Mosko Moto Backcountry 35L Panniers (bags) vs. Lone Rider Motobags

Which you would choose and why... let us know in the comments below.
How does Lone Rider stack up against Mosko Moto is a question I have been asked a lot this season. The other question why I switched from Mosko backcountry 35L Panniers to the Lone Rider Motobags. In this video we discuss the similarities and differences of the two.

[@BretTkacs]

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[@jncdi1535]

The two of you need to do more videos together. The banter of old friends cannot be beat.

[@marksman303]

Agreed. I especially enjoyed thay.

[@BrunoFernandes-dl3ww]

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[@maximusmiles8435]

I've never seen a comparison test, based on the "Anything you can do, I can do better" theme. Original, effective, and just plain fun. Well done.

[@WolfRichter337]

here i am, watching reviews about some sophisticated luggage systems, knowing full well that i , next time i go on a tour, am just going to strap a backpack to my passengers seat again

[@monunyabidness5949]

That's what I used to do but you've got high weight that's mostly behind the centerline of the rear wheels. Moving from Los Angeles to Dallas on my bike I packed a travel bag placed crosswise on the backseat, a hiking backpack upright on the luggage rack but strapped to the travel bag. and a backpack for my laptop and some smaller items. What a terrible setup. I left work early to get to the bike store and I bought some throwover Nelson Rigg panniers that were only $50 and they made such a difference in my bikes handling. I wasn't touring a lot so that's what I used. Then I started touring a lot. That necessitated a better set up. (The bags would sag into my wheels depending on how that were loaded (I strung a wire from my rear rack to my pegs to keep the bags from trying to occupy the same space as my wheel.) they'd shift, etc.) I bought a used rack and hard bags from an inmate on advrider dot com and that's been my setup since. Worth the upgrade over a backpack.

[@steveh100]

🤣🤣🤣 same here..

[@ryanmalone2681]

@Choose A New Name $600? Try $1100-1200.

[@andreasweber7828]

Lost the left one of my original BMW plastic paneer at 40miles/h, don’t ask why, it crashed into a hard shoulder and a car bumped it back to me. Car took off, fairly damaged in the front. Not only my paneer is still ok and in permanent use but also looks much better now

[@davidbones8947]

I would love to spend 1200 plus mounts for the mosco bags instead ive been using nelson rigg bags $200 made my own mounts two years old still water proof 500 mile offroad in death valley including one fall on Mengle pass in the big boulders if you have never rode DV over a thousand miles of dirt roads

[@hdk6187]

I chose the LoneRider because I didn't like the look of the backing plate that is left on the bike when the Mosko bags are removed. When the LoneRider quick release comes out, there will be no need for a backing plate to remain on the bike. Also, who wants to drag a wet muddy bag into their tent or hotel room. Just remove the clean dry inner waterproof bag and go on your way.

[@davidb9323]

The dry bags look like a pain to stuff back into the shell liner.

[@vatsalkonkani]

Lock system is useless when you can remove the entire system with just a screwdriver 😂

[@BretTkacs]

To true... They do sell a bolt through option or a lock option.

[@mollygrubber]

I'd guess most opportunistic thieves would not know about the 1/4 turn fasteners, but point taken.

[@gerhardvaneeden5615]

I've just watched a review on the latest LoneRider bags, and the bags are properly bolted to the plates, which are then locked to the bike as Paul explained. The video is on their website.

[@바보Queen]

the point is to stop opportunist thieves ... whos just walking by duh, use your brain

[@vinaykhanduri3261]

Mosko all the way baby! Bought mine 4 years ago, most guys in my group have switched to Mosko as well.

[@federicokurth8746]

Noooo!!!, Poor bikes, do not try like that, thosen Queens!

[@ranjanbanerji]

I love the dueling banjos review of these products. Y’all are the Smothers Brothers of bike reviews!

[@christopherbiomass7155]

I loved the intro. I re-watched it an undisclosed number of times. The rest of the video was good too.

[@mattcero1]

Great video gents. Buuuuuuttt, I bought Nelson Rigg Sierra and am LOVING THEM for less than $175. They're waterproof and that's without the liner! I have the liners tossed in there and use them for grocery runs as they charge for bags here in Seattle. I just hand them off to the sacker and Viola! I lower each easily down into the panniers and then bring them right to the kitchen counter when I get home. Oh, and the Nelson Rigg panniers are about 5 pounds per side and yours are the same weight as the hard panniers. I rest my case.

[@Casey_Schmidt]

I've had the Mosko Moto Reckless 40L for a while and I love it. I'd absolutely buy it again.

[@victorkelley5097]

Loved the vid guys, grinning ear to ear hearing about the on trail clips! I've seen what the skydio can do and man it's wicked. Can't wait to see one of my favorite riders use it!

[@thesuperfunkomatic]

Great video. I have both and they are excellent systems for the reasons you mentioned. Both extremely durable, fallproof, and convenient. I wouldn't go back to aluminum panniers after using them. The molle system alone makes things that need to be accessible always available for use - water, fuel, goggles, rain gear, etc. The extra minibags on both systems are essential kit for those.

[@lovelessissimo]

I use the Nelson Rigg system, which is a lot like the Lone Rider, plus it has a lifetime guarantee.

[@mikedietel7776]

went all the way south from Europe to South Africa with the Mosko's, very happy with em. Even left them outside over night with the security straps mounted. Now i have this nice Souvenir, the red dust/dirt/mud is very persistent

[@gordonhenderson1708]

Loved it guys! Happy Sunday to y'all. Only 47 days until Spring.

[@DanielMores]

This was one of the most enjoyable videos in a long time ... that I've watched on youtube! You guys make a great and hilarious team.

[@talesfromthebike]

It's like you could read my mind... I'm looking for new panniers and can't decide between MoskoMoto and LoneRider. This comparison is brilliant! Thanks lads!

[@nodirnurmatov5401]

Nice comparison! I use a lot of mosko staff including 35L backcountry panniers. All is good except for ugly wedges that stand out 90% of riding time when I do not use panniers. I wish they had easily removable buckles.

[@murraehaynes3182]

As usual, great timing...planning on getting soft bags to supplement the hard ones that came on the bike..looking forward to the drone use as I’m considering getting one👍

[@andrewedmond7738]

Great stuff guys, may just have to change out my old hard panniers for the semi-rigid. Great presentation with humour. love it.

[@jaygallamore562]

Good review, informative and entertaining. I acquired the Mosko Backcountry panniers this winter and am looking forward to hitting the road with them in April. Ride safe...

[@sdgoert]

Fun, informative, and also timely and relevant! My brother purchased the Lone Rider system, and I have been eyeing the Mosko Moto bags for head to head comparison. Thanks, guys!

[@kee7678]

How you guys liking each now?

[@zyonsdream]

I’ve got the offset backcountry Mosko panniers and they are simply the best investment I’ve ever made for my Africa Twin. The quick disconnect is seriously one of the best features.

[@michaelwilliams3861]

Hi guys great content as ever. I got the Lone Rider bags, I’m waiting for the quick release system to come. The bags are made of Hypalon, which is incredibly tough, and the bags are collapsable when you take out the inserts.

[@richkeylor787]

Yep. Hypalon is what they use to build white water rafts.

[@stevethomas99100]

Great video. Just picked up a new 40th anniversary GSA bumble bee. I’ll back watching you guys.

[@tonyjshaw]

Excellent comparison of the two pannier systems. I've been looking at these recently. Since watching your video I now prefer the Mosko system due to its lower weight and ease of fitting to the bike.

[@DCUngelled]

One of the best videos ever!!!! Had me rollin this morning while having my coffee!!! Great Review!

[@franks4103]

I use the latest Mosko Moto bags, which include two main new features: (1) an aluminium security bar on the roll-top side of the panniers, and (2) a spring-loaded locking tab on the back side of the panniers which slots into the rugged pannier rack slide-mounts. Both of these are lockable and protect against arbitrarily removing the panniers from the bike and the contents from the panniers themselves. I use the aluminium bar in conjunction with a lockable steel braided security strap (also supplied by Mosko Moto) ... essential here in South Africa. I’m totally happy with my Mosko Moto purchase!

[@watersofthesouth]

Can't wait for a review on the Lone Rider bags. And I think just like many others that you two should do more videos together!

[@nicholaskubilius9260]

Amazing video, Thanks again Bret. Keep the Duo of you two going with other videos. I love my Mosko panniers, and this confirmed I made the right choice. I know Tusk doesn't seem to get interest from BMW, and large ADV bike riders, but I really wish Bret could get a hold of their line up, because lets be honest, there stuff is more than 50% cheaper and I can't imagine it is 50% of the quality. I would guess they are 75% as good of quality. TEST SOME TUSK LUGGAGE!

[@twohouses2259]

Awesome Video. Glad I found your channel actually ( KZbin dumped it in my list..). I was stoked to see what your mate was using as a rack plate, when he removed the Mosko. I second Klaus’s post. Sod paying the cost of the top box. I’d hiff a Military pack on the back and shove a dry sack/s inside ( my fave method ) - or, use an old Motorcycle courier box on the back and fill it with a dry sack/s. I was a Courier for years - worked through several Tropical cyclones and some of the foulest weather imaginable in New Zealand, with, a simple PVC covering around an aluminium frame, which kept everything dry inside ( parcels / documents for delivery ) in some of the worst weather. The top was closed by flipping a larger lid over the “box” which had velcro and overlapped the main box. Simple, effective and cheaper than a few pints at the local.

[@marcrobyn4844]

Love that saying "ill be there when I get there"......

[@ShaftDrive]

I went with the Mosko bags as when I was searching around for the Lone rider bags everybody was having complaints about having them not delivered on time or logistical issues. So Mosko seems to have a great customer base and top notch service. So far I went with the 35 reckless set and the large duffle for the back and my only complaint is I don’t know why I didn’t go with these bags sooner over hard cases. Absolutely adore these.

[@mac46rr]

This vid popped up and boy I loved that intro 😆👍 Good entertaining comparison guys. You have a new subscriber from the UK. 🙂🏍🧡

[@ZeffKingCold]

This comparison I've waiting & just thinking for. Now I can make my decision wisely. Mosko no doubt!

[@danstrausbaugh6430]

I have moscos ... 35L and 25 L but they are expandable to an add 18 L I believe...also I have a cable and a padlock that both locks bags to bike as well as contents in bag ... Win Win ... love them

[@VikingBagsYT]

Good demonstration and explanation of the pros of these bags. Your banter and charisma helped make this video more enjoyable.

[@mikemcallister757]

Thanks for another fun and informative video! It's always great to laugh.

[@knightsofni1999]

Perfect timing on this video Bret! I was just researching the hard and soft bag systems last week. My final choices came down to 4 soft bag brands with similar features. So my final decision was based on best quality for my needs and value for money. The French Moto bags were almost double the price of the Mosko bags and IMO not double the value. Other contenders were the Krieg (sold out at the time), Enduristan Evo (no quick release option), Giant Loop RTW also no quick release option. So in the end I decided that the Mosko was the best value with all the quality and features of the others. And it was the lowest price to boot! On top of that they just released version 2 which has even more improved features that Brets video didn’t include. I’m confident I made the right decision for my budget and needs.

[@patrickcooper9641]

You did! Love my Mosko bags and their quality!

[@TomReinerDE]

Congrats on your new drone. Although... I am convinced that your riding skills paired with your sense of humor alone will make for great videos to come. Better technology is just the icing on the cake, then.

[@BSsss603]

Best comedy I have seen for a while with useful information. Paul is a hoot!

[@michaelahr1]

I could watch you two all day - awesome!

[@jamesmills4393]

Almost went for the Moskos but saw the LoneRiders and changed my mind. Enduristans were the first on my radar and I actually bought the 50l Tornado 2 in mind of buying the Monsoons. Happy with the Tornado though. From what I read the moskos are not waterproof. You need to use an inner bag (correct me if Im wrong) The LoneRiders are waterproof without the inner bag. Also being able to lock them was another reason for my change of heart. That and the various reviews and videos of them being dragged and surviving crashes with next to no damage is what swayed me. But yes.. the price... ouch! Mine will come with the new quick release system (July batch) but the older bags can be retro fitted with it. Also.. Customer service from LoneRider is fantastic and very informative! Same day reply from Anna. That also a huge selling point for me. Looking forward to the long term review.

[@mikemills5144]

Oh yeah? Well I have the Altrider bags, actually they are not that great, Ok but not great. I will get the Mosko Bags for sure next time. I love your final comments by the way, attitude really does matter.

[@noControl556]

I really like this format of product comparison, more entertaining than one guy just rambling on about pros and cons.

[@1988pmh]

Both are great, but i like the lone rider more.

[@geridollison3632]

Thanks you two; you are two of the most informative riders on the web. Question: Very curious to get your thoughts on rackless systems having given them a shot. Seems like a win; reduced weight and price especially mosko 80L rackless. Love the channel. Thanks.

[@kobitwina]

Amazing video. Well, you better try the Enduristan Monsoon Evo. They weight about 2.5 kg on each side, the cost less they are super super super durable and 100% waterproof, no need for inner bag. They also have a quick release system.

[@brad4690]

The Kriega OS series seemed like the best bang for the buck for me. I like the semi rigid bags that are modular.

[@digbrowndirt]

As always, very instructional. Larry the Cable guy adds that extra special touch.

[@UncleWally3]

As a Canadian who loves Georgia (and surrounding areas) I wish you a good 2021 summer. This will be the second year in 16 years I won’t be riding The Smokies, staying in Suches, and telling lies around the campfire. Be safe, be kind to each other!

[@udob.4117]

Great 👍. I had so much fun by watching the most laughing pannier comparison 😂. Thanks an greetings from Germany.

[@IngOehman]

Soft panniers with space left in them (not full), does hinder the bikes fall less. Hindering the bikes fall if often a good thing. The odds is very much for the leg being in front of the panniers, so a hard one can actually save the leg from being squeezed/crushed. A very full soft pannier also protects, but... All in all, I think you are to categoric. You seldomly know exactly what kind of accident you’re going to face when dropping the bike. Often hard panniers protects your legs, rather than being a threat! It depends, and it depends on so many things... I use both soft and hard panniers, depending on the trip. And actually, if I can see an advantage that is really significant with the hard panniers, it is on very long runs (say >10000 km rides) where you need to (or wanna...☺️) bring a lot if stuff, including things that needs protection. Also - they are great dinner chairs and tables! 😆

[@enduromotorradtouren]

Great video. I liked the start where you let both bikes drop. Big eyes for every viewer! Cheerio from Nürnberg/Germany, Günter

[@dmyers3266]

On closing the LoneRider bags. The latch is actually offset so you can slide it into the metal part UNDER the bag. It's a lot cleaner. I think there is a video on it on the LoneRider KZbin page. I have them and love them. Thanks for the great video! (Edit: I did it that way for the first 3 or 4 months until I saw the video)

[@BretTkacs]

Good tip!

[@KentRodgman]

Loved my Mosko Back Country set. 100% would buy again. Sadly had to sell them because I got rid of the big bike and wanted to go rackless on my new 701.

[@fernandob1782]

I would really love a detailed video of the upgrades and modifications that you have done to your bike Bret.

[@BretTkacs]

It's on the list. Paul is going to do the same so I am hoping to campare. Is there any difference between the Touratech suspension and the Tractive? (Tractive makes the Touratech) also the Woody's built wheels vs Dubya built. The wheels are nicer off road and suspension is always a noticable improvement but the combination is amazing. The issue is the price. It is a VERY expensive upgrade.

[@tontonn9995]

Keep up these types of videos!! Thanks

[@cocoscabana]

Great intro.... lol.... and another great video! Love the both of you! Thank you for all you do!

[@jimjim2334]

I have the Lone Rider 31/38L motobags and they are very well built. Install of the Touratech racks and the Lone Rider bags was an out-of-body-experience putting on my Africa Twin.

[@woongtv-naturehealing273]

Motorbag looks too strong. You two are having so much fun. I'm glad to be your best channel friend. Have a nice Wednesday. 👍👍🤙👌💯 👍👍🤙👌💯

[@franciscomariagarciagoya9070]

Another nice set to try is the kriega OS series. I have them in my r1200gs. And I love them

[@ExpeditionaryRanger]

Brilliant start to this video!

[@chipandrews2892]

Great content as always! I have the Mosko Moto bags on both my KTM 950 and also on my 500 EXC-F...I absolutely love them. By the way, you better check with the FAA and see their new rules for Drone usage for commercial use (KZbin counts as a business) They are now requiring you become Licensed after passing a 65 question exam that you have to pay to take....just FYI and SA! Cheers!

[@osimnod]

The back-and-forth oneupsmanship reminded me of "The Four Yorkshiremen" skit. Pre-Monty Python genius! Thanks for the review of the gear, too.

[@RandyPiscione]

I went with the Lone Rider bags. Fretting over the cost when we're paying $20K or so for a bike seems silly. I chose these because I like the semi-rigid aspect. The lack of a quick release is a downside, but since you can just take the interior bag with you, it doesn't really matter. The only reason I like removing the bags is for offroading, not to take them into a hotel or something. And they're working on a quick release. I also prefer the material, which I believe is the same stuff that life rafts are made from but I could be wrong. What finally sold me was a video out there of someone pushing a bike with the bags off the back of a truck and dragging it down a road. There was almost no damage to the bag.

[@theboomerangbiker1966]

Agree 100%, I did the same.

[@timphoto83ec]

They ship with a QR now but would you trust a first gen design???? Wait for them to fine tune it.

[@blacklion79]

Too late, Mosko Reckless it is. I'm waiting for the season to try it, it looks very small for specified volume :-( 70+ liter were enough for my trekking backpack for many years, and 75+ liters of moto luggage looks like I never will be possible to pack my equipment. It is strange!

[@bradb2514]

Great presentation style, you guys!

[@richedwards4651]

Great video guys, I look forward to more of the same.

[@ronanrogers4127]

I’ve had both Mosko and Lone Rider on Adventure bikes, and they’re both good, the Mosko are incredibly tough, they actually require a bit of break in time. But they’re too big for lightweight Adventure. For lightweight ADV I think the Kriega OS-18 is a great enduro style system, with an Ortlieb roll top across the seat between them if you need extra.

[@lequan8766]

is mosko too big for CB500X

[@garnettshortt8580]

All this great, but the issue is remembering where you put what. I just did Houston to Wyoming to Nebraska back to Houston trip using Kriega bags. They worked great, water proof etc. But if I needed something I’d have to look through all the bags to find it. And inevitably what I needed would be at the back of the last bag I checked. It would be awesome to have one big bag that cover the tail and sides. Open with one zip and everything is there to see. Maybe I’m dreaming

[@FredyFerrer]

These are probably the two best brands on the market, just to indicate that today Lone Rider already has the quick mounting and dismounting of suitcases, but this is useful for short trips, since for long trips and OFF ROAD, maybe the old flange system gives me more security. This I will see in time.

[@iSlanderEST]

I have Lone Riders and one time I would've had a real problem not being able to detach them from the bike. I needed to squeeze through a small opening and luckily I didn't carry my gear. Later that day I took the red bag out, but all the stuff I needed for 2 weeks into it, folded the bags and went off. 2 weeks with very minimal gear was kind a frustrating. It was snowing and I had no spear clothing... I needed my camping gear

[@gregnixon4350]

Love it man. Yes you guys do more. Very fun vid.

[@rolandsteinfort9799]

Hey just got a great mug thanks wasn’t expecting that thanks

[@ronaldduke6898]

Great video, very funny and informative. This show gave me the most information, best on the tube. Cheers

[@BretTkacs]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@noControl556]

Agreed I only like hard paniers for more road-focused trips where you are spending a lot of time at hotels or maybe just parked outside restaurants, etc. to prevent thieves from just cutting them open.

[@mikemerrill175]

What I like about BMW’s vario panniers is the lack of a huge rack when you take them off for a day ride. Plus, they lock up easily & with Kathy’s liners make it easy to get your stuff to your room. For hard core off road however, soft bags look to be the ticket.

[@louiebodenstaff6772]

Awesome review and demo gents!

[@DamonBates]

Sorry Brett love your stuff...couldn’t get past 5 min. That’s how long this should have been....tone and humor not withstanding. Thanks for all you do

[@BretTkacs]

It's fun to try different stuff and I try not to be a "review" guy. I get it...

[@jonlongmire]

I would be shocked if the Backcountry 35 bags weigh only 9 pounds as stated at 6:37. I have a set of them and I love them. However, although I haven't weighed them empty I would bet that they weigh MORE than the Touratech aluminum panniers. Great video. Thanks!

[@yair1956]

Tnx for bringing this vid, obviously, they both great solution for caring your gear, however, IMHO, Lone Rider top notch, they are Semi- Rigid, mean they are caring the advantages of both, Soft & Hard Panniers, capacity wise 45L & 38L same as BMW OEM (Unfortunately they downscaled the size, to 38L-31L which make no sense to me ) Molee Webbing, tons of options for attachments, they are lockable, you don't need to schlep them or worry when the bike is unattended, caring to the hotel rooms, well, this argument got very little merit, hotel rooms are, mainly, for Harley Guys, and besides, you just need to pull the waterproofed inner bag out and take only what you need, why should I schlep the whole thing into my hotel room .... they, literally, Undistractable, I met few guys along the ways complaining about the Mosko durability, pointing to open seams, worn straps Etc. My pickup is the 45L-38L Lone Rider, no doubt

[@AmerSheikh]

Nothing better than Mosko Moto. Love all their bags...

[@copperstillsandmash2790]

Great to see Paul again

[@tmbarral664]

I smiled with the double entendre and laugh went Bret said eh eh eh ;oD Nice comic duo, guys. :)

[@betterduck57]

Was looking at the Bumot Extremada softpanniers, because of the quick-release system and I was weighing that against the Lone Rider panniers, without. Price also important: LR bags twice as expensive. Then came the quick release system with the LR panniers: I am taking delivery of a set this week :-)!

[@alargedoug]

Another GREAT video!!! THANKS!!

[@SheenHunter-SeattleFreeze]

Congratulations on your new drone!

[@2radbraunsi864]

Thank you guys for your great comedy explanations✌🏻😂🙌🏻 Recently being exploring the Hungarian TET near the danube river, crossing some overwhelming flooding water and muddy sections of that river🤪✌🏻Of course i flipped my ktm 790adv in a very muddy section and therefore i was so glad being equipped with my sw-motech trax Aluminium panniers✌🏻💪👍 The right pannier was half overed with mud and me & my ktm never been that muddy efore👀🤪😂😂 Never want to imagine how soft panniers may effect on all my gearings inside that pannier🤪🫣👀 For god's sake i could manage to pass that section, cause attitude really matters😉✌🏻✌🏻

[@siners77]

Congratulations on that drone. Wish that was available in India. Have been trying to get it here

[@stevelawrie9115]

Most humorous Bret Tkacs video I've seen.

[@AndreasHegartPetersen]

Great video. I would love to hear your thoughts on the Round The World Panniers from Giant Loop :)

[@kinryu3794]

Loved the fact they actually did actual bike falls on the rack sys especially on big bikes

[@nunovalecardoso]

Great. Hope you keep with the GS.

[@chet3215]

I wish my January was so green. :(

[@jimmylad8529]

Really good vid, i had Ali boxes they were big silly things! They used to fur up too in the winter, much prefer either you have reviewed 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@ClaudioGeo]

Realy enjoyed everytime Paul was taking his bag off... :D

[@progammler]

My Kriega OS32+OS22 weigh 5.2kg (11.5 lbs) and instead of using the mounting plate i just welded on brackets on the standard tube frame which again saves weight and doesn't look as bad when you ride without the bags. Removal is not as fast as moskomoto but still fine for my taste! Only downside is you unlock them from the frame by opening them. So in case you forget to close them properly they can fall off.

[@Rynno1338]

You guys are awesome.... thank you for the video. I'm getting LR :)

[@BretTkacs]

Me too