How To Confidently Defend Yourself In A Disagreement

[@xersys]

Steven says it himself; sometimes you cannot find common ground and the continuing conversation is more for outside observers.

[@SirSpence99]

Indeed. I find it quite interesting how every single one of the examples used in this video for what *not* to do were preceded by the other person doing exactly what Steven did. People may not like it but Steven rarely escalates, he mirrors the person he is talking to. They key is that he doesn't try to hide his snide comments and dishonesty through rhetoric.

[@xersys]

@SirSpence steven typically only reverts to this behaviour when the person he’s interviewing is being combative. Unlike the Russle Brand technique he mentions, these people aren’t looking for validation in steven. Typically, these people would sooner resort to violence than have an earnest discussion if it weren’t for the cameras and armed guards.

[@SirSpence99]

Yep.

[@ShadowCraft1195]

Totally agree, this video seems go be pretty ignorant of who Steven is as a person while preaching to changes someones mind you should build report. Lol

[@SirSpence99]

Actually, I would say the video did a decent job at representing Crowder. It is the people acting like there was no context to the clips that are the problem.

[@d-risky4994]

You can’t change someone’s mind, period. You can only lead them to change their own mind.

[@deanmoriarty6015]

yeah, people love to come to conclusions themselves or “finding something out” by themselves. they’re more likely to change their mind if you present evidence and let them make their own conclusion, rather than telling them “you’re wrong, here’s why”

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

It's been said many times, that the ONLY authority anyone has over us is the authority we GIVE them voluntarily... ...exactly why building a rapport with your "opponent" in a debate is so powerful. ;o)

[@John-uw2je]

@@deanmoriarty6015 Yeah, I think part of it is that people can better believe things if they can understand it. Instead of blindly believing in some idea they get enough evidence to see that it is an idea worth believing in.

[@g.j]

I become open to new ideas when people acknowledge mine or find the solid ground with which I can feel that is genuine.

[@joppekim]

Nah i have plenty of times had my mind changed on the spot. But it is usually topics i don't care so deeply about, so being wrong on a subject is not as embarrassing. Also you earn social points if you are open for new ideas on the spot, people will like you more.

[@wakeful1710]

The fact that he can stay calm at all, is impressive.

[@thatperformer3879]

Rogar Ravenhair Exactly it’s hard to stay civil when such hateful people hate you and think that YOU are the hateful one

[@himurakenshin3879]

Exactly. I think that's because he's a psychopath.

[@aaronbenjamin4581]

@@himurakenshin3879 Psychopaths aren't devoid of emotions, in fact theirs can be really intense. I'm guessing you're willing to label a lot of people you don't like as psychopaths

[@himurakenshin3879]

@@aaronbenjamin4581 I understand psychopaths as emotionally detached and calm people, rational, but amoral and cynical at their core. Just like Steven Crowder, Been Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. Wouldn't you agree?

[@aaronbenjamin4581]

@@himurakenshin3879 Your understanding is off. Psychopaths feel less or no empathy for others, which is far beyond 'emotional detachment'. Emotional detachment is useful for keeping your composure during rational arguments. I would hope you don't see everyone who manages to keep their composure as a psychopath. Also, psychopaths are often not calm or rational, to an extreme. I think you've been inundated with too many hollywood interpretations of the disorder. You did make my case in point about continuing to label others as psychopaths. I don't think you could diagnose any of those 3 people as psychopathic, without exposing the same sort of cynicism and amorality yourself. So no, I don't agree.

[@RossLemon]

I think you're missing the point. The point of "Change My Mind" isn't for Steven to change your mind but for you to change his mind.

[@ohifonlyx33]

that's how he invites people to sit down... but he is not likely to change his mind because he has rationalized all his presuppositions, and now it forces the others to try to rationalize theirs.

[@steffenjensen422]

That is not the point of change my mind

[@ks5526]

Steffen Jensen , umm.... That’s exactly what it is. It’s exactly what is described at the beginning of each episode.

[@ajp1653]

you are correct, the people are supposed to step up and change his mind.

[@steffenjensen422]

You know, I actually watched two segments now and while I didn't have a stopwatch running, I'm pretty sure, Crowder talked more than the average partner. It seemed odd to me. Still, I take back my statement from before.

[@daltonphillips1547]

As a crowder fan I came into this thinking it would be another “let’s bash crowder” video. I was pleasantly surprised to find that me and you agree. Crowder has good days with people and bad ones. Respect.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

He's also done videos on Trump and Hillary that were very unbiased so I wasn't surprised he did good on this one.

[@lazerboy4942]

Same

[@G.DD3SS]

It turns out Crowder is human. I was taken aback when I discovered this.

[@FrogEnjoyer17]

CoC is always incredibly neutral

[@rarecrom]

@@FrogEnjoyer17 ehhhhh

[@leandro6285]

steven has bad and good moments, and lots of people just acknowledge one of the two. It's nice that you show 2 sides

[@resir9807]

That may be true... but the bad overweighs the good so badly, he deserves to be denounced completely and utterly. some people simply do not deserve respect, and a right-wing coke-sponsored pundit who influences millions of people by spreading propaganda and disinformation most of all.

[@alexmga9303]

Resi R so CNN and most of the media should be banned for spreading misinformation?

[@michaelwilliams2473]

@@resir9807 Ummmmm... no. He lists sources, articles and statistics in almost all of his content, something that the vast majority of the content he is proving false almost never does.

[@TJ-kj9ki]

Resi R, you should search up what propaganda means.

[@resir9807]

Alex Mga When CNN spreads misinformation, it's an occasional mistake. Steven Crowder is however arguing from ideology. For the love of god, this is a man who argued that hitler was a socialist! a man who claims the crusades were justified! how can you compare this to CNN?!?

[@discogypsyfish9577]

"go slow" *looks at Ben Shapiro*

[@88fibonaccisequence]

OkayfolksI'mabouttotellyousomefactsandfactsdon'tcareaboutyourfeelingssoifyouwanttolearnhowtheworldreallyworksyou'dbetterlistenupandthefactthatyouwouldevenconsiderinterruptingmewhileIspeakgoesalongwaytowarddemonstratingtheflawsofyourworldview.

[@andreistefan2033]

Ben Shapiro won't change any mind. He's a beast who will hit you with arguments. It's not enough just to prove you're right.

[@obadaal-kateb9186]

@@andreistefan2033 sometimes it's enough for the audience, usually in debates the goal is not to change the opponent mind, but rather the audience's.

[@andreistefan2033]

@@obadaal-kateb9186, Ben Shapiro change the audience mind, not the one who's actually talking. This topic is made exactly for that one person you're talking to...not the audience.

[@woutervangils6673]

I always taught the man to be a disaster in debate. Always goes back to his own stick and never engage with his opponent. He knows what will make the crowd roar. But he isn't debating, just saying what which his followers always agree with. Even the facts and logic he represents are sometimes flawed or just a sole number sentence without context.

[@Andinov02]

A really useful technique to help change someone's mind is to assert total dominance by removing your trousers as Steven demonstrates here 07:36

[@LibertyLocalizer]

Andinov02 Total power move.

[@joelpierce1453]

He was wearing these booty shorts in that segment. Also that one wasn't a debate. Not saying you're wrong, but just clarifying.

[@mollyolly98]

Yeah but there they where just having a simple conversation between friends. He was teasing Ben because he's uncomfortable with male body hahahah

[@laurocoman]

Imagine doing that while T-posing. Total dominace.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Ben doesn't debate people on that show.

[@mattyyoungcloudsart3008]

Crowder only ever breaks rule #3 when he realizes the person he is talking to has no interest of even gaining the smallest amount of new information or understanding, and therefore he seeks to instead highlight the absurdity of their opposing views and attitude to those listening.

[@Sakaki98]

MattyYoungcloudsArt This is definitely something that CoC didn’t talk enough about. If someone is too set in their way(without good reason of course), then sometimes it’s better to cut your losses and start trying to change the minds of the crowd. And more often than not, “dunking” on that person is really effective to the casual observer.

[@mattyyoungcloudsart3008]

@@Sakaki98 Precisely

[@luked2115]

Yes, how dare one be opposed to being "enlightened" when Crowder poses loaded statements such as "Socialism is evil", and posing Universal Healthcare as evil, too. Or when he denies climate change, which is scientific fact.

[@valsgardegaming68]

@@luked2115 He denies significant human involvement in climate change.

[@callahanhanson5890]

Luke D he’s a Skeptic no a denier

[@centerpoint2844]

Flat earthers be watching this vid thinking they're gonna change someone's mind now

[@G.DD3SS]

Nope. I thought he was gonna bash Crowder. But I'm glad to know you're thinking of us. 😊

[@ihatetheantichrist8043]

@@G.DD3SS You're a flat earther?

[@G.DD3SS]

@@ihatetheantichrist8043 Yes, I am.

[@ihatetheantichrist8043]

@@G.DD3SS ok

[@batman2330]

@@ihatetheantichrist8043 negotiations were short You runied my daily 3 am comment section fight reading

[@SuccessWheels]

some NOTES here 1. WHEN IT COMES TO PERSUASION, GO SLOW: When people are offered an information clashes with their belief systems they will often disagree reflexively if they aren’t given time to integrate the new information. 2. BUILDING RAPPORT: If someone doesn’t like you the opt of changing their minds are zero. If you have something positive to share then you don’t need to hold back. Also try to find commonalities between two of you which immediately make them feel you are like them which again make them see your view with less suspicion. 3. DON’T USE INSULTS WHEN ARGUING: If you get to a point like insult have been heard then you no longer changing mind but competing in a dominant scale. Insult aren’t doing anything to change anyone mind and winning an insulting argument isn’t going to get you very far in that department. 4. ATTEMPT TO CONCISELY SUMMARIZE HOW THE OTHER PERSON FEELS: It satisfies a core emotional need for anyone might change their mind, that makes them feel personally validated. Repeating their position back to them, asking for clarification is an effective way to do that. 5. MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU’RE SPEAKING FROM YOUR INDIVIDUAL PERCEPTION OF REALITY: Try not to highlight your opponents concession or contradiction with upward. You want to frame the discussion not as tug of war but search for an agreement where you both contribute. Even you feel like the other person has been a jerk then don’t gloat victory just calmly call out that you agree. My crazy passion is to share summaries like started doing it on my channel with PDF summaries ✌ Alright it's time for me to change my wife's mind that I really love her. Just Kidding she knows I love her 😜

[@edopelawi]

LOL good luck with changing your wife's mind buddy! 😂

[@MindfulMaverick29]

Yo how do I copy paste the text above?

[@Matt_Nor]

Thanks for the summarization

[@SuccessWheels]

Ricardo Pramana Suranta 🤐🤞🤣

[@SuccessWheels]

P J try doing on laptop.

[@Grassy20]

I really liked Steven's segment with the UT professor of hip hop. I think he was a wonderful example of how we should all be. He listened and was able to express himself, and was able to admit when he felt his mind was changing. I really liked him.

[@juliem6696]

I really enjoyed that as well. I knew it was going to be a success when very early the prof mentioned he grew up in the 70's so he didn't really see race. That indicated to me he was either open to having his mind changed, or would be equipped to speak logically about his point of view and maybe soften Crowder's stance. Plus he seemed like a genuinely great person that I would enjoy hanging with.

[@godbearxd]

@abso wep As we should. Wouldn't be caught dead voting for a Reich Winger.

[@godbearxd]

@abso wep "Normal" white people. Everyone that disagrees with me isn't normal. We got all diversity on our side. Your side is majority old white dudes. You're losing more and more ground every time one of these old fuckers kicks the bucket. 😂

[@michaelj.mccall6530]

Grassy20 Raphael was an awesome guest

[@AnthemOfChaos289]

@@godbearxd I wouldn't say that is true based off the statistics and the groups I'm personally in. The average Caucasian by the information available is a Trump supporter as Trump has greater than 50% support across white Demographics in most areas. The problem the DNC has is the over focus on race which by definition is an over focus on division. For someone not in a "minority" class this means they will seem to lack substantive approaches to problems as they're pandering rather then focusing as a problem as a whole. We also have substantial leads in younger non college educated people, as well as a growing percentage of minorities due to the problem solving focus and not racial and division focused mindset. My family members that are African American (on my wifes side) support Trump, but there's friends and co-workers that they hide that fact from religiously. We're all Americans at the end of the day and Trump has made that a tenant of his campaign - Though you wouldn't know it from news/media coverage. Maybe step outside of the Us vs Them and try to get to know us as a whole mate.

[@sankadill]

“Don’t gloat in victory” - proceeds to show Connor with both belts 😂😂😂

[@theyearwas92]

....as an example of what NOT to do

[@tsherman393]

"I apologize.......for absolutely nothing!!" :)

[@evelina787]

Yes it is very wrong to gloat in glory & Self Pr@ise is no pr@ise

[@reversedarwinism534]

Thank god this isn’t just a “Crowder Bashing” video. Big fan of the guy, and although he has some bad arguments, he is very good in debates and discussions for the most part. He just receives stigma due to his right-wing politics.

[@owlblocksdavid4955]

He's also a comedian, which means he crosses many people's line of decency. Doesn't make him a bad person. But it makes me uncomfortable sometimes.

[@HarantheBlue]

"Unless I'm mistaken", what you're saying is it's your opinion he has bad arguments.

[@reversedarwinism534]

Gordon Hawkins yeah, of course it’s my opinion. I agree with everything he says except only abortion. That’s the one thing him and I share a different opinion on.

[@HarantheBlue]

@@reversedarwinism534 That's cool. It was worded as fact. I'd say Crowder's stance on abortion is pretty spot on.

[@reversedarwinism534]

Gordon Hawkins My bad, I didn’t mean to make it sound like fact. To be honest, I’m not quite sure how I feel about abortion. I think it’s only okay if it the birth would kill the mother.

[@feffin9126]

I mainly see the whole "Change My Mind" as a provocation to spark discussion. Obviously a lot of people tend to come up with the wrong mindset and it goes south quickly. But I see a lot of great conversations that come out of these videos, it helps me understand the other side of the topic, the reasonable and rational side of course.

[@ifbpeanut]

*guy talking very seriously about Steven Crowder* Changes to Steven Crowder on Ben Shapiro's Sunday Special... With no pants on... (That's actually a great Sunday Special episode)

[@lasagnasux4934]

One of the best

[@justinpowell3174]

Ben was so uncomfortable. 😂🤣😂

[@willn8664]

probably the only sunday special that could beat that is when Ben had Andrew Yang on.

[@Maddysublime]

None are good

[@mauricetteelizabeth6485]

Maddy Beaulieu Thats okay if you think so!

[@HumansOfVR]

*_I've never thought I'd see stevenn croowder on this channel_*

[@lucasterling]

I agree. This is one reason charlie is so cool. He sees someone who is diversive but has good social skills. And then just focuses on the application of that. I love charlie for this anti partisan approach

[@Judd511]

"This has nothing to do with who is right either morally or logically". That disclaimer is the only Crowder could be featured.

[@scoutzz6282]

@@Judd511 fake news

[@Proclifo]

Only way Crowder would be on this channel is in a "Don't be like this" video, lmao

[@johngarrett3361]

God forbid the channel use someone that is great at what this channel is about. Go find a safe space if youre triggered. Cry it out

[@meganlukes6679]

When someone tries to build a rapport with me I start to feel suspicious

[@josephalbatross5961]

Do friends/coworkers trust you with information about their own personal lives? You shouldn't trust just anyone with details about yourself, but learning to open up to those you can trust is a must for healthy relationships.

[@RacingSnails64]

Megan Lukes it can feel like they're only doing it to change your mind instead of getting closer with you yeah. i think you should analyze if their points are actually good and beneficial and see if they're genuinely trying to help out rather than decieve you

[@coolkid7151]

Megan Lukes of course

[@iamjurell]

You sound like a hoot

[@godbearxd]

Yeah like come on dude. Everyone does it.

[@dovahprime2820]

One nitpick that I noticed in the title of this video: Crowder says that his Change My Mind segments are not to persuade, but to have two people rationalize their arguments. Other than that, no problems with the video, awesome stuff.

[@steffenjensen422]

Yes! And that's part of why they're so effective!

[@joshdeveaux6936]

He says that in a lot of the episodes

[@btf_flotsam478]

When two people are rationalizing their arguments, they are more receptive to being convinced. I mean, it's kinda the name of the game: it's called "Change My Mind".

[@mauricetteelizabeth6485]

I think it’s still an appropriate title. I am so tired of people saying the goal of “change my mind” is to do so literally, when really it’s about rationalizing opinions. But in many cases Steven does change people’s minds, so this stuff does apply.

[@kaineshigaraki5253]

It’s called, “change my mind.” Is changing someone’s mind not persuasion? [x]

[@MalloryNewcomb]

I really like the moments he has where asks about people’s families and stuff because I realized he is sincere. He is wanting to have a conversation and I am amazed at his ease in striking up a conversation with a stranger. I watch his videos a lot and I want to develop that skill of establishing common ground in my own life... and here I am! So thanks for touching on that! Edit: I worked for 2 months at Walt Disney World. I found myself able to do this in ways that surprised even myself. I am very sad to be leaving since I was one of 10,000+ College Program Cast members let go because of COV-ID 19. I was supposed to be there two more months, but this is one positive thing I can take with from this program. Not a goodbye but a see you real soon! Be safe everyone

[@morganewing3399]

Mallory Newcomb i’ve been wanting to do that program for so long (i’m a junior in high school rn) that makes me so sad for u! i hope you get another opportunity!

[@paytonaxtell]

The point of change my mind isn't always to change minds. Sometimes it does but the focus is to rationalize opinions on controversial topics

[@mystbs6612]

i actually really like steven crowder’s segment because it’s rooted in a good idea. unedited, full length conversations, and respectful and civil dialogue. the opposite of mainstream media. love it

[@tomgann9383]

But Crowder DOES edit his videos. I’ve even caught hidden cuts in his videos. Beyond that, he could just NOT SHOW an entire interaction with someone where he gets owned. I’ve seen videos taken by spectators where some college kids make good points and Steven looks bad, but those never seem to make it into Crowder’s videos. Furthermore, Fox News (!!!) once caught Crowder making misleading edits in his videos. Crowder claimed he was assaulted (by an overweight senior citizen no less) at a union protest. Turned out it was mutual combat (kinda initiated by Crowder after he and the other guy were shoved together). Anyway, if FOX NEWS is calling you out for being disingenuous… well, you get the picture.

[@Rickybxxx]

@@tomgann9383 all media at this point is disingenuous lmao

[@jessebout9829]

*Charlie:* "Go slow" *Me watching on 2x speed:*

[@JohnGrahamDoe]

big fax

[@orphic20]

Lol same

[@SkyreeXScalabar]

2.5x here

[@chundygunderson6647]

@@SkyreeXScalabar 2.51x here

[@TheBossManBoss319]

The change my mind section isn’t really about changing people’s minds. It’s more about a peaceful, open, and unedited interviews and dialogues.

[@Sm64wii]

Thanks giorno

[@kja6336]

@@Sm64wii First off, my brother's name is Gavin, he's very bright as I assume you are. I'm sorry to say I have nothing to argue with you about, but we could sit down and have a rationally conversation anytime. Just imagine how good of friends we could be in a few months, just having a good time.

[@Kaiwala]

@@kja6336 w- huh?

[@morgiewthelord8648]

Kaiwala my reaction exactly

[@torrestricks9901]

Lmao he just wants to make some friends

[@centerpoint2844]

0:49 1) When it comes to persuasion, go slow. 2:15 2) Building rapport. 4:16 3) Don't use insults when arguing. 5:50 4) Attempt to concisely summarize how the other person feels. 7:46 5) Make it clear that you're speaking from your individual perception of reality.

[@laelo9]

I'm not always speaking from my individual perception of reality tho😅

[@evelina787]

@@laelo9 i think if you let folk know you are they're more likely to listen you know 🙏

[@Zanroff]

Crowder has gotten a lot better at this. He still slips up, but I think we all would.

[@lauravincent6935]

yee well said

[@zackreynolds21]

The point is they are supposed to try and change HIS mind. He says what he thinks on a topic,then anyone is welcome to sit down and oppose his views.

[@punctuationman334]

Zack Reynolds that’s what he says the point is, but if we’re being honest here they aren’t going to change his mind. He already rationalized his views, and he just goes out and debates people for KZbin content.

[@zackreynolds21]

No,if we’re being honest,we will all admit that we have our minds made up 99.9% when we enter any conversational debate. It doesn’t mean we won’t listen. What do you expect him to do?...show up with little to no information to back up his opinions and then simply take the word of anyone who sits down with him as undeniable fact?? Be REASONABLE

[@punctuationman334]

Zack Reynolds I’m just being logical here. I doubt he would change his mind on anything more than minor issues because he’s a conservative content creator and has to appeal to his audiences if he wants revenue.

[@Sinrix]

Baby Blue lol conservatives can have their minds changed, but you have to know who you are up against and try to figure out how to use what they believe in, in favor of your own views

[@punctuationman334]

Inri I’m not saying they can’t, my point was that they need a audience that they need to appeal to, crowder has his. Liberals would be the same thing.

[@sojourner.42]

I like crowders change my mind series. He's not perfect but it's a step in a good direction for discourse.

[@Tex_Killer]

Thats the whole point! Hes not a scientist or an academic he is an average joe. Sorry for my english.

[@pgl79]

He definitely does a better job on some videos than others though. I've seen him do an excellent job at building rapport in some cases but then go on the attack in others, usually when the other person is actually making some good points...

[@justaskin8523]

@@pgl79 I've seen him go "on the attack" really only when the other person is espousing falsehoods or "old wives' tales". And even then, I see it as very mild. He has never "gone after" somebody unless that person has gone after him first.

[@pgl79]

@@justaskin8523 That's fine, but I have seen the opposite (not that I've watched one of his videos for a very long time). All part of life's rich tapestry ✌️

[@opedromagico]

To a magician rapport is useless? I’m professional magician and the first thing I do is establishing rapport. You can get people amazed or laughing if they dislike you.

[@whistlingdog1007]

I heard that too, only thing I can think of is that he said Logician rather than magician.

[@rainbowraven1038]

It's DEFINITELY wrong, but honestly it was illogical to add to begin with, I think. Where was the follow up illuminating the purpose of the initial mention?

[@vickielawson3114]

Yeah, it had to have been logician. By the way, I'm a magician, too (although not professional yet - I love Jay Sankey).

[@DTux5249]

Yeah, that's a bit wrong. No rapport, no suspension of disbelief, no trust, no comfort, no fun. Completely ruins it

[@HerotPM]

Pedro, the alliance of magicians does not appreciate the keys to our illusions being shared.

[@cmcblob9950]

The premise of Change My Mind is for people to have a chance to change his mind not the other way around.

[@joshdeveaux6936]

The premise is for their stances on the subject to be rationalized as Steven mentions multiple times

[@ninjadave3616]

C McBlob not really. The point is for him to change the other peoples minds and he has almost no intention in actually changing his mind on a topic. Think about it, he brings data with him to prove his point while the person that is supposed to change his mind doesn’t have anything with them, he holds the microphone so he gets control of the conversation and a lot more things that show that the point isn’t to change peoples minds but to make people believe what he believes

[@joshdeveaux6936]

ninja Dave clearly you don’t watch them. I could link you multiple videos where he explicitly explains the point if you want

[@Ravenous]

@@ninjadave3616 The point of change my mind isn't debatable. He says it in almost EVERY video. The point is to rationalize ones beliefs in hopes that people can come to agreement. He has actually had HIS mind changed. He comes prepared because that's what you should do.. You shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion if you aren't educated on what you are speaking about.

[@deewdrops]

and the premise of this video is to explain how to change someone's mind with Crowder's Change My Mind KZbin segment as an example.

[@scottcarroll9201]

"There is always a chance that you are mistaken." Man, if both sides of the political divide could take this to heart that would be great. One side needs to learn this lesson more than the other but I won't name them. I'll just let you fill in the blank.

[@scottcarroll9201]

@Josef K There is always a chance that you are mistaken.

[@rainpooper7088]

Scott Carroll Nah, it’s just that with one side, you’re less allowed to question it than with the other, but once the tables turn and the general lean changes, the exact same thing will be true for the other side. I‘d say they have to consider it equally.

[@steffenjensen422]

@Josef K I have met conservatives with rational minds. It seems to me you are generalizing too much. Granted, I'm from Germany, maybe conservatives are different over here.

[@thog8385]

@Josef K you come off just as rude and ignorant than majority of the left leaning people I know. Scott was talking about how every side has their flaws, which I agree. And then you respond with pure negativity and bs. You are the problem.

[@dustinkulsziski7327]

​@Josef K I spoke to an NCO in charge of a Critical Thinking course on Fort Carson. I took the course myself. There was no political criteria on the course. But he said that in the exit survey, over 90 percent of the people who failed self identified as left leaning. I took it with a grain of salt. But I'll still take his word over yours.

[@milorca4412]

Time to learn about something I shall never do: socialise

[@trappedcat3615]

This is useful in many other way. I'm very anti-social, but I have to communicate to a lot of clients, use compassion w/logic, and defend ideas on the job.

[@milorca4412]

Perhaps I’ll start using this when I get a job then...

[@quaaludes9145]

Ah, the snowflake.

[@outsideworld76]

@@quaaludes9145 or could simply be an introvert.

[@abraham2217]

Grow some balls 🏀 brother!

[@lilconfused686]

Despite not being a fan of the subject at hand, I respect you for engaging with Crowder's material despite knowing it would cause some backlash.

[@xzonia1]

Same. I've tried to watch Steven Crowder's videos in the past, but he can be so obnoxious that I could not continue watching. I don't think I've ever finished a video of his, even when I agreed with whatever stance he was taking. I do not feel he debates well, but I appreciated this video discussing the merits and errors of this guy's approach when he attempts to debate. Steven is a good study in what not to do.

[@arnogerbil]

@@xzonia1 I believe this video showed quite a few more things that Steven does correctly. Though I can certainly agree he can become obnoxious when he engages with a certain type of person, I very often find (especially in his Change My Mind videos) that he conducts himself well for the majority of people, often he only becomes more argumentative (as opposed to conversational) when the other person becomes aggressive and only very rarely does he become rude for no apparent reason (such as the first debate in "Socialism is Evil"). Steven is an excellent study in both what to do and what not to do, he makes mistakes as many people do, but he certainly does know how to carry a conversation with someone he fundamentally disagree with as long as the other person is willing to engage productively (as with the first debate in "There are only 2 Genders", with the redheaded male).

[@xzonia1]

@@arnogerbil I'm glad you get enjoy his videos.

[@ShadowCraft1195]

@@arnogerbil the first debate he didn't get rude for no reason thi

[@dutchman55]

Two Bags crowder is awesome!

[@terminalcreature1560]

The premise is that he's challenging them to change his mind. Him changing their minds take a back seat. Semantics with this video, but ya know. Also, he very rarely gets aggressive in his conversations. Even when they come in hot or get personal, he typically remains civil.

[@beckyparkes7182]

Hey @CharismaOnCommand, I would just like to say, as a conservative fan, I'd really like to thank you for including some conservative or centre-right leaning public figures in your vids, regardless of your personal politics. It's refreshing to see us not represented as willfully ignorant or hateful bigots in the media, but as real people with real ideas. Love your stuff, man!

[@NenaLavonne]

Just a genuine thank you for these incredible and valuable videos. This is an exceptional channel. Wishing you the absolute best in the new decade!

[@ElenasDad]

I just left pornhub for this, I'm trying to become a more productive and better person

[@JStorm90TV]

😆😆😆😆

[@MegaRay0]

Go finish and come back later

[@productiveyou7069]

Well done!

[@gligurr]

this is a weird thing to bust a nut to. i dont judge though i have nutted to much weirder

[@DeathToDrugUsers21]

Once a coomer always a coomer. You'll be back

[@sandenium]

"Charisma on command can't debate with Steven crowder" CHANGE MY MIND

[@racewiththefalcons1]

The best thing to say is "Are you open to changing your mind on this topic?", and if they say yes, ask "What would change your mind?", and then give them that thing. They won't like it, but you will have fulfilled _their_ requirements to changing their mind. If they don't accept your answers, know that you have won the argument.

[@markdaniel8740]

The title of Crowders segment is a great first step. He is not asking somebody to defend their opinion, he invited them to challenge his. When they fail to change his mind, theirs is occasionally changed.

[@whatsinaname691]

This was basically just an Aristotelian lecture on why Ethos is the most persuasive form of rhetoric.

[@laurocoman]

Pathos is not that far behind.

[@skycastrum5803]

They’re both just barriers to logos. Not to say that they aren’t important. Barriers, after all, are things which need to be addressed. But, as certain people seem so happy to point out in regards to feelings, facts are still facts. Of course, persuasiveness is not the same as truthfulness, and the topic of this video is the former.

[@LordMyron09]

I always thought that the best ones made use of all three: the logical, the emotional, and the ethical. People with high positions/degrees have frequently been wrong (let us never forget the dozens of physicians who swore that nicotine was not addictive), logical arguments can be horrendous in their implications (meaning no one will accept them), and emotional pleas can frequently be used for the wrong reasons (think of every poorly understood moral panic ever). Ergo, the best approach would seem to be one that has elements of all three, much like how the video more or less goes over...

[@osse1n]

The best way to change people’s mind is to lead by example and inspire through succeeding by living the way you teach.

[@marksilla8276]

Hello, we meet again

[@osse1n]

@@marksilla8276 Hey. You should join me.

[@boo-leeproductionsinc3501]

You are correct sir.

[@xzonia1]

Exactly

[@orchidsrising7910]

I love when someone changes my mind. A lightbulb flashes through my mind. I think we should aim towards higher understanding always

[@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681]

Its not about who is right in the beginning. Only thing that matters, is that you are closer to the truth in the end.

[@orchidsrising7910]

Ribbitgoesthedog Excellently put 💗

[@annmariemarx7655]

Agreed! I love when someone shares their perspective & POOF! "MindBlown!" Pretty intense & intimate way to connect. raar

[@deannatale8349]

7:37 😂😂😂 he put the clip of Crowder not wearing pants on Ben’s Sunday show in! Love that

[@ReallyUnexplainable]

That was a damn awkward conversation for Ben xD

[@WeAreAllWittness]

Crowder and his change my mind debates has gotten better and much more civil.

[@resir9807]

cuz his daddy billionaires paying him allowed it

[@matt-dw]

Just want to say thank you for everything this channel does - as someone who struggles with verbal communication (autism) these tutorials are helping me tremendously.

[@evelina787]

Gid bless you M@tt Thnks for opening up n sh@ring your experiences God bless you I suffer with Autism too, so i understnd👍🙏

[@aperson1069]

I love Crowder, and I also love how you made your video. You didn’t bring politics into it, you just want to explain the do’s and don’ts in what he does. Great job!

[@smokingunstudios6474]

Those segments aren’t really about changing Stevens mind or the other persons mind it’s more so that members of the audience have two sides of the argument to look at unedited

[@josephalbatross5961]

If you are not presenting your side of an argument persuasively, you are doing nothing of the sort.

[@meginna8354]

they ofen change their mind when they get exposed to the facts

[@dutchman55]

One side is typically correct though. Lmao

[@pricesymonej]

for the example with the back professor, it wasn't so much crowders ability to change someones mind as it was the professor openness and ability to accept change and more information. He didn't let his ego get in the way.

[@matthewstevenson7689]

Trey Gowdy does a fantastic speech on the art of persuasion that really reiterates a lot of these points and is definitely worth a listen. It is often known as "The Pin Drop" speech. He really hits home that the most persuasive aspect of ANY argument is compassion, and letting that other person know that you care about them.

[@joshbodine5029]

You’re points are really good. Steven has his great moments and also falls short. However, the purpose of change my mind is I get people to think about and rationalize their position.

[@suagy7492]

My dad always told me that you cannot change someone's mind, the only thing you can do is make the other one understand your point of view so that they can relate to why you have that opinion.

[@juiuice]

But there's handful of moments in my life where my mind's been changed before...?

[@suagy7492]

@@juiuice yes, because the other person made you see his point of view, and you changed your mind based on that. Ignorant people would've just ignored the other opinion

[@WilliamCooper2005]

Exactly. I believe it’s much better to rationalise rather than to argue.

[@kalfanalatallah5222]

After watching this video, I’m pretty amazed at how good Steven Crowder is at conversations. Effective dialogue is really hard. The fact that this video only pointed out a couple of mistakes Crowder did as opposed to several things he did right... pretty humbling.

[@joelpierce1453]

And honestly the times where it shows what *not* to do were times when Steven had already recognized the other person as a lost cause and had changed his approach. He had stopped trying to change their minds by that point in the conversation.

[@billymc7853]

In online debates I have found it critical to not insult people. No matter how rude, how many people gang up on you, or how much your pride is hurting. Stay focused on the issue. Stay objective. Force them to confront facts. "You don't prove your point until you disprove theirs." and another favorite quote is "Slander is the tool of the person who has lost the argument." Pride yourself on not being right but rather on finding and adhering to the truth. Any other intention is to inflate your pride

[@poego6045]

I do think something that should be noted is that these arguments and discussions Steven has shouldn't be taken as a catch all for regular discussions and arguments. For MANY people, you're going to be having these discussions one on one, at most in front of family members as an audience (who probably don't even want to get involved) or in friend groups or clubs. I think that there is a POWERFUL peer pressure and performance dynamic involved with these discussions. If you're being filmed, and witnessed by LARGE crowds, that's instantly going to make you extremely careful with your points if you're not used to it, whereas Steven goes in with an upper hand based on his confidence with the situation alone. Admittedly, it IS the person whose challenging him, but I do think that these factors could have an effect on the dynamics, as someone might not be willing to call him out for fear of being embarrassed on TV or something or possibly bullied (considering Steven's fanbase). I'm a STAUNCH supporter or socialism, but I would very likely NOT be able to hold my own in an argument/discussion with him based on factors such as these. I DO think this is more useful advice for those who aren't camera shy, or handle this kind of pressure well, or who are looking for debate club advice for example.

[@duchi882]

*Mayonnaise is an Instrument* _CHANGE MY MIND_

[@WilliamCooper2005]

Duchi i see your position, how are you today?

[@meganlukes6679]

Protons

[@timothyserpette9403]

Dredging up an old meme here... It's also a gender.

[@emiliochavez5121]

I believe mayonnaise is NOT an instrument because it’s too busy being a condiment. Can we both agree on that?

[@ABRAXAS829]

can it make a sound repeatedly? Yes= instrument no=not instrument can Mayonnaise make sound repeatedly? yes, therefore Instrument. Is this your argument? I'm not misrepresenting you am I?

[@thaizahonorato]

This is by far one of my favorite KZbin channels mainly because I'm into Psychology. You guys do a great job🙂

[@matthewchandler2647]

The brilliance of Steven’s Change My Mind segment is that spectators are free to change their own minds without the vulnerability of losing face in debate

[@evelina787]

Yes Mtthew Chndler Agree completely

[@BotNumber13]

It’s not about changing the mind of the person you are debating. It’s about bringing to your side those amongst the audience who are on the fence.

[@CG87343]

Crowder’s “Change my Mind” segments are some of my favorites. I’m amazed at how calm he’s been especially when people are screaming in his face. There is a time when you have to admit that there are some people you just can’t reach, and know when to drop the conversation and walk away because sometimes walking away is your best course of action.

[@colind7678]

That's his schtick.

[@nesano4735]

My man! You finally did a (kind of) Steven Crowder analysis! Awesome.

[@walterhigo7658]

IMPORTANT POIINT: Steven Crowder's objective here IS NOT to "Change Minds", but rather to PUBLICLY DEBUNK what he considers to be weak arguments on an specific issue.

[@josephalbatross5961]

There are persuasive and unpersuasive ways to presenting one's own argument. It's best practice to opt for the most persuasive ways to go about whatever your goal is. Love Crowder, and all he does to be as persuasive as possible as often as possible.

[@ilanouh]

It is also to help students (and people in general) to rationalize their arguments. If you come to someone screaming, with just feelings to back up what you're trying to say, you'll only make your side look more ridiculous

[@justinbosley692]

His goal is really to change their minds, especially after they realize how irrational their opinions are.

[@walterhigo7658]

@@justinbosley692 Changing their Minds is a desired outcome but NOT A GOAL. The series is called Change MY mind.

[@garetc7706]

He isn’t trying to change the other persons mind. He is asking for people to voice their opinion and change his.

[@sooz5703]

True, but it is still useful for showing the good and bad of persuasion :D

[@samuelbellamy2070]

Nonetheless, he usually does end up more changing other people's mind than the other way around. Usually because he's the better prepared one (and many of the students confronted are more concerned about shaming him).

[@drsch]

Every time I've seen Steven insult someone, it's after the point where the person he is speaking with has no interest in a discussion but are just there to insult and offend. Remember, Steven isn't there to change anyone's mind. He's there to give people an opportunity to explain their position.

[@jefflace4949]

"But you still didn't convince me." "But I'm not after you, I'm after them." (Motions to crowd of people). - Thank You for Smoking Yes, the best result is if you can get someone to change their view on TV... but only because it furthers your true goal of convincing the masses. That is Crowder's true goal. Make no mistake, I'm not criticizing Crowder for this. It's actually the pragmatic approach in my opinion and the approach I would take if I were in his shoes.

[@reginaldsimms199]

-ask clarifying questions -insults polarizes and makes folk irrationally cling harder to their beliefs -be specific and only use generalizations when referencing statistics; qualifiers -make people rationalize their arguments by walking them through the logic of them -passive language leaves your statements open for doubt

[@michaelj.mccall6530]

I run a business and head up its sales team. This was so unbelievably helpful! Thank you Charlie!!

[@michaelj.mccall6530]

Something I realize about crowder, which you see in CMM and his show, he is always grateful. Even when he argues or disagrees (as long as his guest remains civil) he always makes a point to thank people for their time.

[@genesisrail]

I like how your videos are apolitical and unbiased no matter who you talk about

[@donovanhays]

Always remember kids: Just because someone won an argument doesn't mean they are correct. If you feel you are fundamentally correct but you are unable to communicate that effectively than you are at a disadvantage. As a business consultant I see it happen all the time in meetings, someone gets steam rolled by a more charismatic and assertive person. Not only can the 1 on 1 argument be "won" by the person in the wrong, that charismatic person can convince the rest of the people in the meeting that the wrong thing is the right thing to do. Same thing happens in politics and social debates.

[@spenser9908]

Steven Crowder is a legend.

[@alexanderx3554]

This channel is dope. Could you do a breakdown of How To Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie? I think you've mentioned him before, his book is fundamental to effective communication.

[@kbball40]

Alexander X ^^ pls do this!!!

[@Unknown2Yoo]

I always refer to that book as "How to Kiss Up and Manipulate People". I was so excited to read it because of the high praise, but I was extremely disappointed when that's all it seemed. I kept a list of the main points and just moved on.

[@mrgaudy1954]

Unknown2Yoo Doesn’t that still make the book useful in some way? 7 habits of extremely effective people (or whatever it’s called) contains some pseudo intellectual religious shite but I still found it to be helpful in other ways.

[@ARZiehm]

The problem with Dale’s book is that it’s so commonly read that’s it’s obvious when anyone is employing its content. For example, when someone overly drops your name in convo, you aren’t flattered, you just roll your eyes and think “Ah, so you read the book too 🙄”

[@alexanderx3554]

@@Unknown2Yoo Your point of view is interesting, and I think you are right depending on the person, corporation or governments intention. In this video Crowder uses the techniques in this book constantly, yet also violates principle too. Let me ask you, what specifically did you read in the book that made you arrive at that conclusions? What was a point in the book that particularly felt manipulative?

[@gabadaba5436]

There are two things that are important to remember with Crower: Change My Mind is an opportunity for two opposing arguments to rationalize their arguments; its an opportunity for people to try to change Crowder's mind, not the other way around. Secondly, he's basically performing for an audience, which influences his actions and causes him to do more showman-like things. For those reasons, using Crowder as an example for what to do and what not to do when debating someone doesn't really work.

[@JEST3R_]

One thing to keep in mind as to why Crowder has a tendency to absolutely dominate these arguments is he comes to each of these having done days, possibly weeks of research beforehand, and these people were going about their day-to-day and get pulled in off the street with very little preparation. Say what you want about what side you're on, but Crowder is smart, and he gives himself the advantage

[@johnr3007]

Honestly, I have always viewed Chang my mind about creating constructive conversation vs changing a persons mind

[@loginusername7]

Crowder is an absolute Boss. Not perfect, but definitely one of the good guys.

That professor looked fairly young with an ancient wizard beard!

[@Hatsune_Mikuu]

That guy in the backround made a “sub 2 pewdiepie” sign lmao (2:45)

[@Osiris_fc]

I like change my mind. You get to find out what both sides actually think without relying on the media to tell you what both sides think.

[@TinfoilHatWearer]

I'm 8 minutes in.. And I'm praying that this videos creator touches on the one thing I haven't heard yet. Which is.... Don't always assume the person you are speaking to, is rational, or in a rational state of mind. If it is a highly charged topic, in this day and age, the person you are speaking to who SEEMS rational, could actually just be a good actor.

[@wastelandlegocheem]

I guess so. But giving them the benefit of a doubt that they can be mature and adult for 20 minutes.

[@mathieul4303]

I love Steven Crowder

[@Raf_Avila]

Steven Crowder is the man!

[@ajiththomas2465]

Yeah, when his daddy gives him permission to be, lol.

[@HueJanus69]

Ajith Thomas what lol?

[@vikeightEsix]

@@ajiththomas2465 ???

[@1997lordofdoom]

The man at spreading propaganda for his billionaire daddies the Koch brothers?

[@resir9807]

@@1997lordofdoom brother where were you when I was holding off the endless forces of the incel crowder supporters in the top comments? XD

[@pyrobreather1]

I love how you had that one scene from God's Not Dead in the background. That movie is a perfect example of what not to do.

[@Azhureus]

Respect and understanding between two people is the best way to have a conversation, it needs to be mutual tho !

[@BreadVanVleet]

It's a lot harder to use his techniques in standard debates or arguments. Consider that in his debates he is acting as both a side of the argument and as a mediator which allows him to set himself up to be heard without interruption. He always sets the criteria for others to respond to which gives him complete control over the interaction. This isn't realistic for normal conversation.

[@vinniedavies7047]

I have always felt like even if things get heated in an argument and insults start being used it can still have an effect to change their minds, just not within that argument. At least in my experience when I have been made to look a fool in an argument it pushes me to really rethink my view after the argument, and ultimately changes my perspective for future arguments, even if I didn't want to concede anything in the first place.

[@JPelus]

Steven offers people to change HIS mind. Not to change others' mind.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Changing someone's mind works better if you butter them up first, like what a teen does, to get what they want from their parent.

[@Mixinnitup]

People are more likely to be on the side of someone they favor

[@shotgunsam23]

The thing I respect about crowder is that he is never rude to anyone that isn’t rude to him. Most of the time if someone is rude to him he stays calm.

[@kozmnavt5158]

The point of the series isn’t to actually change someone’s mind. The “Change My Mind” title is just a catchy name that draws your attention. It’s purpose is to encourage civil dialogue between 2 people of differing mindsets. Being honest you aren’t going to just change someone’s mindset with one sit down conversation but it’s to make you think to find common ground. I think it’s a great series overall despite its ups and downs.

[@meritholdingllc123]

That was quite a disclaimer at the start. It's a lot easier to convince someone of your point when you are correct as Crowder often is.

[@karlrosenberg1353]

Who else wants to see these guys cover the insult argument and it’s effectiveness?

[@Demon_Lord_Coom]

There's no changing my mother's mind

[@ernstgottschalk8023]

The Hitchslaps and Shapiro compilations are prime examples of the "dominance" idea. The idea that you have to "destroy" or "oblitirate" someone's argument or worldview etc. This for me is our great flaw in communicating with each other.

[@taxidriver2222]

I believe what Steven does could actually solve most of the world's issues; two people with unlike opinions sit down and rationalize their opinions while being civil. Just because we have unlike opinions doesn't mean we have to be enemies, and it shouldn't matter who scores points regardless.

[@LittleGreenPearl]

My dad is immuned to most of these tactics.

[@nikithanayaer6302]

most dads are

[@FreakazoidRobots]

I'm curious. How does he respond when you try those steps?

[@josharntt]

@VH 78 Older people are often far more influenced by religion, that's a major factor. "You'll go to hell if you do X thing", makes everything harder.

[@tjgallagher7631]

What do you mean? That he's less likely to discuss an issue or is just not going to change his mind, unless it agrees with his own? Everyone should be open to discussion, it shows you have an open mind. Liberals back in the 60s got their way when it came to discussing socialist ideology on campus but once it became their ideology, of choice, they denied anyone else's point of view that was contrary to their own, and now we all, who aren't indoctrinated socialists, can see where that got us! On the very brink of losing our freedoms, borders, and country!

[@danielb270]

Note that there could be a second part to it: how to convince audience through debate (student hot slammed with “don’t”s because he was working for the audience

[@sharknato1245]

"Go Slow" *Smirks in ben shapiro*

[@steveclarke2585]

I didn't realise that you've showed me on your advert that I am already that man...Thank you so much..you have changed my thinking and my mind set...bless you for your inspiration....

[@Tex_Killer]

The point of it isn't to make someone agree with you because you are charismatic, but to RATIONALIZE one's opinion on controversial topics. Otherwise people wont keep strong opinions if they can't find a good REASON for it. Sorry aout my english I'm still learning.