How to Counter Holy Paladin Warrior in Wotlk Arena PvP

[@Earpugs]

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[@politianospolitis862]

Probably the most useful PvP video i have ever watched. I love the way you are freezing the screen and explaining what is going on and the impact it has later.

[@Earpugs]

Thank you!!!

[@marinbagaric4755]

For real, i Play world of Warcraft since the First Version came Out, and i was in 1st Grade of school. This is the best and Most specific Guide ive Seen on KZbin for Arena all time!!! Thank you so much, for Sharing your knowledge, i Wish it would See it some years earlier 😅 ❤️

[@SirNeshorn]

Great content as usual, man! Very nice examples :) thanks for the video!

[@emregocmen9562]

I love this series!!! Maybe a how to counter Preg paladin/Enh Shaman or Ele Shaman/Affl or destro lock?

[@asfasdfsd8476]

Double this. Warlock comps so annoying man. Especially ele destro on bridge arena where they knock you down all the time

[@emregocmen9562]

@@asfasdfsd8476 that's one of the reasons why ;)

[@blackpker124]

awesome video, helps me tremendously as im new to arena. keep em coming.

[@zaro6381]

Thanks for the vid, very informative, even as hpal/warr to learn my own weaknesses! Would be very interested in How to counter Feral/Disc :)

[@dariollanos]

great video man!, keep more of this series coming!

[@АкакійФоменко]

Thank you for your experience and science!

[@Earpugs]

Appreciate you!

[@fedlon]

You forgot to mention 2 crucial defensive cds that war hpal can use vs hunter disc. - shield block (totally prevents hunt damsge) - disarm (same as above) Also another inportant thing is that pala can use both his sacrifices between the scatter and the proc of the freezing trap. There is a little time while he can do this. If war pala plays correctly and turn sacrifices, disarm, block,bouble trinkets and wall there is absolutely nothing u can do

[@carvascheung3871]

omg I love this video, subbed

[@brewtank6738]

Damn the last game made me want to play some priest/mage looked fun good strat too

[@EzpzGames]

I'd really like to see DK + DiscP or DK + Hpal

[@dirkpritzkow5090]

Amazing guide, helps a lot. Thx👍

[@savasolarov8424]

Great video man, very detailed and precise info so one can understand the toolkit.

[@onethreeify]

Great video, thank you!

[@Nefarium123]

I love the guides, man. Would enjoy some gameplay vids as well

[@bon_donson]

rly good guide thank you

[@TheAshanddad]

Very informative video 🎉

[@parker4583]

Another banger

[@donfozil86]

Please tell me the addon your using to see the remakning damage block of your shield........ ive been looking for ir

[@Earpugs]

It’s a weakaura called nanshield wotlk

[@Bogpillz]

if i am playing enhance with arms war, what would you recommend doing vs this comp at like 1500 mmr lmao

[@Earpugs]

You have to run the warrior over and force them defensive while hexing the paladin, shearing casts grounding hoj purging the warrior and pumping.

[@Bogpillz]

@@Earpugs thank you appreciate the reply

[@seybumarek1769]

this was helpful for me as well. holy pala /wave :D

[@Zilynderlan]

Please help us out with a video against DKs... were casters :( how do they burst so hard, how to they heal so much on their own...

[@Earpugs]

They will be half as scary next season don’t worry. S5 is the strongest DK’s will ever be. Warriors on the other hand get even scarier.

[@rolandomontenegro3520]

great video, new subs here. how can u counter feral disc?

[@Earpugs]

That's my next video!

[@goteborg7744]

Compared to the Shadow priest/Rogue comp, would you say that one of these is generally harder to deal with than the other one?

[@Earpugs]

Yes, it's all comp dependent as to what is better into what however.

[@amosruthburg723]

Great video thanks for the explanations

[@comfortb4style565]

Hey y'all any tips for a disc priest on what to do against warriors in 2s or wars with uh dks in 3v3?

[@AnthonyArmour]

Play with a mage

[@702IAN]

can you do feral/disc pl0x

[@Earpugs]

on the list!

[@asfasdfsd8476]

@@Earpugs man I beg you please no disc feral xD I actually play it 😂

[@jameskim1505]

... what year is this ?

[@Askhat08]

What are your addons for enemy CDs and friendly party frames?

[@Earpugs]

I go over my entire setup here kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJfbn5pmrK-Grqs

[@Askhat08]

@@Earpugs Thank you so much!

[@blummel97]

I mean the video is full of good advice, but still the 3 comps you've shown here all have a disc priest, priests are naturally quite good and always have been good against paladins due to the purge spam, mana burn, fear and aoe despell removing bubble. I was more looking forward to advice for non-counter comps when playing against pala warr, but I guess priest is your main so you're making videos from priest's pov :D By the way what is that addon/weakaura showing all cooldowns/ccs above everyone's nameplates? I've been using omnicc but it seems a bit bugged in wotlk.

[@Earpugs]

BigDebuffs

[@RyanVBoom]

Is that big debuff or nameplate cooldowns a special set up? It’s so clean I’d love to set mine up like that if there’s a tutorial

[@Earpugs]

No it’s just bigdebuffs

[@RyanVBoom]

Which strat for ele/destro - do you go recommend pally as kill target? ❤ super helpful thank you!

[@Earpugs]

@@RyanVBoom Killing the succubus from the warlock will ALWAYS put them super behind if you are able to do so. Once you kill both of them tunnel the lock for eternity. There are other strats but that one works pretty well.

[@merkytrades]

we are dk hpal, and everytime we fight warhpal we tie (which is excruciating) or lose

[@Earpugs]

Yeah warrior hpala counters you unfortunately

[@F1rURules]

Hi, is Rogue + Holy Paladin a good 2v2 comp? And can explain your answer please. Thanks

[@Earpugs]

Sub rogues don't have enough damage to finish kills without help in a lot of scenarios so that is why SPR or DPR or RM are very strong because it gives the rogue the extra dam to finish while having a lot of control. Holy paladins have no offensive spells other than hoj for the most part, no purge, no dam, no cc other than hoj. They do however have a ton of healing power so self sufficient classes pair well with them like warriors, DK's etc. Rogue paladin can work in the right scenario however I would imagine the rogue has to be mutilate for the extra damage.

[@-__--__-_--]

@@Earpugs Maybe ret rogue? I've seen quite a few

[@F1rURules]

@@Earpugs thanks a lot for your answer :)

[@comradeshmoo]

@@-__--__-_-- ret+rogue (scooby-doo) is a lot stronger. Ret still has most of the support abilities that an hpal brings and can enable the rogue to do their thing with extra utility like removing stuns with freedom, while also being a serious damage threat in their own right and having fantastic burst to add to kill windows. Rogue is also able to assist the ret in getting their damage out by preventing purge on wings with off-cc, slowing targets with crip and waylay, and applying wound so ret's damage is stickier.

[@Earpugs]

@@-__--__-_-- Ret rogue stronk

[@BeastKingThor]

good vibes on this one 👍, could use more Alpha Chad Draenei though.

[@Earpugs]

Spacegoats are bis

[@jisc5454]

Nice content :)

[@jaimonji5503]

When playing dp rogue why you always pve pala without any cc on the warrior.. warrior has disarm on the same CD as dance, so he should be able to stop it every time

[@lance7399]

very good video

[@Earpugs]

Thank you!

[@Harfista]

Man, the title of the movie is wrong since you show only 1 tactic, all tha involves disci priest which is simply best OP pvp healer in the entire expansion. My 2 dps comp could easilly get hpala down but we have no way to get his buble down, that is the main problem.

[@messypuddin]

Am i the only one that sees a disc priest in every match up? I understand if thats the point of this video, but maybe call it -- "how to counter hpal with disc" -- not having MD is an enormous thing to ignore

[@zepho100]

So many disc priests.

[@markisfish4489]

I prefer to have a disc priest than an hpal. They’re so much more aggressive in 2s than an hpal.

[@Earpugs]

My druid is 77 don’t worry

[@stefangeibla3824]

Discs are EVERYWHERE! It’s insane, right? 😅

[@matteophp25]

Def I want to see rdruid with Dk vs hp war

[@Sanaki131]

How to counter Ferals would be nice

[@-__--__-_--]

There's also enragened regen on war + shield block

[@Earpugs]

True! However those 2 CD’s pale in comparison to the damage reduction of wall.

[@Gnomeaimer]

Nice video, could you share your gladdy settings?

[@Earpugs]

I cover my entire gladdy setup here kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJfbn5pmrK-Grqs

[@joyner24]

Ele/HPal or Beastcleave next please!

[@andrewtanner6171]

warr pally ele sham 3s next

[@AnthonyArmour]

Disc priest/frost mage is the war/hpal hard counter though

[@Earpugs]

Preg enhance is the only counter in the game to war pal. DPM can beat it of course, but they certainly don’t counter it. DPM has 0 answers for the 2nd bladestorm if the warrior plays correctly.

[@spenserroxsox]

I do the ugly twin of hpal/war aka hpal/dk and it's pretty dang strong haha

[@Earpugs]

Yeah DK pala is god tier in S5

[@JBar141]

HOW TO BEAT DOUBLE DPS STEALTH COMPS

[@asfasdfsd8476]

War pal is ez man. Try same for warlock comps : ele destro/affli healer and of that kind. So annoying! Especially on the nagrand arena where they jump down and gate up

[@d-sto687]

you can‘t Counter it as resto Schaman😄😄 and Good Warrie Spray at pali While Hunter sie scatter to eat next cc

[@bos7522]

Been playing exclusively Ele + Frost up till 2k now, and Warpal is pretty much free wins unless they're playing in a way we haven't really experienced yet and developed a strategy for. It took us a while to get the timings down, but there's really not much a team like that could do against a Frost mage with healing to back it up and a spammable purge that takes off 2 buffs at a time. If we are ever inbetween the Pally and his Warrior, the Warrior sits in cc forever and the game is just over. But we can also just play out in the open, put the Mage between the Ele and the Warrior, and just keep him defensive until we run them out of cooldowns. The only threat EVER is Bladestorm which we have no answers for besides Stoneclaw and just hardcasting heals into it. Seeing as how for some reason leeway still exists, Bladestorm is hitting me at 15+ yd range which is just ludicrous since I can't even outrun it even if I have a head-start with Ghost Wolf. The things we can't seem to beat consistently right now are any Rogue teams that open on the Ele. They trinket the DF, vanish the roots, shadowstep the thunderstorm, kick gouge or ks the hex, and cloak whenever anything goes wrong. I have the most resi I will have for this phase, seeing as how the only items that I can improve on are PvE sourced anyways, running a Battlemaster trinket, and I still die before I can get another a Stoneclaw against most Rogue comps that flip everything in the opener.

[@memorial6]

i would you recommend standing in the corner/on the edge so he cant hit your back, mage can just look for him and take eye eventually

[@bos7522]

@@memorial6 That worked up to 1.9kish rating, but on most arenas it doesn't help one bit, rarely do they ever let us grab eye, they open long before that and often its Ret Rogue or sPR which just kills me through everything no matter what. That being said, it works really well on Blade's Edge when I stand on the pillar and knocking them off such that their shadowstep makes them fall down every time. A very well played Disc Rogue beats us pretty handily, but a single mistake and they can never recover pretty much. I dunno, I've tried the corner strat more times than I can count, and it works almost as much as running around the pillar and spamming heals with Bloodlust. The damage is just too damn high. Had a queue session today and we got absolutely farmed against Hunter teams, which usually werent a very big problem for us, but yeah it looks like a well played dPH beats us pretty effectively too sadly

[@zepho100]

Can’t win them all brother. Ele shaman is busted and smashes everything except the rogue. Not bad odds lol

[@bos7522]

@@zepho100 Yeah, I'm not complaining, I mean I know down the line Rogues get easier and easier to deal with, it's only this phase where they can press everything in the opener and kill us outright. That being said, Ele is hella fun and I don't regret it one bit

[@zepho100]

@@bos7522 yeah man, ele is super fun. I play thunder with an ele and I’m warrior with Hpala at 1800. Haven’t played that many games too, my friend just deletes people 😂

[@Coli272]

very good explanation, but not every strat works on every rating...

[@Earpugs]

These strats can be used from 1000 rated to rank 1.

[@MT-so2mk]

These are the bread and butter strats on how to do it. Higher ratings will have more mind games and ppl trying to bait out bad plays.

[@GamingDualities]

imagine playing disc priest over holy priest

[@Earpugs]

I couldn’t

[@CaithlynTube]

Or the warrior just Deals 30k dmg in 10sec without storm or reck and just demolishes your rogue 😎

[@Earpugs]

Ez clap

[@zepho100]

Smashing rogues seems really easy as a warrior.

[@QuickTalks1337]

counter pala/warrior with rogue/priest = tunnel warrior ez win, no science

[@TheDruxlol]

mana burns in that mage game made me want to harm you.. pala player

[@Earpugs]

good

[@ricga6795]

How to counter Holypaladin/Warrior= Thats the fun part, you dont.

[@MrVozo]

Lol dude died with divine shield available u kidding me?

[@Earpugs]

Pre MD’d anyway but yeah he got slapped

[@LilyHooper]

Without watching first I can say..... play a mage or warlock

[@lakkbaCOD]

Ye, this kinda works, if the Pala is dumb and positions like shit like in the clips. Ssbot playin like a Bot :D

[@Earpugs]

They really don't have a choice. They either chase us or AFK on pillar while we drink.

[@derekjanisch584]

I main a Warrior on Whiteman… I feel like i’m spying 🥷 on my enemy 😂