/yellow-10-12-awg-butt-splice-connector-8-pack/

[@ricktaylor3124]

@@MissouriWindandSolar Thanks for the quick response, although I'm referring to the three wire jack and not the butt connectors.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

It hasn't been hit yet. We have had lighting storms here for awhile.

Nice . I have my turbine om 40 feet now and i do now see more stedy reedings. :-)

[@1995a1995z]

What was your mean power output?

[@mr.c6383]

where does a person get long lengths of pipe for the tower? what is the wall thickness of the pipe? how do you connect each section together?

[@brandonmcbride3983]

It looks like drill pipe. They're approx. 32' each joint. They have collars you can screw together, then weld if you like.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Don't know about the Skymax wind turbines. BTK has done a dis service to Hy energy ( Windmax ) wind turbines. He had to replace the original windmax blades with blue plastic ones to get them to work , then he goes on to say they are the best. Why the blue plastic blades then ?

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

I have been using this system for years. The wind seldom comes from more then 2 directions. If the wind turbine ever does a 360 turn it will unwind itself.

[@wabuminifarm3437]

Now that you know how to do it Jeff, heh come on over and build me one :p

[@kirknoble2234]

we need to c some amps

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

No wind turbine i know of is at 400 feet. Would be cool though. I will be doing videos with amperage at different heights.

[@kf4dcy]

also i have thought of using a telephone pole or power line pole to pull the mast up to. all you need is the wench and a pulley at the top of the pole. you can have a mast that's higher than the pole by a third higher. if you have a pole that 20 feet high then you can pull up a 30 foot mast. if the pole is 40 foot. you can pull up a 60 foot mast. that's info i got from other ham radio operators. one thing more you would need is a v shaped locator at the top to center and stabilize it to the pole

[@kf4dcy]

you show voltage in most of you demonstrations. i would like to see amperage output to see the possible charge rates at wind speeds. plus height is crucial for available wind. the higher you go the better off you'll be. at a crazy height of 400' you'll get a more constant and higher wind speeds. but that would be cost ineffective to go that high. unless you rich. at that point, you could afford grid power being dumped into a massive dummy load.

[@murasasarkani2317]

great..

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Thanks!

[@CrapPolice]

Thanks for the wind turbine tower how to diy build man

[@garyrmoore794]

Why isn't anything mentioned about guid wires

[@ASCENSION4USALL]

How do you stop the wires going down the poll from twisting up?

[@RedWingsninetyone]

Usually a slip ring, but I didn't see one installed here. Probably anticipating the wind not changing directions too much at that height.

[@jesuserazo9169]

Do you sell them?

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

We sell the wind turbines, but not the towers. Thanks for watching!

[@dirtysouthtv2209]

The garden should be first. You can live without power--but you cannot live without food. Otherwise, it looks like a good plan--similar to what we did in the Florida Panhandle last year/this year. Plant plenty of Kale...

[@muddymuddymuddmann]

swweet work jeff. nice tower. MUDDy

[@pyramydseven]

Let's put that close to power lines and harvest the bleed off. PVC vegetable towers would look good on that bad boy.

[@rolloverriderpgr]

OUCH! I did this in the Army (MOS36D20) and you actually did great but the hard way! Are you going to be dropping the tower a lot the reason for so much cement work? Why not mount the wench on a truck or car? There is still a risk for either to move believe it or not. The vehicle of course. I've seen brakes left off and slabs slide after a good yank unless there is a rod or pole as an anchor like a 3'Dx 8W or wider" hole, 6" steel pole, cement down center and side of pole and foot of anchor then a 2- 3/4" bolts or 12" threaded rod, washer, nut stuck down the center of the pole in the cement that fit a steel I beam or plate for the wench mount. Also I really do hope you deburr the edges on all your exposed metal before setting in concrete next time so no one stumbles and gets cut on them. How long does the grease stay on the pole by the turbine? I know how the winds are here and sometimes it's pretty brisk and knowing how grease can migrate in the wind I know there is always the little needed to keep it from rusting but can you paint it with Rustoleum instead? Oh, sorry, but I also did aircraft, machine shop tool and die, construction, and other jobs in life and I get carried away! Still a nice job! Ask an expert on how many times you can drop the pole before it starts to lose it's tensile (?) strength. That could be expensive. I did the same thing for a radio station mobile unit in '81 and it worked great about 30 times. I'm glad it was just a directional antenna! Scared the bejeebies out of me when it buckled at the center guy wire joint. Weak point. Glad it didn't go through the windshield of the truck!

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Thanks for the good info

[@derekthegreatgonzo]

just watching nature should tell people the higher they go the more power could be gained. look at the tree tops or simply go fly a kite!! the higher they go the less work you have to do. I've been a believer for a long long time. I just have to get mine up there know. i'd love to see a 100ft tower!!! that would really make them eat air!!

[@scott98390]

These are great videos, and an excellent system. I'd like to offer one thought tho - it's pronounced an-a-mo-meter, not a-nah-meter. :-) You're driving the meteorologists batty.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

Breezeking made 17 video's of my wind turbine mounted on a trailer 8 foot high, that's right , 8 foot high. He kept saying he wasn't getting the performance. Fearlessthinker then said, i am going to draw a power curve chart on the Missouri wind turbine using the data from Breezeking's videos. Both Breezeking and Fearlessthinker set up our wind turbine to fail.

[@cabletech13]

Dumb question other than maintenance why would you want to brake the turbine?

[@donaldsmith3048]

Why don't you use a slip ring? Looks like after time the wires will get all twisted! Without a slip ring it may work for short time installs, but I am sure that after 10-15 years the wire will twist up. No I don't think it will turn the same number of time clockwise as counterclockwise! Besides the more a wire is twisted bent shortens the life of the wire. Yes I know what can happen to wires that bend, and twist alot. And it can be a real pain in the bottem to find a interment break in the middle of a long wire!

[@firelight10101]

9 blade I believe he said in the video.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

I will be right over Jason, just have the beer cold.

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

I believe 84 feet

[@derekthegreatgonzo]

i'm still laughing about people not understanding how to hook the 3 phase up to the rectifier!!! I liked your way to explain it. cover the plastic wire cover with black tape and hook them up!! it doesn't matter!!

[@ian57812]

I am guessing its Alan the Solar and Wind man from down under.

[@wabuminifarm3437]

I make home brew and buy beer, But I always keep it cold :) Hay there is a building about 5-6 years old just up the road from me, It is 8,770 something square foot building on almost 4 acres of land for sale. I think the land goes all the way down to the river Hydro power anyone?, Just in case you might wanna expand to the Seattle area,, hehe

[@MissouriWindandSolar]

There is no such thing as REAL WORLD watts, curve or anything else. That was a tem coined by Terry, the owner of TLG windpower years ago. He used it to sell his wind turbines.

[@ian57812]

Chad the wind rarely does 360 and if it does it equals its self out over time drop wire much better than slip rings.

[@jdpsmith]

Where is the "How"

[@scotts595]

👍👍😎

[@SlackerNet]

Nicely Done Jeff TY for the video I am currently working on a 40ft tower project...it's very early in the design phase...considering using a self supporting rohn series 55 tower with house bracees at 10 and 20 ft since i am in the city and space is tight. no room for guy wires on my small piece of property MWANDS dot com is always the best palce for wind and solar products /R SS

[@karther2]

You would think that after the "g" damn lightning would soon follow in one way or another. Probably just a matter of time. I know that is where I lost all interest and quickly turned it off.

[@jimlovell8439]

CUSS TO MUCH

[@st.athansius4110]

Please don't blaspheme in your videos! Completely unnecessary. Thank you.

[@luckydubeinrc5165]

pretty wind meter!! dammit want one !