How to Counter Horse Archers in a Land Battle (World Cup Strategy Tips)

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Should this be the meta to counter horse archers

[@schean0078]

One of the metas

[@juliuswill9517]

Hey there I really love your videos even though I am kind of a noob in rome multiplayer. The one thing I can't get behind is which keys do you press to get this "times 4 arrow" which allows you to move your army forward and even rotate them? Would be much appreciated :)

[@FightMeTotalWar]

its holding you mouse on one unit while u got you whole army selected and drag it around, for turning it you need to hold control while you do that

[@juliuswill9517]

@@FightMeTotalWar Awesome! Thank you very much:)

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Historically the horse archers can simply not choose to fight this battle and raid ur supply lines instead

[@xViolentDeathx]

I appreciate that you made these kind of videos with the right amount of balance commentary with insight and strategy. I do hope you could break down more on how to organize formation for land battle

[@FightMeTotalWar]

I will next time Thanks for the feedback!

[@boogiewoogie565]

could you make more videos like these where you’re fighting? they help a lot more than replays of fights

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Gotcha!!

[@ellis_or7484]

I agree, this was really helpful and my favourite video of yours so far!

[@FightMeTotalWar]

@@ellis_or7484 Great to hear that man! More to come!

[@BadCow94]

never played rome 2 competitive but im guessing his mistake here was sending the cav archers early on to just shoot a few arrows front facing you army instead of saving those arrows for the back of your army when busy on melee

[@TheEmperorBubbles]

Very well done FightMe! Fun to watch.

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Great tourney your hosting!

[@rtwmoder]

I wonder why max 8 missile cav!!! I mean it's ok for nomadic faction like Cimmeria But For Parthia, Armenia and Bakteria, it unbalanced the game This was not the case with previous major league rules Max 4 missile cav....

[@FightMeTotalWar]

i dont know man

[@AN-nt3uv]

I find this type of battle and opponent very hard to deal with. You do it very well. The additional problem is, that his cavalry units are also the faster ones in this game and your opponent could have done even more skirmish and just run you out. Really tough, but you made it, great choice of units and tactics.

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Thanks AN ye its hard! horse archers factions normally dominate greeks in land battle so made it hard

[@ThePs3Gangster]

It's really impressive that you pulled that one off, I always get desperate against missile cavalry and don't know how to counter them

[@FightMeTotalWar]

ye same thing for me in the beginning

[@filipperwejnis3566]

slingers and archers are only counter

[@ProfibobWot]

Scorps murder horses, never ballusta, always scorps vs them Also mass archers

[@fmogaddam]

thanks for all efforts i really love this kind of battle videos with analyze and commentary 😄 if it's possible to you please do it for other total war games too like Medieval too

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Oeh maybe in the future but for now I will stick to rome 2

[@majintab7710]

lovely video, and counter against the horse archers, however you could substitute a couple of swords for thureos spears, this way they will force the horse archers to keep more distance, and then they will kill cavalry faster that the thorax swords

[@FightMeTotalWar]

ye thats true!

[@nahh9494]

As new player of total war in general, i learn a lot from your video

[@howitzer551]

Hey, you can't really do it with Syracuse, but just a heads-up horse archers use their own entities for mounts. Medium and above horse archers are the same speed as other cavalry of the same weight class, but light and very light are slower. I am going to forget but very light missile horse is like run speed 10 (I believe speed is 10/9/8 for VL/L/M missile horses) and very light melee horse is 12. This and the fact that Javelin Cavalry uses melee horse mounts means with good micro they can usually ward off horse archers with decent micro unless you are way outnumbered. Any of the cheap very light or light javelin cavalry with 41 missile damage is super dangerous to horse archers if you can micro them. At further ranges you can bait shots with your speed and if they get too close while they can shoot back you can just shadow them while pump bonus vs cav javelins into them and they will die quicker in that instance. I do not advise people to just sacrifice the jav cav but unless you are against a Nomad pro you can really frustrate them as they can't shoot what they want with their horse archers.

[@themekahippie991]

Have you had any luck using peltasts against horse archers? They're my go-to counter to AI HA because they tend to just sit them in perfect javelin range. Is the range difference enough for a human with decent micro to exploit?

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Its a little bit hard against human, but it could work a little yes

[@nizari116]

Stupid question, but as a veteran of total war series (since medieval 1), and playing rome 2 since it came out, I still don't know how to move the whole army AND keep formation. I know how to move all units forward with 1 button but they wont keep their places like you did on 1:21. Also how on earth do I do it like on 2:01? How to move a single unit and keep the formation automatically? I only know right click, hold the button and move mouse. 3:07 WHAT ON EARTH?????? How do you do that??

[@Casperdcvd]

Group everything and lock it, using ctrl+G I believe

[@syahyaa4705]

Isn't it better to bring Thorax spearmen to cover your flanks?

[@gilanthegrey]

My solution against horse archer spam is this: Slingers ignore frontline, and ward the flanks with their long range, put in blocky formation so they pivot faster. i let them trade with my slingers, and use fake cav charges to make the ranged battle go in favour of the slingers

[@FightMeTotalWar]

good one!

[@edwarda9403]

Against horse it's a win to have spear with armor maxed in square with archers/slingers massed inside. If your archers and slingers have higher range and damage you'll win every time

[@milniar]

seems like a really cool video! shame I was looking for strategies against horse archers irl. Might still be able to learn from this though so ill keep watching

[@milniar]

I have no idea what happened but it was in fact a cool video. nice job on the win!

[@Sergio-uw2ci]

Thanks for the video I’m living on this

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Np man!❤️

[@Blooticus]

How the hell are you moving your units around all fancy like that? Look fun

[@s.a.7011]

Do you know where we can watch tournament battles

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Yes at curved bubbles youtube channel and twitch

[@s.a.7011]

@@FightMeTotalWar Thank you

[@JasonnDim]

You should fire with archers against horse archers...you should use pikemen because they can do a lot of damage to infantry and cavalry unites.

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Good one!

[@jonaswielandt6731]

What button you use to turn a unit that quickly while you drag a unit with your mouse?

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Control

[@darrianaldridge1057]

How come you didn’t use any pela from your thorax

[@FightMeTotalWar]

oh i didnt realllise

[@mateuszkubiak4434]

If you hate playing against enemy who often spam horse archers on battelfield and you can choose faction just pick Royal Scythia.

[@FightMeTotalWar]

ye they are banned in the tournament

[@lucadaniels7253]

Good stuff

[@percy3993]

Why not mir thorax hoplites. Like two or three instead of thorax swords. They could chill in the back and end every cavalry

[@FightMeTotalWar]

true but pila is so powerfull!

[@marketableskills5374]

damn horse archers! Great tips homie!

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Thanks bro ye they do be tuff

[@CrossTheGoat]

Crassus said just wait till they ran out of ammo

[@noscope7809]

You should upload more battles of you playing man

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Yes Sir!

[@icheko2498]

Scorpions will decimate horse units in just 3-4 shots. Also I've noticed archers or better slingers are the best counter.

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Scorpion is not allowed in most land battles

[@cristianroth8524]

I'm so fed up with them, that I always have at least 4 units of artillery in every army.

[@mrbombastic6478]

What are. Your graphics settings?

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Max out evertyrhing

[@lucianodotchi3504]

We need more content

[@hypervenom3141]

Cimmeria just sucks, I think the only viable build for them is full kite with lots of archer, 3-4 HA (most land battle have the max 3-4 HA rules) and a few infantry just to protect the archer

[@delducasabaudo4285]

Why your opponents has didnt use the hoplites walls? huge mistake here by him. good battle💪

[@FightMeTotalWar]

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[@peterfrans1719]

Great battle

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Thanks

[@awanishphilosophy5368]

I am not able to see mountable artillery for any faction in siege defense please help me

[@FightMeTotalWar]

For your campaign you won’t be able unless you unlock a abality for your gen

[@awanishphilosophy5368]

i know it but in custom battle it is also not showing

[@FightMeTotalWar]

you got to put the settlement size on large

[@awanishphilosophy5368]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH

[@USRAMIPLAYZ]

Horse archers are so annoying to play against. Thanks for the advice, this will help a lot.

[@vincentparo3158]

Great content

[@FightMeTotalWar]

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[@ahoura2881]

Plz make more video about land battle:)

[@FightMeTotalWar]

gotcha!

[@ahoura2881]

Thanks man I really have problem in land battle and IDK what kind of army to choose

[@FightMeTotalWar]

oeh understandable, i have 3 land battle videos so if you check the armies used there you can get some insiration

[@ahoura2881]

@@FightMeTotalWar thanks :D

[@mdstmouse7]

i wouldnt bring tarantine against horse archers. probably just slingers and noob box. i hate horse archers, cuz my micro sucks. the other option is a rush build

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Ye it’s hard to choose

[@drixmcdrixerson]

This should be interesting. I always have trouble with Thracian horse archers.

[@ngocanhnguyenho6788]

Enemy horse archers dont know how to shoot u from your back.

[@theannoyinghistorian1812]

Ok, this is not a fleet review. But a land battle is very cool. #Day22ofaskingforafleetreviev. I have been asking for almost half a year already, pliz make review 😢😢😢

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Hahaha Thanks bro #day22 = half year?!?! Hahah

[@theannoyinghistorian1812]

@@FightMeTotalWar Well, I was only counting the days where I was making a comment. My first comment was in June. Essentially yes. It is half a year. #Day23ofaskingforafleetreview

[@rtwmoder]

Ohhhh 8 missile cav rule is trash It's broken the game Bruh why do you use shitizen😂 And Cimmeria have bad army with useless hoplite and not enough archer Against Cimmeria you don't need that much melee inf

[@FightMeTotalWar]

ye but i thought if i bring more cav they would get destroyed by their horse archers and if more missles more chance of him getting in to them

[@hisenburger2]

You played better than crassus

[@gusfring8451]

I love being Parthia, deploying 1200 boys and getting 2200 kills with horse archers. With that in mind, delete the video. >:(

[@olegd.8941]

Horrible video quality

[@abhinandanbanerjee5471]

Man, you bring me back to how we were at 15-18. I personally felt that the Thorax Pike was an honorable thing to do as otherwise your comp was too far ahead of his. Lmao kidding. You knew this would be a roflstomp for you.

[@FightMeTotalWar]

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[@Decebal_of_the_Getae]

did you say Hermes is the best land battle player?

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Hahahah nooooo😜

[@abhinandanbanerjee5471]

Your micro also sucks. Your opponent used his horse archers like blobs which was a stupid idea

[@FightMeTotalWar]

Yea I did my best haha

[@Justheory11b]

Wow. Dick comment. Who are you playing in the tourney?

[@abhinandanbanerjee5471]

@@Justheory11b I'm someone whose beaten Legend and Volound. I've not played Total War in 5 years but I remember how its worked. A content creator who plays still agrees with me and knows that Cimmeria is an ubercrap faction. You don't have to stick up for him. Watch him play the game and get sick of it in 2 years like all of us got.

[@rwaters9709]

Good info. Subbed !!! Don't miss out - 'promo sm'!!!

[@FightMeTotalWar]

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