How to Choose Luggage for Your Adventure Bike

[@BigRockMoto]

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[@mabecka]

Thank's, this was helpful! An alternative to rackless bags is the Givi Canyon GRT721, mounting base. Cheers from Sweden!

[@timothydubber549]

Have had BMW and SW Motech hard panniers and top box. Now exclusively use Kriega luggage and a dry bag with Rok straps. Cheaper, can move from bike to bike and a lot less weight.

[@RamblingRuters]

I agree, I love my Kreiga system, had them in 3 bikes and only thing needed was some new mounting straps, great system and well thought out

[@williammahaffy4642]

Also have Kreiga. Brilliant system! I wish they made a proper tanklok bag but I use a 20L up front and a 20/10/10 combo on the tail and it has worked great for multiweek trips.

[@alpsalish]

Fuck yeah!

[@astronautonroad1]

I was waiting for someone to mention Kriega. I just ordered the OS 36 system. Can't wait to put it to use.

[@dmitrio.193]

A configuration worth mentioning, in my opinion, is a hard top case and soft side panniers. Ease of access to day gear and won’t crush your legs or get bent up in a mild tip over.

[@tainted1581]

Good for tech storage, such as moto pump or comms gear. This is what i’ll be doing.

[@Jack-yl7cc]

This is the setup I prefer although I mostly use the top case to store my helmet and other gear I want to take off whenever I stop.

[@shaundisch2020]

You mean the pokey tire tools in your soft luggage become safe when they go through your leg? I think nice, flat hard luggage is better in some ways.

[@Jack-yl7cc]

​@@shaundisch2020 I have the Slime "Pro-Series" metal handled tire plug kit and I haven't had any problems with them poking things they shouldn't(they are kept in a faux leather pouch that some of the cheaper sets come in). The key is that the soft luggage for ADV bikes is actually surprisingly rugged and it takes a lot to accidentally damage them. Hard luggage on the other hand is actually very easy to damage, it's like the difference between a plastic soda bottle and an aluminum soda can.

[@shaundisch2020]

@@Jack-yl7cc I have dropped my hard luggage a million times, makes the bike easier to pick up. Dents all over but still keep my stuff locked up and easy to access.

[@mikesnodgrass1450]

Great review on showcasing the different styles and options!! One thing that stuck out for me I wanted to mention having experience with both soft panniers and a rack less system. You talk about it being more commitment with the reckless to get it strapped onto the bike vs the click on/off of the panniers however I would argue that strapping the reckless 80 to the bike as the backbone of the system is only comparable to adding the luggage rack the panniers mount to and that pulling the dry bags of the reckless on/off is pretty close to the same effort it takes to dismount a pannier bag although I would give he edge to the panniers. I think initial set up / mounting of the reckless systems takes more effort and attention but I think day to day ease of use vs soft panniers is very close to the same. That being said though all these choices and debate about what works best and what’s right for who is half the fun so again great review ! I enjoy he content and look forward to more in the future!

[@johncoleman1935]

07 KLR - Went with Tusk rack and large hard panniers. Wanted good protection for camera gear and easy access. Ride to places for pictures and then usually gravel or two track. With the thought of possible injury bought decent boots. On a recent trip 1K miles, Bike fell over at a gas station with only a slight dent on the pannier where it was attached to the rack. Didn't see the dent until I took it off. Long day, tired and late. 😎. Good video Ian, thanks as always. Also have a soft duffel and tried the camera in there (dry run for access), hard pannier access wins hands down. Always trade offs.

[@drumsnbass]

As a “Starbucks” touring guy, I love the hard cases. BTW, you left out the option you can strap stuff to the tops of the cases.

[@scottfhscottfh]

So, what is conspicuously missing is the semi rigid LONERIDER Luggage. Their system is by far the best I’ve used. I was a MOSKO MOTO fan, having used their Backcountry set for a 10,500 km trip. They worked great, but the Semi Rigid wins, providing the safety benefits of soft luggage and the shape and form of hard panniers! Also, I disagree with your comment about no straps on the hard panniers, if you strap items to the top, now you must do strap management.

[@BARS113113]

On my drz400 got Chinese 'amphibious' 60L pants and 40L top waterproof duffle 2nd season in the city and trips with no damage Not very comfortable to put and get the stuff out but lanefiltering is as easy as it is without them Also I move pants little bit forward and don't get exhaust damage+ my S is very thankful)) Everything costed around 100$

[@motorcyclistfromholland8856]

On my GS I’ve got hard panniers and on my wife’s vstrom we’ve got soft panniers. Mine takes wind on speeds above 120km. with the softpanniers you don’t notice then. Also a lot lighter. Also filtering is easier because the bike is just smaller with soft panniers.

[@bwnco]

I love the conversation an real time experience his videos start. Excellent always reviews of the review. Nothing beats real time experience. I do not buy anything until coming you tube it first!

[@elgringoec]

Hi Ian, I would have liked to see you address riding two-up with the different styles.

[@uncommonsense5876]

Top notch. Thank you for good pros and cons on each. Agree on all points. I have the hard case panniers. The biggest con for me with the panniers on my Super Tenere is they're the most difficult (of the 3 setups) to get on & off the bike. As they're so bulky. But they are very convenient and roomy.

[@dartagnand4479]

Hello Big Rock Moto! I’ve been enjoying your content for a long time now, great stuff! Please add the Shad TR40 and the Givi softbags as well; Shad has a cool locking system and the quality is really good for the price point. All the best!

[@jamesfairmind2247]

Excellent and very thought-provoking useful video. I personally like rackless for the handling benefits you mention. You could also have covered the Giant Loop Coyote. Anyway, I always like you presentation so much Sir, very calm and considered, you remind me (voice wise) of a much younger Christopher Walken, LOL!

[@tainted1581]

Australians need to know about Andy Strapz and Naz Bags. Good Ausmade alternatives!

[@danielpalmberg3371]

As you say - it is a percieved security... But also in the eyes of the thief. I think often it is the occation/opportunity that makes the thief? It would be very interesting to see statistics (from insurance companies etc), if there is any difference between number of thefts from motor cycles - if there is any difference between hard or soft panniers.

[@denischartrand3912]

I just purchased the base and a set of 6 liter per side os adventure bag for my 890r. Plan on doing a duffle bag for day trips. The kriega would be for tools and rain suits. Would love to see videos that talk about size of bags required vs day trips, basic necessities, etc.

[@maxxg7]

I just subscribed. This channel is so nice to watch and learn and your presentation skills are awesome. Good luck from Romania!

[@ChooseBrian]

Solid vid. Great info. I love my Mosko Backcountry 35’s

[@KLRmurdercycle]

I've been coast to coast and a couple other places in my 10 years. Didn't start really branching out until 7 years ago. Used only Giant Loop Coyote and Mojavi, and a back pack. Don't mind wearing a pack, so meh. So they are rackless😃and highly abrasive😕 A Great Basin would probably be enough for me. Maybe a future purchase.✌ Who are Charlie and Ewan?🤭

[@haraldsimon2807]

What about the UV radiation and weather resistant over a long duration of use? In my experience, every plastic fibric will break after some years of use. A point for the hard panier.

[@trapskilla]

You should do a Mosko Vs Kriega review

[@armored-clown]

Love your stuff Ian and this comparison in different options however these specific soft luggage options are absurdly overpriced. I bought a full set of GIVI side pannier racks and a top rack/plate, a 60L dry bag with 2-30L waterproof soft panniers 120L total storage for a total price after tax of about $615.. Just for these recommended bags or hard cases alone are way more expensive than that with far less storage. It's insanity what they think they can squeeze out of people.

[@renato90rocha]

Great video! Mosko for sure in my triumph 900RP. BTW which mirrors are those on ktm?

[@mattqueen8748]

Tell me about that extra gas carrier on the back rack on your bike

[@shti1423lostaccounts]

Love your explaination, it helps ;)

[@ronron1224]

I've been following your channel for some time and subscribed. I liked your opinion on alot of subject and product. What is your suggestion or opinion on my question. I'm retired, nevered own a bike, 5'2" with 25 instead yea I'm short.i want to by a bike, f750 gs adventure or f850 gs adventure. I got the time and want to get out there and see what I missed out working for 34 years and now retired. Most of the travels will be on black to but would like to go off road or maybe hit some bar, so what do you suggest for for fist time. Bike and travel. Keep up on what you do be safe.

[@marcclarke01]

Thanks!

[@DragonNova]

You need a new shock for that CRF 300 ;)

[@ryanmalone2681]

Ian- I’d I use your shopping links, which default to Chrome, and copy the links to Safari, which is what I use for all shopping, will that work? I also like to browse a lot and not sure whether browsing after using on of the link you provided will give you the kickback. Can you confirm? I want to support but, being in IT, I’m kinda questioning whether this sort of usage will work.

[@pumpkineter_69]

Why these are so expensive? I mean most of cheaper of them start more expensive than sky bags or American tourister.

[@zefautino]

There is no such thing as "the best option". Each individual must know what suits his needs.

[@brummil]

This is theoretic. Only for riders that buy brandnew. To be honest .......... most of US buy used because lack of money. Most of the long distance tourers(Africa twin, Tenere, BMW, Transalp, or others got a System already installed, so u gonna Deal with it. On a New Bike i would prefer a Rack with hard stuff on the side and a soft on the top. Cause the hard stuff got a major advantage in my view. It helps to protect ur bike, if u drop it. This will happen for sure. No matter, if u r an experianced rider or a newbie. That guy that didnt drop the bike offroad wasnt born yet or is a bloody liar like D.J.Tr...! Period

[@temeventures577]

Hello and thanks for another great video! I used to have Wolfman Rocky Mountain Expedition saddle bags on my Triumph Tiger 800XC and then in my BMW R1250 GSA. My luggage video can be found here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoDKlGOIpsyfn80 I recently sold the Wolfman bags and bought Mosko Moto Backcountry 35 liter saddle bags (exactly the ones presented here). I haven’t motocamped with them yet, but the the first impression is that they’re awesome. Packing and unpacking is so much easier than with Wolfman, let alone the fast removal from / attachment to the bike.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

I don't get the intro. These 3 types of luggage have been around at least since 1995.

[@240fxst]

They are all just a pain in the ass. I'm driving my lincoln town car and stopping at the next hotel. Accept aging and limitations. Time to grow up.

[@InTheGarageDIY]

Great video Ian! I have the Reckless 40 on my 300 Rally and agree with the pros/cons you mentioned. One thing I did to prevent damage to the plastics is that I added 3M clear vinyl to all the contact points. Seems to work really well and nearly invisible without the luggage mounted.

[@uncommonsense5876]

Smart man ☝️😎, 3M shielding... perfect.

[@SocalRider1754]

I've tried a bunch and IMO the best setup: offroad = rackless soft bags onroad = hard panniers

[@bfyrth]

rackless soft bags for both

[@atarijam]

Rackless look ugly, tacky and most importantly impractical for day to day on road rides. I agree with SocalRider. Rackless makes sense for off road only

[@YG-zv3me]

One of the major issues I ran into with the Aluminum panniers Vs. the soft panniers , is that once the Aluminum panniers are not FULLY packed, whatever content I have inside of them starts bouncing and slushing around inside of them the moment I hit uneven surfaces and dirt trails. Whereas with the Soft panniers they can be cinched down using the external straps which shrinks them down and cancels out any content free play. My solution to that problem is to always keep two 10L ocean packs with an inflation and deflation valve which I can inflate inside the Aluminum panniers on top of its content. This takes up any space gaps and pushes down on the pannier content thus securing it all in place on uneven road surfaces. Additionally these (weatherproof) inflatable ocean packs can be used for storing additional gear externally when the Aluminum panniers are full, or they can be simply rolled up and stowed away so as to not take up any additional space.

[@domenik8339]

After way too much thinking, my friend and I came up with the solution that we would run soft side bags and a smallish locking top box. Definitely not the most aesthetically pleasing, but it allows you to lock valuables like gear and helmet and money and etc to the bike without all the weight of two metal hard panniers, and your soft storage can just be your camping supplies or whatever else that isn't as valuable.

[@heddshot87]

screw it, when you're on the road on long trips all that matters is comfort and safety

[@domenik8339]

@@heddshot87 Exactly.

[@rinna88]

Dear Ian. You rock. As an aspiring Adventure rider I am using all of your videos to prepare myself for picking the right gear / bike. Your content is so comprehensive and presented in a very laid back way. Keep up the great work, your viewers really appreciate what you do! Kind regards from the Netherlands.

[@eriknash8783]

In order to protect the finish of your bodywork when using soft luggage like the "Reckless 80", you can always apply protective film to the body panels which can be peeled off when you sell your bike later on.

[@bearvonsteuben9675]

Nice job, sir, showing the +/- of each style. After 22 yrs on my beloved ‘20 R1150 GS, I just switched over to a ‘23 Triumph Tiger Rally Explorer. I went with the factory hard panniers only because I’m in my late 60s, don’t do much off-road beyond forest roads, and my past experience with Jesse cases on the GS showed me that they will hold up just fine on the occasional tip-over. I only hope that Triumph aluminum can take a punch as well as the Jesse cases did. 🙄 I’m not a fan of lane-splitting, so the width shouldn’t be an issue. I had contemplated soft bags in prepping for a South American trip in the 90s, but decided that the steel was less prone to invasion than soft bags. I was proved correct in my belief. Thank you for your review.

[@elgringoec]

22 years on a '20 R1150 GS... 🤔 It's not the years in your life, but the life in your years!

[@bearvonsteuben9675]

@@elgringoec Indeed!👍

[@RayzGarage]

I prefer Nelson Rigg, "Rigg Gear". An inexpensive alternative to hard bags and ugly support rack systems. I think buying the complete hard bag system is a commitment to more on road traveling then off-road Adventures. Kyle Bradshaw is the Nelson rig ambassador

[@Ahduciekwndnbbbsvvvghhhyyyyy]

I initially got the reckless 80, but I do prefer lockable Alu panniers for on-road trips. Off-road the reckless is great, but travelling solo im so nervous leaving the bike, even for 5-10 min, which limits me quite a bit more than I thought. Simple hings like checking out a sight or going to a grocery store becomes a stress. When I looked it up on KZbin before buying, I learned hard cases were heavy, dangerous, and bulky - but that’s mostly an issue for off-road riders. for on-road trips, thats been an easy trade-off for the convenience I get with the alu cases.

[@zzxx33mh]

You nail it..you summarise the content..much thnk

[@tincho1979]

En mi caso me gusta mucho los equipajes Rackless. Aunque tienen un poco menos de capacidad, y están un poco más sueltos, no me gusta nada ponerle hierros extra a mi moto. Por estética y por peso. Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷

[@standupmoto]

Well done Ian, I’ve ridden adventure bikes for 40 years. You’ve nailed it with explaining the differences here, hard boxes are super convenient but can be very dangerous to your legs off rd. 👍

[@elgringoec]

Not just off-road. I was doing a quick u-turn on a primary road and damn near lodged my boot between the case and roadway!

[@justsomedude445]

@@elgringoec yikes ! hope your ok , yeah ive never had a bike with hard bags , always been more off road focused , so i am quite happy with the newest soft bag set up ive got , tusk olympus , for the $$ i dont think it can be beat

[@elgringoec]

@@justsomedude445 Sounds good. I'm looking to get a mid sized adventure bike and I'll probably go with tusk or mosko. I was lucky enough to react quickly as my leg started to be pulled under and straighten the bike before getting injured. It gave me a scare, though! I got overconfident and kinda forgot to consider I was on a 700# street bike.

[@justsomedude445]

@@elgringoec i thought since i already have spent a bunch more $ than i intended to on this 901 build what the heck id go with those sexy looking Mosko Moto bags but when i went to price them out they sell the bags , the rack and all the attaching plates and hardware all separately like a la cart' so when i priced it out it came to $1800 U.S.D. or so , where the Tusk Olympus for $575 comes with everything and i mean everything even a dozen extra washers and fasteners = complete kit + i ran their bags before and they turned out to be tough stuff maybe just a little heavier and not nearly as good looking but .......

[@elgringoec]

@@justsomedude445 Oh my that's a huge difference, I can definitely see going with the Tusk! That 901 is sweet! I've been trying to get my eyeballs on a T7 since they were released, so far no luck. I really want to ride before committing to buy, but the market isn't there yet. I keep saying maybe soon. At some point dealers will be looking for buyers instead of vice-versa. In the meantime Honda might release the rumored new Transalp and that might catch my fancy. Time will tell...

[@manybikes]

Love it Ian! You missed one… soft luggage that straps to a rack. Way less expensive than quick release rack mounted options.

[@MeerkatADV]

It's still a rack mounted soft pannier. The points are basically identical.

[@dmitrio.193]

@@MeerkatADV sort of....My SW Motech strap on bags are half the weight of Mosco system. And take way longer to attach.

[@MeerkatADV]

@@dmitrio.193 yeah, the Kriegas are about the same. But what he says about rack mounted soft luggage is still accurate.

[@ridenm7748]

Usually more appropriate for us play riders. I normally don't need more than 20l worth of stuff.

[@dominikgeisler2926]

Hi Ian, nice overview. I used the Reckless Revolver on a 5500 km trip, also based on your review back then. I found it doesn't touch my plastic parts at all. I don't put it on the pillion seat but on my topcase base plate since I use a topcase for day to day pyrpose. So at least for those with a similar rack sticking out anyway, the plastic scratching topic may not apply.

[@nuur2825]

I'd be interested in your take on a budget adv setup. I decided on using Andyz strapz with my hiking bag with a rain cover instead of buying panniers just cause I couldn't personally justify how insanely expensive luggage systems were.

[@fallinginthed33p]

A large dry bag with bungee or compression straps would also work. I prefer carrying stuff on top instead of on the sides in case you need to do lane filtering or tackle narrow trails.

[@charleswidmore5458]

That would be a cool project. Not just a budget adv bag setup, but an entire bike and bags setup. I am looking for a really cheap adv bike right now and have been thinking of going with an older KLR because I need a larger bike. Doing a $3,000 or $4,000 complete rig build would be a few episodes I imagine.

[@alelectric2767]

Tusk brand is fair inexpensive compared to other brands.

[@ownyourworld]

I have a givi rack on my old gs and lomo waterproof panniers , they don’t move at stupid speeds and I have brushed them off road with no damage or problems . I know if I had hard metal panniers i would have been off. Easy isn’t always best.

[@moorepower13]

My kriega setup has served me really well. I now consider them my camping luggage and take them on any trip, dirtbike/adv, crusers and an occasional sportbike overnighter. They latch onto any of the bikes in my garage.

[@SimonfromAus]

Love your videos Ian. They have been really, really helpful to me as a relatively new (and older) rider. Cheers

[@mirekkudzia7052]

Thank you for your video. I have soft rackless panniers (LOMO) and to keep them not flat I use inflatable-China-made cheap travel pillows, one for each panier. It is easy to pump them up with your mouth or remover the air by squeezing it with your hands and then to keep them in the panier with your language. And when you have no lagguage the inflated pillows keep your paniers in their designed shape. Works perfectly for me.

[@Yowzoe]

I was thinking something like that while watching, and you provided the specifics! Thank you

[@drewb.9301]

I think something important to note is that while functionally hard luggage may or may not not be all that much harder to take than soft luggage (I think in most cases it's much harder, especially if you don't show up prepared which many thieves don't), perceived security is very important. Theft is generally a crime of opportunity, and the more something looks like it would be a pain in the ass to do (Fussing with the latches on hard luggage vs cutting or just straight up taking soft luggage) the less likely it is to happen to a significant degree. I wouldn't downplay the security of hard luggage, especially when it can be the difference between someone even thinking of stealing it or not bothering.

[@marksmanAlex]

Overall great video! Yet I feel like you haven’t done mosko moto enough justice! Some of the features you showed and presented as overall features for the category (like moskos quick release on the back country or the seperate dry bag and harness on the Rackless) are pretty much unique to Mosko moto and not to other brands. I am personally a fan of Mosko moto and would have liked to see credit for the features that convinced me and many others of the brand

[@TANGORACING]

I am also currently researching into luggage systems for my KTM 890 SMT. I need a min. of 40-60 lt. of capacity in total, with something small and easily accessible for rough day-trips on the top/back. And most importantly it has to be more narrow than the handle bar! Other than that I'd consider anything. Currently I am using a hard top case for easy throughout the day access and a large soft bag strapped before it going from site to site. But I want to get rid of the top case, especially for more off-road oriented day trips. With Mosko I am concerned that getting those dry bags in and out could bother me, as well as I guess they still get dirty when I bring them into a hotel and don't camp.. With Kriega reckless I am afraid I won't like taking the bags on and off (too much dealing with straps too I guess) and also I have to bring them into hotel rooms when they are messed up and dirty, which I think I really don't like. Maybe Kriega bags and using some generic inner bag? Another option might be using a rack with very narrow paniers like Kriega's OS-22s / 32s? I also couldn't find any comparison video in all of youtube comparing Kriega's OS-BASE kits with the Mosko reckless kits - which I was very surprised to find out... Any recommendations for me please?

[@georgemorissette8856]

Where’s your Rally ride vid ! ?

[@josephgeorgeejr7039]

With the rackless soft bags, definitely get some vinyl wrap for your side panels on your bike, vinyl wrap can be easily put on and taken off and wrap is very cheap, i keep vinyl wrap for all kinds of reasons, i think vinyl wrap is very underutilized for motorcycles for lot reasons, even cosmetic reasons

[@AayushPriyam]

Hard metal panniers are definitely not good for off-roading but for usual long journey touring the biggest benefit is that incase of a fall the panniers take the hit, the bike doesn't suffer the damage.

[@kawabungah20]

I'll go with your suggestion to save weight and promote flexibility with the simple, strap-on bag system. I never would have foreseen the safety risk caused by hard bags during probable tip overs in off-pavement adventures. Thanks for that!!

[@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui]

Great review but for solo riding I have a tank bag for valuables, a seat mounted roll bag for everything else. A nearly empty top box for helmet and jacket when I want to leave the bike and go off and explore on foot.

[@DWCBOB]

Great video but jeez these systems are expensive

[@lifesjourneyat50]

Hey nice review as usual - I would say...if you are really doing ADV riding...like BDR's etc...Soft is best way to go...if you're touring the hard cases are probably better....I know it seems simplistic but it's all based on what you laid out in the video...I've just defaulted to the MOSKO Panniers Racked...I ride with some that like the Lone Rider as well which seem to be nice.....keep them coming...great content!!!!

[@buddyringo21]

My Guzzi V85tt came with hard large panniers and I got a crash course literally last Sunday! Turning into a long dirt driveway I encountered soft sand( I had loaded my panniers fairly heavy with groceries from shopping) and as the bike started fishtailing the front tire burrows so I put my foot out to help keep bike upright then BAMMM! My heel locked under the left pannier and down the bike came! I never realized this could be an issue but now after posting a photo and details on a FB ADV group page I’ve had 100’s of comments on the dangers of hard panniers in off road situations. My bike seems to have the factory panniers forward and low as compared to say the Triumph tiger . I have had to rethink my whole approach to riding this bike in any off road terrain. Thank God I didn’t break my ankle or foot thought it felt like I did also my knee suffered some strain. 7 days later I’m walking ok and even took a ride yesterday but still sore . My Guzzi panniers state “ do not exceed 6.1 Kg “ I thought surely they can hold more but I never thought it would make the bike so top heavy especially in sand. Lesson learned! Now I took the top box off to keep my temptations of loading heavy again and soon I will invest in soft panniers for my off road riding. Great video as always! Thanks!😁✌️

[@deepakshirali]

Superb Ian. Neatly side-stepping the soft v/s hard debate and full of facts. I bought my bike from the fact-filled comparisons you do, especially the one about comparative ease of picking up a fallen bike. Now I know what to keep in mind when I go for luggage.

[@savage22bolt32]

Rackless soft bags are in my future, but dangling straps annoy me. With any backpack I've owned, I get to know the equipment, then I trim any strap that hangs out too much. This would be very important for straps hanging around the rear wheel & drive chain.

[@ridenm7748]

I just ziptie them with reusable zipties

[@savage22bolt32]

@@ridenm7748 genius idea! Cheap, light, strong, replaceable.

[@fabienpics]

Very good review. With the year I use hard panniers..soft panniers and now ... ( before I have ktm1290 adv. 2015, R1200GS 2019, ) rackless with the ktm 790 adv 2024( suppose to receive soon) . I use mosko moto on the R1200GS, 35L panniers and the tank bag. Mosko Moto are probably the top on the market... but for the rackless I m gonna use Kriega OS ... just because this is smaller... not because is better..but this Kriega OS system are very well made.. the side bag have 3 choice...18,12, or 6 Litres....

[@Hihellohihellogoodbye]

My ideal, solution would be soft panniers on racks with a hard top box

[@frankenstein3163]

Wear would you put a laptop for milled-mid off-roading on a e-dirt bike ? soft or hard or backpack ? I'm new to bike camping/glamping and wondering if there is such a thing of to may packs/gear ? Ie. tank bags, fork bags(20L), handle bar bag, saddle bags((tusk 74L)After watching this I might want to go with out the brackets and us soft) and tail rack for my 24lbs battery bank. All on my sur-ron E-dirt bike. G-lamping/extra's items are fishing gear, medium laptop, small second monitor, maybe external graphics card/gpu and 300 wat's solar blanket('s). Any thought's/pointers ?

[@PetterIvarsson]

I use rackless because I tend to change bikes often. I also have innerbags in them so it will only be a minute job to take out the things.

[@nawdude4292]

The way they charge for soft sided bags is almost criminal. It's almost like the guy version of women's purses lol

[@justsomedude445]

Tusk Olympus for the cost is by a HUGE margin the best bang vs $ i found , just got back from a smoky week on parts of the WABDR with my son 2 low speed tip overs plenty of scraping on bushes & the like , with the duffle of course i carried twice as much gear as i used or needed as usual but very happy with that and this was my first trip with the new 'Tractive Extreme suspension at both ends and that is a total game changer holey crap that bike is sooooo damn good now

[@mikeyfrompiha]

Kriega OS system for me, clear vinyl wraps to protect the plastics 🙂

[@manuelbritorides]

I have The Reckless 80 3.0 on my T7 and the magnificent GIVI GRT721 on the 300L. For 100€ plus 30€ for 2 20L drybags, it's unbeatable 👌👌!

[@GBeWinginIt]

i'm faced with this decision, which way do i go. Hard versus soft. We pay our money and take our chances.

[@MacawAviculture]

Hi, I am not camping or overnighting. I am interested in a simple system of soft bags to safely carrying a tripod, large digital camera + lenses, and a moderate sized videocamera +lenses for daytime video/photo projects. My bike is a KTM 1090 R. Any suggestions? Thank you!

[@tangoreal9098]

This is an easy choice. Having tried just about every product on the market. Mosco is the clear winner. A little more expensive but worth the money imho. I run the scout panniers and love them. I do not run hard panniers on the trail. This is due to potential leg damage and lack of cushion during a fall. Yes I admit it I still drop on occasion. Besides all of that the stickers on my hard pans are far more valuable than the cost of Mosco scout.

[@Hello-yn9pf]

That CRF Rally is kniw to have a very soft suspension system. Great bike but Honda didn’t engineer the suspension well at all so first mod is $1,000 suspension upgrades which sucks. Might as well get a TransAlp

[@paullavender2537]

Not quite sure how you manage to contort yourself into a position where a leg ends up under your hard pannier when you take a tumble. If you’re going slowly,step off. If you’re going really fast……good luck! Better still get a BMW with a boxer engine. If your Adventure is riding into a big city, soft panniers are an invitation to a scumbag with a sharp knife. Same on a real adventure into dangerous territory. My ideal set up was a big top box with Kriega panniers. BUT a big top box affects handling, I’m a photographer so it’s back to a standard size top box + hard panniers for all my lens and shit. Be pleased to hear any better ideas. Oh, and don’t spend fortunes on gear for that long adventure into the wild that you’re never going to have (I’ve got the gear for a 6 month Patagonian odyssey. Don’t really need it for an on road pootle to a nice hotel in southern France. P

[@michaelfraley4901]

Great video. You confirmed my thoughts on the hard cases, while convenient might hurt if they fall on you off-road. But probably best on street bikes. The rack less system is what I'd use on my 790 R. They'd be perfect on dirt adventures and would hold up much better when you fall over. And the bonus, much narrower, tighter to the bike so improved handling with less chance a 'pucker bush' will snag you and tip you over.

[@wine_country_moto]

Since I had to sell one of my kidneys to purchase my BMW GSA, I’ll use the hard boxes it came with for now. I’ll have plenty of time to shop around for soft luggage while I’m on crutches. Great video.

[@mahadevovnl]

Cool video! I got hard luggage (Honda brand) for my Africa Twin 1100 (2022): Aluminum top, and the plastic side-cases. The reason is simple: I want them for the daily commute and I want them to be sturdy. I got the plastic side-cases because they don't need additional mounts. The aluminum top case is just perfect for the sizes; the plastic alternative was way too large. For offroad riding I would never drive with luggage. I ride offroad for fun, not to go camping or something. Whatever I need would be a bottle of water and some soft gear that would fit into my backpack.

[@paulchambers2296]

Hi, thanks for the video. I have a GS 1250 with rear pannier rails, I do not have the luggage boxes for them and looking at soft bag options! In your opinion would you go for rackless or racked with some adaptor to fit to the GS rails? Cheers. Paul.

[@pacobb1351]

Hi Ian from Spain!! For my KTM 390 Adventure, is better rackless luggage or racked soft panniers? It's for long off road travel. What do you think? Thanks for your videos!!

[@brucewilliams6604]

Hard lockable panniers are a Must when crossing state lines as a secure spot to park the .45 ...and .... they make picking up the bike So much easier each time you drop it.

[@ssmith278]

Nice video, Ian. I was thinking about getting a Mosko Moto Reckless 80 or a Tusk Highland X2 for my KTM 890 Adventure. I believe that if I take off the side panels and install Perunmoto luggage rails and a tube on each side, I'll be able to carry extra fuel and/or tools under the saddle of the luggage. I am not sure if anyone has tried this, but I think it will work.

[@kosmik1]

Hi, whats the background on panniers on motorcycles. Any history? When were they popularized. Any military use?

[@superwout]

Where are all you people riding to? The moon? Who needs such huge amounts of luggage to travel? And yeah just weigh down a bike on it's back. It will increase the joy of riding, huh. I skip on a lot of junk and I rather take 3 4 day trips than 1 10 day trip. That solves the need for weighing down the bike and makes riding easy and cheaper.

[@adr2567]

I’ve been riding 2 years with a tail bag which works fantastically well if you’re solo and don’t mind spending 10 mins a day tying, don’t have to worry about exhaust heat as well. Downside is I can’t store anything valuable and I can’t take a passenger. Now I’m considering a new bike to take my wife on, I’m considering what setup to get. A hard pannier at the back which can double as back support is easy pick. After that it’s a bit complicated, I don’t like the bike being large, wide and heavy so hard side panniers are out. I don’t want to put the pannier holders either but can’t think of how I can use a tail-bag which only has side pods that don’t touch the exhaust.

[@Driftuner]

Kinda surprised you didnt go deeper into the subject of weight. Hard panniers can be super heavy. If you way both side panniers with a topcase and all the mounting hardware necessary, you are looking at well over 20kg of extra weight, before you put anything in them..

[@Shrouded_reaper]

No way I would just take the drybags out and leave the $2000 AUD mosko bags on the bike outside the hotel 💀💀💀

[@tbillyjoeroth]

ANY critique of crash bars for the V-strom would be greatly helpful. I would be very surprised if the ones out there do much good for the bike or the bike rider. Why does a vtwin need protection? It doesn't. The rider and the expensive plastic are another story.

[@fiucik1]

Hard boxes looks awful... just like pretty much every adventure bike...

[@shaafalyemen]

I'm planning to purchase an Africa twin and I looking for the red white and blue. Please help me pick the best fit for the luggage preferably mosko. Thanks

[@shaneheimanjr9178]

I saw a video of a guy in a f800gs crashing about 30mph offroad (little sand patch that was deep all of a sudden) and when he hit the ground the cases flew apart amd lifted the bike up off the ground. After seeing that I've steered away from hard cases. There's no way I want my cases to grab the ground and launch the bike back on top of me. Suffice to say the boxes were destroyed and so were the racks. After falling at 25mph with my soft bags I'll keep those or go rackless. Save the boxes for touring bikes

[@mikec1254]

i always love honest reviews with pros and cons. I have a 2017 KTM 1290 The hard bags are ok if you never go off road or over pack them. The stock mounting system is the weak link of the bags. I bought some soft bags won't name the brand but not a good option they had a good price point but not good for a long trip of 50/50 with camping. So I ponied up for Lone Rider semi-rigid motobags. I already had the racks. I would have to say a great bag easy to mount and locks to the rack also the bag has a lock. I can fit my camping gear in the 31L bags and the rest of my clothes and gear/tools in the 38L bag. For important valuables, I kept the hard top box on my KTM. So this combination works for me. On long trips i like to camp 75% of the time and hotel a few nights. Plus i don't care about lane filtering since i don't live in or near California. Once it becomes nationwide i might be dead . When i did ride in CA a few times I loved it. Thanks for a great review and info

[@augustbrante8117]

i live in Medellín Colombia where driving is a circus on 2 or 4 wheels. Initially hated but now it is fun. I have a big cruiser bike w the hard leather bags. We split cars, go the wrong way on one way roads and we ride on the sidewalk occasionally. I'm going to keep my Bolt and also get a big BMW adventure bike. There is no way you can snake around cars safely with the hard cases. Maybe the one in the back and then soft ones on the sides. Thank you bcz I have been wondering what kind of solution can I find!

[@philiplaurell1163]

That pannier rack for the mosko soft bags is just ridiculously wide. I would never buy that. I would go to a welder and have something slim done bespoke.

[@dtrex392]

In related news, Itchy Boots gets a new stiffer Rally Raid rear spring on her CRF300 Rally to address a sag/load issue today…… @ the end…… kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnfMp5WAprSUadk

[@baldknobby]

Just want to say how good your videos look. The color, contrast, focus all look so good. What cameras and editing software do you use? Or do you "have a guy" that does your video's?