How to bulletproof your Pentastar engine with Dorman OE FIX solutions

[@JesusIsAwsome21]

great video, I agree with almost every one in the comments, an aluminum option for every plastic part on this engine would be great. maybe all the new aluminum pieces can come in a kit.

[@CedroCron]

Thank you... We have 15 PentaStars in the family!

[@piezoman79]

I thought for a minute this must have been filmed at the Dorman Correctional Facility 😅

[@roadking99jokerst60]

The young lady is a fine spokesperson for Dorman.

[@jimdailey1985]

Dorman is a work of art.

[@AutisticBioweapon]

God bless you guys for fixing Chryslers mistakes. I love Dorman.

[@NXangel3.6]

Aluminum valve covers please !!

[@DormanProducts]

Hello, thank you for your new product idea! I will let our product team know!

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

​@@DormanProductsSo whats next can we have a aluminum upper intake manifold

[@christianbuhlmann7820]

I have installed the oil cooler, the crossover and the thermostat housing. A huge improvement. . No more leaks. The worst thing abou the plastic oil cooler is what happened to me is that a technician at an oil change place cracked it when overtorqueing the filter cap. Human error and the first replacement cooler was also plastic. After it started leaking, 50k miles later I went to the Dorman option. My Chrysler 200S AWD is worked very hard and has autocrossed and done track days. I know I stressed these components, but since the Dorman changeovers. No issues. Thank goodness🥰

[@seatime674]

What vehicle did you put all that on?

[@melvinplatero569]

Will you guys be making aluminum valve covers for the 3.6?

[@DormanProducts]

Hi Melvin, I will let the product team know of your new product idea! Thank you!

[@beerdragon4583]

I second this idea.

[@jakealcazar3805]

Yes please!@@DormanProducts

[@drunken-skunk]

@@DormanProducts Dorman is AMAZING!! I've been buying your products for a long time!! Amazing!! Brilliant ideas yall have!!

[@jwhmerica504]

What’s the deal with the valve covers?

[@jamesrudd499]

Can i get all those for my 2011 dodge caravan crew? How much?? And how can i order it

[@denysolleik9896]

The engine cooler housing is not what’s failing, it’s the seals. There shouldn’t be seals but gasket instead. The plastic one works just fine and dealers know this. That’s why when you go in for warranty repair the dealer only replaces the seals. The seals fail due to rapid change in temperature during warmup in cold climates. Did you guys stress test in cold climates before you’ve come up with this solution? Call any shop in northern parts of North Dakota and ask them how many of these they replace in the winter.

[@splat7147]

I agree with this. 125,000 miles on my 2015 and the plastic housing was fine. The rubber seals had flattened out completely and lost elasticity which caused the leak. All that was needed was a new seal kit, which can be bought separately from Mopar for less than $20.

[@witdaMacksauce]

Naw bro.. the aluminum on is wayyyy better and if you've got a lil bit of porting skills, port and smooth out all the burrs in it and the car runs happier. Though it is the steals too the plastic plugs crack. No part should be plastic with hot oil and coolant running through it

[@ryan.crosby]

The tubes on my OEM oil cooler housing cracked on the ends. They definitely also fail.

[@queensapphire7717]

Yep, they should use a double metal gasket, that is “lipped” at the ports, much like what is used on an intake manifold, but you are 100% correct with your statement. I wish an engineer would design a gasket to use, instead of those cheap rubber seals.

[@queensapphire7717]

@@witdaMacksauceyeah, but I heard the aluminum housing retains more heat that puts more strain on the seals, which is why many of the Dorman’s are having leaking issues.

[@coreybunss]

I don’t know about that oil cooler design with that thing being made of aluminum. I feel like you can transfer a lot of heat from the edge block up to the cooler itself for everything else. I’m good with.

[@billywiggins5181]

i put this oil cooler in a year ago first one was the plastic one why is it leaking again the aluminum one

[@wvjeepguy8178]

Did you use loctite on the bolts when assembling?

[@sakomeow]

Would love an aluminum valve cover for Ford 2.3 Ecoboost

[@user-zm1ll2tl3q]

Now it's sold out until 926-959. What if I need the 926 series?

[@jbhk7977]

Can I order these parts in the EU ?

[@kylelambert1672]

How about aluminum lower intake manifold

[@censoredeveryday3320]

Please create the same solution for the Kia/Hyundai 2.4l GKJE engines. So many Kia 2.4L engines throw a rod before they even make it to 75k miles.

[@DormanProducts]

I will pass your comments along to our product team! Thank you so much!

[@ec-norsemanzero-drake7031]

So FYI note, 2015 Jeep Wranglers with the 3.6 Pentestar engine and the thermostat housing mentioned here does not work on my specific engine despite the impression on the video. So I called Dorman and the guy on the tech line stated nope it will not work. So now I am stuck with the plastic part still. Which sucks!

[@DormanProducts]

Hello! That housing works on some models with the 3.6 Pentastar but unfortunately for your year, make and model wrangler we do not list an aluminum one yet. I will let our product team know of your new product idea. Thank you!

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

On that note, those with the gen1 pentastar engine, is there an oil cooler housing for it now or are we still stuck with either the same shit plastic or a hodge podge

[@Homeboy8181]

When will the 902-3036XD aluminum thermostat housing be available?

[@DormanProducts]

Hi Joel, good question! Early June!

[@samueljackson2478]

Do you guys make these parts for the Chevy 3.6 V6.

[@samueljackson2478]

Question for the Dodge Durango GT 3.6 how do these parts hold since that engine is HO put.

[@justinlee2642]

Engine is the same , GT just has high flow dual exhaust

[@politicallyunreliable4985]

Rocker Arms?

[@SWPvegas]

on your website I didnt see ANY of these parts available for 2023 Jeep Gladiator with 3.6l gas engine

[@cantbuyrespect]

your engine should be in its warranty period correct? Why do this and void the warranty.

[@SWPvegas]

@@cantbuyrespect - yes it is, I was just asking. At some point I will be out of warranty.

[@MrLazyAmerica]

@@cantbuyrespectbulletproofing is a preventative measure. I’m buying this stuff for my new Chrysler 300 so that way stuff doesn’t break down the road.

[@cantbuyrespect]

@@MrLazyAmerica that is all well an good until something happens and they deny your warranty because you modified it during the warranty period.

[@MrLazyAmerica]

@@cantbuyrespect Replacement parts are not modifications. They cannot deny you warranty work unless they can prove the “modification” is what caused the problem.

[@onememories8523]

Do you have crossover pipe and water outlet (thermostat pipe) for 2012-17 Wrangler that is all aluminum?

[@DormanProducts]

Please check this out! www.dormanproducts.com/gsearch.aspx?type=keyword&origin=keyword&q=Water%2520Outlet&year=2015&make=Jeep&model=Wrangler

[@texasaggie8449]

2013 JKUR 267,000 miles. I change the oil every 5k miles. Use mobil 1 5w-20 with a mobil 1 or k&n or wix filter.

[@waterlec8718]

Is there ANY PLACE you guys know about in southern California that specializes in these fixes ? I don't want a newbie...

[@piezoman79]

This is honestly a fairly easy task as long as you have everything planned in advance and all the materials needed. Remember you will need to drain at least enough coolant that it’s not still flooding the intake cooling passages, and of course drain the oil prior to removing anything beyond the engine cover. Depending on your vehicle, it may or may not be possible to visually confirm that you do indeed have a leak coming from the engine valley, otherwise you’re kind of flying blind until you get a few pieces of the intake removed, which still requires going through all the advance steps as mentioned. But overall it’s not an overly difficult task. Be sure to protect your open ports so you’re not scraping or dropping crud where it doesn’t need to go.

[@Tijuanajeepclub]

Do you guys make the Aluminum thermostat for the Jk Wrangler?

[@DormanProducts]

Hello! What year JK do you have?

[@Tijuanajeepclub]

2012 3.6

[@lopaka350]

Aloha Dorman, I have purchased your Oil Filter Housing for my 2012 Wrangler this after the second OE one failed. I am also praying you will make a Coolant Cross Over Pipe and a Thermostat with Housing replacement to replace the plastic trash in my 2012 Jeep Wrangler, the Oil Filter Housing looks very well made. I'll be waiting

[@Elkslaya1]

Will these parts void the warranty?

[@DormanProducts]

Good question! We would recommend contacting your OE dealership to ask about their warranty terms.

[@Elkslaya1]

@@DormanProducts typical answer on after market parts. Why can’t you guys just be up front with the answer? This answer alone tells me it likely will void a warranty. And all aftermarket companies do this and the unsuspecting consumer is the one who gets fk’d every time while you guys wash your hands of it. You should at least put a disclaimer of some sort before you start pushing products……..

[@ds_1793]

Does this parts are worth buying them if my 3.6 pentastar is a gen 2 or gen 3?

[@SooSmokie]

There is only 2 gens, not 3

[@ds_1793]

@@SooSmokie gen 1 is from 2011-2014, gen 2 2015-2018, gen 3 2019-present

[@SooSmokie]

@@ds_1793 per chrysler, there is only 2 generations. I have a 2018 JK not JL, running gen 1 equipment. JL and forward got gen 2. I thought there was 3 also, but only 2.

[@ds_1793]

@@SooSmokie thanks for the info

[@SooSmokie]

@@ds_1793 Yeah pretty sure 12-18 JK is what is considered gen 1.

[@Crown_VIII]

Deff upgrading my jlu

[@MidlandTexan]

The only issue I had with my 2013 Ram 1500 3.6 liter was the stupid a$$ location of the oil filter, and the fact is an element and not a spin-on filter... not to mention the stupid location of the internal cage, which of course was plastic. I have a 2022 Durango with the 3.6... runs like a top, like the 2013 did.

[@عمارمنصور-د8ط]

Thank you

[@ryan.crosby]

Jeep must know that the plastic coolant crossover is problematic because the Wrangler comes with an OEM metal crossover from the factory.

[@bsquare6809]

JESUS CHRYSLER what were you thinking making all these vital parts out of plastic?

[@albertc.gomezsr.9464]

What about valve springs? 2014 engine. Gone through two engines due to valve spring breaking and dropping valve into cylinder destroying engine. Will never buy another dodge or chrysler.

[@DormanProducts]

Thank you so much for your new product idea! I will let our product team know!

[@sherrilowe9316]

Great ideas BUTTTTT the aluminum oil cooler fails more than the original plastic! My friends service shop has had to replace EVERY Dorman aluminum they installed back to the factory plastic. Great idea but bad exicution on that one. PLEASE fix correct the issues with it and get it out to the market.

[@bradsimpson4899]

Is it possible that your friends service shop is the cause? I've read through the comments and there is only one other mention of issues after installing these. I find it curious that every one that your friends shop has installed has failed.

[@monsterenergy927]

@@bradsimpson4899sounds like a shop rather than the part. I’ve had mine installed for around 30k miles at this point without issue

[@sherrilowe9316]

@@bradsimpson4899 It's possible? I think he was saying that they would crack. They quit selling them for a while and brought them back so they may have updated them just like the dealers sell updated from Dodge. I will be replacing ALL the plastic's that Dorman sells. I think we all know why Dodge/Jeep puts all the plastic parts on the engines ($$ to repair the intentional design flaws).

[@DKLGalactus5]

You know some plastics are stronger than metal. The plastic on those engine do not wear out. The oil leak on the plastic oil cooler are not from the plastic body but the O-ring seals at the oil cooler. the seals not the oil cooler body.

[@Bobcagon]

DRY START..That’s what kills the valve train. After engine shut down all the oil returns back to the pan. When left for 1 hour and then restart.. there is no oil in the gallery. The engine starts and no oil for 3 seconds. Repeat this for 100,000 miles and no oil in lifters or push arms. Results in rocker bearing and pin wear in rocker arms then owner is on hook for premature change out of damaged cam, lifter, rocker arms. THANKS CHRYSLER FOR THE EXTRA COSTS OF OWNING HOUR PRODUCT.

[@7628739]

People keep saying what a great motor it is, sad these after market parts are needed. The fatal flaw is the oil transfer during startups

[@onememories8523]

Very poor design from the OEM on those lifters. Clicking noise is a KNOWN issue on these engines.

[@UPerformace]

Baxter Performance solved the oil problem by adding a custom oil filter adapter with a check valve to stop about 1quart of oil from draining to the pan. That way valvetrain gets lubed instantly on startup. It also uses a typical oil filter from a 5.7l hemi I believe. Pretty neat but kind of expensive at $325-$385. Solves the expensive problem though.

[@onememories8523]

Just did my oil cooler and Baxter performance upgrade with the oil filter remote- what a pain in the butt mods. I should post some videos of that for my 2016 JK Rubicon soon.

[@UPerformace]

@onememories8523 I don't have the Baxter Adapter yet but im going to get it eventually. I'll need the extra cooling from a remote mounted cooler since my Challengers Pentastar is Turbo Charged.

[@azimmey]

It would be a miracle for any OEM to actually change a few things that cost $1.50 to them to make the engine more reliable but I know it’s planned obsolescence and how are they supposed to make money off parts if they don’t make them cheap

[@kaeosfactory]

ALUMINUM VALVE COVERS PLZ!! AND REMAKE AND MANUFACTURE SMALLER BETTER UPPER INTAKE PLENUM IN ALUMINUM.

[@witdaMacksauce]

Built proof you say!? Welll we Still need an aluminum upper and lower intake 🙃 ...sooooooooo what ya waiting for dorman 😏 we're waiting ❤ Why ? The lower intake bolts strip from just the slightest over tighten of the bolts. Guys have resulted to larger lag bolts as a fix. But it sucks and a lower aluminum intake would be so worth it to us!!!! We would be like please take our money seriously. If yall just wanna make money and aluminum upper intake would have the v6 pentastar guys grabbing those too. The problem? Plastic sucks and the throttle body bolts strip as well. So hear my campaign!! Chargers, challengers, grand cherokees, 300s, ...we would all love a lower and upper intake aluminum replacement. If only lower, that would be the bigger fix

[@DormanProducts]

Hello, thank you for your new product idea! I will let our product team know!

[@josemacbeth1641]

@@DormanProducts Give it more spacing for more air just like the PUG.

[@Justkevin377]

The engine that comes with the car had to get the Biden seal of approval for gas savings.

[@akmasn9429]

and what about the rockerrrrs !!

[@DormanProducts]

Thank you for your new product idea! I will let our product team know!

[@heythere6983]

Right I heard the rocker arms aren’t high quality , something about not being hardened enough? Or the needle bearings aswell. I saw this on a few videos .

[@prtcgv5105]

Great! Now, you guys need to develop kits to replace those "timing belts in oil" stupidity!

[@michelpage4877]

Think about it. Why would Stellantis make engine parts that would be less susceptible to break or malfunction. Even at the risk of having less customers who would buy their products. Maintaining the status quo only means more money for them. That’s how big corporations get bigger.

[@justinmontgomery3574]

Wish I'd had seen this video several months ago. The plastic parts suck. Very poor design

[@xMods-ld8nx]

your oil cooler sucks, the cast housing is fine

[@cooperparts]

Anything from Dorman products is junk last 1/3 life of O E M I sold auto parts for 45 years and Dorman destroyed aftermarket parts reputation

[@richardharris3672]

This is really a Fiat Engine

[@KeithBedard]

What’s the valve drain that is garbage the whole engine is garbage stay away from the Chrysler Jeep

[@peterboyd7452]

Ya we can all afford this lol

[@richardharris3672]

The Hemi is a better engine it’s not a Fiat Engine 😀

[@wvjeepguy8178]

Hemis have a lot of issues also, particularly with the oiling system.

[@DKLGalactus5]

Nice try.

[@jamesofallthings3684]

Step one, never use Dorman parts.

[@SooSmokie]

Step two, never let Droman use you either.