How To Catch Waves When Its Crowded | Surf Lesson

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thanks for tuning in peeps :) ❤️🙌🏽

[@brianbirc]

I will just wear a rash guard with #1 on it surfing with you. TY

[@oscar17891]

Hey Kale, great vid! I love how you always point out what surf is for: having fun. Most surfers seem to ignore this simple fact and have turned the thing into a competitive stressful negative environment. Which is the opposite of cool

[@KalesBroccoli]

LAME! haha - we all out there to get into flow and take home the feeling :)

[@malabel16]

Omgg you're so right!

[@oscar17891]

@@malabel16 I know!! thanks Marie

[@KalesBroccoli]

@@oscar17891 hahahahah okay.

[@billnye8143]

I cant wait to surf ima buy a knife just in case anybody wanna go local on me lol I look forward to it 😎 I aint gonna try to be a d but if you wanna trip over water fine I can 2

[@SurfersofBali]

Stoked to do this little collab with you mate 👍

[@KalesBroccoli]

yew yeah boys! !

[@KalesBroccoli]

looking forward to next time too!

[@belgiandip8682]

LOVE your work, Kale! Content, delivery, and as a filmmaker. Daaaang. I moved to San Diego this past summer. I watched dozens of videos for beginners -- hours and hours. I had a feeling I was pissing peeps off lately but no idea why. Finally someone told me "dude, you can't cut people off!" I apologized and asked him a couple times what I did wrong. He appreciated me asking and gave a super brief comment about the priority. Enough for me to Google the crap out of the topic this weekend and watch more videos! It was hard to watch, like "yup, I do that, I do that, check, check, check." I feel horrible but never meant to do harm. I tried to look around as best I could and be respectful, but without knowing of any "order", being new and hyperfocused on not dying but trying to apply so many things in a fraction of a second and the seconds leading up to that moment... I snaked a lot of peeps but I'm not unethical because I really tried! I was clueless. I plan on giving other noobs a tip to watch surfing etiquette videos when that time comes. Just when I see someone unknowingly being "that guy". It really sucked not knowing and just thinking others were jerks when I've been the jerks. My apologies to all! Thx for all the great material, and love your style and skills in the water, on camera, and post production.

[@tylergrayford8333]

SUPers and retired loggers automatically consider themselves exempt to all these rules.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Tyler Grayford lol not all of them

[@wixnarara]

True story, I am a chill guy in the water but when SUPers decide to always grab the "first priority" I get tempted to snake them.

[@KalesBroccoli]

@@wixnarara you should. If it's very blatant, i drop in (if it's safe to do so) and explain to them the rules.

[@daveroche689]

Wow do you also hate coloured surfers or women surfers? Some people always think it's their turn and blame others for their frustration. Advice: Talk to others in the line up and add a dimension to your surfing.

[@crazyjay531]

​@@daveroche689 How on earth did you come to the conclusion that he might hate coloured or women surfers based off of what he said? It's not that deep man, guy was just making a joke. Advice: Quit acting like the chosen one in comment sections and save yourself some embarrassment, freak.

[@carcarfer6400]

Explain this to Medina

[@boltup5566]

Cross out medina and write "brazzos".

[@floridaboy9641]

CA FE he’s the reason goofy footers are serial killers

[@KalesBroccoli]

I giggled out loud at this.

[@nickwells4541]

Haha so good

[@malex_xander]

Ha ha ha . He said he went left handed ... yep... sure ... ha ha

[@nicelydone8017]

My beach is usually crowded to the point of the order breaking down. In this case the drop in rule is the only etiquette followed. It’s tough because the wave hogs take over, and one has to be quick and smart about wave selection. I usually have to call off multiple people when I catch a wave, just to let them know I’m there. Thanks for sharing your advice about keeping the vibe fun and safe!

[@KalesBroccoli]

yeh it can be tricky - I just try to avoid that situation but sometimes no choice

[@lonememe9674]

As a new, and older, surfer this is what freaks me out. I learned in Mexico and everyone was pretty chill even when it got a little crowded, but I wasn't a fan of the chaos at all. I avoid resort riding on my snowboard for this reason, and it seems like it's even worse in the water because there are sharp fins and hard things that'll hurt you with seemingly less control. I'm hoping to head out to Cali or Florida to learn some more but the idea of navigating crowded lineups is so intimidating as a newb. I want to stay out of people's way while I progress, but I can't just miss every wave because I'm trying to be respectful. Feels like a catch-22 and I'll just have to be ready for someone being upset with me about something.

[@xxrevenge423]

Yea I just started surfing in Cali honestly some people are dicks like I’ll catch a wave Iwhere I’m in the perfect spot to get it don’t have to move but someone will swim around me to get it sooner and say the wave was there’s and I shouldnt have took it

[@zyxbenny]

Your series is thorough and excellent. Here on the east coast of the US, I can't say that I've ever witnessed this theoretical priority line concept when it's firing. Usually the alphas paddle back out to their ideal spot and get ready to go again, including what you call snaking. Some "might" wait for one or two to have a go as their courtesy, but that's about it. Other than that, every man for himself for good wave position.

[@KalesBroccoli]

locals and good surfers might get a little more priority sometimes - numerous factors at play here.

[@markb7340]

Totally agree. Not a ton of snaking but there is no priority line. Feast or famine. DE/MD/NJ

[@falakoala4579]

Usually the take off out the back is more difficult. Steeper in front of rocks etc and no guy with experience that can takeoff there is going to wait in a 500m line of learner/intermediate surfers to possibly get a wave down the line on the softer take off. Iv surfed for 30 years and get told I'm snaking at my local, but it's always a guy with 5years experience that does not want to take off under the lip in front of rocks. Even though these days local or age isn't respected at some point 6000days of extra surfing experience allows you to just take. Sorry. Surfing's not the peace and love the mainstream media likes to make it out to be ☹️🤙🏽

[@tom-andrethomsen]

@@falakoala4579 It should be ✌ You are just the asshole that keeps the rest of us back 🙂

[@donh3590]

surfing is all about sharing waves and being stoked and loving everyone.

[@KalesBroccoli]

don h and taking that feeling home with you :)

[@thelocomocosurfer5577]

How to rip: take turns in the line up my surf spot: its every one for them selves

[@mjm5791]

@kalesbroccoli Good job on your sunscreen in this video. I see you upped your game. What do we do about surfer #4? I remember back in our PB days you recommended surf fights in this situation? Please advise.

[@MicahsSurfVideos]

Great explanation! I wish this was the rule for every lineup. Everyone would be getting their fair amounts of wave. Going to go surf in a hour, and I'm gonna practice this etiquette. I hope the best!

[@KalesBroccoli]

yew!

[@9soccerplayr]

as a serial killer myself i can confirm i am goofy footed

[@jasonrosas1295]

I am as well it's harder being goofy footed but I can never say that because goofy is all I got lol

[@SB-fu4ib]

This is such a great vid. Really good timing for me. I'm working towards intermediate and can pull maneuvres in 2-3 ft surf but when it gets bigger and more crowded I struggle. I recently surfed a point break that was split into 2 groups of about 6 on the main peak then 4 on the inside including me. The most difficult bit to navigate was staying out of the way when a set came in and to do it successfully it meant sitting only slightly on the shoulder then keeping an eye on the sets and bailing to the shoulder and out when a set came in (to catch a wave I had to cut back into the inside peak). On one wave I ended up with a surfer taking off in front of me and did what I was told early on which is paddle to the whitewater but the shape of the waves meant that I did not quite make it. Everyone was fine and friendly about it but another surfer said just paddle towards the shoulder even if you might end up very close to the line of where the surfer taking off would end up surfing along the face.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Yeah it has to be judged as per the situation! Sometimes we all make the wrong call - it's sometimes difficult to read what a surfer is gong to do!

[@jimkang2006]

Great video! I wish every surfer of all levels should watch this to learn or remind themselves of this unspoken rule when out in the water. Thanks again!

[@AntonyWelch]

NIce advice Kales! I wish your advice would be heeded at our local. Crowds have erupted in last couple years and the best wave take off will have 20+ by 7am when there's swell. The shame is, its the experienced guys completely ignoring everything you say. So, you get good surfers with pumped up, arrogant attitudes, snaking and dropping in on anyone they please. And they come in groups, so you can't say anything or you'll get a verbal stoush started in no time. Its bollux that's takes away from the whole principle of surfing. A real shame ruining it for many.

[@KalesBroccoli]

it's an interesting sport with lots of grey area and unique interpretation of etiquette haha

[@wixnarara]

The guys that never respect this order are the Stand Up Paddlers.

[@KalesBroccoli]

lol not always sometimes

[@danielskarsten6194]

This is soo accurate 😂😂

[@richwheeler2854]

Also long boarders and surfers sponsored by Costco

[@JoaoPCavalcanti]

Nice collab! And very good video! You can also talk about where to sit on the line up. So many beginners sit just behind or in front of the surfers who are waiting out the back. I usually surf at Bondi and it's mayhem! Beginners, thirsty locals, snakes, complete chaos!

[@KalesBroccoli]

lol Bondi!

[@cedricschmidt8633]

Lol can you even surf in bondi?

[@JoaoPCavalcanti]

@@cedricschmidt8633 yes (if you can stay away from the flags, south of the tower - when you have a fiberglass board, avoid all the other 60 surfers in the same peak and if the banks actually produce - easy)!

[@Jim-fe2xz]

Wish that worked everywhere but those "less than perfect" waves are pretty fun too!

[@KalesBroccoli]

yep

[@MrRb9325]

Is it ok to snake someone if they let like 5 waves go by and are almost waisting time in the lineup? Like if I snaked them, the person saw that I was now sitting at the peak, and that person did not move back over, would it be ok to take the wave since I would now be closer to the peak.

[@KalesBroccoli]

they would always have pick of the wave that they wanted. Doesn't mean they wont let heaps of wave go which you can catch yourself

[@MrRb9325]

@@KalesBroccoli thanks for the reply love the videos

[@jksinorbit]

Tip no 2. If someone snakes you, paddle over to them, pull them under the water and hold them there until they stop moving. Everyone will respect you after that.

[@milky2533]

Not cool bro. You shouldn't murder people because it's not nice

[@Patrickj31408]

@@milky2533 but he’s right

[@tomcuddy]

when people drop in on me i yell Doubles! :)

[@kinetic1812]

tom cuddy ?

[@KalesBroccoli]

help

[@tylergrayford8333]

respect

[@storm1315]

I drop in on People an yell PARTY WAVE!

[@oscar17891]

@@storm1315 hahahah I do that when I drop in unintentionally! ^__^

[@kylemcmahon6100]

Thank you for making this video. I surf mostly beach breaks and being a beginner I don’t want to get in the way of more advanced surfers. I find it hard on a beach break because there are multiple takeoff zones.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Kyle Mcmahon keep at it :)

[@davo85iz0]

I live/surf the Gulf Coast of FL, which is almost all beachbreak . Generally, the one closest to the peak and paddling first has priority. Because our peaks are so shifty, you may be out of position on the first wave and in position on the next. Two guys can be paddling for the same wave, but we usually let the one closer to the peak have the wave, assuming you're both planning on going the same direction. Just never paddle and drop in if someone is already coming down the line towards you

[@floydage1]

Awesome Video! Unfortunately, where I surf, there are hundreds of surfers #3 and #4 who always feel the need to ignore the rules of good surf etiquette and jump to the front of the line after every wave. Just another day in CA.

[@hoorayimhelping3978]

not nearly enough shots of beach babes to be a collab with SOB ;)

[@KalesBroccoli]

hahahaha

[@Kahawai68]

I used to love Bingin....too hectic nowadays. Still a nice place to stay though.

[@KalesBroccoli]

yeah me too.

[@philipdeere3390]

Very well explained , it helps a lot .thank you .

[@KalesBroccoli]

yew thanks brother! Got loads more coming

[@footkinetics]

Thanks for sharing... that was interesting insights... particularly when you’re in the thick of it on Sydney’s northern beaches 👍... more so off point breaks.

[@KalesBroccoli]

yew ! Thanks bro

[@mmchrisp]

Thank you for that - a super clear explanation of the rules and ‘clean’ approaches to getting waves. Can you do a follow up video on how to work the rules in your favour, especially on messier dual/triple peak days or simply when there are a lot of dickheads in the lineup, or locals who are using their ‘birthright’ to catch more than their share of waves? Basically, how do you get more waves while keeping the chance of a car park fight to a minimum (but not zero). Haha

[@KalesBroccoli]

haha. Yes, I will try to do some more - I will mostly be putting up tutorials on this channel now so jump over here :)

[@surfersoldierforchrist5928]

So much easier said than done!...great explanation though...it would be nice if they stuck to this in the competitive lineups like lower trestles or hb pier as example...I usually do the latter by waiting inside or outside i pick off more of the sort of lesser quality and less lengthy rides as you stated.

[@KalesBroccoli]

surfer soldier for Christ yeah always great in theory 🤙🏽

[@andrey.3562]

Thank you Kales. That's a really important video.

[@KalesBroccoli]

yeah thanks man. Kale.

[@markpeysha1975]

I've noticed that SUP paddlers line up further out. Same wave, but earlier than the traditional surfers' peak. Is that considered snaking?

[@KalesBroccoli]

yes if they don't wait their turn. They do have to sit out further to avoid hitting people which is understandable, but a SUP who doesn't wait their turn is also a serial killer. Or may be a victim of one soon.

[@andrew1977au]

This works well for me and where I go surfing

[@KalesBroccoli]

yup

[@Andrew-tl9gk]

Would have liked to see how the theory applies in the real life footage

[@KalesBroccoli]

it's a little difficult to sit there and film a line up waiting for those specific scenarios to happen - unfortunately dont have the time to do this

[@Dylan.p640]

I love both of your vids

[@emick3326]

Yeah things aren't really like this at all in socal it seems like the general idea is that whoever's on their feet first gets the wave anyone else is snaking. Occasionally people have the courtesy to let you paddle for a wave uncontested but it's pretty damn rare

[@KalesBroccoli]

sometimes our perception is worse than the reality of what's going on

[@englandjake]

Wish people followed these rules at Lanikea in Oahu!

[@bradonchristian6017]

"If you're goofy footer you're probably a serial killer." Never heard a more true statement 👍

[@jimmccarley9609]

Great vid Kales, this is something we all have to deal with.

[@KalesBroccoli]

yew!

[@Raymondo4444]

3:19 TRIGGERED! Goof about to go on a massive killing spree of waves next time I see them.

[@emmawouterson5619]

Woah this explanation video cleared things out big time🙈 Super helpful, thanks a lot Kale! 🙏🏽🌅

[@ThatOtherGuy112.]

I find it kinda interesting that half a 8< surfers is considered crowded. You've clearly never been to Croyed England 😆

[@Stickboysurfer]

Depends on how many takeoff zones and the frequency of the waves there are at a given spot

[@KalesBroccoli]

Depends on the take off zone - Bingin is particularly tight but this day was actually pretty nice crowd wise. Still, same principles apply.

[@NathanHolden]

Even crowded croyde is calm though it’s a mile long plenty of opportunities

[@davwood2k]

A Summer Swell at Croyde is fucking crowded. I definitely counted more than 300 people in at one time and it’s usually on 2/3 main peaks

[@alexanderbeasant6908]

Where in Aus is that at 6 mins 30 secs, looks pure!

[@frankied9723]

No way, I've been following you since I started to surf (almost a year ago) and 4 days ago I was in Bingin. Are you still there??

[@KalesBroccoli]

nope :)

[@crispy2255]

I needed this before I surfed Rincon last weekend lol. Keep up the great vids

[@KalesBroccoli]

Chris Schneider lol yeh

[@whatislifebro]

Because I’m a goofy footer, I find that I’m not dropping in on anyone but I’m already on the wave, and then further on it people get on the wave(without knowing I’m on it) and start to go right which is straight into me. It’s annoying in crowded spots.

[@KalesBroccoli]

pretty rare this happens. Then you need to assess what the wave is doing - if its predominantly a right then you need to hop off, if it's predomnantly a left, then they need to hop off.

[@davidheath4770]

Go right when the waves are going right Goof ball 🤪

[@logantamarabian9286]

Hey mate, where's that spot at 7:00? It looks amazing. Shame surfing it's quite often a stressful environment, definitely to many DH out there :)

[@KalesBroccoli]

I dont share most of the locations in my videos - it's in Sydney though!

[@logantamarabian9286]

@@KalesBroccoli cheers Kales!!! Curl curl huh ? :)

[@danetyvoll797]

3:30 I guess I'm a serial killer because I'm goofy

[@asmeraldi2]

This was so helpful. Thanks!

[@KalesBroccoli]

thanks :)

[@samuelbettinelli3059]

Great vid. I surfed bingin in July, OMG!! There were more people out there then on Friday night at single fin

[@KalesBroccoli]

sam w yah it happens - sucks!!

[@evannramirez286]

What online work do we have today?

[@modiulelawson9790]

Do you have some advice for intermediate women? I surf in France, Portugal and sometimes Australia, and a lot of the time its pretty mucho out there, especially in France. I get out of the way and only catch the waves that are left or have been left from the better surfers. This make me sometimes frustrated because I do have right of way some times when I think, ok, I will join the line up and go for it, but the guys just go. Other times I see girls who say out loud, its the girls turn whine about it. I hate this also. Women are quite capable of catching waves and dont need extra help, but how can I hold my place. Of course im only intermediate and not as good as most of the guys out there. In Europe there are less women than in Australia. I try to surf 8 months of the year. Look forward to some advice.

[@Andrew-tl9gk]

I saw in France how girls got priority by men. And I also heard the locals are rude to everyone except for girls. So I think you are good?

[@Offshore52]

in Portugal I see mostly locals girls snaking, so it's not about the gender.

[@Stickboysurfer]

It's in your head. If you show you are capable of catching most waves you paddle for and are confident in your skills riding the face, guys will give you respect right away

[@oscar17891]

@@Stickboysurfer what if I'm not very good? would guys still show me respect?

[@jmiguel6302]

@@Offshore52 thats true dude agree 🤙😎

[@fj7483]

I have been at many beginner-breaks when learning to surf and i'm wondering: If there is a lineup of around 10 to 15 people and a current at the peak, is it considered snaking if the guy before you can't paddle against the current as good as yourself? Is it considered snaking if you 'overtake' the people infront of the you (preferably beginners) who repeatedly fail to paddle into a wave, thus aborting the wave BUT STILL claim back 'their' place in the lineup? Is it considered snaking if you 'overtake' beginners in the lineup with an instructor on their side that clearly have no intention to paddle closer to the top of the peak? Is it considered snaking if you overtake chit-chatting friends that clearly don't intend to paddle towards the peak in an efficient manner because they simply 'move together as a team' or 'have been here longer than you'. Is it considered being snaked if the local surfers always gets the first spots in line regardless of how long you have waited as a 'tourist' in the lineup? I got flamed for all those 'missteps' above when learning how to surf. Overall it certanly was a very negative experience learning to surf in such crowded areas. If i would have followed 'good etiquette' at all times, I am sure i would have never catched a single wave those days. From that I've learnt: If there is a surfbreak with more than 20 people lining up at peak, it's probably better to not paddle out at all and come back at another day or time of the day. Nothing good can come from overcrowded waves, regardless whether you intend to follow good etiquette or not.

[@swellswell385]

Staying chill out there 😎

[@KalesBroccoli]

yew

[@fdreloprern]

This is very helpful. Thanks!

[@KalesBroccoli]

thanks brother

[@levyscopal3585]

Aussie in Bali what a surprise 😄😄. Dude I hope you rode Echo and not the far west peaks further left in canggu with no etiquette whatsover.

[@KalesBroccoli]

I did and it's not too bad to be honest

[@coopermorrgan]

Great video man!

[@KalesBroccoli]

thanks bro

[@Khoario]

mate are you a philosophy major? loving the esoteric analogies and such throughout your videos. !

[@KalesBroccoli]

I just read lots of books 🤓

[@Pentonavalsolutions]

Muy bueno! Great tips! Saludos de ARG.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Jose Luis Chinchilla 🤙🏽🤙🏽

[@Saveme777]

Thank you, I thought snaking is when you change Position right before wave approaching, oops I could be snak😖

[@KalesBroccoli]

snaking is cutting the line.

[@greedolebowski]

Great topic today! I would love to hear more about paddling back out safely in a crowded line up when you don't complete the wave as optimally as you'd prefer - or if you totally blow it and end up right in everyone's way. How do you safely get back outside? Also - when is priority used? If I go for a wave and miss it, do I go to the back of the line up? And I get that this is all grey and there isn't a definite. I'd just appreciate more perspective on the topic. The visuals with the magnets and white board were also helpful. Thanks!

[@tencm738]

If you blow it completely like on a crowded reef break and end up right in front of everyone just have to either paddle straight up sideways and come back around as best as possible or if sets are coming just go straight up and either duck dive under oncoming surfers or just do your best to dodge and scramble around - it happens. Priority is used if you make a genuine attempt for the wave and miss it you have to go back to the back of the line up and wait again, if your in the spot and everyone knows it you gotta hold it, can turn and consider a wave but if you want it must show disinterest early so everyone knows you still have priority and others know early enough to get it if they want it. Hope this helped

[@tencm738]

** sorry if you DONT want it have to show disinterest

[@KalesBroccoli]

greedolebowski you paddle for a wave and miss it that’s your priority spent

[@arturoespinoza1645]

Buen trabajo !!! Ahí que decirle a los Brasileños que aprendan algo de esto !!!

[@KalesBroccoli]

si

[@jimmydabriou2482]

Thanks for the tips it was really helpful 👌🏼! I also see that you’ve got a bipolar twin from JR, I want to get one of those but I’m not sure if I should get the 5’10(32.3l) or the 5’11(34l). I’m a low intermediate,70kgs 5’10. I have a greedy beaver FireWire with 37.5l which is a lot of volume for me still but good and stable for small days! I just want something a bit more performance when the waves are good and I thought the bipolar would be a good choice 👍🏼. What do you reckon?

[@KalesBroccoli]

Jimmy Dabriou it’s a fun board! Get maybe 2 or 3 litres more volume than you normally need

[@karljakobsson2687]

Kales Broccoli noted the new JR as well, yeeow! How do you rate it compared to the wraptor?

[@jimmydabriou2482]

Cheers mate

[@henrikminassian8747]

Are you sure you're a surfer? You speak in full sentences with clear and easy to understand speech.

[@KalesBroccoli]

hahahaha 😂

[@chentata8413]

Love this palce

[@ivanjuz9747]

that wasnt really crowded. i surfed bingin a couple of times and there were like 40 people in the waters, lots of kooks, lots of brazilians. everybody dropping in on everybody. it was horrible. never returning to bali to surf.

[@KalesBroccoli]

yeah it's hectic - this morning wasn't too bad

[@charlieboi6981]

Are you coming to Canggu

[@KalesBroccoli]

Soul Sand already been :)

[@outring]

Went to watch some SOB Decided to go with the new HTR first Watching SOB anyway

[@KalesBroccoli]

Vasya Aksyonov 🤙🏽🤙🏽

[@Dylan.p640]

And im from bali but im in west Aus near jack robo

[@samcallahan3966]

goofy footers where u at

[@paulunderpressure4445]

Doesn’t really take into account for currents. Staying at the peak when it’s crowded and there’s a current throws off any sort of idea of a line, I think

[@KalesBroccoli]

currents only affect line ups in rare situations, explaining this at Snapper would be a bit different sure

[@goncalojeronimo1537]

I bet this guy is the nicest local in the lineup:)

[@KalesBroccoli]

I try to be but inevitably some people dontthink so

[@scoastg]

great in theory how bout being snaked by pro surfers happens lots just sayin

[@KalesBroccoli]

Matt law surfers with excellent ability often have excellent wave knowledge and line up positioning too - sometimes this can be misconstrued as snaking

[@user-qj6nx9ss7v]

@@KalesBroccoli Not so sure about that. I've surfed with many pros and amateurs alike. They backpaddle and force their way into position as if you're invisible. Then finally when it's your turn and your deeper they just burn you.

[@KalesBroccoli]

@@user-qj6nx9ss7v always going to be exceptions to the rule - it's an individual sport - some people suck!

[@rickmarr9634]

@@KalesBroccoli Tom Segura reference?? Lmao best customer service reference ever haha

[@jonnyzuma6884]

Pros are snakes pure and simple, with the worst selfish attitude in the water, yet somehow think it’s right and funny. Once you go pro, you’ve decided to surf for money, not for fun, and that makes it more important to get waves than it is to share the stoke. That being said, I cannot change it. I’d rather surf a smaller spot and enjoy myself.

[@kostasgoulas3625]

Very good video bro

[@pausabate9910]

That's exactly the kind of lesson that I was looking for! As usual! Thanks Kales! ;)

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thanks bro

[@pausabate9910]

@@KalesBroccoli Not at all dude

[@KalesBroccoli]

@@pausabate9910 yew! Got loads more coming on this channel too my man!

[@pausabate9910]

Cool man! I know that! :) Your channel is as good as this one, man! I follow both dude.

[@KalesBroccoli]

@@pausabate9910 :) :)

[@furlong337]

Nicely done! I’m curious, how would you approach a situation where you have two dozen North American east coast surfers with absolutely no knowledge or regard for etiquette mixed in with a few sups who completely troll a lineup and snake every good wave in a set. And by the way, us goofy footers are serial killers which adds a bit of an extra element to the scenario : )

[@KalesBroccoli]

Quantum Mechanic don’t surf there haha

[@brianbirc]

Yes better give the wave to goofy footers and not risk death !

[@willimnot6318]

Nice

[@jamesjameason8348]

Maybe that shit works in Australia mate, but here in Cali, we got 15 to 20 or more people in the water. Nobody has time to wait for mushy weak waves like we have out here. This ain’t the DMV… People have a short window and shit to do. Get a wave when you can. 4 surfers…. Yeah right!

[@rafaf1lm]

I really need this for California in the summer

[@skisunshine]

1-2-3-4 all go.....PARTY WAVE!!

[@KalesBroccoli]

lol no!

[@skisunshine]

@@KalesBroccoli lol that just happens a my home break, no rules, absolute carnage....alot of weekend warriors nice vid btw :)

[@KalesBroccoli]

@@skisunshine cheers brother - got loads more coming on this channel too

[@floridaboy9641]

Guess I better run before the cops find out I’m goofy footed

[@KalesBroccoli]

we are watching you. and we are offended.

[@user-qj6nx9ss7v]

In theory this sounds nice. There's a pecking order at every break. Nobody takes turns or shows consideration anymore. Locals are ready to fight and pros are in their own world. They think you want to just watch them.

[@KalesBroccoli]

pecking order helps provide structure and allows for a heathy dose of conscientious localism too.

[@michaelwilson8760]

Gr8 KB. Sadly your vids are peppered by noxious sepo infotainment adds ! Other than this you pretty much sum up the deal at every break in the ocean with this story, esp our local point break

[@KalesBroccoli]

ah sorry we can't help which ads play :) But we do need some form of revenue to continue providing videos (got loads more coming on this channel too)

[@soulsurfer3102]

In my surfing spot. Only gun can help you surf 😂

[@KalesBroccoli]

wave killer I hope just a surfboard fun haha

[@KalesBroccoli]

Gun*

[@soulsurfer3102]

@@KalesBroccoli Gun...sorry my inglish

[@soulsurfer3102]

@@KalesBroccoli ha ha Gun..sorry mt inglish

[@Chob465]

psyched

[@KalesBroccoli]

yeh toby!

[@daveroche689]

Rule number 1: Treat others as you would have them treat you.

[@KalesBroccoli]

yeh nice!

[@simonfrancis7424]

If you don't want to get any waves!! Sadly the only way to get your "fair" share in a crowded local line up is to be a dick, ignore people and snake. Sadly it's the way it is. I've tried to be nice and take my turn, but if you're the only one doing it, you get nothing. You have to change your habits, or take up a new sport.

[@wesleyturner1979]

Id like loss of priority explained when you miss a wave.

[@KalesBroccoli]

basically if you paddle for a wave and miss it, you go to the back of the line

[@wesleyturner1979]

Kales Broccoli what if it looks good and shits out and you really didn’t paddle to hard for it, or backed off...more of moving yourself into position? I’ve been surfing for a long time but it’s always good to know what others are expecting people to do so you don’t piss anyone off especially at a place where you don’t surf often.

[@KalesBroccoli]

@@wesleyturner1979 if you commit to it, you've spent your turn. If you just have a look, see if anyone else is bustling for position and then make up your mind how you want to proceed. It's just like the WSL priority system really - if you really put in strokes but. miss it , then you've used your turn. Got loads more coming on this channel too brother so check it out 🙌🏽

[@dazmac159]

Ideal world yeah? What about the longboarder (me) who sits further out or the local who believes he owns the wave? Ideals are peaceful, history is violent!

[@jellybowl7332]

you just get punched out fat boy.

[@KalesBroccoli]

longbparders have to sit out further to avoid sets, but they should be very cognisant of letting the people who've been waiting catch their waves. If anything, they should wait even longer

[@thebubulibo2269]

Ya but other people dont do what you are showing and thats the problem

[@louisanthony266]

This is a great explanation but unfortunately where I live and surf no one waits or has etiquette. It’s a free for all every single time. It’s really frustrating when 95% of people in the water are wave hogs. California needs a lesson in common decency

[@KalesBroccoli]

I haven't really seen a line up where everybody does this - it is hard sometimes to read the situation and act accordingly - it takes time in the water and confidence :)

[@DanRice24]

👍

[@crashtestdummy6311]

Mate I guess Snapper Rocks is “a little bit busy” Snapper is full of snaking...... the reality is it’s no rules dog eats dog out there 😜

[@KalesBroccoli]

yeah its heavy

[@susigan]

Where you said you are a beach break you dit on inside?,

[@KalesBroccoli]

yep

[@catalinagomez924]

Ha! Welcome to my world! more waves, less quality. Since I'm a very average female surfer, hardly ever I get the chance to get the set waves. Snakes are always around, but great video anyway! Thank You :-D

[@KalesBroccoli]

It's not about being female - its about owning the space in the line up :) I've seen Steph Gilmore totally kill it at Snapper as much as someone like Mick. Comes down to ability and assertiveness :) Good luck!

[@catalinagomez924]

@@KalesBroccoli In a certain way, I do agree with you. Gilmore also has a lot of experience and she is a local at Snapper too. But most of the time when I am in the water, is usually men that come across as snakes and the ones being aggressive. Also sometimes women can be terrible in the water too. It should be about what you video talks about, anyone that surfs, should follow that very simple rule ;-D Thank you again for the videos you make, I have learnt a lot from them. :-)))

[@KalesBroccoli]

@@catalinagomez924 awesome :)

[@jksinorbit]

Tips from Brazil... behave like a loud psychopath and drop in on everyone. You will get lots of waves. See tip 2

[@macster1022]

Only time I drop in on someone is if they're being greedy then I'll go out of my way to make a point 🤙

[@jonsalvador5051]

"what occurs or should ideally should occur", hahah epic

[@KalesBroccoli]

lol. Life right

[@ace-kz9zd]

I'm a goofy and can confirm, I'm definitely a serial killer as well

[@KW-ov2dv]

Great vid. Sadly, the example at 7:50 or snaking the line up happens 97.3% of the time in SoCal. Damn reptiles! Therefore, save your $$$ and go on a surf trip to a third world country for about ten days and have a ton of fun!

[@KalesBroccoli]

haha. sometimes.