Thank you,, I have multiple zones with 4 of these old motors, and they had been getting stuck open/closed intermittently for a few years. I found this video,, went ahead and replaced all 4 for $450 on Amazon. Working perfect now, no telling how much an AC company would have charged. The new motors are so much better with the gauge and light to see if they are closed or not.
@rinkeshhere3 ай бұрын
6 years on, your video just inspired me to not pay $1100+ to one of the 3 HVAC companies, and just do this myself. DIY and its communities are great and ever present! Thank you good friend!
@jong49392 ай бұрын
I know me too!
@rjtseller50122 жыл бұрын
This video was exactly what I needed! Clear, concise, and extremely helpful. I was able to replace my damper motor in about 15 minutes and save a couple hundred dollars at the same time. Thank you!
@chrismiller75604 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Saved me $300 and I completed the job in 20 minutes. One quick comment. Since I did not have a hole in my duct, I used the actuator alignment pin hole and a good flashlight to see if the damper was open or closed. Once I had the damper open everything lined up perfectly. Excellent video, very much appreciated. Thanks again, Chris
@MrExodusprime4 жыл бұрын
You just saved me 1200. The AC company my home warranty firm sent to my house to find out why my AC wasn't working on the 2nd floor wanted 600 per to replace them. You are a lifesaver!
@cwebb61911 ай бұрын
Same! Charge $700 for a $100 part, ridiculous
@BT-kt7gb4 жыл бұрын
This was a very good video. They wanted to charge me 395.00 to replace my old one. I paid 88.50 from amazon and replaced it myself. I live in Reedy fork and this is an ongoing problem. I am just glad I found this video.
@mikep44303 жыл бұрын
Man i wanted to write to you personally and say THANK YOU! I had the exact same issue with the exact same part and had it not been for your video (which was very detailed!) I would have ended up paying a crooked technician about $1000 bucks for this same exact repair. You saved me $900 bucks. Thank you!
@hanamichizakuragi50213 жыл бұрын
One of my damper motor is not working now - they asked for 900$ the motor is only cost for 80$ -
@Nick2JZ Жыл бұрын
@@hanamichizakuragi5021 Jesus what a snake! I learned to do everything myself....thanks god their is youtube and people like
@TheSumodog12 Жыл бұрын
@@hanamichizakuragi5021 Like everything, the prices went up and now they are over $100 but still cheaper to DYI
@ken-niffk52133 ай бұрын
I was wondering how much they were going to charge. I think mine is out rn. Half my bedroom is cooling while the other half isn’t blowing cold air 😢
@angelrodriguez6427 Жыл бұрын
Great video bud Im an hvac tech and they sending me to change one out tomorrow, I had never done it or seen it done Im glad I found you’re video bud thankyou so much .
@saintpete3573 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Nice video! I thought I had to replace the entire damper assembly; didn’t realize you can just replace the motor. I also wanted to thank for telling me the damper is normally in closed position. Thank you so much! 😊
@royal99874 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Video! I had a tech come out and install the part, after the installation the second floor was getting real warm, after watching the dampeners and monitoring airflow I realized when he installed it open was closed and closed was open. After watching your video I fixed the issue. Thanks again
@henrydong14082 ай бұрын
Excellent job by explaining the damper so well! Well done!
@barney18346 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. You are a champ! I had 2 techs who quoted me $900 and $600 to replace one of these dampers that costs $100 on Amazon. Ii took me 15 mins to replace it after watching this video. I understand people gotta make a profit but what these guys are charging is boderline unethical.
@markgraham88625 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy! HVAC wanted $433.00, i did for 76.00, I appreciate your help!!
@RRRWoodworks5 жыл бұрын
Nice! That’s exactly why this video is up!
@sorrelsj Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Excellent video, I replaced my damper in about 15 mins thanks to this video. An extra thanks for the direct replacement part number. BTW I was able to see the damper position when open via the damper mounting hole, no need to open the duct.
@milviacruz3612 Жыл бұрын
I would like to change mine but I am not sure about the wires … what color should I connect with ? Need help
@adammoe605 Жыл бұрын
always take pictures before removing anything also you can label wires @@milviacruz3612
@mikesclimenti2352 жыл бұрын
Great video that super helpful so thanks for making it!!! My valve was stuck shut and the AC repair guy wanted between $500-$600 to do what you did. I found the part on Amazon for $100 and will be changing it myself this weekend.
@jjones3172 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@jrm5236 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I also appreciate you taking the time to specify the part numbers involved, etc.
@kneebaby756 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I called a 2 heat and air companies, need one could figure out the problem. From the KZbin video, I was able to fix the problem myself.
@homeautodiy67636 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear! That’s exactly why I started this channel.
@rickmccabe10Ай бұрын
You just saved me a shit ton of money. Thanks man!! Grabbed two motors off Amazon for $100 ea.
@CrashdummyX3 жыл бұрын
I had the same exact model and got the same replacement. This tutorial was a great help.
@farisyassin7468 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I just had a tech out and told me this was the issue. So he unhooked it completely just temporarily. So I don’t have control of the downstairs zone. But it’s now freezing downstairs. They’re working up a price to replace the motor. He said “it’s not gonna be cheap” but I’m pretty handy so I’m gonna see what they say and do it myself anyway.
@hermenegildoluisgasparotto78814 жыл бұрын
Very illustrative and well filmed video. Basically, I checked all the comments posted here and I would like to add some points that I found useful when replacing the motor on ARD damper. As the damper is a power open-spring close system, once the old motor wiring is disconnected, the damper blade must immediately go to the open position. Check that the set screw is pointing to the open position on the label, ensuring that the damper blade is in the open position. Therefore, when installing the new motor, the damper will already be in an open position. The only thing left is to connect the wires. Regarding wiring all you need is to connect two wires : Common (M1) and 24Vac. M1 on the damper to M1 (common) on the control panel and M6 on the damper to the M6 (NO - Normally Open) on the control. The instruction manual is simple, but explains how to replace and check the operation of the engine later. The package no longer includes the Allen key (Hex).
@justinsgarage1125 Жыл бұрын
Nice! I have a 2 zone Honeywell system and the motor for the FROG is either bad or the spring was rusty. This video helped a ton
@wigidy125 жыл бұрын
This is the most clearly explained video on the topic, thanks!
@AndyMidway5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH you probably saved me a $200 service call! Easy to do and he's right the video took longer than the repair!
@slipstreaming32953 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. I was completely prepared climbing into the attic on a very hot day. Took more time getting to the actual damper that it did replacing the motor. Thanks for sharing.
@iirobinsonronnie6 жыл бұрын
Great info! Been struggling with my damper lately. Thanks for the model number for the replacement. Super simple swap.
@coolezum5 жыл бұрын
Little advise, turn system off and long needle nose pliers to hold shaft open and seal that duct, should never be able to put hand in damper.
@hermenegildoluisgasparotto78814 жыл бұрын
@coolezum this actuator is for the normally open damper. That said, when the system is turned off, the damper is opened by its spring, if it doesn't, something else is wrong with the damper. So there is no need to hold with pliers
@michaelcosson3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! You are to-the-point, clear, and well-spoken. Well done!
@JuanMartinez-bj1ns6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this excellent video! Also saved me $400 for a 10 minute install on an $80 part. Much appreciated!
@RRRWoodworks6 жыл бұрын
Juan Martinez That’s exactly why I make these videos! For some fixes, you don’t need to be an electrician/plumber/etc to get the job done.
@jn846 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. I actually had my furnace stop working the other day. For a couple days it seemed something was wrong. I would put the heat on and my apartment would start to warm up but then never got to where I wanted it. So I would crank up the thermostat a bit more. Results were intermittent. So I thought I better check the furnace. The thermostat was set higher than the actual temperature but the furnace was not working. I turned the main switch off, just like a light switch, then turned it on, I heard a funny almost wheezing noise coming from this round unit attached to the flew. It appeared to be connected to the damper. I'm not an expert on any of these things but years ago I had some experiences which taught me the names of the different parts and structures. Anyway I told my landlady and said I would call the plumber who I got to know a few years ago when he was here about 5 times to fix other issues with the furnace. Sure enough it was the damper motor that wasn't working and it stopped the entire furnace from running. The temps would be going down below freezing that night so we needed to get it fixed. When the plumber came he didn't have the part so he disabled the damper motor altogether so that the furnace would run. We confirmed it would shut off when the thermostat hit the setting. There was no real danger he said, it's just the furnace would not be as efficient. Anyway just another story of how 1 small thing can prevent the entire heating structure from operating.
@rongrau18982 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Simple to do and I also saved myself a bunch of money. Thanks very much!!!
@palmettohall4 ай бұрын
Great video, super helpful. Excellent footage and clear articulation of the problem and solution. Very easy to follow - thx much!
@petlove4life5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! Replacing the same model damper motor in my house. I'll use the long needle nose pliers to keep the damper open when installing.
@Yuuiiytrfbh2 жыл бұрын
But how would this method work? I tried doing it, but when I let the needle nose pliers go to push the motor all the way down, the damper swings shut.
@petlove4life2 жыл бұрын
@@Yuuiiytrfbh I ended up using a locking forceps pliers. It was thin enough for me to push down the motor.
@SonHoang-q9b10 күн бұрын
Thanks so much your time !!! Save me a lot money and time !!!! Wishing everything good come to You!!!!! Thanks thanks!!!
@BigSorry Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the help. Saved me $900.
@origtex5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Local AC company wanted $587 to change out two motors. Thumbs up and I subscribed
@TheSumodog124 жыл бұрын
I just paid $700 for 2 plus $100 for the diagnostic
@origtex4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSumodog12 Hate to hear that. Each motor is about $80 and 10 minutes of labor.
@TheSumodog124 жыл бұрын
@@origtex Wow, good thing he didn't have the 3rd one in his van or I would have been out another $350. He wanted to come back but I cancelled the appt. I will do it myself.
@kennethford19712 жыл бұрын
Good vid. In Houston it gets hot and we have a 2 thermo system. I just got to figure out which one it is. One is easy to get to the other will be a pain for a 6ft 5in guy. But anyway I am doing this once the part comes in. GREAT VID.
@jamesbarber58205 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Knocked it out in no time. Now we can sleep in peace...heck live in comfort again. THANKS!!!
@Asher8044 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, you probably saved me $300-$500. Keep it up.
@Nick2JZ Жыл бұрын
Thank you friend.....you have earned subscribed and thump-up! Update on price as of 12-2-22 on Amazon $115
@utubear2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! Thanks so much. Exactly the information I needed.
@mikeou14986 жыл бұрын
Thanks lot , excellent video with all details explained very well !! The AC guy charge 400$ to get problem fixed, now I can buy the part to get my old M847D1004 replaced by myself.
@RRRWoodworks6 жыл бұрын
mike ou I’m glad it helped out!
@marloschmidtswitch4 жыл бұрын
WOW.... same exact one that I’m having trouble with. I’ll be attempting this fix this week. Thank you.
@christopherperka78413 жыл бұрын
Just replaced the exact damper motor, great video, thank you!
@ChiragYadavVLC8 ай бұрын
Very informative. Answered a lot of questions
@dangump89463 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This video saved me some money today!
@155marcp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This saved me alot of money. Fast and easy.
@hildercastellonfonseca99452 күн бұрын
This type of Honeywell brand damper adapts to the old carrier brand damper system. I am talking about replacing the actuator without having to change the shaft of the old damper. thank you Master
@theholyangel4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Followed your video and everything worked perfectly.
@haimaphilhp3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You video solved a puzzle I had!
@TheSumodog124 жыл бұрын
Great Job on the Video. I just had to replaced in my house at $350 each. I wish I had found this first. Question, in another video, it stated that M1 was the hot and M6 the common.
@hermenegildoluisgasparotto78814 жыл бұрын
Brian, I saw the same SupplyHouse video and it's wrong. If you check any image of this actuator online, you will clearly see that M1 is common and M6 is 24 Vac (hot).
@michaelmattson35153 жыл бұрын
Now that was interesting. So I don’t need to use same motor, I can up grade. I replaced the Honeywell control board two years ago with the newest revision. This house was built in 2003 with a two thermostat damper system. One upstairs & one downstairs. One of the dampers for downstairs is always open. This system has been driving us nuts. We also have a make up air duct work. Not good for Houston in the summer. It also has a by pass recirculating duct with a weighted arm so it will self balance. So as I understand how it works. Funny thing, not one AC tech said they could find the controller, Honeywell doesn’t make it any more. My wife the sleuth found it in an hr. in Minneapolis Minnesota. Had to go around world calling service centers that said the same thing. My wife some how got a hold of a service manager in Minneapolis. We had it shipped to Grainger under our company name & got it in 3 days. We work out of our house so that helped a bit for taxes. Just so happens when I was a locksmith in Minneapolis Honeywell was one of my accounts and the service manager remembered me. I was making desk & file cabinet keys for his department. We talked for a bit. When we go up to Minnesota we’ll go out for a beer. Thanks
@Aradhya.Sharma2 жыл бұрын
I was able to install this in under 15 mins. Thanks to your clear instructions! I have a concern, mine does not go all the way down to zero and stops at 3 but the closed light turns on. Why would that be? In your video, I see the indicator goes all the way down till zero and then the light turns full red as closed.
@TheRickterscale14 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew. Great video
@mcethos86784 жыл бұрын
Awsome video man! Changing the same one you did on mine! Thanks! It helped alot!
@SachinGuptaonline5 жыл бұрын
This was very informative and nicely done video. Thanks Andrew. A followup question if you could answer - I have a damper control that has 3 settings, all way open, partially open and all way closed. Hoping it would be similar work to replace. If you have any more guidance to it, that would be awesome. On to find where the dampers are in this new home. :)
@tomjoycejr53166 жыл бұрын
If your duct is completely closed off (no slot to put your hand thru), how can you determine valve location? Open? Closed? It seems that this is an important step when assembling the actuator to the valve shaft. Any tips other than cutting a slot in the duct piping would be appreciated. Thanks! Great video BTW.
@RRRWoodworks6 жыл бұрын
Hi Tommy. Some actuators have a small lever either at the top (between the motor & the actuator), or on the opposite side of the actuator that you can move around manually. Check that out and let me know if anything is accessible without having to cut a slit in the duct!
@WAFFLE25625Ай бұрын
Good video. How did you find the replacement for the discontinued damper?
@rynodawg16 күн бұрын
It’s on Amazon if you search the old part number, I just bought a few.
@elroyblackbean3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and well explained. Thank you.
@jeffnate18224 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!! Very helpful . Thank you for saving me some money. I get to add more money to my daughters college fund now. :-)
@davisrowe63664 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! It is incredibly helpful.
@checkthisjunkout5 жыл бұрын
Great video! So how’d you determine before you purchased the damper that your spring was good? Is a spring able to close a damper when motor is bad? Do you know a part number for the spring? Is it as easy to install? Can a sprung damper be controlled with a power-close and powered-open motor? Anybody??
@mjyu62725 жыл бұрын
Checkthisjunkout if your problem is the damper is closed (not blowing cool air or very mild) when the cool is on, the zone light on the zone board is green (it turns red when the zone board gives a closed signal), in this case, yr zone board is fine and is sending power to the motor and telling it to open the damper, but it the motor is not working or the damper is stuck. You can manually turn the damper open by turning the bolt, you can find it hidden in the back. now you can survive the time before you replace it.
@checkthisjunkout5 жыл бұрын
finixtree Yu thanks. Yeah I have a damper stuck open. I wonder if the spring is still any good, since I haven’t been able to observe it opening the damper since motor doesn’t close it. The other damper has an issue not being able to close completely and shut off flow while the air handler is running. (If it closes before the AHU gets going, it can do it.)
@graves85 жыл бұрын
Andrew, thank you this was very helpful.
@lzgamer81332 жыл бұрын
24v doesn’t hurt but make sure the furnace is unplugged to prevent a short to the board.
@rafaelcalventi19552 ай бұрын
Always turn power off, because if the life 24v touches the metal, you'll short the fuse in the air handler or burn the transformer. besides that very informative video.
@efrainsanchez66606 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Very helpful and instructive.
@ARBACHS3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, you are good..... it was helpful...
@Yuuiiytrfbh2 жыл бұрын
So if you can’t reach your hand into the damper, how would you make sure that it is fully open when you install the new motor?
@raykirberger91243 жыл бұрын
huge help and perfect video tahnk you!!!
@CaveFreediving4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, it's exactly what I needed to know.
@KidFrizMRFIXIT4 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks
@ryana68365 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Problem solved. Very helpful
@topgsolarcleaning3 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for the video bro. this will be an easy fix
@michelecervelli77514 жыл бұрын
Hello, how can you set a MD at 10 % to grant minimal air supply, keeping the 0% and 100% option ? Thank you , Mike
@rodneyhubert73193 жыл бұрын
Great play by play!!
@nicholaszabaras14882 жыл бұрын
My house which I bought a year ago has 3 damper motors and the one that controls the airflow to the master bedroom must be wide open and makes that room and bathroom extremely hot. I am not able to see the brand and model number on the malfunctioning damper motor but the other two seem to be the Honeywell M847D-1004 type. Is it safe to assume that the bad motor can be replaced by the Honeywell M847D-Zone or M847D-1004 one? When the heater starts I see the back side of the bad motor spinning. Does this indicate that the springs inside the motor are bad and unable to open/close the damper? Any suggestions?
@dannyp36525 жыл бұрын
great videe im a hvac cobtractor in Texas , i tried to do this but couldnt find just the motor been replacing the whole damper
@ActorRudyJimenez5 жыл бұрын
Is Damper supposed to close when Furnace turns on? Common sense is telling me it should be open to force air upstairs when the furnace is on but then again I'm not HVAC certified.
@JMang1013 жыл бұрын
Helpful and easy! Thanks!
@clarkgwozdecki67822 жыл бұрын
For anyone watching this you dont have to cut a hole in supply duct like the hack did in this video. You can see the position of the damper by looking at the position of the damper through the little 1/4 inch hole with the plastic insert.
@publicname5153 ай бұрын
So to clarify when you turn the AC off, it closes the duct. when you turn the zone on and ac is blasting it opens the duct?
@jaysonlast5764 жыл бұрын
Great description and vid but how can you tell if your existing Honeywell is an open or closed model?
@teegee1262 жыл бұрын
you'd just have to find the model number on the damper motor and google
@MilneFPV Жыл бұрын
You da man!!! Thanks!!!
@ActorRudyJimenez5 жыл бұрын
Great Video. One question. Is Damper supposed to close when Furnace turns on? Common sense is telling me it should be open to force air upstairs when the furnace is on but then again I'm not HVAC certified.
@12rwoody4 жыл бұрын
Local company wanted to charge me $710 to change out one of these. I found the part online and watched your video instead.
@Islander4163 жыл бұрын
Great video, I currently have a problem on mine where they are normally closed and should spring open when AC is turned on. Problem is that they sometimes don't open and they cause back pressure and the system sees back pressure and starts sweating in the attic causing water damage. Can I replace the normally closed to normally open dampers with the exact same wiring?
@Islander4163 жыл бұрын
I currently have the same part number you listed M847D1004.
@juliolacayo15963 жыл бұрын
Gracias Excellent tip
@adampajcz74555 жыл бұрын
I would seal that hole up before that insulation becomes part of your air stream.
@defaultgenCQ6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the helpful video. Well explained.
@homeautodiy67636 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@ericeric17224 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this video ANDREW ROGERS it save money for me
@Alx285165 ай бұрын
Does this replace those pos24v synchron motor?
@petesingh2925 жыл бұрын
Great video , I want a know if there's a training videos as how to troubleshoot zone control of Hvac system ,your reply will be greatly appreciated thanks
@RRRWoodworks5 жыл бұрын
Pete Singh, I’m honestly not sure if there is or not.
@petesingh2924 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew , for the reply
@joemattress61774 жыл бұрын
Great video!! thanks!
@Cahmin2 жыл бұрын
What size hex key/Allen key does it need? I tried a bunch I had but nothing seemed to fit.
@bchim3113 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks!
@sarunmaharjan3 жыл бұрын
What does the red switch on the side do? Should it be set to 0 or 3?
@ninakhromova1256 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This was very helpful
@homeautodiy67636 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nina!
@victorboyd40522 жыл бұрын
So it should be set to close all the time in the summer
@cevaz48516 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. Question. Do I need to cut the power for the a/c unit ?
@RRRWoodworks6 жыл бұрын
Ce Vaz I did not have to cut the power to my AC unit because the wires that run from the AC unit to the damper are low voltage (24V I think?) and not enough to shock you. *** I am not a licensed electrician, so I recommend doing more research on the voltage of your particular unit/wires/motor.***
@cevaz48516 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply.
@nomerfernandez23864 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative video sir. Anyway, correct me if im wrong, just some clarification, so this actuator is power close/spring open, right? Purpose of the motor is to close the damper, purpose of the spring is to open the damper. Where is the spring located, is it also in this actuator or in the damper? TIA
@hermenegildoluisgasparotto78814 жыл бұрын
Nomer, it is in the actuator. If you still have the old M847D1004 you can see the spring after taking its lid off.