How to Build THE PERFECT Control Scheme in Smash Ultimate

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[@BaldGrav]

MK LEO *shows ZeRo on screen*

[@handrees]

XDDDF

[@bovro7636]

I was thinking exactly that

[@kyurei4478]

I think they mention MK Leo instead of ZeRo now because it's better to sell the coaching. They probably figured it out that ZeRo wasn't as strong in Ultimate.

[@twiphe4375]

"NES Controller" _shows SNES Controller_

[@MizuY2K]

so. no one knows you can put one of the bumpers to jump for easy short hops? if you put for example L to jump too you can press L and Y at the same time and it will always short hop

[@abdelpizarro]

legends says elite smash Belmont players have all buttons map to special for max optimization.

[@Hunterrion]

Its split half and half between special and smash attacks

[@giveittomebaybe5112]

All shield for impenetrable strength

[@MrAdamTeacher]

ZING!!

[@thesherm1ator160]

Only for ness and Zelda tho

[@ty21st]

I went to a tourney and I'm pretty sure a snake or Simon player actually did this

[@Segel1230]

Video starts at 4:45, you're welcome

[@babytron5877]

Lmao ur actually right, until 4:45 Is just filler

[@jaediety]

I've noticed this channel is awful about patting their videos with filler to get it past the ten minute mark

[@cymint4796]

Thx

[@lqtch]

jaed they also try to advertise their website

[@tjg6363]

Thx bro

[@JB_CY]

Slime controller no doubt

[@blaze7161]

Hero mains be like

[@JB_CY]

@@blaze7161 yeah, no doubt

[@toxronin3971]

Sf30 pro entered the chat

[@filipe5534]

You sound like an un-doubtful person.

[@kwayke9]

Single drifting joycon really good too

[@jvbon646]

Correction: The Optimal way of Playing Smash is with the Wii Balance Board, with the DK Bongos being a close 2nd, and the Dragon Quest Slime at 3rd Place.

[@unkn0wnmortaL]

Jero Valentin ill stick to single joycon thanks

[@thunderbolt_blitz]

I'll stick to GamePad

[@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe]

I use wii fit and dk bongos! It's optional

[@thelastravenpuff9396]

I'll stick to my DDR pad thank you very much

[@themask6603]

Amateur! I'm still going the classic way with the Power-Glove!

[@r.l.steinfeld1448]

I do Z jump and XY grab. Took FOREVER to retrain my brain but was honestly the most tangible improvement I've ever felt in Smash. Being able to execute any direction aerial with the C stick without darting your thumb to X to jump is a godsend. Your air mobility feels improved tenfold.

[@IamtheWV17]

I do a morph of this on a GCpro controller. ZR & Y jump with X for grab. That leaves the A+Y short hop aireal option open and easy.

[@CianThoYT]

Which z do you mean?

[@ThomasWilson4]

​@@IamtheWV17 yo i basically do the same thing, and your absolutely right about the ease and having both jump options

[@yourbroskijack]

@@CianThoYTI think zr

[@saduku8558]

NES Controllers Shows SNES controller.

[@Xaos_]

0:36 “We got courses from pros like MKLeo!” *shows zero*

[@NinjaFarts77]

I paused right when he said it to see if anybody commented this.

[@Elegies22]

DAMMIT U BEAT ME TO IT

[@BaldGrav]

Holy shit nice comment

[@amfram]

Yeah I don’t think I’ll ever trust that, these videos help me learn tho

[@mobilebotpolo9009]

Chubby zero lol, he changed so much

[@finnmcisaac2245]

Pro tip: if you hit jump and A at the same time while holding a direction, you can quickly and easily execute a short-hop aerial. This also works for doing a quick short-hop special. For setting up things like ness PSI-magnet combos

[@toastyghosty489]

I do this all the time, as it makes short jumping more consistent for me. You can also hit x&y to do perform a short jump and the late hit after

[@reggiefils-aime9798]

Ahem, You appear to have left out the solo wiimote, the single best way to play smash competitive

[@maryarroyo8452]

Get out facker

[@aleisshiki3649]

Reggie Fils-aime I think you can’t even use that in ultimate

[@Swagner17]

Reggie Fils-aime I’ve actually seen someone use wii mote in a Top 8 brawl major tournament 😭😭

[@bandawin18]

That's how I've done it for years since brawl was all I had for a few years. Good thing I'll be getting a switch in 2-6 weeks after about a year of not being able to play Smash

[@Biagio1313]

@@bandawin18 get ready for hell muffin. using the f k n left stick to move is TORTURE and... windy inaccurate

[@codexsp]

"Disconnect your pro controler!"- every TO ever and for ever.

[@thunderbolt_blitz]

Why not far yet

[@garenthal9638]

I have the power A GameCube wireless is that bad?

[@Calebanton]

T.A - Dust “Lemme just chuck my controller in the bottom backpack”

[@lucio-ohs8828]

@@garenthal9638 ik this was 11 months ago but get yourself a real gc controller if you want to play somewhat competitively, or even just want to get good in general

[@user-fl4ip7hq8y]

@@lucio-ohs8828 Bad advice. Use whatever YOU feel comfortable with. That's better advice. People in sfv used to say use only arcade sticks and now the best players in the world are pad players why? Because it is what they grew up with and what they were comfortable with.

[@Pslamist]

10:58 I've noticed Zackray's controls before, but the last 6 months, he's switched to GameCube, because pro controller wireless problems... Just FYI.

[@trina2688]

do you know the problem?

[@Pslamist]

@@trina2688 Connectivity *during* matches. Too many wireless controllers at one venue caused latency, reportedly. He felt like he lost some things because of it, or at least that's what I was told, so he made the switch.

[@justinb.452]

saw this when he played at evo japan

[@jred7333]

Just use the wired controller

[@conniestarks8134]

Guys guys, don't expect to grow so fast. Everything takes time

[@matthewmea3566]

8:32 Was a synchronized timing.

[@truevizard]

I def needed to see this. I’ve been playing default settings since smash 1. I can’t beat these competitive ppl online and now this is video def gives hope. Back to training I go. Thank you

[@tyrel5150]

It may be helpful to have a controller scheme specifically set up for Elite or competitive play. Set your D pad to shield to mash out of control grabs and the such much easier. Save the taunts for friendly play. Excellent vid!

[@BassBoostingBrony]

ahmm i havent seen a tournament where joycons are legal...

[@KnishG]

every local i’ve been to allows them. but they really shouldn’t. when people forget to disconnect them the to has to yell out for 10 minutes trying to find the fucker. usually they have dummy switches out to let people connect to them to disconnect their joycons but it’s still such a hassle. wish there was a setting to disconnect every controller after each game.

[@MyNameZef]

knish he literally talks about that in the video, go to system settings, go to controllers, scroll down and press disconnect controllers

[@KnishG]

@@MyNameZef oop

[@largenaq2935]

knish lmao if you had an entire local tournament that didn’t know that then something is wrong there 😂

[@Pslamist]

It's fine and all that there's the option to disconnect controllers, but the second one of the loose controllers are touched, they get synced again, and typically this happens on the character select screen, so it holds up other matches.

[@maelreynaud2137]

What I find optimal need a wireless Gamecube Controller for : - Stick with more precision - Left bumper and X to jump, C stick to tilt to do easy shorthop and RAR and buffered short hop attacks - Left and right trigger to shield - Grab on Y - A and B unchanged - Right bumper to special to wavebounce and out of shield pre selected option (if you do a special move and move C stick+jump while on shield, the outcome is different whether you got it on shield or not)

[@maelreynaud2137]

I forgot to mention that the two triggers for shield are cool to tilt shield easily

[@yo-pd7jz]

Maël Reynaud you can till shield if u hold special and shield.

[@Mote.]

"The sweet sweet asmr the gamecube controller brings to the table" That part right there made me give the video a like

[@Kiryienka97]

Seeing Zackray's unusual control scheme was so surreal to me cause I was like, 'woah, and here I thought all pros did was turn off tap jump'. Been playing with B jump, Y attack, X special, A grab since mid last year and there's always a little side-eye from your opponent when you set your controls like that.

[@marioluigijam3612]

Lol I do the same cept with x and y swaped from your setup. Good to know I aint the only werido

[@colinmeier8140]

GameCube controller: “Input lag may be present” Pro controller: “It can sometimes be very inconsistent Me: “Laughs in my wireless GameCube controller hybrid which for some reason renders as a pro controller on the switch”

[@chips8497]

Colin Meier i have the same controller

[@javym1431]

Me too

[@thatgirlinamask8699]

My favourite controller, super comfy for most games, and the added bumper and select button do wonders

[@javym1431]

ThatGuyInAMask ikr

[@lunarwydd800]

pdp?

[@the_furf_of_july4652]

I really like my setup despite it being wacky. I use joycons most of the time, jump with right trigger, shield with left, left bumper is an alternate special button, right bumper is grab, the topmost button (x or y) is shield, the leftmost (y or x) is jump. Tilt stick, high sensitivity, no tap jump. I find it much easier and more instinctive to jump with the trigger rather than the buttons because it allows me to more easily attack separate from my jumps, and no extra movement is needed if I want to use the c stick while jumping. The extra special button has a few gimmicky uses but in general doesn’t get in the way, as I still have a grab button. I don’t use X or Y too much but pressing two jump buttons or two shield buttons does have a few uses.

[@user-tu1ot8ol1u]

For me everything is standard except with stick jump off, sensitivity high, tilt attack for c stick, and jump as L1 just because of how I use Pichus thunder off stage

[@hologrammaster2468]

@@user-tu1ot8ol1u yea

[@TheShalestorm]

I love having L + LZ both being jump. and Leaving R and RZ for Grab and sheild. It makes it super easy to short hop wavedash dance. And Makes ShortHop falling aerials a breeze With the new short hop mechanic in Ultimate

[@user-by9ks6nc9t]

I press LZ+ x to shorthop falling aerial Do you press L+LZ?

[@tyrel5150]

Personally setting a shoulder button to Jump really helps with forwards Bairs. Along with setting Tilt Stick. I’m able to make sick plays and combos I would otherwise be almost incapable of doing especially with characters with combo-friendly Bairs like Young Link and Link

[@bloodmarth]

0:03 What? I need a controller to play Smash? You're kidding me. No other game requires one!

[@tryoxiss]

bloodmarth i was thinking the same thing!

[@jorgem.9690]

Just get a controller is not that hard

[@jovannydiazabad6123]

My setup as a ZSS main is ZL-Jump, L-grab, ZR-Shield, R-Special, D pad-shield, Right/C Stick- Tilt attack, X and Y- Jump, A- attack, B-special. XY as jump for short hop, ZL as jump and R as special for b reverse, wavebounce and side b reverse (when coupled with Tilt Stick). Tilt to right stick for easier tilt attacks, b reverse and wavebounce, while having access to quick aerials. D pad on shield for mashing out of grab. Finally Tap jump off, High Sensitivity on, AB for smash attack as well as rumble is optional

[@tehaaronjelly5473]

So glad this video wasn’t just “tilt stick tap jump off!” Also citing university studies is pretty legit. 😂

[@BigCowProductions]

Jump on shoulder is AMAZING. I have A as my grab button, Y as attack and B as special, X as also jump. Doing a special and jump at the same time is great.

[@Pooper]

Big Cow Productions with what controller?

[@hologrammaster2468]

@@Pooper I don't know

[@gussie_boi4121]

I have a wired Luigi PDP controller, so I have access to all 4 shoulder buttons. My L button is a jump button, R, zR, and zL are the same. Tilts are set up for c stick, and stick jump is still on. For some reason, this works absolutely fantastic for me (coming from a Falcon main).

[@EchoesOfArson]

I use the GameCube really, just because of the little dips in the control sticks. Seems small but makes it so much easier to input different moves

[@Rexcalibar]

I like the Pro Controller I own for the AGL and AGR buttons, I have jump on AGR which makes aerials SO easy to combo.

[@jo4sh0w76]

In the last few weeks I have really been digging the double joy con controller attachment

[@assordante2205]

I forgot that this was an option. I'm definitely gonna try putting tilts on the cstick. Maybe I'll one day be good at this game lol.

[@ThatOneScienceGuy]

I like how he threw in the tip about disconnecting controllers. Was a big problem at a local I went to with people leaving their BT controllers connected.

[@poopheadtwenty-seven540]

Very epic video. Could've talked about claw grip, but other than that it nailed just about every point in the discussion.

[@hologrammaster2468]

yea

[@MuditVerma]

Incredibly helpful, subscribed.

[@tinytiger2463]

if you press jump and attack at the same time you do an instant short hop ariel so you don’t need to do crazy mapping

[@tiondrayhartsfield]

Don’t know if anyone else knows this but if you change one of the guards into a jump and hit that and another button for jump simultaneously it also counts as a short hop. Requires much less precision that way. Discovered this accidentally but hadn’t stopped since.lol

[@ryanquick07]

"...or on a long coming-of-age journey through the wilderness, leaving you high and dry" whole ass feeling @4:08

[@RealScrymeaRiver]

His tone is so proper I honestly can't tell if he is giving advice on controllers or trying to sell me a controller.

[@paulnoell39]

Nice video, thanks Proguides

[@mastermewtwo5503]

I normally play with an entire Switch for games, including Smash. I have Stick Jump usually off so I can use up attacks without jumping, especially when I do Up Air combos like Mario has. Though with Bayonetta's combos needing to use a double jump for Witch Twist to be used, I may make a separate scheme for her. Mostly, I'm using the default controls since it's similar to Smash Wii U, which I probably played the most when it came out.

[@guscavin3011]

Okay so maybe this is an uncommon setup but I haven't seen people talking about it and I find it really comfortable. On a pro controller, I set B to jump, Y to attack, A to special, X to grab, Tilt stick, Tap Jump off, ZL to jump to make shorthopping easier, ZR and R to shield, and L to basically anything because I haven't found a good mapping for it just yet. Compared to normal controls, this seems really bizarre and even weirder than Zackray's controls. But it also works really well for me. More people should try it out.

[@juanpablocastrejon9394]

I put jump on B, attack on Y specials on X and A, tilt jump off and everything else default (on pro/joycon/portable mode)

[@budgetcoinhunter]

Huh... my setup is kinda similar to Zackray's... Pro controller: B - Jump A - Attack Y - Special X - Jump ZR & R - Shield ZL & L - Grab C-Stick - Smash The jumps being opposite each other on X and B is from the Brawl days, when Ganondorf had short-hop DAir and instant aerial DownB as viable things, and the mental separation of rolling my thumb either direction made sure I knew what I wanted. If I single-finger Shield, I can roll, but if I double-finger it (both on the right), then it's easy to shield-shift.

[@phoboszelus]

I use a PowerA controller with 2 extra buttons on the back where your fingers rest. I map one to jump (for the same reason as the shoulder jump config) and I map the other to grab

[@hologrammaster2468]

yea

[@MikhaliX]

I'm no pro but I want to share my control scheme anyway. Jump is ZL Shield is L & B Attack is R & Y Special is ZR & X Grab is A. Tilt Stick. Puts a strain on the left arm when I wasn't used to it but it eventually belcame natural. Mapping the attacks on the shoulder buttons helps when i need to do Megaman's pellets jump cancel and keeps my thumb on the tilt stick.

[@flowerFL]

i actually like the joycons because theyre small. less travel with the joysticks and buttons are close together and less clicky. the bumpers also have little travel too

[@looie1852]

My gamecube controller settings. My top buttons - shield, A - attack, B - special, Y - jump, X - grab, C -tilt. No rumble, no stick jump, high stick sensitivity. Might use a shoulder for jump after this video though

[@asukakang821]

Really helped me thx 😊

[@ZeroEffort]

For meta knight ladder it's so much easier to do it with R shoulder as jump and using the stick to input the up airs.

[@jcplays5831]

I switch the special button (b) and the the jump button (x). I also used tilt stick

[@kreakdore]

Stick jump off because you cannot do falling up airs unless you've already used your 2nd jump. I main ZSS and short hop falling up air is a ladder combo starter. Pretty important.

[@wackyweyland8857]

Thank you for the tip about the tilt stick. I was always doing smash attacks, and the CPU was punishing me for it :|

[@gamesincharacter5106]

I actually am planning to get a wireless game cube controller once i have enough. But as of rn i have my pro controller set up to act similar to a game cube controller.

[@LLotad]

I actually have a pro controller at the moment and use joycons anyway with smash stick because I play falco and i never really misinput a tilt, uh tips for fellow joycon boys. Make stick sensitivity low. Uh dont be too rough on ur sticks unless u like joycon drift

[@W3sson]

if you want to be a luigi main and learn the zero to death make sure to turn stick jump off or you cannot land the u-air in the combo

[@thebulletbot3329]

I honestly really like using joycons, I remap R to jump and set ZR to grab and ZL to shield and now with the added button remapping in the switch home screen I can also remap L to smash if I wanted to. I jump a lot as a luigi and G&W player, so R jumping and R+X short-hopping feels very comfortable. I do have a GCC tho, and with that I am struggling to decide whether I should -have Z be grab and R be jump -have Z be jump and R be grab

[@his_purpose3]

I actually like to map grab to the x button on the gamecube controller, that way my grab is right next to my jump (the y button). I remember my friends always bashing on me for doing this, but idk man it feels faster and more comfortable than hitting z for me.

[@maxnguyen9668]

Change one of the shoulder buttons to jump And tilt stick to attack cancel bair

[@KwandreSchwul]

I dunno if I'm just weird but I put all the shoulder buttons as shield, X as grab for both game cube and pro controller and jump for just the Y

[@angrypepe7615]

My set up is this -pro controller -tilt stick -rumble off, tap jump off -senstivity high -a b smash on -zr jump -r special -y attack -a jump Everything else is the same I'm new to competitive smash so getting used to these controls wasn't that hard. I have a shoulder buttons mapped to jump because it makes short hope aerials easy and some advanced tech easier to perform without needing claw grip. Special is for easier wave bounces Attack is set to Y because it's closer to the control stick and I play zelda a lot so it's more intuitive for me.

[@Lil_mar00]

dude yessss zackray, thank you!!! just put grab as my side d-pad button. now i can perform z drops flawlessly!!! :)

[@fishHater]

I am new to Nintendo used to only xbox but I loooove the game cube controller.

[@ThatOneScienceGuy]

I played Melee for many years since it came out. I had no issue switching to pro controller and in fact quickly fell in love with it and like it much better than the GC controller.

[@ThatOneScienceGuy]

@@aarondilts6925 Yeah. Feels so weird in the hands now. It's like, how did I ever play with this?

[@toocoldtobother7271]

The one thing that aggravates me about the pro controller is the lack of octogan gate about the sticks. My friends gamecube controller helped me with some of the issues it does sometimes, although its weird as hell to hold

[@adamdonkykong3795]

Thank you I can now chain 3-4 times with no problem

[@joshd108]

On GameCube or standard controllers I just change C stick to tilt. Done

[@Kat-ru4ej]

As someone who played with default controllers ever since I first picked up a contoller playing smash turning off tap jump, changing my stick to tilt attacks and having muscle memory from using tilts gently it feels so abnormal changing anything lol

[@Sponsie1000]

l wish there was an option to set a button to "switch", and holding that button would allow the c-stick to be something different. For example, it would be really cool if you could set your c-stick to tilt and set that same c-stick to smash if you're holding the button that's mapped to "switch"

[@hologrammaster2468]

yea

[@eazyrat]

pro user here. first thing i did when first playing was remap b and a to jump, y to attack x to special. feels like playing a platformer. you automatically short hop when you press jump with either attack or special.

[@YangyChaddyDad]

I have a problem mashing with the control stick but I haven't found success with the shield dpad, any tips?

[@jmc2830]

personally, my 8bitdo snes controller is the best i've used. it has dual toggles like most modern controllers, i just prefer the shape since i grew up on snes. if you want something like the snes controller, i'd recommend that.

[@HippityhoppityGnW]

Honestly though, the only big differences between a grounded and aerial up b are with bowser and DK. And if you're trying to up out of shield with DK, then read up. DA is always the better option.

[@Nostra_]

I love the procontroller but when playing shotos the stick feels way to heavy and is easier to missinput so i switched to Gamecube C and its way more accurate, and for the rumble the only character which i feel is actually useful is with lucario because the sphere varies on damage so is quite hard to tell how much it will charge based on visual cues

[@jonasoldorp8586]

zaackray also has his x and y button to jump to press both at the same time with the thumb for super consistent short hops. At least that's what I'm thinking.

[@martindreikorn9515]

I have used zackray's set up for a while now and it has help doing float Cancels with peach

[@WednesdayMan]

you know what I would want? a toggle button to change what the C-stick does, Like pressing it switches been tilt and smash mode, this way you can have both Tilt and smash on the C-stick.

[@hologrammaster2468]

yea

[@64b4bx]

What's everybody's control setup? I go GCN with Tap Jump off, Rumble off, A+B Smash off, and Stick Sensitivity on normal. L is special, Z is jump, and X is Grab. Everything else is normal. Having the grab button be one of the face buttons instead of two jump buttons makes it so much easier for me and I play with Claw Grip so short hop aerials aren't affected too bad

[@sludgebones]

I have normal controls except I have tilt stick, stick jump off, and L and ZL both as jump, so if i press both at the same time I can short hop. Also I use the wireless Power A gamecube controller.

[@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe]

I definitely recommend no tap jump, tilts and setting a shoulder button to jump. It's called double sticking! It's incredibly fun, useful and comfortable

[@hologrammaster2468]

yea

[@aIkaIi]

All I do is turn tap jump off and play using a claw grip. I use c stick for smash attacks and aerials. Everything is so easy to get to.

[@RofICopters]

Cursed but optimal layout: Tilt Stick ZR: jump - flick ring and middle finger for easy IDJ R: Attack LR: Shield L: Special Y & B: grab with this set-up you only ever move your thumb off the c-stick to grab and have access to every universal tech (not sure about every characters' specific nutty stuff) less hand motion means less fatigue/strain and makes it the fastest

[@suprqt]

I set zl and zr to jump because if you press two separate jump buttons at the same time it's a shortcut for shorthop.

[@hologrammaster2468]

yea

[@Gurl_pNg]

I turn tap jump off and it makes it super easy to do up tilts

[@thelastravenpuff9396]

Got the notification 5 days after upload, nice job KZbin

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

I would choose the Switch Pro Controller because it works on all Switch models including the Switch Lite. The GameCube controller will only work on the GameCube, the original Switch and the upcoming OLED Switch.

[@Geo_K012]

How exactly is mashing shield a good way to not buffer an air Dodge? I switched the directional pad from shield to jump because it's better to mash out and jump than to mash out and air Dodge

[@hackkman24]

You could also just hit the sync button on a pro controller to quickly disconnect.

[@toyjesus]

The Wii Classic Pro controller is the best controller for smash. It has the stick notches and a normal button layout.

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

I set my attack button to y a long time ago because most of the games I played at the time used x on Xbox to attack or y to attack on switch. I haven’t played a single game with that attack since but I’ve kept my control like that since lmao (I have a set to grab)

[@dreamhunter5011]

so map right stick to tilt (even though they aren't that hard to land) and map taunt to shield? I can see why you would want to get rid of taunts as most are useless but if you just swap b and x and set y to shield 1. inkling becomes way easier, and 2. you can perform short hop ariels with ease ( on joycon )

[@Nathouuuutheone]

Shield on a shoulder button makes Peach and Daisy's float much easier to hold

[@maxbernard5797]

I use gc coontroler, tap jump on, high sensitivity, tilt stick, ab smash off and everything else default. It is not hard to do smash attack with the a button. I feel like tilt stick is easier with high sensitivity then smash stick because smash inputs aren't as precise

[@paulschroeder6824]

I have same binds as Zachary except my jump is r and sheild is zr as well as attack is a and x bc if you’re press attack and jump at the same(y and x) it does a short hop Ariel

[@paulschroeder6824]

This is more comfortable for me

[@carrotofwisdom]

My layout is X = Special, Y = Attack, A-B = Jump. Tap Jump = Off and C Stick = Tilt Stick.

[@hologrammaster2468]

yea

[@artstrange3230]

"It's a lot easier to flick a joystick than a button" Why, yes. Maybe because the stick can move, perhaps?

[@bradl.602]

No mention of the forward facing back-air tech option with the tilt stick?

[@DukeApples]

I use a Pro controller, i remapped the face buttons a bit...moved attack from A to B ...moves specials from B to Y...and made A my second jump...its just far more mentally comfortable for me.

[@hologrammaster2468]

yea

[@hobbyman2381]

Had to sub, you are 2 good at communication.

[@tyrel5150]

I wonder how a PowerA Gamecube controller holds up next to the scheme for the OG GC controller. I’ve seen and heard that the input lag is a bit different along with the massive input difference on the main shoulder buttons. Some research and testing required.

[@hologrammaster2468]

yea