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How to Bypass GM VATS Security System

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@airdromeaccount7922
@airdromeaccount7922 Жыл бұрын
To anyone who has done this VATS bypass already and your car suddenly randomly wont start, check the fuses in the fuse box below the steering wheel. You need to use a multimeter because visually inspecting a fuse doesnt always work. I did the VATS bypass and one day my car just did not want to start. I used a multimeter on every single fuse till I found one that was not reading, ( the # 6 fuse was the culprit!) so I popped it out, replaced it and the car started right up. I hope this helps anyone out there who is frustrated with a "No start" condition, as I was. Dont give up!
@deadlead03
@deadlead03 Жыл бұрын
what was the fuse number 6 for?
@danielramos540
@danielramos540 19 күн бұрын
I’ve been frustrated I’m about to try it on my 92 z28
@jonathandye2812
@jonathandye2812 2 жыл бұрын
Too many people try to bypass this in the most difficult way possible. Thank you for showing people how to do it the easy and cheap way. This is exactly what I'll be doing when I have this issue.
@quantumq9725
@quantumq9725 5 ай бұрын
Me to
@hannahmontierth4609
@hannahmontierth4609 Ай бұрын
Sir, you don’t know how much this helped me I own a 1998 Cadillac El Dorado and all of a sudden my car started saying starter disabled remove key and I was told it’s my VA system that it doesn’t recognize it. I have the spare key that I have and when I brought the car sir, you help me out so much. I am now able to drive my car, I just have to get this done. I’ve been looking all over. KZbin your video was the one that explained it the best and actually showed how to do it.
@kendrickarchibald678
@kendrickarchibald678 2 жыл бұрын
If you still have your original key like me, all you have to do is solder the wires to the actual key. The key has the resistor built in so I just connected the wires to both sides of the little chip. If u can’t solder hot glue it or super glue it then I put a new lock cylinder in with new key and works every time lol. I couldn’t find any resistors at a store near me and could wait for them to ship so this worked perfect for me.
@budsodalsky
@budsodalsky 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, all I can say, is you are a great youtuber, you saved my rs - speedo fixing, key safety bypass, etc etc PLEASE keep the original type car content ! I could not have kept my RS all orig without you! Seriously! Your knowledge is very valuable!
@ar41555
@ar41555 Жыл бұрын
Hey I'm having the same problem with my 96 Impala. Did the false key ignition signal go away on your your dashboard after you by passed it?
@chris1le
@chris1le 2 жыл бұрын
I've found that cooling down the key helped me out when the VATS system reared its ugly head. Used to carry a can of compressed air and held it upside down to spray key. Eventually found a bypass piece on E-bay that was plug and play. No cutting of wires.
@thedarklordchinchin4873
@thedarklordchinchin4873 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the product? I need one now
@ClickClan100
@ClickClan100 Жыл бұрын
Don't leave us hanging bro. Send the link
@chris1le
@chris1le Жыл бұрын
Its been years since I did it. I just did a quick search and this seller on eBay has the closest looking kit to what I used. Was a lot cheaper back then. isimotorsports
@Don.keybals
@Don.keybals Жыл бұрын
Man that is way easier than I thought, thanks
@schadmoxey7848
@schadmoxey7848 2 жыл бұрын
I bypassed mine in a much easier way. The only thing the vats does is allow 12v to go from the neutral safety switch to the starter by opening a relay that is near the fuse panel. Just pull the relay and jump the 2 heavier gauge wires. Then the vats has no control over the starting.
@mylesherschberger9531
@mylesherschberger9531 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank you!
@sovereignentity4924
@sovereignentity4924 2 жыл бұрын
What two heavy gauge wires do I jump...? (Once I remove that solenoid )
@schadmoxey7848
@schadmoxey7848 2 жыл бұрын
@@sovereignentity4924 when you look at the connector it will have 4 wires, 2 smaller ga and 2 larger. Just install the jumper between the larger 2.
@sovereignentity4924
@sovereignentity4924 2 жыл бұрын
@@schadmoxey7848 So removing solenoid permanently , and jumping the two heavier gauge wires , and this alone will always bypass system and start car..? I have an 2005 Chevy Impala and will pray it works..!
@sovereignentity4924
@sovereignentity4924 2 жыл бұрын
@@schadmoxey7848 Thank you either way ... 🙏
@papergatorzfedducca7998
@papergatorzfedducca7998 7 ай бұрын
New subscriber🔥🔥🔥 You’re the first person to actually show the process. Thanks!!
@appalachiansheds2898
@appalachiansheds2898 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being so informative unlike some of the others
@brandonc.8356
@brandonc.8356 2 жыл бұрын
Glad my third gen didn't come with VATS so I don't have to worry about this.
@rubenperez1126
@rubenperez1126 2 жыл бұрын
You are the man !!!! Thank u my 1996 chevy carprice is doing the same goona do it I'll let know
@BrianPriceSr.
@BrianPriceSr. Жыл бұрын
What im trying to find out how to bypass the whole vats system completely i have a 96 rivieracan anyone tell me how to bypass the whole system cause i didnt get a key and the lock switch was drilled out,does it shut the injecters off or just the fuel pump and starter?
@youngbucksoldgoats
@youngbucksoldgoats 5 ай бұрын
Can you just buy a new key with the same ohms and have it cut ? Will that work without having to do the bypass ?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 5 ай бұрын
you can, it's just way more expensive than a $5 pack of resistors. the VATS wire can also break inside the tumbler, in that case a new key wouldn't work.
@redcamaro581
@redcamaro581 Жыл бұрын
Vats not only shut the starter it shuts the injection and fuel pump
@guillermocarrillo3253
@guillermocarrillo3253 Ай бұрын
thankyou for the information
@salehprohim9812
@salehprohim9812 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy watching your educational video . Thank you!
@willchaba6747
@willchaba6747 2 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful!
@The1972Cutlass
@The1972Cutlass Жыл бұрын
hey I been using a regular gm key for my third gen Camaro could I use the one with the black rubber on the end instead just want to make sure it doesn't affect the car in anyway if I use it
@benjaminrn9633
@benjaminrn9633 2 жыл бұрын
Excelente forma de sacarte de un apuro ,pero ya sabiendo el valor de resistencia es mejor comprar la llave original
@1980sSinaloense
@1980sSinaloense Жыл бұрын
Es mejor asi plebe yo tengo de estos camaros y poco a poco se les acaba el resistor a las llaves y luego tienes que pagar pa una llave nueve que te sale como $150+. De esta manera esta cabron que se quede el carro
@hogg1media627
@hogg1media627 Жыл бұрын
bro, the way you explained this and showed, a dog can do it! thank you
@eurocarpleurocarpl2057
@eurocarpleurocarpl2057 2 жыл бұрын
What was the resistor power you used? I have 91 zr1 abd wants to do the same
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 жыл бұрын
you have to measure the key and see. every car has a different resistance.
@Lazcano9
@Lazcano9 10 ай бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy my key read out .68 when I put my reader at 20k
@simsneon2
@simsneon2 Жыл бұрын
You should’ve soldered this in But maybe you didn’t have a soldering iron available thank you for still showing us
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
Crimps are superior to solder. I build aircraft for a living & there's almost solder in aircraft wiring
@donaldbattlejr
@donaldbattlejr 3 ай бұрын
What do you do to bypass the entire module? Can you make a way that requires no chip or resistor? What if the VATS module is bad and doesn’t work?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 3 ай бұрын
there are full bypass write ups on forums.
@RecruiterChronicles
@RecruiterChronicles 6 ай бұрын
This may be a stupid question. But I’m look at some of these and I don’t know which ones are the right ones. 1/4w 1/2w 1W and 2W. Which do I need? I have a 94 corvette
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 6 ай бұрын
use a multimeter and probe your key. if you don't have a key to probe, you can just guess. only 10 different Vats resistors so you just have to test all 10.
@budsodalsky
@budsodalsky 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew / saw this BEFORE exxon charged me $1,000
@cobygaurin4596
@cobygaurin4596 14 күн бұрын
If I lost the chip from my key do I have to just try each resistor?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 13 күн бұрын
yep, only 10 options so not hard.
@YT-User1013
@YT-User1013 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the other comment that this is the easiest way to do it rather than taking your dash apart as in other videos.
@HerecomestheCalavera
@HerecomestheCalavera 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to do this in a 1993 Buick Lesabre. I'm waiting on the resistors to arrive. I've looked under the dash and found the orange wire but mine doesn't have a plug of any kind. So do I do it basically the same way you did? Cut the orange wire and wire the resistor to the left side? Thanks.
@1980sSinaloense
@1980sSinaloense Жыл бұрын
Yes
@austincosta912
@austincosta912 2 жыл бұрын
As if my car wont read my key or locks me out for alittle then works
@thatfishingdude9356
@thatfishingdude9356 Жыл бұрын
My 97 le Sabre does that same thing
@SofiaPerez-qz4zo
@SofiaPerez-qz4zo Ай бұрын
Will this work on a 1997 caddy Deville ? Not sure of the spelling, but you know..
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy Ай бұрын
as long has it has the Key with the VATS chip in it.
@kennydemartini2169
@kennydemartini2169 2 жыл бұрын
While you're at it, pull the left kick panel off and bypass the starter relay also. You'll thank me later.
@budsodalsky
@budsodalsky 2 жыл бұрын
Go speed racer, Go speed racer, Go speed racer Goooo!
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Since my LS swap is nearing, I didn't want to re-wire anything only to gut it in a month.
@budsodalsky
@budsodalsky 2 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy Im really dissapointed that you are LS swapping that car.
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@budsodalsky i'm so sad to see that 122 horsepower of a 305 powerhouse go.
@budsodalsky
@budsodalsky 2 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy Yeah, because horsepower is all that matters! And bastardizing a beautiful original and replacing it with thousands of hacks is VERY different from every body else!👍
@heroknaderi
@heroknaderi Жыл бұрын
Cool Thanks
@dr.anibalbogos6651
@dr.anibalbogos6651 9 ай бұрын
I have a Buick Lesabre and I don't have the ignition key. How can I know the value of the resistor to do the bypass?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 9 ай бұрын
in the video it shows how to use a multimeter to check that.
@jameswoosley91
@jameswoosley91 Жыл бұрын
Jump the ground to the ignition to the last starter relay behind the glove box!!!!!!!
@nastynate8492
@nastynate8492 2 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a 91 camaro with the vats problem. I put a different ignition in it with a key that has a resistor instead of the ignition with a flat key. My question is should I be using the multimeter on the plug opposite of the orange wire instead of the key to get a resistor reading?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 жыл бұрын
not sure what you mean.
@masonsteinert4344
@masonsteinert4344 2 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy I'm struggling with a similar issue. I bought a 94. It ran pretty well considering. Now I have the vats issue. The car doesn't have the original key so I don't know how to get a resistance reading for the care. Any idea on how to go about it? The ignition wire was already cut when I dropped the kickboard but it wasn't connected to any type of resistor or anything. Still curious how it ran for 2.5 months lol
@stevenconrad3734
@stevenconrad3734 2 ай бұрын
@@masonsteinert4344I’m wondering the same thing but also why you need to even do that as long as I do it the right way like him and crimp everything good why wouldn’t it work?
@austincosta912
@austincosta912 2 жыл бұрын
Would this be the same thing for a 1989 c4 corvette im tryign tif igure out why it randomly wont start for alittle then will fire right up
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 жыл бұрын
that year should have s VATS system yes. look on the vette pages to see the process/guide.
@rosch1964
@rosch1964 2 жыл бұрын
nice & easy... THK
@barneywarwick9804
@barneywarwick9804 Жыл бұрын
What is the number 6 fuse under the steering wheel what's it go for
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
Google a fuse panel diagram for your year of car. there's also a convence center fuse box by the radio.
@kennybrown5386
@kennybrown5386 Жыл бұрын
Same procedure for 2005 cts
@sirquentinrussell9875
@sirquentinrussell9875 Жыл бұрын
Can this work for a 4th gen camero
@alexbellotti8423
@alexbellotti8423 11 ай бұрын
It will. Just did the same to a 2000 firebird. Same exact white wires with the orange cover, same connector.
@Lowkeyy407
@Lowkeyy407 Жыл бұрын
Does this only work with the original ignition switch/cylinder?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
the vats is just 2 wires. so as long as the VATs module sees the correct resistance, it doesn't care what ignition you have.
@Lowkeyy407
@Lowkeyy407 Жыл бұрын
Okay, I just replaced the ignition switch and it still would start due to the VATS. I believe this will work. Thanks for the awesome video
@livingnightmare3878
@livingnightmare3878 9 ай бұрын
Mine has already been bypassed by the previous owner my relative borrowed my car and hit something when they got back the car died and wont even crank anymore idk how to fix it the previous owner bypassed the vats system using the spare key chip as the resistor while the main key still has its chip idk how to fix 😢😢😢
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 9 ай бұрын
probe the key and match the resistor.
@Lazcano9
@Lazcano9 10 ай бұрын
What if my key is reading out at .68 most of the time is that normal or am I doing it wrong
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 10 ай бұрын
probably a bad meter
@elderlyBerry
@elderlyBerry 2 жыл бұрын
A have a vats key#5 and it won't start my vehicle, if I do I bypass like in this video will the vats key#5 start my car?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 жыл бұрын
if you bypass the Vats, the key will work regardless.
@elderlyBerry
@elderlyBerry 2 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy even on a 1998 Chevrolet monte carlo LS?
@oldbiker9739
@oldbiker9739 Жыл бұрын
sweet
@user-cx5xo3lz3t
@user-cx5xo3lz3t Жыл бұрын
All you guys forget to mention which resistor is the ideal one.. there's 2w, 1w, 1/2w 1/4 w ...
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
every car has a different reading, there isn't 1 size fits all.
@dannywhite7147
@dannywhite7147 6 ай бұрын
I place the meter on my key but no number shows on meter. Whatsup?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 6 ай бұрын
is your multimeter set to a low enough range?
@trevorriley7609
@trevorriley7609 5 ай бұрын
Will this system mods work when deleting the ebcm/abs system
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 5 ай бұрын
depends no the car. my 1992 Camaro had a separate VATS module. But I think later cars have the VATs inside the ECU that has to be deleted with software.
@pacolicious
@pacolicious 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have that on my car?
@mikeclark8370
@mikeclark8370 2 жыл бұрын
optional on 88s, standard option on 89+, at least for firebirds. On mine, I removed the module completely and bypassed the starter lockout.
@pacolicious
@pacolicious 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeclark8370 aaah thanks, I have 85 so I don't have the system
@isaacgreen1599
@isaacgreen1599 2 жыл бұрын
Hey how are you doing bro what if my key doesn’t have a chip does it already have a bypass on it ?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 жыл бұрын
earlier GM cars don't have a VATS system.
@davidpereyra4399
@davidpereyra4399 6 ай бұрын
does the key fob work even after bypassing ?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 6 ай бұрын
no idea. I don't own a car with a Key fob ha ha.
@lolguppyo
@lolguppyo Жыл бұрын
im about to do this on my corvette
@stompinmcallister1312
@stompinmcallister1312 2 жыл бұрын
Or just pop out in the key and use for a quick not east fix but can be done if you don't want to wait on resistors.
@moosehand8721
@moosehand8721 Жыл бұрын
You can grind regular non chip gm keys now much cheaper.
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
cheaper than a $5 bag of resistors?
@moosehand8721
@moosehand8721 Жыл бұрын
@3rd Gen Guy I'm saying after you convert it with the resistors you can use any blank to grind copies of the key after that, no more chip key replacement.
@nicholaskoenig3106
@nicholaskoenig3106 Жыл бұрын
Badass
@greddmyles3677
@greddmyles3677 11 ай бұрын
Really didn't have to cut the wire, could've just unplugged it lol. After you cut it you still took the plug end out
@joshup1275
@joshup1275 2 жыл бұрын
I bypassed my like this but now a year later I have the security light coming on again why
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 жыл бұрын
My security light sometimes came on even when the Car ran with a functioning VATS. no idea why, 80s GM wasn't too smart ha ha
@joshup1275
@joshup1275 2 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy but my car won't start
@jesusangelpenaloza2423
@jesusangelpenaloza2423 Жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy hello your video really help me, but I’m concerned that my SECURITY light comes on sometimes (but my Camaro always starts). Do i need to do something more ? I don’t want to be in a situation where it wont start again… Thanks.
@tresiii20011
@tresiii20011 2 жыл бұрын
So it's not my starter getting hot? It's the VATS?
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 жыл бұрын
depends, It could be VATS or a number of other things. typically VATS kills the starter and nothing happens when you turn the key.
@tresiii20011
@tresiii20011 2 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy before buying a new starter, generally when the car was hot, meaning temperature of the day would be in the 100's and driving around, I would have to wait until the car cooled down to start the car, then started noticing it wouldn't start in the morning or cold days, installed a new starter, battery and alternator both good, and would start on first try 1 out 3 tries. History on the car, 1992 B4C 1LE, bought back in 2014 with 89k miles, currently around 125k. I do have a Ravelco Anti-Theft system and car alarm on it. I do have both keys, but the back up key, the key I do not use, tends to perform better than my daily key.
@willstan3959
@willstan3959 2 жыл бұрын
I am about to try this on my 1995 eldorado
@r.joseph8911
@r.joseph8911 2 жыл бұрын
Wth is this? I am doing a SWAP. I don’t have a frickin’ KEY or harness under my dash… it’s a damn swap! HOW is this helpful??!!
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 2 жыл бұрын
if you are doing a swap you can just remove the VATs system. this video was for guys with stock ish cars
@musketballmatt6773
@musketballmatt6773 Жыл бұрын
The vats system is eliminated after an LS swap?
@ChefofWar33
@ChefofWar33 Жыл бұрын
@@musketballmatt6773 Should be. No way it will be easy to get stock ECM to work with an LS. Its totally fucking different.
@gomerpyle1886
@gomerpyle1886 Жыл бұрын
All you did was bypass the vats key not the vats system.
@damonbaggs3296
@damonbaggs3296 8 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking... He replaced the key with a single resistor. Clearly the "system" is functioning properly. So... not sure how this would bypass the system.
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