Too many people try to bypass this in the most difficult way possible. Thank you for showing people how to do it the easy and cheap way. This is exactly what I'll be doing when I have this issue.
@quantumq972510 ай бұрын
Me to
@airdromeaccount79222 жыл бұрын
To anyone who has done this VATS bypass already and your car suddenly randomly wont start, check the fuses in the fuse box below the steering wheel. You need to use a multimeter because visually inspecting a fuse doesnt always work. I did the VATS bypass and one day my car just did not want to start. I used a multimeter on every single fuse till I found one that was not reading, ( the # 6 fuse was the culprit!) so I popped it out, replaced it and the car started right up. I hope this helps anyone out there who is frustrated with a "No start" condition, as I was. Dont give up!
@deadlead03 Жыл бұрын
what was the fuse number 6 for?
@danielramos5405 ай бұрын
I’ve been frustrated I’m about to try it on my 92 z28
@viralcloud22313 ай бұрын
Used every single one of those fuses on my 05 blazer and didn't work😢😢😢
@airdromeaccount79223 ай бұрын
@@viralcloud2231 are you experiencing a no-start currently? your Blazer is an entirely different engine than what is represented in this video. Not sure if the VATS bypass is the same for your Blazer. Check your coil.
@viralcloud22313 ай бұрын
Ok I will👍
@budsodalsky3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, all I can say, is you are a great youtuber, you saved my rs - speedo fixing, key safety bypass, etc etc PLEASE keep the original type car content ! I could not have kept my RS all orig without you! Seriously! Your knowledge is very valuable!
@ar41555 Жыл бұрын
Hey I'm having the same problem with my 96 Impala. Did the false key ignition signal go away on your your dashboard after you by passed it?
@hannahmontierth46096 ай бұрын
Sir, you don’t know how much this helped me I own a 1998 Cadillac El Dorado and all of a sudden my car started saying starter disabled remove key and I was told it’s my VA system that it doesn’t recognize it. I have the spare key that I have and when I brought the car sir, you help me out so much. I am now able to drive my car, I just have to get this done. I’ve been looking all over. KZbin your video was the one that explained it the best and actually showed how to do it.
@kendrickarchibald6782 жыл бұрын
If you still have your original key like me, all you have to do is solder the wires to the actual key. The key has the resistor built in so I just connected the wires to both sides of the little chip. If u can’t solder hot glue it or super glue it then I put a new lock cylinder in with new key and works every time lol. I couldn’t find any resistors at a store near me and could wait for them to ship so this worked perfect for me.
@papergatorzfedducca7998 Жыл бұрын
New subscriber🔥🔥🔥 You’re the first person to actually show the process. Thanks!!
@Don.keybals2 жыл бұрын
Man that is way easier than I thought, thanks
@appalachiansheds28982 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being so informative unlike some of the others
@chris1le3 жыл бұрын
I've found that cooling down the key helped me out when the VATS system reared its ugly head. Used to carry a can of compressed air and held it upside down to spray key. Eventually found a bypass piece on E-bay that was plug and play. No cutting of wires.
@thedarklordchinchin48732 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the product? I need one now
@ClickClan100 Жыл бұрын
Don't leave us hanging bro. Send the link
@chris1le Жыл бұрын
Its been years since I did it. I just did a quick search and this seller on eBay has the closest looking kit to what I used. Was a lot cheaper back then. isimotorsports
@youngbucksoldgoats10 ай бұрын
Can you just buy a new key with the same ohms and have it cut ? Will that work without having to do the bypass ?
@3rdGenGuy10 ай бұрын
you can, it's just way more expensive than a $5 pack of resistors. the VATS wire can also break inside the tumbler, in that case a new key wouldn't work.
@schadmoxey78483 жыл бұрын
I bypassed mine in a much easier way. The only thing the vats does is allow 12v to go from the neutral safety switch to the starter by opening a relay that is near the fuse panel. Just pull the relay and jump the 2 heavier gauge wires. Then the vats has no control over the starting.
@mylesherschberger95312 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank you!
@sovereignentity49242 жыл бұрын
What two heavy gauge wires do I jump...? (Once I remove that solenoid )
@schadmoxey78482 жыл бұрын
@@sovereignentity4924 when you look at the connector it will have 4 wires, 2 smaller ga and 2 larger. Just install the jumper between the larger 2.
@sovereignentity49242 жыл бұрын
@@schadmoxey7848 So removing solenoid permanently , and jumping the two heavier gauge wires , and this alone will always bypass system and start car..? I have an 2005 Chevy Impala and will pray it works..!
@sovereignentity49242 жыл бұрын
@@schadmoxey7848 Thank you either way ... 🙏
@rubenperez11262 жыл бұрын
You are the man !!!! Thank u my 1996 chevy carprice is doing the same goona do it I'll let know
@salehprohim98123 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy watching your educational video . Thank you!
@willchaba67472 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful!
@The1972Cutlass2 жыл бұрын
hey I been using a regular gm key for my third gen Camaro could I use the one with the black rubber on the end instead just want to make sure it doesn't affect the car in anyway if I use it
@brandonc.83563 жыл бұрын
Glad my third gen didn't come with VATS so I don't have to worry about this.
@johndelvisco45282 ай бұрын
88 and up
@eurocarpleurocarpl20572 жыл бұрын
What was the resistor power you used? I have 91 zr1 abd wants to do the same
@3rdGenGuy2 жыл бұрын
you have to measure the key and see. every car has a different resistance.
@Lazcano9 Жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy my key read out .68 when I put my reader at 20k
@simsneon2 Жыл бұрын
You should’ve soldered this in But maybe you didn’t have a soldering iron available thank you for still showing us
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
Crimps are superior to solder. I build aircraft for a living & there's almost solder in aircraft wiring
@redcamaro5812 жыл бұрын
Vats not only shut the starter it shuts the injection and fuel pump
@hogg1media6272 жыл бұрын
bro, the way you explained this and showed, a dog can do it! thank you
@BrianPriceSr. Жыл бұрын
What im trying to find out how to bypass the whole vats system completely i have a 96 rivieracan anyone tell me how to bypass the whole system cause i didnt get a key and the lock switch was drilled out,does it shut the injecters off or just the fuel pump and starter?
@alishaheer369323 күн бұрын
Ty soo much good job
@YT-User10132 жыл бұрын
I agree with the other comment that this is the easiest way to do it rather than taking your dash apart as in other videos.
@HerecomestheCalavera2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to do this in a 1993 Buick Lesabre. I'm waiting on the resistors to arrive. I've looked under the dash and found the orange wire but mine doesn't have a plug of any kind. So do I do it basically the same way you did? Cut the orange wire and wire the resistor to the left side? Thanks.
@1980sSinaloense2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@benjaminrn96333 жыл бұрын
Excelente forma de sacarte de un apuro ,pero ya sabiendo el valor de resistencia es mejor comprar la llave original
@1980sSinaloense2 жыл бұрын
Es mejor asi plebe yo tengo de estos camaros y poco a poco se les acaba el resistor a las llaves y luego tienes que pagar pa una llave nueve que te sale como $150+. De esta manera esta cabron que se quede el carro
@leonbates70562 ай бұрын
Tried this, still no start. Did you get a error on the dashboard initially? Shop informed me that the OBD1 reader showed it was the VATS.
@3rdGenGuy2 ай бұрын
Usually the VATs just disables the car when it goes. a VATS error message could be a few things, like the key resistor, the VATS box under the dash for example.
@Mike-h7e6y6 күн бұрын
I don't have a chipped key how can I find out my truck resistance. Please help
@3rdGenGuy4 күн бұрын
well, depending on the year, you usually only have 10 choices. trial and error 10 times.
@Mike-h7e6y4 күн бұрын
@3rdGenGuy right and that's what I was trying to avoid thanks for responding
@austincosta9122 жыл бұрын
Would this be the same thing for a 1989 c4 corvette im tryign tif igure out why it randomly wont start for alittle then will fire right up
@3rdGenGuy2 жыл бұрын
that year should have s VATS system yes. look on the vette pages to see the process/guide.
@guillermocarrillo32535 ай бұрын
thankyou for the information
@dr.anibalbogos6651 Жыл бұрын
I have a Buick Lesabre and I don't have the ignition key. How can I know the value of the resistor to do the bypass?
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
in the video it shows how to use a multimeter to check that.
@nastynate84923 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a 91 camaro with the vats problem. I put a different ignition in it with a key that has a resistor instead of the ignition with a flat key. My question is should I be using the multimeter on the plug opposite of the orange wire instead of the key to get a resistor reading?
@3rdGenGuy3 жыл бұрын
not sure what you mean.
@masonsteinert43443 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy I'm struggling with a similar issue. I bought a 94. It ran pretty well considering. Now I have the vats issue. The car doesn't have the original key so I don't know how to get a resistance reading for the care. Any idea on how to go about it? The ignition wire was already cut when I dropped the kickboard but it wasn't connected to any type of resistor or anything. Still curious how it ran for 2.5 months lol
@stevenconrad37347 ай бұрын
@@masonsteinert4344I’m wondering the same thing but also why you need to even do that as long as I do it the right way like him and crimp everything good why wouldn’t it work?
@RecruiterChronicles10 ай бұрын
This may be a stupid question. But I’m look at some of these and I don’t know which ones are the right ones. 1/4w 1/2w 1W and 2W. Which do I need? I have a 94 corvette
@3rdGenGuy10 ай бұрын
use a multimeter and probe your key. if you don't have a key to probe, you can just guess. only 10 different Vats resistors so you just have to test all 10.
@Lowkeyy407 Жыл бұрын
Does this only work with the original ignition switch/cylinder?
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
the vats is just 2 wires. so as long as the VATs module sees the correct resistance, it doesn't care what ignition you have.
@Lowkeyy407 Жыл бұрын
Okay, I just replaced the ignition switch and it still would start due to the VATS. I believe this will work. Thanks for the awesome video
@heroknaderi Жыл бұрын
Cool Thanks
@kennydemartini21693 жыл бұрын
While you're at it, pull the left kick panel off and bypass the starter relay also. You'll thank me later.
@budsodalsky3 жыл бұрын
Go speed racer, Go speed racer, Go speed racer Goooo!
@3rdGenGuy3 жыл бұрын
Since my LS swap is nearing, I didn't want to re-wire anything only to gut it in a month.
@budsodalsky3 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy Im really dissapointed that you are LS swapping that car.
@3rdGenGuy3 жыл бұрын
@@budsodalsky i'm so sad to see that 122 horsepower of a 305 powerhouse go.
@budsodalsky3 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy Yeah, because horsepower is all that matters! And bastardizing a beautiful original and replacing it with thousands of hacks is VERY different from every body else!👍
@sirquentinrussell9875 Жыл бұрын
Can this work for a 4th gen camero
@alexbellotti8423 Жыл бұрын
It will. Just did the same to a 2000 firebird. Same exact white wires with the orange cover, same connector.
@barneywarwick9804 Жыл бұрын
What is the number 6 fuse under the steering wheel what's it go for
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
Google a fuse panel diagram for your year of car. there's also a convence center fuse box by the radio.
@donaldbattlejr8 ай бұрын
What do you do to bypass the entire module? Can you make a way that requires no chip or resistor? What if the VATS module is bad and doesn’t work?
@3rdGenGuy8 ай бұрын
there are full bypass write ups on forums.
@austincosta9122 жыл бұрын
As if my car wont read my key or locks me out for alittle then works
@thatfishingdude9356 Жыл бұрын
My 97 le Sabre does that same thing
@jameswoosley91 Жыл бұрын
Jump the ground to the ignition to the last starter relay behind the glove box!!!!!!!
@elderlyBerry2 жыл бұрын
A have a vats key#5 and it won't start my vehicle, if I do I bypass like in this video will the vats key#5 start my car?
@3rdGenGuy2 жыл бұрын
if you bypass the Vats, the key will work regardless.
@elderlyBerry2 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy even on a 1998 Chevrolet monte carlo LS?
@rosch19643 жыл бұрын
nice & easy... THK
@davidpereyra439911 ай бұрын
does the key fob work even after bypassing ?
@3rdGenGuy11 ай бұрын
no idea. I don't own a car with a Key fob ha ha.
@Lazcano9 Жыл бұрын
What if my key is reading out at .68 most of the time is that normal or am I doing it wrong
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
probably a bad meter
@respectmyhxmings7222Ай бұрын
What would normally happen if you didn’t have the right key would it crank with no start?
@3rdGenGuyАй бұрын
no crank, no fuel pump prime.
@respectmyhxmings7222Ай бұрын
@ ok yeah mine does the opposite
@3rdGenGuyАй бұрын
VATS kills the starter and fuel pump. might be starter and Injectors I forget.
@respectmyhxmings7222Ай бұрын
@ yeah no injectors are fine starter is fine fuel pump is fine but I have no spark
@respectmyhxmings7222Ай бұрын
@ there’s no electricity to the distributer or coil pack so I can’t figure it out
@trevorriley760910 ай бұрын
Will this system mods work when deleting the ebcm/abs system
@3rdGenGuy10 ай бұрын
depends no the car. my 1992 Camaro had a separate VATS module. But I think later cars have the VATs inside the ECU that has to be deleted with software.
@isaacgreen15992 жыл бұрын
Hey how are you doing bro what if my key doesn’t have a chip does it already have a bypass on it ?
@3rdGenGuy2 жыл бұрын
earlier GM cars don't have a VATS system.
@kennybrown5386 Жыл бұрын
Same procedure for 2005 cts
@SofiaPerez-qz4zo6 ай бұрын
Will this work on a 1997 caddy Deville ? Not sure of the spelling, but you know..
@3rdGenGuy6 ай бұрын
as long has it has the Key with the VATS chip in it.
@livingnightmare3878 Жыл бұрын
Mine has already been bypassed by the previous owner my relative borrowed my car and hit something when they got back the car died and wont even crank anymore idk how to fix it the previous owner bypassed the vats system using the spare key chip as the resistor while the main key still has its chip idk how to fix 😢😢😢
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
probe the key and match the resistor.
@cobygaurin45965 ай бұрын
If I lost the chip from my key do I have to just try each resistor?
@3rdGenGuy5 ай бұрын
yep, only 10 options so not hard.
@stompinmcallister13122 жыл бұрын
Or just pop out in the key and use for a quick not east fix but can be done if you don't want to wait on resistors.
@budsodalsky3 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew / saw this BEFORE exxon charged me $1,000
@AlexContreras-t3v Жыл бұрын
All you guys forget to mention which resistor is the ideal one.. there's 2w, 1w, 1/2w 1/4 w ...
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
every car has a different reading, there isn't 1 size fits all.
@dannywhite714711 ай бұрын
I place the meter on my key but no number shows on meter. Whatsup?
@3rdGenGuy11 ай бұрын
is your multimeter set to a low enough range?
@moosehand8721 Жыл бұрын
You can grind regular non chip gm keys now much cheaper.
@3rdGenGuy Жыл бұрын
cheaper than a $5 bag of resistors?
@moosehand8721 Жыл бұрын
@3rd Gen Guy I'm saying after you convert it with the resistors you can use any blank to grind copies of the key after that, no more chip key replacement.
@nicholaskoenig3106 Жыл бұрын
Badass
@joshup12752 жыл бұрын
I bypassed my like this but now a year later I have the security light coming on again why
@3rdGenGuy2 жыл бұрын
My security light sometimes came on even when the Car ran with a functioning VATS. no idea why, 80s GM wasn't too smart ha ha
@joshup12752 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy but my car won't start
@jesusangelpenaloza24232 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy hello your video really help me, but I’m concerned that my SECURITY light comes on sometimes (but my Camaro always starts). Do i need to do something more ? I don’t want to be in a situation where it wont start again… Thanks.
@oldbiker9739 Жыл бұрын
sweet
@lolguppyo Жыл бұрын
im about to do this on my corvette
@danielnewbrough9203 ай бұрын
What if the key chip is gone?
@3rdGenGuy3 ай бұрын
you have 10 resistors to guess with. has to be 1 of the 10. trial and error
@tresiii200112 жыл бұрын
So it's not my starter getting hot? It's the VATS?
@3rdGenGuy2 жыл бұрын
depends, It could be VATS or a number of other things. typically VATS kills the starter and nothing happens when you turn the key.
@tresiii200112 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy before buying a new starter, generally when the car was hot, meaning temperature of the day would be in the 100's and driving around, I would have to wait until the car cooled down to start the car, then started noticing it wouldn't start in the morning or cold days, installed a new starter, battery and alternator both good, and would start on first try 1 out 3 tries. History on the car, 1992 B4C 1LE, bought back in 2014 with 89k miles, currently around 125k. I do have a Ravelco Anti-Theft system and car alarm on it. I do have both keys, but the back up key, the key I do not use, tends to perform better than my daily key.
@pacolicious3 жыл бұрын
I don't have that on my car?
@mikeclark83703 жыл бұрын
optional on 88s, standard option on 89+, at least for firebirds. On mine, I removed the module completely and bypassed the starter lockout.
@pacolicious3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeclark8370 aaah thanks, I have 85 so I don't have the system
@greddmyles3677 Жыл бұрын
Really didn't have to cut the wire, could've just unplugged it lol. After you cut it you still took the plug end out
@willstan39592 жыл бұрын
I am about to try this on my 1995 eldorado
@r.joseph89112 жыл бұрын
Wth is this? I am doing a SWAP. I don’t have a frickin’ KEY or harness under my dash… it’s a damn swap! HOW is this helpful??!!
@3rdGenGuy2 жыл бұрын
if you are doing a swap you can just remove the VATs system. this video was for guys with stock ish cars
@musketballmatt67732 жыл бұрын
The vats system is eliminated after an LS swap?
@ChefofWar332 жыл бұрын
@@musketballmatt6773 Should be. No way it will be easy to get stock ECM to work with an LS. Its totally fucking different.
@gomerpyle1886 Жыл бұрын
All you did was bypass the vats key not the vats system.
@damonbaggs3296 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking... He replaced the key with a single resistor. Clearly the "system" is functioning properly. So... not sure how this would bypass the system.