How To: CBR650F Valve Check

[@rainermett5626]

Thank you very much! You showed exactly what I need to know! You saved me 200€. Thank you! Greetings from Germany

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Excellent! Thank you for watching!

[@bikesnstuff6962]

Thanks for posting all of these videos! They have been tremendously helpful.

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Thank you! That means a lot.

[@A1MZXNX]

Man, putting it all back must have been fun :). Subscribed!

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Haha, at least I had a video of all the steps! Thank you!!

[@junpei1017]

Thanks for educating us how to do this. I'll definitely pay a guy to check instead.

[@sandwaves5642]

You show very well how poorly the parts on today's bikes are stuck together. Hell to even change the spark plugs.

[@bikesnstuff6962]

Getting that throttle body out was no joke. I found that if you can pry one side out with two flat head screwdrivers, the other 3 pop right out. Only about 3/8" of the throttle body is covered by rubber. Thanks again for making these videos.

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Haha, for real. Thanks for posting the tip and for watching!! :-)

[@Addy29plus5]

👍 good job thanks for uploading using this for my spark plug change that I need to do

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Thanks for watching: hope it helps!

[@karlhungus8946]

Yep, I think I'll go ahead and pay someone to do this.

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

LOL, yeah, sort of wish I had. Good learning experience, but...

[@johnwilson7444]

Ummm ya

[@TheKaiser83]

Hahaha, agree!

[@Anthony-qh1xv]

Yeah this is a good video thank you! Very insightful. So I have a CBR 650 R, same engine. I have noticed a leak from the left side of the engine. My valve gasket both of them are leaking from the side of the engine that your left foot would be on one riding. Is this normal? Will this Have reliability issues

[@Vickyrocks247]

Very informative video sir.... I had my new 650F on 9th feb and covered 3600kms till now... first service is done at 900 kms... but the bike has lots of vibrations at cruising speeds lets say 140-150 kmph..so much that my legs getting numb after sometine... do I feel more vibes on right side footpeg...handlebars also vibrates... do you know any way to get rid or atleast reduce those vibrations? coz I do lots of touring..sometimes 600+ kms a day..and vibrations aren't good for my comfort!

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Thanks for watching. I can't say much about vibrations, other than there are a lot of complaints on the CBR650F forum about it. I have no problems with it. I don't know if my expectations are different, or if I got lucky.

[@Vickyrocks247]

Burnt OnBothEnds Ohh.. thats great you are not having such problems with vibrations.. few people also tried to convince me that its in my mind but I asked them how my mental perception could numb my legs! they are getting numb due to some physical stimulus only :-D... well thanks for reply and keep posting good videos.. :-)

[@tim-typeR]

RIDERS GOT TALENT I've had my 650f for about a year now and to be honest I don't really feel the vibrations but when other people have a go of my bike they say that they can feel the vibrations |: I think you will get used to it.

[@Vickyrocks247]

Cbr650f Rider Hi buddy... Yes I will get used to it... yesterday Was my holiday and i spent time inspecting my bike and I found that the foot peg weights were over torqued... I reassembled them and now I am feeling significant reduction in footpeg vibrations :-) :-).... I hope It gets smoother with time...

[@khellel]

Hey man, had same issue riding in the city when going to work. Fingers eventually got numb from keeping the revs between 4 and 6k. I ended up getting extra heavy bar ends for it and completely forgot about vibrations. Bike smooth as hell now. Give that a try. I go back to stock bar ends when revving high for track days. Stock bar ends performed well for that. Xtra Heavy bar ends can get slightly vibey at certain high revs but can change bike to bike.

[@iawra]

Thanks for sharing this. Can you please tell me which model of RAM mount do you use on top of the fork?

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Of course, thanks for watching. I got mine from telferizer.com, and it's the same model as for the VFR1200 (I e-mailed them at [e-mail]). It's not cheap: £30 plus £10 to ship to the US (in Aug 2016), but it's really nice quality. The rest of the mount was purchased separately.

[@333Kdigital]

Did you put sealant on the lobe corners when reinstalling valve cover?

[@MrJacksjack]

Can’t get the feeler gauge into check the exhaust valve, is it worth taking the radiator off to get more space to work?

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

I’m not sure, sorry. I did it without doing that but this was a while ago.

[@amedeen]

Hello Sir, This is very good video. I'm from Thailand and I'm checking valve clearance my CB650f. I not quite clear about turning crack shaft. (my english is bad). I have questions, when I finish checking In#1 and #3, How many degree should I turn crack shaft to check; 1. Ex#2 and #4 2. Ex#1 and #3 3.In#2 and #4 Thank you

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Half a turn. You can check it out here, where someone uploaded the digital service manual (look in section 3): drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5xWn7TEGuYTd2ZEVTNLYnh6M28

[@soujilim8941]

Hi Sir , may I ask about TDC.When the “T” mark point the notch , and camshaft spocket show IN/EX facing outward its mean that is a TDC? Because I wanna remove the camshaft

[@brettmeth3651]

Hey buddy. I have a 2020 Cbr650r and was wondering where I could find a paper based repair manual for it

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Helm makes/distributes the official Honda manuals: mine is #61MJE00. Based on a quick search I think you'd need #61MKN01 but I don't understand if something weird is going on since it's cheaper than #61MKN00. I paid $57.50 in 2014 but would have gladly paid triple that. Really pays for itself.

[@SirSpinalColumn]

This was a great video, but also completely put me off ever trying this myself. Partly I don’t have an indoor space to leave the bike if I run out of time, but most because wow that looks easy to screw up.

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Thank you! And totally. I'm very fortunate to finally have a garage and to have slowly collected all the basic tools. But hopefully it's still useful even if it's just to learn a bit more about how our bikes work, and for peace of mind that it actually might be worth paying a professional for.

[@SirSpinalColumn]

Burnt OnBothEnds I actually ended up going with an sv650 so less cylinders but there’s 2 heads so probably a push in terms of difficulty.

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

@@SirSpinalColumn Great choice! I've never ridden one but I've always admired that model (old and new).

[@Anthony-qh1xv]

One more thing, on the right side of my engine, both of the valve gaskets when I touch them, don’t move a lot. Not a lot of play. However, on the left side of my engine, decide that you measured valve clearance on, those gaskets both have more play. Is this normal? Does this affect longevity? Thank you for your time!

[@ConveyorMan]

I want to know about all of the tools for used to do this.

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

It's been a few years since I did this but I'll help if I can. The manual doesn't typically list bolt sizes or tools so I don't have too much to go off other than this video, to be honest. I'm just a home mechanic with a totally unrelated career and a modest set of tools that I've slowly accumulated over the years from doing stuff like this. You can go a long way with a set of metric sockets, hex keys, screwdrivers and a torque wrench. The only thing I bought specifically for this was the set of feeler gauges for $7 on Amazon. The parts are listed in the expanded description. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

[@ConveyorMan]

@@BurntOnBothEnds Thank you very much sir.

[@jonathantaylor9363]

I bought a 2016 cbr650f. Do you recommend any type of swing arm spools so I can lift the rear end? the bike didn't come with any?

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Congrats on the great bike and thanks for watching! I have the Trackside Rear Paddock Stand (search Revzilla or CycleGear). It has flat rubberized prongs that lift the swingarm from underneath. It isn't 100% level since our bikes have an asymmetrical swingarm, but it its pretty close and works just fine for everything I've done. That model, and ones like it, can pivot for use on bikes with spools too. So I can't recommend any spools for the 650F, since I don't have any. I know there are options out there though.

[@jonathantaylor9363]

Burnt OnBothEnds Thank you, I will definitely look into it. what's the top speed for the cbr650f?

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Couldn't tell ya. I guess, fast enough? I'm plenty happy just passing into the triple digits. If you watch my track day videos you'll see I usually chicken out before 110mph, haha. That first turn at Grattan is sharp and I haven't honed my brake zone yet on the straight. Acceleration is slower than an RR, but I want to say the top speeds are similar. Regardless, it's pretty fast.

[@jonathantaylor9363]

You live down south?

[@jonathantaylor9363]

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[@bradjacobs1844]

I appreciate manufacturers like Harley and Moto Gucci that make it unnecessary or very easy to adjust the valves. Hydraulic Adjusters or screw and locknut like on a Moto Guzzi make home maintenance possible for the average person. Performing this check on a Honda interceptor or CBR 650 R should be reserved for the professional. I’m not saying it can’t be accomplished at home, but there is a lot of room for error.

[@michaelflaherty1358]

Good video. Why oh why do manufacturers make it so bloody hard to complete valve clearance checks. I am definitely going to buy a used BMW R1200GS, easy access on a boxer engine.

[@kiran-wh9wg]

Can you share the service workshop manual of this motorcycle

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

I haven't looked at this because I paid for a physical copy, but I saw this recently on the 650F forums: 650f.bike/threads/2014-service-manual.100/

[@drewtaylor6623]

Do you even need to remove the throttle bodies?

[@MightyMouzMoto]

Very cool! Thx

[@sergiomatosfernandes]

burnt onbothends were i can get the - workshop manual to cb650f honda ?

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

I haven't looked at this because I paid for a physical copy, but I saw this recently on the 650F forums: @t

[@SuperSneakySteve]

Your gas tank has an electric pump. Fuel won't come out unless it's activated.

[@omegapsi847]

what is the purpose of checking the valves and what happens if you dont do it?

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

It's really important for long-term engine reliability and function. I'm no expert but there is plenty of info online if you Google it. Early on it's probably not a big deal, but I plan to have this bike forever so I'm sticking to the maintenance schedule. This bike is due for its first check at 16k miles.

[@zmitev]

+Burnt OnBothEnds on how many km/miles you did this service?

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Roughly 16,000 miles, as it says in the description.

[@SahilSharma-wd8hy]

Is this the reason for spedd lagimg i have cbr 650f rhere ia ratling sound from it and laging in acclerate

[@Jimmyskydive]

Apparently a rattling sound can be the symptom of this problem. And you will not only have to check the valve but also measure and get the right shim size to replace. It's probably easier to get a shop to do it. But it can be expensive

[@Kaspurr84]

I did the 500 mile 2013 cbr500r adjustment myself, not looking forward to this mess lol

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Nice. Well at least you have some experience! It's just tricky with the huge engine trapped in a small frame, spun into a web of wires, cables and air ducts. Not looking forward to putting it back together, haha.

[@drewtaylor6623]

My bad I've just read the service book and yes you do need to remove them 😩

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Yeah, you wouldn't be able to remove the head without it. Everything is a pretty tight fit.

[@BleachDemon99]

Never back up a chain driven motor on the crank pulley 👍🏽

[@drunkenmonkey5529]

@9:14 your location looks like "evil dead" hut bro

[@chrispack3131]

It really isn’t difficult to adjust your throttle cables once disconnected

[@themarvelousvintage76]

Its a lot of work they should be made those modern engine with self adjustment take all day......

[@camj3557]

So basically just disconnect everything!

[@untot82]

This looks like absolutely no fun ;) Nice to see how my bike looks from inside

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

It's even less fun than it looks on camera, hahaha.

[@user735_]

The fact that you need to remove the throttle body is like wtf? what's next? Drop the engine?

[@sandwaves5642]

Yeeep - this bike - Im probably NOT buying. And not it's latest version ! A DIY - hell, and to pay the workshop - is far from cheap. A very nice bike to ride - not so nice to work on 🙁 They just HAVE to pack them like this 🤢

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

It sucks that this is how almost all modern consumer vehicles are. New bikes/cars/etc. can definitely be worth it for the enhanced safety, features, performance, etc. but this technology has for sure helped drive down the number of home mechanics. Just changing a headlight bulb on some cars can be a nightmare these days. At least on a motorcycle, there's nothing too heavy to be moved by one person without a professional lift.

[@brianhorrobin6450]

Drop the engine out would be much easier

[@edgeofentropy3492]

Fuck that! It is cheaper AND easier to pay honda for that service.

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

Well, it's definitely not cheaper to pay Honda to do it? lol

[@edgeofentropy3492]

@@BurntOnBothEnds When you factor in the time it takes to make it right, it is cheaper. Cheaper for me.

[@BurntOnBothEnds]

@@edgeofentropy3492 Absolutely, for most people it will be worth the ease and peace of mind to pay a professional. Hopefully this video helps people make that decision, and benefits those who chose to go for it. Thanks for watching.