How To Convert A Cast Iron Briggs Engine To An Electronic Ignition - with Taryl

[@brianbaird6528]

I have a 1970 Sears Super Suburban garden tractor with the original 14 HP cast iron engine. The old mag was weak and the mechanism that opens the points was so worn that the points gap could not be adjusted more than about .014 inches. Should be .020 inches. I decided to buy the electronic mag these guys used ( the Briggs and Stratton part 398811) and I put it in and it started cold with manual rope start. These guys taught me a valuable lesson. And the very experienced small engine mechanic in my town told me there was no way to convert the cast iron engine to electronic ignition without mailing the flywheel back to Briggs to have the magnet reversed (and possibly rejected for some tiny little insignificant crack). Wait til I see him again!

[@latestplague3762]

Just rewatched this for the hell of it. After yrs now of watching Taryl's videos I have to say he's the most knowledgeable small engine guy I have ever seen and has more common sense than most aswell. He will MAKE a way for something to work when others would be lost.

[@jameshedrick6839]

I know what you mean. Most of what i know how to do on small engines is from watching all of Taryl's videos

[@kellybergin1532]

We speak the same language

[@saulgoodmanfromthehittvsho1314]

I have a 1970 Sears Suburban 12 myself, I restored it 7 years ago, and I'm going to restore it again shortly. I love it, it's my fricking best friend, I'm never letting that tractor go!

[@rmiller6483]

One of these days I would love to meet all 3 of the grass rats. These guys need their own reality lawnmower show. I think it would do extremely well... awesome video as always grass rats..👍👍👍

[@scrappysgarage7404]

Same here

[@paulg444]

I think they do own their own reality lawnmower show !

[@hakimmic]

I bout one of them electronic ignition modules many years ago to convert my Gilson and Montgomery Words tractors from the 1960's and early 1970's and it didn't work. So I went back to the points and condenser ,,,,,,,,, Now I know why it didn't work . I'm still using all those tractors today and they're still points and condensers in them. Seeing your video now, you got me thinking maybe I Should try it again. Then again,,, It ain't a big deal to to change or clean and adjust the points every few years. Really like your videos, Thanks Taryl. Ya'll enjoy yer Easter.

[@lavernavirden5784]

They’ll and the boys really know their s**t and I don’t miss any of their videos, I love this stuff and I learn so much from you guys. Thank you grass rats garage for all your hard work and funny skits. You Guys are by far my favorite KZbin channel. Keep them coming guys your killing it. Greg

[@haywiremechanic]

Thanks, this information helped me a lot with my 1979 B&S cast iron 10HP 243xxx engine. With the new style coil installed "wrong" side out as you did, I finally have a good hot reliable blue spark.

[@chatrkat]

Excellent tip! Now there’s my dinner. Thanks Taryl.

[@stever5636]

So glad you made this video Taryl!! My ‘73 13 hp coil STB and i was down and out til i watched this video. Absolutely brilliant and had coil swapped out with $13 electronic and running great in no time. Thanks so much and i love your videos!! Keep em comn!

[@paulcarvalho1608]

Thank you so much for making this video. It saved my old Simplicity from the junkyard. The backward coil install approach worked best for me.

[@allenmckinney9533]

Good tip on flipping the coil.

[@thebigwhitehorse6228]

...best sound effects on KZbin ....hands down....lol.....I'm addicted...

[@alwaysdeviced]

Got my 1966 Locke Mower up and running again with this video. Thank you!

[@BootsDalton]

WAS A SUCCESS Followed your directions. Flipped the coil backwards and away she went. REMEMBER TO REPLACE THE FLYWHEEL KEY. Mine wouldn't run until I changed the flywheel key. The old one got bumped and deformed and that's all it took. So replace it. Thanks Taryl!

[@bigdirtyoutdoors5186]

Your videos are awesome Taryl. never stop.

[@josephsteffen2378]

Now that is a really good tip. Flipping the magneto around: who the heck sprouted that idea!? GENIUS! I GOT MY DINNER AFTER ALL!

[@billybobbubbawubba9457]

Glad I watched. Unfortnately I have a Toro Groundsmaster, and all the drive has to be remove before I can even get the cover off. Yer smarter than you look!

[@billybobbubbawubba9457]

Mine has that electronic conversion. It ran, but poorly. I reversed the coil. and things are much better now. Also sanded mucho rust off the flywheel magnets, so a gap adjustment would be meaningful. Then found the ground wire were some burned 18ga? wire, and my kill wouldn't work. Replaced them w/16ga. Now< I can turn it off.

[@chriswagner6310]

You guys crack me up that's funny😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@BahnGop]

What a beast of an old tractor, looks solid and tough

[@davidfarrar3666]

Taryl, do I reverse the 39881 on first install or ONLY if it gets no spark "this side out"

[@nicholasaiton6838]

Thanks taryl for showing me this conversion I was told I couldn't be changed to electronic ignition thanks taryl

[@nickkroner296]

I like those Videos, very funny and informative, keep on rolling, taryl and Crew. Greetings from Germany

[@CTmoog]

Great info on the coil flip! thanks Taryl!

[@tractors4us]

Great video taryl

[@robertcrews740]

Another great video by the guys at Grass Rats Garage... :) Happy Aprils Fools Day and Easter!!!

[@skypilot7103]

Thank you once again for your help with another great video.

[@BESTO1215]

Excellent video Taryl is a genius..

[@lesliehorton4256]

Very informative. Thanks Guys.

[@joerico9461]

You have excellent info not too many people would take the time thank you sir

[@graftedin3]

Good video,always informative and entertaining

[@redskool8498]

awesome guys ... have a good easter .. †

[@clockguy2]

Happy Easter!

[@DaveTheBigTomato]

Flipping around new module worked.....THANKS!!!!

[@MegaBakerdude]

Good video. Never realized flipping the coil prevents having to re-magnetize. I had heard about sending your flywheel away. Maybe this is why another kit I saw says nothing about it. Could be aftermarket, and all they do is flip it.

[@robertfarrar9411]

Oh my goodness thank-you! I replaced a dead coil on my briggs 18 hp with the new style and no spark! Now I can fix it!

[@AM-dn4lk]

Awesome video tutorial. Thank you.

[@jazpanoz4996]

How do you know what model electronic coil to replace the points one with?? Or are they all much the same thing?? I'm guessing you go by the motor size?

[@antoniocausin3189]

YOU ARE GREAT TARYL!!!!!

[@chriswagner6310]

You guys crack me up. He crapped his pants😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kodibassInsideoutboards]

Thanks guys, funny videos & Years of knowledge , in less then 20 mins.!

[@gtw9998]

Thanks for my dinner keep up the good videos

[@happyfeet231259]

awesome Taryl, i signed up a few days ago , you are a little funny weird..haha , you give tremendous good advise, and i apreciate this very well, you always look at the details , and never afraid to flip some peices hahaha, thanks you so much for being funny, from Belgium best regards

[@jayjay-xz9sc]

Great video love watching these

[@hotrodtiki200]

Just an update for everyone. In 2023 Briggs no longer offers this service.

[@travispoppler8023]

The mower whisperer. Love your videos.

[@jasoncook1085]

Always helpful and always funny

[@GaryEden-d4g]

I've got an old '67 Simplicity 2012 Landlord with a 243431 Briggs engine that has a weak/no spark. I've changed the coil , points , condenser , wiring , spark plug to no avail. I ordered the briggs 398811 ignition set to hopefully remedy the problem. Thanks for the info.

[@garryludwick2990]

GREAT JOB!!!!. Going to do my MTD soon

[@rockiemountin7535]

Keep up the good work guy love ya videos informative and funny

[@gergemall]

Love it . I have an old classic industrial type , commercial push mower . It looks very similar to yours.?. I got a new carbtrader 😊

[@robertjohn7973]

Also I love your videos smart and funny. Thanks

[@deew1482]

Ranch dressing!!? They're simply epic!

[@johngiag2011]

You are the best Tary

[@roscoe454]

i really like the d-104 tug9 i saw in the closet..ive had many of them over the years exellent mic for the cb or ham rig!

[@DennisTotman]

Awesome music!

[@chriswagner6310]

You guys crack me up I can't stop laughing😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@coburnlowman]

I have this same machine. Instead of supporting Briggs and Stratton, I simply took an $11.⁰⁰ Clonda clone coil for the 420 cc engine. It took two vice grips, one for each side of the coil legs. Then took it to the bench grinder, and ground the legs to fit the bigger flywheel. Seems like I drilled one hole out bigger in said coil to fit the original mounting tabs. Seems as tho the Clone cool was mounted the opposite way to work. The key is to use vice grips to hold the coil lamanats together. I've used the Clonda coils in several engines since. They cost nearly nothing, and can be drilled to fit most engines. Or all the engines I've needed them for.

[@davidpotter9462]

I have that same engine. Running on points so far ...

[@jerryking1434]

Very informative.... Thanks...

[@raymondgarafano8604]

Kool looking D-104 lollipop mike Taryl.

[@haeke69]

Taryl does it again. top stuff mate. woohoo

[@gianlucaridolfi8211]

Simply the best!!

[@denicefithian1328]

I love the celebration WHOOOOOOOHOOOOO! And the dances too omg lol. I never thought I'd be watchin videos on anything involving engines or mowers (I don't even know how to sharpen mower blades or change a tire!) hahaha but seriously this is very informative & I'm becoming very inspired to do stuff around my house by myself! I'd probably save a ton of $! If I lived near this guy I'd for sure hire him for everything just so I could see him 😉. Such a cutie! 👍🏼

[@aceelectriccompany1181]

Taryl, please make a video showing how to install hour meter on home lawn tractor.Great videos.

[@josephpuchel6497]

Happy Easter excellent tutorial

[@stripersniper1531]

Nobody on the tube gives out dinners Like the T man

[@john7017]

That ending was great! Slippers getting de-pants, still laughing

[@silenceondort1314]

Taryl, I've got this old Simplicity tiller with the B&S 19D 8hp. Can I get rid of the points and condenser by installing the BS 398811 kit? If so, would I have to reverse installation (flip it) to reverse magnet polarity? Thanks for your help. Alain

[@mulonru2965]

Thanks for video

[@rockystevecox3999]

Is there a larger spark plug gap for this coil setup? Or should I run with .035?

[@thatbiguy1975]

I'm sure Taryl is right for 99% of tractors but 1% out there doing this conversion having trouble here is my experience. i put the 398811 coil on my old 67 B&S 12 horse, checked it both ways it only sparked in the when installed correctly as indicated on the coil. no matter where i put the timing it would start like it was advanced and run but never run very smoothly. I even elongated the holes to adjust timing more. sent flywheel to briggs they re-polarized and got it back the next day (i'm in MN). now coil installed same correct way, timing back to original - barley touch the key and it's running smooth as a kitten.

[@transammike]

I am kinda thinkin the same thing with mine. I flipped it around and no change. Weak spark too. Might just send in the flywheel.

[@staind288]

@@transammike sometimes the magnets can lose their magnetic ability. Sending in to re-energize them or re polarize in this case is the best option for this scenario

[@gordoncorey8023]

Nice job thank you

[@radiotubes]

I'm impressed

[@JeffinTD]

Cool iron engine, and great tip.

[@ronaldwells1805]

Good video once again

[@ihus9950]

Thanks for the info Taryl

[@dadmezz4024]

Thank you for sharing...my 4 Original cubs cadets will appreciate the upgrade.....the B&S sounded smooth. HOPE the Krolers sound the A's good...wahooooo!

[@darrenskinner5928]

Great video as always enjoy your stuff

[@TheMan-ue7ri]

EXCELLENT !!!!

[@quiltingtrucker]

Happy “there’s your Easter dinner” day!

[@shenghan9385]

There my dog has just pooed. There ya go. Dinner for your whole family.

[@kevinleee3408]

Very interesting.

[@the_realJP_]

I would like to see you do a video on an old Tecumseh engine with the Solid state ignition.

[@fogtfarms9743]

Love it keep up the good work

[@1607rosie]

Taryl your a wizard! How does it know south from North Pole! I got one of those motors that's cool to know thanks taryl I owe you a dinner!

[@n8sot]

Ha Ha!!! you got me. Happy Easter and April fools day.

[@anthonymarks120]

Happy Easter + April fools day!!!!!

[@kingbee5155]

Once in a blue moon.

[@billpenn7492]

WHEN EVER IM HAVING A BAD DAY, AND I NEED A LITTLE PICK ME UP I GO ON KZbin AND PUT THESES NUT CASES ON .AND I FEEL BETTER IN KNOW TIME.KEEP UP THE CRAZY SHIT YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE YOUR OWN TV SHOW. BILL PENN FROM PHILA ,PA. 9/12/2020.

[@kengarrett5801]

Pretty good stuff Taryl, that's just funny! Oh yeah, you're video shows exactly what I was looking for also.

[@jeffman6485]

Great video and awesome information thank you keep up the good work

[@Goomer]

Good one Taryl

[@loluspololus]

Happy Easter guys !!!

[@allenmckinney9533]

The easter bunnies April fools joke is those aren't eggs. Lol

[@grantw.whitwam9948]

Best thing I've seen today.

[@4gauge10]

HAHAHA!!.Love the channel Tayrl,I subbed yesterday and really enjoy watching. I converted my dads Toro 1132 "BLIZZARD BUSTER"to electronic ignition about 22-23 years ago with the Briggs/Stratton"MAGNATRON"kit. I've never had ANYMORE starting issues after the breaker points got weak in it and was causing hard starting and it just wouldn't run after awhile.The 11hp. I/C Briggs has been running like a top every since.Too bad you can't do this with Kohler and Tecumseh...😀👍

[@Mr_Tecumseh]

The Nova II will work on Tecumseh.

[@4gauge10]

Fearless Lots of luck.

[@staind288]

@@Mr_Tecumseh interesting.. You've done this?

[@outtatime4512]

@@Mr_Tecumseh on the hh120? The replacement pickup and module assy is too expensive on ebay

[@Mr_Tecumseh]

@@outtatime4512 That sucks

[@kevinleee3408]

Good video

[@somerandomguy3868]

Another great video, only thing that occurs to me is B+S might want the eletronic module on the outside so it might be in a little bit cooler place

[@shenghan9385]

6:40. To confuse the Santa Claus. Lol

[@thyubernoob]

great ending! Boo!

[@connorssmallengines6663]

What! I thought the Briggs remagnetized flywheel was an April fools joke, but no! I guess Taryl knows his stuff

[@michaelglynn2638]

I learned useful stuff there, thank you. To my buddy's and neighbours you're making me appear smart. I'll have to fess up one day lol. Wonder if Slippers misses his head.