How to build dangerous game arrows

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Ranch Fairy

Ranch Fairy

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@Mikyll1969
@Mikyll1969 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching RF vids... he is thoughtful, analytical, and used actual data and facts... PLUS a little humor and sarcasm. This is the kind of guy you want to just hang out with and listen to stories and chill...
@C-23_
@C-23_ 3 жыл бұрын
Weird how happy I get when I see a new ranch fairy video pop up
@toddn.9928
@toddn.9928 3 жыл бұрын
I shot my Cape buffalo with a 70# bow, Rampage 250 spine, ethics outset 215 gr, and a Bishop 315gr single bevel. Total arrow weight about 880. Did much research and watching the RF, great setup.
@greenhoodedvigilante458
@greenhoodedvigilante458 3 жыл бұрын
What's your arrow length?
@spencerjohnson72
@spencerjohnson72 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even have to see the content before hitting the like button. Anything from RF is worth watching, for entertainment or knowledge or both.
@southboundeightyone4958
@southboundeightyone4958 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Ashby said he would find a setup that works on cape buffalo and hunt EVERYTHING with it, think about THAT for minute!!! Hunting any big game with one bone splitting rig is pretty awesome!!!
@jowho9992
@jowho9992 3 жыл бұрын
With a recurve.
@southboundeightyone4958
@southboundeightyone4958 3 жыл бұрын
@@jowho9992 YES SIR!!
@jowho9992
@jowho9992 3 жыл бұрын
@@southboundeightyone4958 What was the Doc's draw weight?
@jowho9992
@jowho9992 3 жыл бұрын
@@southboundeightyone4958 Ashbey shot traditional equipment with a draw weight of 70-80 pounds. If he shot a 900 grain arrow at 150 fps he never got past 45+pounds of K.E. and .59 momentum.
@jowho9992
@jowho9992 3 жыл бұрын
@@southboundeightyone4958 I doubt Ashby's 900 grain arrows ever flew that fast which means he most likely produced even less momentum.
@B.A.Bassangler
@B.A.Bassangler 3 жыл бұрын
Great video old man! The same (as you know) applies to 550 to 650 grain Whitetail hunters. TAKE THE RED PILL MY FRIENDS!
@frankspataro9714
@frankspataro9714 3 жыл бұрын
Mega adult arrows for some seriously beastly animals hope to see a follow up video be cool to see how well it holds up should def stay together
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Cape buffalo dispatched
@royshobe6642
@royshobe6642 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video
@ericwiitala5407
@ericwiitala5407 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully she gets the chance to go and would love to see her hunt and results. 🏹👍
@peterweikel7123
@peterweikel7123 2 жыл бұрын
I like larger single bevel but that bh is sick...I love it
@dustinhoffman9843
@dustinhoffman9843 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool stuff right there. Thanks for putting all this together. I've got the inserts and waiting on Sirius arrows now getting ready to start the process ol son
@timothylove8839
@timothylove8839 3 жыл бұрын
Currently waiting on my ranch fairy test kit as well!
@markeppinger6275
@markeppinger6275 3 жыл бұрын
Well you've been my smart friend for a couple yrs now and my whitetail arrow looks pretty similar. Its so much fun when you aren't scared of the shot. Thank you rf for what you do
@tylervanorman492
@tylervanorman492 3 жыл бұрын
Never shot a bow, what a great informational vid.
@ianmorcott3113
@ianmorcott3113 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, hunting season is getting closer. Building time is here! Thanks for the inspiration.
@samivey8416
@samivey8416 3 жыл бұрын
I'm VERY interested in this. It's just the beginning of so many more things to test and explore
@JHruby
@JHruby 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Would love to see a post hunt update. Hopefully she gets her shot.
@adm5618
@adm5618 3 жыл бұрын
As a mech eng, the chamfer still creates a stress concentration point on the rear end of the insert. A radius would be one step improved beyond it and is negligible in terms of machining. The principle is sound though
@shanerRC
@shanerRC 3 жыл бұрын
Ya you're right, that chamfered end does not reduce the stress riser.
@kenpaquette1654
@kenpaquette1654 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Troy, wish I could proclaim to be one of your dusters but i can't. I can however declare proudly to be fairy dirt. Yes i am a poor man and had to steal your knowledge and use it to solve my crossbow frustration . year's of frustration. Shooting bolts basically in the sky. I have totally missed deer at twenty yds. and a brutish black bear at forty- five yds. I was embarrassed and stopped telling my friends of all the missed shots i was talking. Not to mention all the lost bolts. I first took your advice and got fixed blade heads. I chose G5,s for ease in sharpening. I went with 125 gr. I had three different bolts to use. The bolts that are recommended by manufacturer with 100 gr. practice point fly deadly to thirty yds. Scary after that. I added 125 broadhead and it barried in target. took vain off one tore another. At this point i new I , (we) we're onto something. But damn i can't afford to lose a bolt each shot. I had some seven bolts that had been given to me years ago. I hated them to the point i stopped useing them. Shooting them was like trying to sight in a rifle with a bad scope. I decided what did i have to lose. Now i always had used plumbers tape to help toon my flappers so i had to go dirty to add more weight to broadhead. I add a stainless steal lock washer. You're not the only one to explore. I was amazed. I shit you not my group at forty yds was crazy . I even shot from standing position. Shot out to sixty yds. Deadly in sitting position. Sorry this is long but needed. I harvested three deer this year and if you will allow me to send photos i believe it shows everything you have taught . The first 41 yds. 3 blade fixed . bolt enters shoulder and deflected off shoulder traveling through deer along backbone and out opposite top off round. Bolt was half barried in ground ten yds. past deer. The second was a 60 yd. Pin shot i had to geuss at distance. Bolt breaks front shoulder and penetrates heart. This bolt brakes but i believe it broke from the deer running more than point off impact. Third was only a 23yd . shot i was hunting Turkey and forgot to switch bolts. So basically i had a flapper 100 gr. No lockwasher. I can't say for sure if flapper opened in flight but i would have missed at thirty yds. Bolt hit high shoulder low neck and then only penetrates 10 inches along backbone. Would you like photos ?.
@cronkthecrunk
@cronkthecrunk 2 жыл бұрын
🤯 I just remembered I've seen several Paleolithic points (I flint knap) that are flaked to a single bevel. They flaked a bevel on opposite sides. It just now came back to memory. I'll be tracking some videos down for you assuming that's of interest to you and your smart friends. 👍
@stevethurmond1158
@stevethurmond1158 2 жыл бұрын
Arrow flight aside… Higher FOCs have always been king. An Easton 2213 etc arrow with a decent 125 gr broadhead out of a bow shooting 180-190 fps would blow through a deer or black bear like hot butter. I’m glad to see high FOC and high total wts coming back. This is def not a fad.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
yep - the old ways are now fast and light If you want to bowhunt
@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610
@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610 3 жыл бұрын
I am supposed to go to South Africa in July for the 2nd time. I shoot 80lb+ Bow and have used 650-grain arrow last time with pass-through on Kudu, Wildebeest most of the way, Eland most of way until hit the opposite shoulder. Should have gone heavier with the giraffe went to the fletch. This year running mid -500 something Gold Tip Airstrikes. I am assuming I am going, but who knows. Currently not planning for Cape, but want to add it to my bucket list. When I go for Cape will go for ~1000 grain arrows. Thanks for the timely info.
@txtpqb
@txtpqb Жыл бұрын
with the ferrule diam of that broadhead, looks like you could still go with a .246 arrow shaft, and still achieve the low-friction shaft pass-through you're going for.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy Жыл бұрын
I believe so.
@kennyanstey44
@kennyanstey44 3 жыл бұрын
Always interesting, thanks RF
@johannloedolff710
@johannloedolff710 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Troy, make sure you don't get any glue on the taper at the back of the insert, epoxy on the taper will eliminate the desired effect.
@shanerRC
@shanerRC 3 жыл бұрын
The taper won't help the way he thinks anyway. The stress riser is still right at the last spot the arrow touches the insert. Unless the arrow bends at a 45ish degree angle, the chamfered end won't touch anything and will therefore for do nothing. I'm not sure who told him that would help.
@C.Fowler
@C.Fowler 2 жыл бұрын
Dang good video!! There is a ton of info and it all makes perfect since… like I’ve herd Troy say before, a lot of us are just going back to our archery roots,shooting kinda the same things we shot back in the day because that’s all there was back in the day… I know most of us aren’t shooting Cape buffalo, I get that… And yes, your mechanicals with todays bows will shoot thru a whitetail with the deer standing broadside… But!!!! What if it turns, or you hit a limb, or the deer doesn’t come in broadside? This setup or one similar allows me more options, and a higher percentage of finding my deer because I’m not worried about “BONES” stopping my setup. Stop arguing Ford verses Chevy and just think about the data for a while and what options it can open for you as an archer and a lot less sleepless nights waiting till morning for buddies to show up to start looking for your deer.
@thesickhorseranch
@thesickhorseranch 3 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about Ted Nugents Cape Buffalo hunt? Back in the early 80's I believe and damned if he wasn't armed with a heavy FOC setup as well. He mis-hit when the animal took a step as he released. The arrow was in the air long enough that a heart point-of-aim made for a diaphragm(or farther) point-of-impact at approximately 40 yds. The video is available on YT and a very exciting watch.
@Dynamice1337
@Dynamice1337 3 жыл бұрын
Ted Nugent is a garbage human.
@thesickhorseranch
@thesickhorseranch 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dynamice1337 You can think what you like but your statement says a helluva lot more about you than it does him.
@Dynamice1337
@Dynamice1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@thesickhorseranch I do think what I like. I think that Nugent is a low integrity hypocrite. He's a spineless coward and a bully. His communication style is a lot of one sided sniping from the sidelines with no real skin in the game. I'd rather tell him to his face, but I don't really have that option. I speak up when I see something that doesn't sit right with me. Ted Nugent fits in that category. I could think of 100 bowhunters I like better than that clown.
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
Such a fantastic video! Thank you.
@n.s.8803
@n.s.8803 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff RF😎
@zakarybarclay999
@zakarybarclay999 3 жыл бұрын
They make a glue adaptor that glues into the arrow and not screw in. I feel after you can still unscrew the broadhead after you glue it.
@zakarybarclay999
@zakarybarclay999 3 жыл бұрын
Just saw that it was a glue in adaptor. My bad.
@p.w.2149
@p.w.2149 3 жыл бұрын
Clear words 👍
@foltairguns3814
@foltairguns3814 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those wojo arrow inserts and what do you think of about a sand fill 240 spine 6mm arrow for dangerous game arrow
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Tuffhead.com And who in the hell gave you that idea? It’s terrible for tuning and arrow flight!! Message boards undoubtedly Go to ashby Bowhunting.org. Or follow my example here. And yes - she got her buffalo.
@foltairguns3814
@foltairguns3814 2 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKvPhGyVjqmmqaM this video game me the idea for the sand filled arrow.
@stephenballard3759
@stephenballard3759 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of filling a carbon with sand got bandied about on trad forums for a while, when we all knew heavy arrows were great but the data hadn't firmed up about FOC particularly, yet. Saw guys adding lengths of aircraft cable to the old pultruded carbons, too. I wouldn't do it, but I DO like drilling the pith out the front end of my bamboo arrows for the whole front 10" or so, and filling them up with homemade 3/16" hardwood dowels. Takes care of durability, impact strength, and FOC at the same time. Until all the good collars and long brass insets came out I wondered why people didn't add a carbon inside a carbon, or a dowel inside a carbon and use an out-sert.
@danielww9022
@danielww9022 3 жыл бұрын
29 views in the first 14 minutes after upload. It's a movement, friends. Thanks, RF.
@paul_is_here5813
@paul_is_here5813 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of josh bowmars setup, punched the heart three times with arrows! Big animals those cape buffalo are!
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
We intend to pass through. Not wound it to death!!!
@outdoorsman9384
@outdoorsman9384 2 жыл бұрын
And I'm going to say it again, ever since I went to a outsert collar I never splinter a arrow tip breakdown on a carbon shaft and I shoot hundreds of arrows at stumps each season we're before collars mushroomed tips over and over, it a fact I have been stump shooting for 40 years now and as far as game goes swapp is the name of the game and I always used extreme heavy arrow heavy FOC so I had that right forever and my opinion every carbon arrow should have outsert collars, amen
@mikebowerman5078
@mikebowerman5078 3 жыл бұрын
I am building new arrows at the moment. I have 10 of the 12 factors. The only two I don't have are the tapered shaft and single bevel broadhead. My total arrow weight is 650 grains and 24% foc.
@hall0341
@hall0341 3 жыл бұрын
What's your arrow set up?
@mikebowerman5078
@mikebowerman5078 3 жыл бұрын
@@hall0341 Goldtip Kenetic Peirce 250 spine with 135 grain Ethics Archery stainless/aluminum insert with a 200 grain piont. Four fletched with 2 inch feathers.
@hall0341
@hall0341 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping your arrow had a lowwer GPI than the vap rip tkos that I use. I'm at 648 grain and only 21 foc
@mikebowerman5078
@mikebowerman5078 3 жыл бұрын
@@hall0341 I don't use lighted jocks. I can never get them to tune. Are you using lighted nocks?
@hall0341
@hall0341 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using nockturnals. I haven't had an issues with tuning them, they are about 12-15 grains heavier than the standard nocks.
@chrississon2646
@chrississon2646 3 жыл бұрын
Bout time you came out with another vid , hurry up for the next one
@nathanielreed4051
@nathanielreed4051 3 жыл бұрын
How do you maintain the sharp broadhead with is glued to the arrow shaft, won't that limit the ability to sharpen it with the shaft attached to it?
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
No - I sharpen it on the arrow
@Don458Lott
@Don458Lott 22 күн бұрын
Have you ever designed an arrow/bolt for hunting dangerous game to be used by an airbow (like a Crossman M600). Wondering about the arrow/bolt's shaft/spine as the shaft is pushed from the tip and not the rear (would you think of the shaft as a VERY high-pressure vessel when you put on your Engineering thinking cap)? Note that there is very limited info. on airbow shafts and that they must fit the gun/bow’s barrel. I know when you hunt Cape Buff. you would like at least 750 grains setup but elephant/rhino should be over 1000 grains.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 21 күн бұрын
I haven't.
@steve8828
@steve8828 3 жыл бұрын
I do agree that most guys care more about how their set up looks, instead of how their set up works.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Fact
@toddbermingham3291
@toddbermingham3291 2 жыл бұрын
would this be best set up for elk ? or the new arrows in latest videos.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Oh to would be killer on elk. I recommend for elk - a goal of 600 grains But let your bare shaft testing show you what to shoot See my video - bare shaft tuning process and how to order ranch fairy arrows I’ll post the links to you
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYakdXacZrt-fNk Bare shaft process
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
How to order kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5XOp5ibZcymock The Ranch fairy store has the test kits - then ranch fairy EZ Button arrows for an exact match!
@B.A.Bassangler
@B.A.Bassangler 3 жыл бұрын
Even though the corners are champhered for compliance...for reducing shear stress, I would break every corner where a potential weak point may occur...with a radius. Put it in a disposable Al insert and chuck it up in a drill, and work it with a fine file. Maybe overkill, but who's to say, and onty takes a few seconds once chucked up.
@dennisoosterbaan6872
@dennisoosterbaan6872 3 жыл бұрын
Should you consider cutting the sleeve so that it ends over one of the thicker portions of the insert? That way it too is supported by the insert thickness inside the arrow shaft to help prevent possible breaking of the arrow shaft. Sort of like the insert bevel concept you make in the video . . .
@ryans9029
@ryans9029 2 жыл бұрын
Shortening the sleeve was a bad move. It should go PAST the end of the insert. By design. The further back.. the more resistant to shearing it will be. By shortening, there is nothing stopping it from shearing directly behind the insert.
@Bartimusblue27
@Bartimusblue27 2 жыл бұрын
No, you’ve just created a hard shear point on the exterior, which will cause a fracture. This is why the insert has a bevel on the factory end. After you cut it to length, you are supposed to sand the cut edge back to a smooth chamfer to allow for flex.
@corysmith4399
@corysmith4399 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this setup on some kind of test....ranch fairy line up 3 hogs and shoot through them lol
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Already done with 750 at 43# And 1,035 twice with my normal bow The pigs didn’t make it
@matthewkitler3601
@matthewkitler3601 3 жыл бұрын
@ranch fairy I believe you said hot melt for the direct bond just curious why not epoxy for more durability?
@brokespoke5424
@brokespoke5424 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your content.
@jayoglesby9685
@jayoglesby9685 3 жыл бұрын
You should get some of the bishop archery foc king arrows and test them out
@jakeeddy7050
@jakeeddy7050 3 жыл бұрын
If you flared the collar even a little bit even like 2 degrees on something like a jewelers ring resizer or flare tool it would leave room on the backend for arrow flex
@jakeeddy7050
@jakeeddy7050 3 жыл бұрын
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@brentdeal109
@brentdeal109 3 жыл бұрын
what your thoughs on crossbow thanks
@Matthewkreger1
@Matthewkreger1 3 жыл бұрын
I’m currently building my 750 grain set up
@chriso7529
@chriso7529 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Troy! Great Video as always! I was wondering how using a glue on broadhead would change the insert tuning process? Cheers!
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
The glue allows you to get it straight Using hot melt - no threads
@garrettstraffon608
@garrettstraffon608 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. But I must say you have talked me out of the flapper. But for my deer set up I just took a step back to what I used to use, and that’s a 125 grain muzzy. 25 grain outsert. Plenty for deer.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
They have bones too!! Hahahaaj
@cajun3197
@cajun3197 Жыл бұрын
This is super cool!
@ronmacdougall9612
@ronmacdougall9612 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Troy,how’s it going.Another good vid
@travisbrooks9531
@travisbrooks9531 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome… same concept as with whitetail hunting, just heavier more streamlined arrows.
@carsonhill1195
@carsonhill1195 3 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the kudopoint contour+plus?
@christianmullins435
@christianmullins435 3 жыл бұрын
When you are bare shaft tuning an arrow, how do you tell if a tear is a result of the rest or the nock needing to be tuned?
@BeatnTheSkunk
@BeatnTheSkunk 3 жыл бұрын
Tune one arrow with the rest. Then tune the other 11 arrows with the nock
@cpullic
@cpullic 3 жыл бұрын
The Valkyrie system is hard to beat as well - pretty much the same design.
@robertduga8068
@robertduga8068 3 жыл бұрын
for cape buffs, I'd have tapered shafts, would like to hear how it was decided not to include this aspect of Ashby's recs.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Because I decided due to availability and time constraints 11 factors perfectly flying.
@walkswithwildobaggins8204
@walkswithwildobaggins8204 3 жыл бұрын
yes sir 315 grain Ashby or tuff head for me!! Deer cant handle it .
@greekmaster1001
@greekmaster1001 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I donated to the Ashby foundation last night
@SuperToehead
@SuperToehead 3 жыл бұрын
Couple of questions. 1. Does the length of the insert inside thr shaft improve structural integrity versus a shorter internal insert? I use a glue in/glue on insert but it’s not very long inside the shaft. (Ac glue in/glue on adapters. I always cut my sleeves 2” which is about 1/2 or so beyond the back of the insert in the shaft. My worry with the short adapters was a hard angled hit and I blowing put sideways. However as you stated every time I break an arrow it’s right behind that sleeve. (Has not happened in an animal yet). 2. Have you seen any breakage due to levering of he inert breaking out of the shaft on hard angle hits? I love the ace because they are really cheap, but I wonder about those angled impacts and if my longer sleeve is doing me more harm than good in that situation. Love the channel and all of my arrows are designed for Cape buffalo even though I “only” hunt NA game
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
We don’t know for sure Ashby foundation will find out
@cronkthecrunk
@cronkthecrunk 2 жыл бұрын
Troy I need a shirt that says "I'm planning for plan B"
@jasonspink
@jasonspink 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content as always!
@davidayres9865
@davidayres9865 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious...how close to the Cape Buffalo, do you have to get, to get a pass-through?? Cuz that is a BIG animal......
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Most are taken between 20 and 35 Correct arrow system solves
@davidayres9865
@davidayres9865 2 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy that is scary close to one of the most deadly animals in Africa
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidayres9865 some people live differently.
@davidayres9865
@davidayres9865 2 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy hopefully as a hunter I will get there one day
@jasongobbell3578
@jasongobbell3578 3 жыл бұрын
I shoot 830 grain wood arrows with single bevel heads for Deer
@stephenballard3759
@stephenballard3759 2 жыл бұрын
Whatcha got that is that heavy? Hickory? Locust? For a while I could get raw maple shafts that were 440-460, but they were a FAT 23/64. I'm shooting through elk with a 740 gr, TAW, single beveled 2 blades, 21 % FOC on bamboo shafts, and I love them!
@african7498
@african7498 3 жыл бұрын
My understanding is the min legal requirement in SA is 80lbs draw, 80 ft/lbs kinetic energy and 750 grain arrows for buffalo?
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
No idea. But lots of people do it with a stick bow and lower poundage bows - it’s truly the arrow
@african7498
@african7498 3 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy I am not disputing that - just saying you do not want to land up in a jail in Africa due to equipment that does not meet legal requirements - referring to bow poundage rather than the great arrow you putting together. For buffalo, I prefer my 375 H&H or bigger.
@ivanbrown7905
@ivanbrown7905 3 жыл бұрын
Show the process of tuning the arrow
@lawrencefranck9417
@lawrencefranck9417 Жыл бұрын
Looks like you could fill the insert tip with lead.
@John-z8g9z
@John-z8g9z Жыл бұрын
Ranch Fairy 🧚‍♂️! Troy ! There is an archery 🏹 company that is rather interesting called Valkyrie Archery that seems to have some interesting ideas/ developments as to inserts/ collars arrows broad heads and the like. Have you heard of Valkyrie Archery? What is your experience/ opinion of them?
@ryans9029
@ryans9029 2 жыл бұрын
Shortening the sleeve only hurt your cause. The point of the sleeve is two fold. 1. Is to strengthen the shaft end from exploding and allowing the BH from splitting the shaft. 2. Is to move the shear point further back down the shaft.... Past the insert edge.. (the part you tried about being be angled) That angled part wouldn't matter if the sleeve was left longer than the insert.. they are designed to be longer for this reason. AND the further back that sleeve goes, the more effective it will be. Shortening it retains the anti splitting up effect(mostly) But loses the anti-shearing behind the insert effect.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
So - IN testing. When we have sleeves without an internal post or a very short internal post and longer sleeve as you describe. “Shear point back further” the SHAFT shears at the end of the sleeve. Same effect as 5 degree taper on wooden arrows. The only reason I added the sleeves was to keep the point from possibly pushing backward into the shaft on a hard impact. The Direct glue on insert system was already better than any screw in system.
@ryans9029
@ryans9029 2 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy yes. I would expect the shearing to happen directly behind the sleeve. 👍 But, the force required to shear will be increased significantly. The arrow will always fail. But increasing the durability, and moving that shearing point rearward is generally considered a positive. Thanks for replying bro 👍
@ryans9029
@ryans9029 2 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy definitely better\more durable than screw in inserts. 👍
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryans9029 forgot to add, the internal post on the direct bond system in that arrow is about 1.25" long. We've had very few shafts want to shear at the end of the internal post, but when the sleeve is longer than the internal post, its like a pinch point.
@robertsophiea05
@robertsophiea05 3 жыл бұрын
This is the exact same arrow he would build for a whitetail. This video should be called. "The arrow I shoot all the time."
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
There aren’t deer arrows!! Ha! However for the big stuff - you can’t just 6.5 creed more and pray. There’s a reason they make 416’s
@wicky383
@wicky383 11 ай бұрын
What color is your thumb release 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Clasic!!!!
@jbertski
@jbertski 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Troy big fan starting a build soon had a few questions I just picked up a Mathews atlas 30” draw 70lbs I was thinking about going with a 250 black eagle rampage do you think this is a good arrow to start with I’m looking to run 140 grain spinning half out insert and a 200 broad head my other question is about the spinning inserts yay or nay on that read what ethics has to say about them seems legit but I see you always using static inserts have you experimented with these?
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYakdXacZrt-fNk Your arrow is fine Insert (how does a spinning insert solve any flight issues?) Point is fine. But I’d follow the directions on that video
@jbertski
@jbertski 3 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy thanks for the input let you know how it comes out keep doing your thing brotha I enjoy your content throughly
@milleroctober1996
@milleroctober1996 3 жыл бұрын
Check out valkyrie arrow systems
@antonditt1661
@antonditt1661 3 жыл бұрын
The tapper is a step in the right direction but rhere is still an edge. The perfect way to do it would be a rounded transition as it is found on a spitzer bullet. Talking about watch making.
@smau990
@smau990 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Considering the carbon, chamfer is the same as square edge, when the arrow wall meets the chamfer it’s already broken. Easton has taken this into account in their new titanium half-out that has rounded ball head. Even better Valkyrie uses longer shank and rubber o-ring with the rounded end to distribute the force even further. Considering they also make a glue in adaptor for centerpin system, that’s what I’d choose here.
@stevenygaard3170
@stevenygaard3170 3 жыл бұрын
Better to have smart friends ?....THAT'S why I subscribe to the Ranch Fairy ( hopefully we're friends....) 😏
@reidzr2s10
@reidzr2s10 3 жыл бұрын
Man those Cape Buffalo look to be 48 inches wide on TV. If I was a betting man you could have taken my money.
@Fivegunner
@Fivegunner 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering what do you think about filling arrow up with sand.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Never done it
@Fivegunner
@Fivegunner 3 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy one video of cape buffalo archery hunt, that hunter had his arrows filled with sand.
@Fivegunner
@Fivegunner 3 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy I'm trying to find that video. I find that idea interesting. I guess it helps that I'm an mechanical engineer. I'm a beginner with a huge B, and learning a lot from you guys.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fivegunner Never gonna do it. Load the front, and perfect arrow flight. the latter will be your problem. At impact the sand will likely blow the nock out. Just like the weighted tubes.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fivegunner Stupid. If it goes sideways and weighs 10,000 grains. Its sideways
@richienell
@richienell 3 жыл бұрын
Great info Troy, However, I disagree with your idea of a shorter footing being better to decrease lateral break issue. The longer the rear lever (basically entire arrow behind footing) the greater chance for a lateral break. Look at an extreme situation where the footing is like 12" long. That makes the rear lever much shorter. Think about how difficult it would be to get a lateral force great enough to snap the shaft. Although I personally made the 2" footings your holding just as a common place to start with footing size (creates great strength with minimum, if any, stiffening affect), I personally shoot an 8" footing with smaller double footing to bridge the only possible weak point, (end of shaft and behind broadhead). Any potential break point is way up the shaft with short rear lever. This creates a crazy bone and bomb proof shaft at 910 grains, 33.?? % FOC, 300 TuffHead propelled from 70@31.5 Black Widow. i use that arrow for everything I hunt and it blows up everything I hit, stem to stern in quick fashion and in one piece for next victim.
@montuckyman4982
@montuckyman4982 3 жыл бұрын
What shaft are you using?
@richienell
@richienell 3 жыл бұрын
@@montuckyman4982 GT Ultralight 300 Entrada. I cut 1/4" off each end to get me to 31.5" of carbon and it supposedly creates a shaft closer to .001 in straightness. Then nock and business end components gets me plenty of room for draw.
@britt3219
@britt3219 3 жыл бұрын
Hey RF, have you heard how her hunt went?
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if Covid changed it
@cob9844
@cob9844 3 жыл бұрын
But does it fly
@Lucas-jy7cv
@Lucas-jy7cv 3 жыл бұрын
We all just see this guy trying to help us
@Redpitbull44
@Redpitbull44 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed.
@jeffjackson5331
@jeffjackson5331 3 жыл бұрын
Good info
@davidfleer5307
@davidfleer5307 3 жыл бұрын
Troy glasses or a pain in the ass when bow hunting I have trifocals ouch oh well I just deal with it when we get over 40. I hope we here how she does with that setup on pigs and the Buffalo 👍✌🏻🇺🇸
@peterwhitejr.9374
@peterwhitejr.9374 3 жыл бұрын
I see you have arrows on your bench that have Zinger fletches on them why dont you do a video about them I use them and love them.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Working on that -
@paulheberling2750
@paulheberling2750 9 ай бұрын
RF is just too good
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 9 ай бұрын
Just want people to be successful
@thomasjohnson7282
@thomasjohnson7282 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone setup like this for 🦌
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
tons of fairy dusters.
@Will7981
@Will7981 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of Ed Ashby before. Lol
@shanestout3543
@shanestout3543 3 жыл бұрын
Someone should make a tungsten incert around 3 inches long with a ball on the end... Just guessing should weigh close to 300gr.. Then no problem with foc and they can make a collar about 2 1/2 inches.. Will make a very heavy arrow.. The you could also use mechanical broadheads also..
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Mechs still have a HUGE energy issue at impact - we are gonna study this - but the mass may not overwhelm the WIDE impact energy dump? Will it help - probably. We don’t know yet My GUESS - Blades and ferrules get destroyed by the significant increase in momentum. BUT BUT LISTEN It’s a GUESS. We shall see
@shanestout3543
@shanestout3543 3 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy i dont trust any that expand on initial impact.. However i feel more secure about those that expand after impact... I like the design of Schwacker 125gr... 2 1/2 cut diameter...
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanestout3543 Well, I’ve had trouble back in the day with that particular head When it hit shoulder meat on big hogs (Because you have to shoot them there - vitals are funnY) Anyway I shot one about 220 (I have a scale). The shoulder meat was 5” THICK before it hit the ribcage Well, it deployed about 2” in - like it’s supposed to / by design, before the ribcage But the meat was 5” - BONK - stopped like it hit a wall. I know that’s never happened to anyone else On earth - but 2 weeks later I shot him with a hand sharpened adult broadhead - he had a terrible day. 60 yards and down in A cloud of dust
@shanestout3543
@shanestout3543 3 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy i thought the anatomy of a hog is different than a whitetail.. In that thought i would use a fixed blade..
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanestout3543 Fact
@derrickray5464
@derrickray5464 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to RF I already have my 625 gr 31.5" setupfor hogs. After watching this I'm wondering what arrow setup would it take to punch through a car door? Just curious.
@stevew3718
@stevew3718 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like a mean arrow
@MakingNMemoriesoutdoors
@MakingNMemoriesoutdoors 10 ай бұрын
Have you tried this setup on a whitetail deer or hog lol
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 10 ай бұрын
Yup. Deer are invisible to the arrow. Any angle. Pigs too. The heaviest arrow I've hunted with is 1,035 grains. Just to see what happens. So I did it TWICE. What happens is the arrow blows through them like they are invisible. One pig was 225 pound boar, so pretty solid target
@HouseBladeDesign
@HouseBladeDesign 2 жыл бұрын
counter sinch that footed an put it into the collar
@sethwinkel5721
@sethwinkel5721 3 жыл бұрын
Magnum arrow for the win.…
@stevehuffman7453
@stevehuffman7453 Жыл бұрын
Cape Buffalo. AKA: "Black Death". I read the Cape Buffalo kills more more people a year than all other dangerous African big game - combined. Hunters and non-hunters just minding their own business are equally apt to be attacked and killed,the Cape Buffalo wounded or not. Personally, I don't believe a 90 or 120mm recoilless rifle ("bazooka") non-exploding armor piercing round through the boiler room would be "over kill". The .458 Winchester Magnum, .500 Weatherby Magnum, .600 Nitro Express, and other dangerous big game rounds, old (pre-war) and new, have failed to drop Mr. Sir Black Death with one shot when put through his boiler room. A 2 or 3 bore "stopper" rifle (designed and used to stop and drop a charging bull elephant at close range using a rather fast 1,000 grain plus bullet) MIGHT stop an angry ... or just frustrated in a bad mood (is he ever in a "good" mood???) having a "bad day" Mr. Sir Black Death, before he converts you to toe jam and red mud. I believe I would rather face a hungry adult Brown Bear or Polar bear armed with a .22 short rifle (I might get lucky and put around into the eye and brain) than Mr. Sir Black Death with any firearm. Either way, I would probably be dead. The bear would likely turn my "life" switch off quicker, however, with less suffering on my part ... edit ...by the way ... "4 eyes"? It could be worse. I currently have SIX eyes (bifocals). I "think" I MAY need trifocals, for 8 eyes. 🙀 😺
@grayman7208
@grayman7208 2 жыл бұрын
you are trying to make the arrows heavy ... why not use a wooden shaft ?
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Um……ranch fairy channel Dr Ed Ashby’s 12 factors The natal study The ashby Bowhunting foundation…. I kinda hope you’re kidding
@grayman7208
@grayman7208 2 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy just learning. started reading the info you mentioned. don't know nothin' yet ... that's why i asked. but ...i do know howard hill and others have taken the big five with wood arrows. that's also why i asked. and reading ashby's "ultimate hunting arrows" pdf ... i quote "Certain woods; either as primary shafting or as a footing; provide excellent integrity, increasing the penetration potential. Among these are: Forgewood; hickory; laminated birch; and several exotic hardwoods, such as ipe and purple heart." and his pdf photos show wooden shafts that have worked. so ... again ... if trying to add weight ... why not a heavy wood shaft ?
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
@@grayman7208 Excellent - then it was an honest question. So yep. They did it. But the lower mass arrow (carbon) with a heavy point is outperforming “heavy arrows” Here to help and if you have detailed questions Email Troy@ranchfairy.com
@grayman7208
@grayman7208 2 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy thanks. by the way ... i do not ask dishonest questions ... that would be dishonest. so the next question is ... aren't some wood arrows more durable and tougher than carbon arrows ?
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
@@grayman7208 Excellent Not any more. Carbon is just too easy. They either break or they are straight. They stay straight and don’t weaken over time from ponding into targets. Weather proof Etc
@ScottWConvid19
@ScottWConvid19 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like she will be at up. 60lbs, every single minute factor has to be greatly considered. Cape buffalo are up there with Grizzlies and Kodiaks The moment of truth. I hope she doesn't get the jab so she can go. That's folly.
@flyfin108
@flyfin108 3 жыл бұрын
uh oh, thank you
@ranchosendero
@ranchosendero 3 жыл бұрын
👌👍👍👍
@rockyparkerton1372
@rockyparkerton1372 3 жыл бұрын
Should’ve talked to a machinist instead of the engineer. A full bullnose on the insert would be better than a chamfer. The sleeve should be just short of the beginning of the bullnose.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Next build - I’ll change it
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