TICK TICK TICK! Dodge 3.6L Pentastar Rocker Arm Repair - 6 Mistakes to Avoid

I racked up some serious FAILS on this project! I thought maybe my mistakes could help others avoid them. At 130,000 miles our 2015 Dodge Grand Caravan started making a loud ticking sound from the engine. And then I learned all about the common and well known issue of failed rocker arms on the 3.6L Pentastar. I rolled up my sleeves and got to work. Links below!
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[@jmc6940]

I've been a professional technician over multiple brands. Big props for Showing your failures. You learn more from failures than success. Believe it or not the same stuff goes on behind closed doors at the dealerships.

[@sstressfl]

I appreciate it my friend 🙏 That is exactly how I have learned over the years. Ya gotta do, and not be afraid to fail. And yes, I believe you!

[@velvetbear7184]

Dodge has to many fails. So much to learn then. Better to learn from car makers that don’t fail so we can create a reliable vehicle based on what actually works. US automakers have a lot to learn.

[@sstressfl]

@@velvetbear7184 I have read and heard good things about changes Stellantis is making at Mopar to deliver higher quality vehicles.

[@midship_nc]

Chrysler technician here. We just leave the cam gear tool between the gears, take the bolts out and pull the phasers off the end of the cams enough to remove them without removing the phaser from the chain. This way, you don't have to worry about setting timing up which can be a pain on the pentastar, and the chain doesn't drop or jump. Good job!

[@sstressfl]

Yes!!! That was exactly the plan until I could not get them back onto the end of the cams. I didn’t realize I didn’t release the cam chain tensioner enough until later 👍 terrifying thought to have that chain skip a tooth or drop.

[@midship_nc]

@sstressfl yeah our tensioner tools are either missing or so used they do not work well anymore. Plus there are two versions now, for the updated 3.6 which are usually missing lol. I don't remove tension when doing lifters and rockers. Just torque the cam down and wiggle the phaser back on, you will have to twist the cam back and forth with a wrench a few degrees to get the index pin mated. It is tight, but possible. And hey, you just saved yourself like...1600 dollars...I think, I don't really keep up with the prices people pay anymore.

[@sstressfl]

@midship_nc huge time saving and awesome tips. Thanks for sharing 🙏

[@EYE2CNEARS2HEAR]

So glad to listen to your sermonic narrative, instead of the usual profanic oops language. May God continue to bless you.

[@TheBamayaker]

Great video on how a normal guy can fix his car as long as he’s researched the job and understands what needs done. As a pro Mechanic for over 40 years I’ve learned some lessons. Take you’re time, make sure you have the right tools and you can do it. Even pros hit stumps everyday . The mistakes you were brave enough to show may be as valuable to viewers as the rest of the video. By the way I despise torx head bolts! Good job!

[@sstressfl]

Thats such encouraging feedback! Thank you 🙏I asked my Dad once, "When did you rebuild your first engine?" He said he was 15 and his dad's car engine failed and they didnt have money to fix it. So he went to the library and found a manual for that car! He told me his motto was "if I can read, I can fix it." Pretty awesome lesson. And of course now we have video and groups, etc etc. Whew! Thanks again for taking time to share your thoughts.

[@TheBamayaker]

@@sstressfl my brother and I rebuilt our first engine when he was 15 I was 16. We had a old motors manual in the mid 70’s. It was a 327 hi perf Chevy. It ran but not good. We took it to our mechanic buddy and he discovered we put hydraulic lifters on a solid lift cam and wiped out lifters. He installed solid lifters . That 327 in a 64’ El Camino became a local fast car had 4 speed. Those hot rod days prompted us both to go to tech school when we graduated high school and take Diesel Technology. We both had great careers as pro technicians. But it all started with the 327 project. God is good.

[@sstressfl]

@@TheBamayaker All the time, amen brother!

[@reallydistracted1]

@@sstressfl That is a really cool story about your dad, thanks for sharing. 'If I can read, I can fix it.' - A great motto to live by, not just for cars.

[@sstressfl]

@@reallydistracted1 So true! A great little piece of wisdom I keep top of mind and very encouraging too! Thanks for the feedback 🙏

[@alvarojcamposg]

Doing this to my Journey now, 150,000 the original owner never changed the OEM plugs and wow what a dried up rusted mess! I gotta do the coils also but the rocker arm ticks so I’m gonna swap those puppies out and save this engine! Edit: Small update, Spark Plugs and coils swapped, deleted resonator & both mufflers along with a e85 in the tank now and she runs like butter 🔥

[@sstressfl]

Sounds like it’s in desperate need of some tlc. Sounds like it’ll be just fine once you get it repaired and freshened up 💪👍

[@hokehinson5987]

Really enjoyed the video especially your positive attitude toward obstacles as they presented. The video is inspiration to the mechanically inclined to attempt such a fix. Success in your future endeavors! Cheers

[@sstressfl]

Appreciate your kind words. Cheers my friend :)

[@tomm3338]

Good job! Thanks for showing the mistakes. A real world video means a lot 👍🏻

[@sstressfl]

Thank you! I appreciate it 🙏

[@ryanwilson6162]

Subscribed. It's evident this man has a winning attitude and humility that has gotten him through a lot. Hope to learn more from him!

[@sstressfl]

Thank you for your kind words brother🙏

[@joebaker4101]

It was a pleasure to watch the video and share the mistakes. I am looking at buying a Dodge Journey with the 3.6L and trying to look into any potential problems. Thnx for sharing, I definitely know the feeling you share at the end of the video.

[@sstressfl]

I have been told that 2016 and newer 3.6s have had continuous improvement! Happy hunting for your new ride 🙏

[@MrRabidninja2]

Thank you so much for making this video and the level of detail included! I have a '12 Charger that has probably 3 or so rockers that have noise to them now, and I was struggling to find a proper video that showed a home mechanic doing the work with affordable tools! I should now be able to do this work in May when I get a week off. Thank you so much! God Bless you.

[@DetroiterDave]

Absolutely wonderful video. Thanks for taking the time to produce this. I can say for sure that it will be very helpful for me as I have to do the same exact thing on my own van. And although you made it look fairly straightforward, I'm sure I will have a headache or two in the process.

[@sstressfl]

I hope my mistakes helps you avoid any headaches 👍 Thank you for the kind words my friend 🙏

[@gregh3607]

Thank You so much for this! I have to tackle this job as soon as I'm finished with a suspension overhaul on my old Subaru, and your video took away a lot of the trepidation I had. Special thanks for including the size of the cam phaser end bolts and the cap bolts. Again, great job.

[@sstressfl]

Hope your Subaru project ends well and I’m sure you’ll be relieved when you’re done with the rocker project 👍💪 thank you for the feedback my friend 🙏

[@krestonharness6610]

Very nice video sir. I'm tackling this job tomorrow. Much appreciated, especially the 36mm socket size

[@sstressfl]

Prayers for a safe and successful project 🙏 appreciate the feedback!

[@reallydistracted1]

Supreeeeemly helpful!! (Especially the fails!) My 2012 Chrysler T&C has the same problem, researching what will be required, planning on doing it over Christmas break. You did a terrific job laying it out, presenting the problems, highlighting the steps. I appreciate the time you took for the links in the comments. Kudos! Will watch for more of your videos. Cup of coffee on me!

[@sstressfl]

Truly appreciate the feedback! Prayers for wild success on your project 🙏

[@reallydistracted1]

The job is complete, replaced the oil cooler with a metal unit as well. Engine is LIKE NEW! Quiet, powerful, and smooth. My mechanic wouldn't even touch it. Thanks again man!

[@sstressfl]

@@reallydistracted1I love it! Congratulations 🙌🙏💪👏👏👏

[@morales198022]

Awesome vid. I learned so much. I have a charger and now I know if one of my rockers fails i can change it out by going back watching you do it.... Thank you souch for posting.

[@sstressfl]

Thanks for the feedback 🙏 Lets hope you never need new rockers! :) Thanks Jay!

[@stevenblack9324]

A really nice job and i was so impressed with your patience.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you! 🙏

[@andrewhuber3575]

Best part of the video is the way you handled the fails. I just went through a similar replacement of all the rocker arms on a Jeep Wrangler. Same engine just rotated 90 degrees as it's rear wheel drive (primary). And yes, I too stripped two of the cam shaft fastener bolts when accidently using a T-27 instead of a T-30.

[@sstressfl]

I am not alone!! lol It happens especially when you only have to tear into an engine once every decade or more :) But hey, my dad always said we all make mistakes. But the diff between a pro and a non-pro is how well you recover from the mistake. He was talking about golf, but I apply the concept to everything 😄 Appreciate the feedback and sharing 🙏

[@andrewrudlang2785]

Nice work and thank you for sharing the full experience ups and downs.

[@sstressfl]

thank you 🙏

[@danz1910]

Great video. It is of great help to people having the common failure and that can't afford a 2-3k repair bill

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏 so glad it helps 👍

[@Breatenheathen]

I have the tapping on my caravan, no mechanic in my town will touch it. Thanks to you I may give it a try!

[@sstressfl]

Hopefully you caught it before it ate your cam. If it did I have read a new cam is about $300. That’s not bad. Come back and let me know how it went!! Praying for your success 🙏

[@gnutz0]

All the mechanics I asked, said change the engine.

[@ImadeItTillMidnight]

This is giving me the confidence to try this on my AWD journey

[@jimmykowalski7605]

Awesome , Im getting ready to do the exact job, but a little apprehensive about cam, your video will definitely help, thanks, keep up the great work ! nice to hear you giving thanks for your ability,

[@sstressfl]

Thank you for the kind words. Praying your project goes smoothly 🙏

[@ATLGRINDER]

Great video! An honest example of the way it goes working on vehicles. I do it everyday for a living working on all different makes and models. Everything always changing and problems are inevitable. Most repairs can be done at home with a reasonable amount of mechanical aptitude but a shop makes things much easier and tools are a must. Some may criticize the decision not to change them all but I will likely do the same. I have a Dodge Charger with the same issue. Thanks for the video! Even people who do this work for a living watch KZbin videos for guidance. Truth is, we use KZbin a lot so hats off to KZbin for providing the platform and a big thanks to everyone taking the time to share their information, not just on this subject matter but everything we learn about at KZbin University.

[@sstressfl]

I appreciate your feedback 🙏 I’ve been working on vehicles my whole life but not often enough to remember all of the little tricks and traps that you probably know so well 😁. I could kick myself when I mess up but thankful that I have enough experience to get myself out of a jam. I agree! I think KZbin and it’s creators are amazing and I appreciate all of the people that take the time to share 🙏🙏 thanks again for your feedback. 142k on our van and it’s still running great without issue 😎🙏👍💪

[@JW-rm9gn]

I appreciate you including the mistakes! It definitely helps to be reminded of what could be overlooked. Also, Rockauto is the only place to buy parts!!!

[@sstressfl]

Thank you! And rockauto had the best prices on this stuff too! RA is always my first stop when I'm shopping for car parts 👍

[@home8046]

My hero. Nice job. Owning three of these one needs to get good at this repair... Thanks for this great video

[@sstressfl]

Thank you so much 🙏❤️

[@chukbacca]

Thanks for showing that dad's can do this. There are excellent videos in legit shops...but us dads are working in less than ideal circumstances. This video and your transmission video helped me build confidence. I have a 2011 with 141k and just finished the rear (I did the front a couple weeks ago). The front set went just fine...the back was much more challenging - time will tell if I got it right :). I had two bad rockers and two that were going bad.

[@sstressfl]

I appreciate the feedback! Saving money and using what ya got. It’s what us dads do for the family 💪 I’m sure they appreciate your hard work.

[@butchmichaels69]

You're my new hero!! I have 35k on my 2019 Cherokee and want to be prepared for the inevitable failures. I will be more proactive in changing the oil in shorter periods. I have the 3.2 and hopefully it holds up. Thank you!!

[@sstressfl]

Hopefully you won’t have any issues! Appreciate the feedback and kind words 🙏

[@danz1910]

My 2020 has it, 3.6. 40k miles. Be prepared and use the occasion to replace spark plugs. Your 2019 needs slightly different tools for the tensioners

[@amosyazzieiv8925]

Awesome video 😂 totally relatable, I just had an oil leak with the plastic oil cooler housing and upgraded it to the aluminum housing and definitely had my fair share of ups and downs on the way and could relate with the great feeling of fixing and overcoming all the minor set backs during the repair 😂 subscribed 🙌

[@sstressfl]

I love it! You describe the process very well 😂 The planning, prep, the unexpected obstacles….. and that word ….overcoming. Well chosen 🙌 Congratulations on your projects success 🙏👏👏👏

[@jonathandacostasilva5133]

I usually don’t watch this stuff but this guy was funny af with all the fails.

[@sstressfl]

Lol thanks man 🤣

[@Mike_44]

Awesome work! I know the feeling. Thanks for recording this. Hopefully I'll never have to do this on my '19 Pacifica.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏 I like to think they made improvements 😁 praying you see many many miles of trouble free operation 🙏💪

[@Mike_44]

@@sstressfl Hopefully! Thank you. 👍🏻

[@youkofox]

Bless you, brother. Now I know about that annoying sound from my van.

[@sstressfl]

Praying for a successful and affordable repair. God bless you 🙏

[@TosurviveBabylon]

There is nothing better than Him brother. Getting ready to change my lifters and Cam just searching through videos to get used to seeing what I will have to be done. I noticed your music in the background.

[@sstressfl]

Amen brother! All is grace through Christ. So thankful to know Him. Appreciate the feedback.

[@Austinmat10]

Doing this job tomorrow on my 2013 Chrysler 200, wish me luck! Thanks for the great video and tips!

[@sstressfl]

Prayers for your wild success!!! Let me know how it goes 👍

[@ColdComrade]

How did it turn out?

[@Austinmat10]

@@ColdComrade it went well, job done successfully and no more ticking!

[@sstressfl]

@@Austinmat10 woooohoooo!! 👏👏👏

[@ColdComrade]

@@Austinmat10 happy to hear that bro.

[@ambermcmurtry]

You are humble and Thank You For that!!!

[@sstressfl]

By His grace alone 🙏❤️ God bless you 🙏

[@lweston71]

We have a 2016 Caravan. And I don’t want to do this. But congratulations on a job well done 👍.

[@sstressfl]

I didn’t want to do this either lol Thank you 🙏

[@michaelvinalon3415]

Amen ! Great video ! Thanks for sharing !!

[@sstressfl]

Thank you brother 🙏

[@AwakeningProcedure]

Thank you! great video

[@mostlymoparih5682]

Love the excitement and the hand and arm pumps. Amen. Thank you Lord. We bought a 2012 T&C with 115k on it a few years ago. I changed the oil and filter right away and every five grand since. I use 10-30 in the summer and 5-39 in the winter. We are at almost 140k and due for another change. No ticking and it runs great. Good video. Happy Motoring.

[@sstressfl]

Oh that is so awesome to hear. From what I read, the rocker failure comes from inconsistent manufacturing quality. Once I felt them in my hand I realized they were very high quality pieces. It must have to do with the metal casting process. Some fall apart. Most don’t. Chrysler supposedly fixed it in 2016. Whatever it was, it certainly didn’t fail due to poor maintenance 😁 my dad taught me that most cars will go and go and go as long as you do the maintenance. Good for you for taking such good care of your 2012. Bless you brother 🙏🙏 thanks for sharing 🙏

[@attackbike]

Love the video, had to watch it again. Too funny!

[@sstressfl]

Love it!! Thanks for the encouragement ✌️💪🙏

[@golferpro1241]

Nice job. 2016 Wrangler 3.6 Pentastar. I have the lifetime on it. 77,000 on it. So far so good. 3,000 mile oil changes

[@sstressfl]

Oil changes make a HUGE difference. My engine was spotless inside and I am the same as you with oil changes. I just bought a new RAM 1500 and treating it the same :) Enjoy that Wrangler!

[@JHKloss]

You are a pentastar hero, my friend! Hope I can do it too.

[@sstressfl]

Praying for your success!!

[@killabee623]

Great JOB man !

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏

[@TheDenaLife]

I have to say, that was an awesome and raw video. I have a 2015 Jeep Gramd Cherokee with the same engine but rear wheel drive so my engine belts face the front of the vehicle, not transversely mounted. It was awesme to watch you repair the problem and NOT pay a dealer or shop upwards of $600 to do the job. WIth your knowledge you will be able to go back in for a variiety of repairs and know what to do and know how to fix the problem or at lelast have a much better idea. I have an oil leak and think the culprit is a wire cought between the valve cover and head. Any way, awesome video. Thanks for sharing.

[@sstressfl]

I appreciate your encouraging words 😁🙏 FYI After this job I later discovered a minor valve cover leak above the alternator. When I lowered the head cover down I did not notice the plastic shield that protects the alternator had made its way between the engine and head cover. Uhhhg! I had to go back in and reseat it. But it only took 30 mins. Practice makes perfect.

[@chuckz8053]

Nice work, thanks.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏

[@AChocolateStarr]

This is by far the most friendliest & informative video I have stumbled upon on this issue. I've been looking up videos for about 2 months on and off. I have a 2016 Chrysler 300 S that has developed this issue a 105k miles ☹️. Thought it was because I went over changing my oil by like 2000 miles, but the oil change did not help it was too late.. I wish that I knew someone locally who could perform this repair for me! But I have a warranty and will dreadfully have to take it to the dealership I guess. . I hate how my car sounds! Lol ,😆 like a lawn mower it's so embarrassing!

[@sstressfl]

Thank you for the kind words! That's very encouraging and I agree, the sound made our vehicle sound so junky! I hated it too. But it can be fixed and your car will be smooth and once again... even better that you have a warramty to cover the repair 🙏 Thanks again for the feedback.

[@joeengelhardt6447]

love your video i am about to check out my 3.6 l engine today. i have a 2021 challenger gt with 30,000 kms . ticks loud in the morning them go quiet . when its warm you hear a trio of ticking as it shifts through the gears from 1500 to 3000 under light accereration. im praying to JESUS to help me correct my ticking 3.6 litre pentastar. awsome video

[@sstressfl]

@@joeengelhardt6447 Thank you Joe 🙏I havent heard it but from what you've described I would be tempted to change my oil and filter. I would use a good synthetic with the factory recommended weight. Then get a new oil filter like a fram tough guard and see if the noise stops. If not get in their with a good stethoscope or even a wood broom handle (rest one end against the engine the other against your ear) and listen to the inside of the engine. Hopefully it's just a simple fix. Praying for you brother!

[@joeengelhardt6447]

@sstressfl hey there it's Joe i took apart the top end of my 21 challenger 3.6 litre and found my ticking problem I inspected the rocker arms took them out of the car.the were in excellent condition.but I found a few spongy valve lash adjusters on the passenger side bank one. I replaced all 12 valve lash adjusters . On the drivers side I did not find any defective rocker arms or valve lash adjusters. I put it back together and it is very quiet now and the car performs very well I am happy. Thank you for your video that inspired me to take on this job.and thank you to my Lord Jesus to guide me along.

[@sstressfl]

@@joeengelhardt6447 The rockers feel like quality pieces! Shame there are some with defective bearings. So glad you inspected and found your issue and resolved it. Such a wonderful feeling of completion! God bless you brother! I hope you had a Merry Christmas.

[@andrewf.909]

great work

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏

[@deanbaird4425]

I'm getting ready to do the same job so I thought is was very helpful

[@sstressfl]

Fantastic :) Thanks for the feedback. Hope the best outcome for your project 🙏

[@deanbaird4425]

@@sstressfl thanks brother

[@ricvanwinkle1665]

Not bad for a nube. You know there a plenty of KZbin mechanics who’ve done this job and tell you the right socket size silly rabbit, but kudos to you for doing a very very difficult job. Now the bad part of the video is when I see you have completed this job, I now have to complex this. I hate having that complex 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Great job bro 😎

[@sstressfl]

Funnier story… My dad was a drag racer. I’ve been working on cars since I could walk. I just don’t do it as much anymore because new cars don’t break very often. It’s been years since I’ve cracked open an engine. I get out of practice. Oh well. The van has 145k miles on it now and still running like a top 🤗 very thankful for that. Thanks for the feedback 🙏

[@11Bravo84]

Well done sir ‼️

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏

[@30kendel]

Awsome video…. You are a great DIYer.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you my friend 🙏

[@jamesanderson4014]

Sharp video great job.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you James 🙏

[@ambermcmurtry]

I'll add one thing for anyone who snaps a valve cover bolt! I removed without re-opening the cover and ruining the new seal by using pliers and a vice grip to twist out the bottom of the broken bolt and then the top just pops out with a claw grip hammer (I was scared to try but read it somewhere and it worked)

[@sstressfl]

As long as you got it out, you win! 👍

[@oiygfdxssfgg]

I'm glad it worked out for you

[@sstressfl]

thank you 🙏

[@oiygfdxssfgg]

@@sstressfl I'm thinking of buying a Dodge Journey with a V6 but was researching that engine and found your video, are the bodies prone to rusting.

[@sstressfl]

@@oiygfdxssfgg I don’t know much about the journey but our minivan has survived quite well in the Vermont winters.

[@oiygfdxssfgg]

@@sstressfl I thought it was the Journey, sorry.

[@sstressfl]

@@oiygfdxssfgg No worries :)

[@nickm764]

Kudos on showing the failures, takes balls to do that, but that's how we learn. ;)

[@sstressfl]

Thank you my friend. Its definitely how we learn. Cannot be afraid to fail. We only get better with every mistake.

[@xzysyndrome]

"Son of a gun!!! Look what was in the bottom of the box!!!" Story of my life lol. Was nice to see someone do this job who isnt an everyday mechanic busting these out all day. I just pulled my Jeep into the garage...about to launch into this job to save thousands of dollars. Not even worried about the actual part replacement...more concerned with getting everything I need to take out back together. Notebook, paint pens, tape, and a sharpie...

[@sstressfl]

Lol I appreciate the feedback and nice to encounter someone who can relate!! Preparation is everything 👍 I’m sure you’ll do great AND save thousands! I don’t know how anyone affords a shop. My best.

[@xzysyndrome]

@@sstressfl I have the luxury of taking my time...about to take off the valve covers tomorrow. The whole time I am thinking...I hope I dropped enough bread crumbs. Wrangler tear down is stupid...

[@sstressfl]

@@xzysyndrome I look fwd to feedback on your completed and successful project 🙏💪👍

[@xzysyndrome]

@@sstressfl Jeep has been sitting in my garage all this time. Finally found the time to get to it. Discovered the bad rocker...cam is not chewed up...replaced all the rockers and lifters....putting it all back together now. Snapped the Engine Block ground putting the valve cover back on. Took me a few days to realize what the broken wire was. The Mopar tension tool didnt even work on the right bank. Had to cheat the cam phaser off to get it out enough to lift the cam shaft. What a headache...been loving it. Miss my Jeep...love the excuse to slink off to the garage for a few hours.

[@sstressfl]

@xzysyndrome so glad your cam was good 👍 💪 it’s never fun but amazingly satisfying when you do it yourself and it works 🙏🙌

[@BryanPAllen]

Thanks for this

[@sstressfl]

Im so glad it helped! And thank you for the feedback 🙏

[@user-kw5ze5ky5q]

I’ve always replaced both banks. If one fails, the rest aren’t far behind. The worst was at the dreadful used car dealership where many of the Chargers that I fixed had 5 or so failed rockers and some had even fallen out of placed

[@sstressfl]

The rockers have manufacturing defects. They dont all fail the same. I inspected all of the rest on the one side and they had zero play. And since I was under deadline I decided to call it done. So far so good 😃

[@mfaltz1]

I did just the passenger side on my wrangler 20,000 miles ago. Still no ticks on the driver’s side.

[@joegreen9827]

great video this should be a recall every 3.6 ticks

[@sstressfl]

A common failure for sure. It’s been good since I fixed it 👍 thanks for the feedback 🙏🙏

[@schwartzenheimer1]

Nice job.

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏

[@squidskunk]

thanks for the vid ... thumbs up!

[@sstressfl]

Thanks man 🙏

[@JasPlun]

I am so Thankful I talked my wife out of buying a Dodge Caravan and instead buying a Toyota. I got a friend that just purchased a Journey they needed very badly and 3 days later find out it has a cracked cylinder head.

[@sstressfl]

We’re looking at the Toyota awd hybrid for our next van 👍

[@JasPlun]

They have the lowest cost of ownership over the lifetime of the vehicle and highest resale and trade in values so they make the most sense financially. They may be a bit higher up front than the competition, but over the time you own it you will spend less money. Rav 4 vs. GMC Acadia the Acadia is cheaper up front , but will cost you an arm and a leg in repairs down the road. Better to buy quality up front IMO. All vehicles are a Crap shoot so you might as well bet on the car maker that has the best odds which is Lexus 1st and Toyota 2nd. @@sstressfl

[@Soothsayer-rs5nb]

Great video, I wrap the negative cable in a rag after disconnecting it. While your working it wants to go back to the terminal and make a connection... I had a shocking experience once.

[@sstressfl]

Absolutely that’s why I covered mine with foam insulation! That cable has a memory and wants to go back to the terminal 👍

[@PAPAEMU]

Some dodges with the battery in the bumper and the relays on top have a hole on the negative cable connector that you use to screw it to a mount on the car made for it to hold it out of place

[@sstressfl]

@@PAPAEMU thats pretty cool :)

[@silvergate8952]

Great video!!!!!!!!thank you so much

[@sstressfl]

Appreciate it 🙏

[@davidderoode7691]

Thanks awesome video

[@sstressfl]

Appreciate it! 🙏

[@pjcamou]

Don't usually comment, but this is the best DIY I have seen for a while. I need to do this same project on my 2015 and I could find anything start to finish and clearly presented. My kids saw me watching this and said, "is that a Dad?" I responded in the affirmative, maybe that why this is resonating with me. Had to write something. Do you know all in all with extra tools and material what the cost was for you ? I feel like i have the same tools you started with, but I would also need to get the Cam Tensioner and that 36mm socket. Great Video.

[@sstressfl]

I think I spent just under $300 on parts. Knowing what I know now I would not have purchased 24 rockers. Maybe just 12 for the one side. But I did buy brand name quality parts. FelPro gaskets. And I read a lot of mixed reviews of hit or miss quality with the amazon-made-in-china rockers so I bought Melling. I did make a list with links of things I purchased and shared it in the description below the video. And the 36mm socket was about $20 I think. And you'll see a link to the cam tensioner tool. Its only $16. Not too bad! Us Dad's can do a lot of things :D Praying for your successful project! Thank you for your kind words.

[@middledorf]

Unfortunately I already dropped my Jeep off at a local repair shop. If I’d watched your video first I’m confident I could have done the job myself. Kudos to you!

[@sstressfl]

That's ok! I'm sure they'll do a good job and a lot faster than it took me :D I appreciate the feedback my friend 🙏

[@deadbol8090]

How much did it come out to be at the dealership if u don't mind me asking

[@middledorf]

@@deadbol8090 sorry I just noticed your question. Believe it or not I wound up doing the repair myself! I took my Jeep to an independent shop that came highly recommended. When they opened it up they noticed the exhaust cam on the drivers side had “lost its hardness” they recommended just running it until it drops! I paid them $150 to close it up and I brought it home. I watched both videos several times and made notes of parts tools and supplies needed. I got the rockers, lifters, cam and gaskets from Rock Auto. I spent 3 days (taking my time) and followed the videos to the letter. There was one bad rocker (only 58k miles on it) and the bad cam. I did replace all rockers and lifters on the drivers side. The engine runs flawless now!!

[@deadbol8090]

@middledorf thank you yea I hear a knocking as well so I think I'm going to have to do the same thing as you, thank you so much

[@erickmendoza2546]

@@middledorf hey have you still got that list of parts tools and supplies? Would be really aprecciated.

[@reallydistracted1]

Thanks!

[@sstressfl]

Hey thank you! 🙏

[@05fordvan]

Are you an automotive technician? If not, you sure make it looks like you're one. You are fearless with this type of job. I would've been scared half to death.

[@sstressfl]

I appreciate the encouragement 🙏 I’m not! But I did grow up in a drag racing family 😎😀 I’ve never done this specific work on this specific engine before but I have spent my whole life working on engines. Less in recent years but an engine is an engine… as long as I can find a manual or good videos I am usually not afraid to dig in. My dad used to say “if I can read, I can fix it”. But I have to admit I always worry that something could go wrong and would cost more time and money. By the grace of God, this went well 👏👏👏 Thanks for the feedback my friend.

[@dennissytsma3561]

I'm trying to tell a relative to let me do it for them, but they want the dealer to do the job.

[@chrischapman7452]

Christ in your life is a beam of light! Your a great influence! You are a spiritual fruit tree my man! You taught alot in this video and how to fix the rockers lol

[@sstressfl]

Thank you for your kind words! God is good :)

[@etothej]

Hello from Brattleboro! I just got a 2023 Durango with the 3.6L. Hoping I don't encounter any of these issues until much later! lol

[@sstressfl]

Hey neighbor 😎 Very nice ride. I have read, and I agree, that Stelantis has done good things with Mopar in recent years. Quality has improved and improving! I hope you never have to deal with the issue as well. Peace, my friend! Thanks for the feedback 🙏

[@bonilla1221]

Great video, I’m getting ready to do the same job, how long would you say this job takes from start to finish?

[@sstressfl]

Thank you 🙏 I’m sorry to hear that you have to do this project as well. I think I could have finished this in a day if I did not have to drive to the store a few times it’s not that bad as long as you have everything and don’t make mistakes 😁

[@gemeinschaftsgeful]

This is an accurate portrayal of all the sh** that happens when you try to do a big repair on your own vehicle.

[@sstressfl]

My dad always said the diff between a pro and an amateur is that they both make mistakes. But the pro knows how to get out of it :) This is true of any profession... mechanics, drivers, golf, construction, business, etc.

[@ATLGRINDER]

It’s an accurate portrayal of the stuff that happens when us pros do a major repair on your vehicle too. Everything going perfect is rare unless you work on the same vehicles, doing the same repairs, over and over. This is definitely a doable repair at home for the average Joe with a little mechanical aptitude and the proper tools. A positive attitude is one of the most important tools you have and can definitely make or break the job.

[@ZxSkyLineKidxZ]

So cool! I own a Dodge Challenger and I'm having issues with Misfiring and Coil Pack Connectors 😂 Now, I feel like a pro getting just my intake Manifold off. Just waiting on the parts to replace. You also remind me of my dad using Alexa to play his Christian Reggae music when he works at home on something 😂 When it's my time to replace the rockers on my engine, I know now I'll need to have another car to use because this job seem to be a 1-2 day job.

[@sstressfl]

You get to know these engines lol Yer dad sounds like a good guy! I agree having a backup car is important. But mostly cuz you might realize you need something. Or you might strip a cam cap bolt (uhhg!) :) Praying your project goes smoothly.

[@juangruiz2244]

Hello, i had the same problem with 2014 3.6 jeep grand cherokee... i replaced all lifters & Rockers... put everything back together, really excited about it... it ended up not turning over just cranks... really disappointed...

[@sstressfl]

I read a forum post of that happening and the guy found out that the rockers he bought from Amazon were too thick and were keeping the valves open. So he paid for brand name and replaced the bad ones and it started right up! Maybe that’s your issue!?

[@roadrunnerForLife]

Great job! Do you have a repair manual including the torque specifications for your Dodge Grand Caravan? I'm interested in the torque specifications.

[@sstressfl]

I use alldata for specs and tightening sequence www.alldata.com 👍

[@roadrunnerForLife]

@@sstressfl Thank you so much.

[@MrShlee1]

Wow man great job! Trial and error you know, I get it. I do have a question, I just picked up the 2023 Jeep grand Cherokee 3.6 pentastar. This is the new generation engine I really hope alot of these issues were addressed

[@sstressfl]

My understanding is that they upgraded the rockers in 2016! The engine seems to have gotten better and better. I don’t see the issues on the newer models. Change your oil every 5k. Use quality synthetic. It’s a good engine 👍

[@richardcotreau9004]

Have a 2017 jgc 67k just replaced tires, rear brakes, pulley tensioner and serpentine. Waterpump went at 35k under warranty. Bad batch of wp . Stick with pennzoil no loss. Penstar Likes to drink Mobil 1. Keep up on the maintenance

[@jeffwolf8018]

Jobs like this are why harbor freight are great.. all these tools you're needing, fabricating you can get at your local harbor freight. Generally very cheap.. and something that will work. That you can modify and not..

[@bartfox9187]

Did you have any metal flakes in your filter before the ticking started ? Very helpful video !

[@sstressfl]

None that I saw. I changed the oil as soon as I heard the noise thinking I could somehow fix it with fresh oil lol. I didnt put too many miles on it before I tore it down. Thanks for the kind words!

[@twisted2nr]

What brand oil did you use? Very clean internals. Ive used mobil 1 on my cars and had similar results. Also what interval did you change the oil

[@sstressfl]

Started with conventional factory spec oil. Quaker State usually. Then switched at around 100k to the same stuff that I was using on my Cadillac ATS (turbo car) Valvoline Advanced Synthetic, 5w20 spec. I change the oil in my vehicles often. The van and Truck get oil changes at less than 5k intervals. And always right before the hard winter for those cold harsh winter starts. I added a remote starter to the van as well so my wife and kids can get in with it warmed up 👍

[@firstlast---]

Fyi to anyone doing this at home. You can insert the cam phaser tool and remove one camshaft at a time. No need to mess with the tensioners. I bought a cheap kit and was having too many issues trying to release the tensioner, i found this method much easier

[@sstressfl]

I was able to remove the cams and leave the tensioners in place. But I could not get the cams back in until I loosened the tensioner (left side only, there is no tensioner on the right side).

[@genepierson1728]

Nice work! Thanks for sharing. I'll probably have to do this at one point or another. The odds are against me. I have two vehicles with the 3.6. One with 130K and one with 70K but no ticking yet. Can you tell me, how many hours roughly was the total job for you? Is the van still driving well for you? Did the other side develop any ticking?

[@sstressfl]

145k miles now and still smooth and quiet. It’s hard to assess how many hours cuz I wasted time running to the store a few times. But I think a casual Saturday in the garage would get it done. I did have to replace the oil cooler recently. The seals on the bottom were leaking oil. That went well.

[@user-sz9hl7bi6h]

Thank you for your kindness the lords wish Jorge Garcia Dallas Texas

[@sstressfl]

God bless you brother 🙏❤️

[@watsamatau]

I watched one mechanic here on YT that didnt even remove the cams to do this job . It was on a Jeep. He loosened the cam caps and one by one removed the rocker arms and lifters with a magnet . And then replaced them one by one working the cam shaft from back to front .

[@sstressfl]

I saw that too, but it has risks to cam damage so I decided speed was not more important. So I followed the manufacturers instructions 👍

[@watsamatau]

@@sstressfl yes sir , there's always that chance . I just had my wife's 300 done at 150000 miles . They replaced all of the lifters , rocker arms , two cam shafts , both timing chains , tensioners and rails . It was expensive but, a whole lot less than buying a new car .

[@sstressfl]

@@watsamatau Hey thats awesome. Same conversation my wife and I had when i suggested trading it in... the fix is cheap compared to that monthly payment. Nice job!

[@davidpardo8647]

Hi great video...!!! Congratulations I have a question.. you just changed the rockers on it. Correct? Didn't have to change any of the camshafts?. For How long time did you wait until you did the repair? (Since you started listening the ticking noise) So you can save the camshaft from damage because the bad arm rockers.? Thank you

[@sstressfl]

We drove 3 months with the noise before I was able to get to it. And yes just the rockers were replaced. Lifters were perfect. Cams were perfect.

[@davidpardo8647]

Very nice!! I really appreciate you answer..! I have little bit more than 5 weeks with the same noice. And I was worry about the time until I do the repairs.. I think I still on time even if I have to wait for 1 more month I guess... Thank you so much for you video and time to answer me

[@jaymortensen642]

Great video, did you know there is a service bulletin about those rockers you probably should have done the other side

[@sstressfl]

Yes I've read a lot about it. Mopar calls it inconsistency in rocker manufacturing quality. Like I said in the video, I ran into a deadline and called it done. I can go back in if I need to. So far so good with another 13k miles on it. I'm scheduled to replace the oil cooler this weekend. Much easier job!

[@fanzheng6480]

Hi Michael, I am wondering how long does it take you to replace all the front bay. Thanks

[@sstressfl]

I can tear the top of the engine down including the front (left) valve cover in 30-40 mins now. Is that what you mean? Or do you mean to replace the rockers as well?

[@kevinrumsey3756]

did you have to replace camshaft, or did you catch it early enough before camshaft damage was done? Thanks!

[@sstressfl]

I caught it early! No cam damage :)

[@Natter20002]

That was a great video. Mine just started ticking so I want to get into it asap before worse things happen ! What process manual etc did you end up finding and going with to guide you ? Would you be willing to pass that on? Thank you again for the video !

[@sstressfl]

I rely on alldatadiy.com as a service manual and KZbin videos for visuals and tips and tricks 👍

[@Natter20002]

@@sstressflweird I can’t find my 2011 Town and country on that site and I actually can’t find your Dodge Grand Caravan either ! But I feel like it’s a browser error

[@sstressfl]

@@Natter20002 you have to skip Dodge and select Dodge or Ram Truck. The see it as a truck apparently :)

[@Natter20002]

@@sstressfl thank you! This is an "extra" car so I'm not in a rush. I'm down to the step where I insert the plastic holding teeth. Needed that procedure for all the torque settings etc. Nice video than you!

[@sstressfl]

@@Natter20002 Not being in a rush is a blessing! Glad I could help in some way.

[@danielwright6897]

This job is awaiting me. I am very hesitant to tackle because of the delicate nature of the camshafts and timing chains. I have moderate experience as a diy home mechanic and can do most basic maintenance on cars. However, I don’t have much experience using a torque wrench, is there one you recommend to use or get for this?

[@sstressfl]

I know it can be intimidating. But you can pay $20 and get access to an online manual at alldatadiy.com. It helps! In this video I’m using a 33 year old craftsman beam 3/8 torque wrench. Ive always liked beam for fine work cuz sometimes the click/beep style can randomly fail. You can find a beam style on Amazon for $20-$50 range. Read the reviews! You’ll find one that will do the job for you 👍 Praying for your patience, preparation, planning and successful completion of this project 🙏🙏🙏

[@nickknudson870]

My 3.6L Pentastar (2011 Jeep GC) just recently started developing a similar ticking sound, but only when the engine is warm. When it is cold, there is no ticking.

[@sstressfl]

I would try listening with a broom stick... remove a broom stick from its broom head, and place one end on the engine where you think the sound could be, then place the other end gently against your ear. You'll be able to hear mechanical ticking more clearly. Move the stick around until you find the loudest and most likely cause of the tick. You might find that the sound is always there but its easier to hear when the engine is warm because its at a lower rpm. Hope you can diagnose it!

[@MikeLJ-ku7ov]

How do you get the cam phaser bolts off the back side of the motor I found there is no room to get a socket on it

[@calbob750]

My T&C 30th Anniversary made it to 134,000 then one day CEL. Dealer says “Cylinder Head Replacement” $3000. Because I was keeping this past the monthly loan payments I bought the FCA Max Care Lifetime Warranty. Smart move $900 Oil Filter Housing plus $2000 in other warranty work since new.

[@sstressfl]

Wow! What caused the cylinder head to fail?

[@golferpro1241]

I bought the warranty too. So far. Good move..2016 Wrangler

[@kevinrumsey3756]

@@sstressfl probably let the ticky tick go too long and wore the camshaft so badly that it wore into the cam retainers, half of which are built into the head.

[@chuckmetten3183]

I've seen people change the plastic oil filter/ oil cooler unit under the intake. Did you consider changing that since you had it apart. I've heard they are prone to leaking oil.

[@sstressfl]

I replaced my oil cooler recently with an aluminum kit from Dorman. Worked great! But I did not make a video. I just took some pics 👍

[@jacobtemple8404]

So I’m considering buying a 2014 300 that just had the rocker arms and cans replaced. Would it be a good vehicle then? Or does that lead to further problems? It was done at the dealer

[@kenik2023]

Nah...once you do it, it is fixed. The rocker arms are a manufacturer defect. You're replacing it with an improved part.

[@kevinrumsey3756]

I need to do this project. The only thing that scares me is the timing. I am still blurry on what you did to make your marks line up when you went down underneath. What are you looking for specifically there? Thanks again!

[@sstressfl]

This guy does an amazing job of step by step instructions for doing this job. This is part 1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpzVqKuMi8idqck

[@andrewslater5450]

How did you get to those front brackets without taking out the fan???? Thanks brother!

[@sstressfl]

If you mean the two steel brackets that hold the manifold, I used a box end wrench from underneath :)

[@lemanleygishie6185]

Did you have any misfire codes on the failed rocker cylinder? I think this is whats wrong with mine. Cylinder 2, code P0302. I have replaced everything else hoping this wasnt the problem. But looks like it.

[@WinterRider]

Was there a gasket on the valve cover when you took it off)? Is a new one needed or is just the lil divits with permatex

[@sstressfl]

Gasket! I bought new fel pros.

[@richardschneiderman1141]

amazing how a $10 part can ruin an engine if not taken care of quickly.. Great vid!!

[@sstressfl]

Ohh so true! Great way to look at it. Thanks for the kindness 🙏

[@richardschneiderman1141]

@@sstressfl almost makes me want to buy a dodge just to do this repair. so satisfying.

[@sstressfl]

@@richardschneiderman1141lol there are many who would let you do theirs I’m sure! 😂

[@antigroundhogday]

TY so much for documenting your process. Gives me the confidence I could do it on my own as opposed to paying a mechanic. Makes me sad though, as I found your video researching the reliability of the 3.6L Pentastar engine for a future purchase. 130k on a motor should have this problem (I'm used to Toyotas), how do you think the Dodge drivetrain compares to the competition when it comes to to reliability? Have you had other major troubles? Thanks again!

[@sstressfl]

I bought this van new for 25k in 2015 and that was considered very affordable back then! And I have been towing with this poor thing at or slightly over the 3500 weight limit and expected it to fail. And yet ... it's still rolling like it was new. I changed the trans fluid at 100k and its smooth and quiet. I'm very happy with it even with the rocker rebuild :) I did rebuild the front and rear suspension at 70k miles but we live on a very bumpy dirt road in rural VT. My Dad owns a 2016 and he hardly ever works on his but he lives in spotless clean smooth-road FL :) Would I buy another vehicle with a pentastar? I sure would! Especially now that Stellantis owns them and they just keep getting better. I just bought a new RAM 1500 truck with a hemi. It's truly impressive and yet the new Toyota Tundra is on Consumer Reports "do not buy" list. But if you have your sites on a specific vehicle, spend the $10 and read about it in consumer reports. It'll help you decide :)

[@antigroundhogday]

@@sstressfl Yes, I've read the new Tundras isn't as good as in the past. I also heard in 2016 the Pentastar 3.6L had some revisions for reliability. Glad you've had a good experience even with a tough life for your van. :)

[@sstressfl]

@@antigroundhogday And I believe the reviewers who have said Stellantis has been good for Chrysler. Its a different company today with much higher expectations for quality. Whatever you buy I pray you find a rock solid platform :)

[@antigroundhogday]

@@sstressfl one last Q if you have time... do you find the bolts on your modern Dodge to be Metric or SAE or both? Thinking about am emergency kit to have on the road. TY!

[@sstressfl]

@@antigroundhogday Metric! And they use Torx more than they used to :)