How to create a FAKE DRUM ROOM SOUND

[@luddy3586]

obrigado por compartilhar essa aula , estava procurando essa aula

[@steinwaygoat]

Oh nicey nicey. I'm using this to add a bit of color to a flute sound, and it's perfect! Unintended and lovely! Thanks, Jewel

[@jamesjoseph1373]

I love how subtle this is. Definitely going to try this!

[@mixdownonline]

Awesome :-)

[@MrProducenten]

Ohman. This could Come in handy and usefull for many things. Been trying Hard to create fake rooms with only reverb. Never thougth about The delay. Great :)

[@mixdownonline]

Enjoy!

[@vsolic]

Thanks Chris. You are actually creating Haas effect before reverb. Great tip. Did you try to saturate the reverb!?

[@mixdownonline]

I did not on this mix but it's actually a very good idea!

[@tcb6771]

thank you！ I like this drums sound

[@tcb6771]

And this technique is awesome

[@mixdownonline]

Thanks!

[@realraven2000]

3:00 jesus - I have used low pass and high pass of Cubase EQ quite a bit, but this is the first time I see them in green - didn't know there was a switch for "pre" mode!!

[@mixdownonline]

Yes, filters, Gain and Phase are Pre... This way you don't need to use the filters out of the 4 band EQ

[@realraven2000]

@@mixdownonline why does it not show up green in my Cubase 10?

[@mixdownonline]

You can change the color of EQ and Pre Filters in Preferences-User Interface-MixConsole Colors :-)

[@audiobloomstudios]

Sounds very nice 👍 Will test it, normally using uad ocean ways plugin for this purpose which works fine too ✌️

[@guitaraldo]

Nice work,the sound is to much better with this tecnique! Thanks for sharing!!

[@mixdownonline]

You're welcome!

[@Frankaupolis]

Awesome trick! Merci Chris!

[@mixdownonline]

You're welcome, mon ami!

[@LondonSteveLee]

Nicely done with stock plugins - although it is usual to high-pass into the reverb for this kind of application to reduce mud in low frequencies.

[@producermind9030]

Sounds good my man. The stereo delay trick is the extra touch I needed. Definitely using this in a song or three.

[@mixdownonline]

Thanks, I use this a lot in my mixes

[@ruudjansen2412]

Great tutorial Chris!... Although your tips and hints can be applied to any other daw, you are a real ambassador for Cubase and these kind of tutorials I really missed when I ever bought Cubase some years ago. I had to find it all by myself. That's why I am very glad with you and your channel and I assume Cubase must be happy with you as well :)

[@mixdownonline]

Yes, they ca be applied to any DAWs. Really happy you life the channels. more videos to come :-)

[@m4r5]

amazing! thanks for this tip!

[@sundamusik]

So for Fake overheads, would you do a simular process?

[@StephenAntKneeBk5]

Thanks Chris. Very convincing "Room" emulation technique. And, yes, per Vlad's comment, I think the "Room" could be enhanced with some saturation, or, who knows what -- as always, depending on the product. :-) this one gets saved as an Effect Chain preset.

[@mixdownonline]

Why not! :-)

[@tcerecords5253]

Throw a tube screamer on in the chain somewhere or in parallel. Play with the amount of wet/dry. Definitely get the compression and saturation.

[@howlerbike]

Really nice.Thanks Chris !

[@mixdownonline]

You're welcome!

[@pablom8854]

Interesting, gonna try this!

[@mixdownonline]

Enjoy!

[@ramspencer5492]

Thanks. Helpful. 😎

[@mixdownonline]

Of course!

[@ZacharyRedFulton]

In my opinion, I would also use this technique in a situation where I’d record a band live in the studio (and especially in situations where the drummer doubles as the lead singer and/or even a backup singer! The way I would achieve this trick is as follows : 1. I’d close-mic each and every single drum AND cymbal on a given kit (yes, I know that’s stretching it, and not everybody has the budget to do that, but sometimes you just have to go the extra mile) 2. Use a stereo Blumlein mic for recording overheads (again, go the extra mile whether or not you can afford it, you only got one life to live), but only use it for reference! 3. Here’s the secret : listen for the L/R placement of each close mic within the overheads, and then pan the close mics to exactly where you can hear them in the overheads! Then delete the “reference” overheads track, and route ALL of the close drum/cymbal mics to the fake drum room aux track!

[@brandoncooke6564]

So, I really like this idea and it is definitely something I plan to try out at some point! My only real confusion is, why do you use the Blumlein technique as opposed to just using a more "standard" setup like a spaced pair, or XY? Especially when it's not even being used for the overall sonic quality, only the placement, I would think the Blumlein technique would actually give you a narrower stereo field, as well as less precise placement of the individual cymbals within that field. I could definitely be wrong, but was just curious!

[@ZacharyRedFulton]

@@brandoncooke6564 This is more or less a personal thing, but to me, the Blumlein configuration is a much more simplistic approach to “recording” overheads in my aforementioned practice - not to mention it was also the old-school way of capturing a sound source’s stereo image in natural form before spaced pair and XY (which is basically the same thing as Blumlein) came into awareness. Furthermore (and again, this is more or less a personal thing), I want my fake room mic sound to be mono-compatible, because if you really think about it, your mixes are not always going to be heard or played back in true stereo, which is why I can’t stress enough the importance of mixing in mono - and there are a few KZbin videos that explain this concept in great detail. Besides, you can always use a stereo imager after the fact to make it as wide or narrow as you like.

[@JayKay0245]

Great video, thanks Chris

[@mixdownonline]

You're welcome!

[@alejandrososa2310]

Hi Chris! why rever is not at 100% wet if is a FX (aux)? tks bro!

[@strictlydubrecords]

Very helpfull Chris!

[@andrewmallison3524]

Another great video n tip, will be definitely trying it out!

[@mixdownonline]

Have fun!

[@Bhavik_Patel.]

very creative chris... Love.

[@mixdownonline]

Thank you!

[@LocalLiveSessions]

Are you using a JZ mic for narration?

[@korkenknopfus]

Hey Chris, I missed one these kind of videos, super good! These are the soul of your channel. The delay here is this kind of thing that you almost don’t hear, but feel. It is incredible how it affects the result as you show with and without at the end. In the case you already have a room sound (from a real recording or from a library), would you still try to add some amount of this fake room, too?

[@mixdownonline]

It depends on the drum sound I'm looking for. Sometime yes, I will add this either way, and sometimes not

[@korkenknopfus]

Ah, ok, thanks. I actually wanted to know if you would discard the fake automatically if you have already room sound. But not necessarily. That you have a good week!

[@ronfoodsack9922]

What delay and reverb times would you recommend for death metal around 210-240 bpm? Thanks.

[@Mineiro426]

Hi Chris. I just discovered your channel recently and am trying to watch as many of your videos as possible and I am learning a lot. I have a question regarding the track "Drum Room" that is next to the "Big Room". What is its purpose? Is it some other kind of 'fake' drum room?

[@marstudios7879]

Hi Chris can I apply this technique on virtual instruments, like Groove agent or just apply for a live drums?

[@mixdownonline]

For sure :-)

[@analogkid4557]

Another great tip! Thank you so much Chris! Love your channel!

[@mixdownonline]

You're welcome and Thanks!

[@peterlambros]

Thank you Chris. Great video once again. Love the music track at the end, with the guitar and that subtle arp synth swirling around? Which synth/VST are you using for that synth?

[@mixdownonline]

I don't remember, but I will make a video showing you all of this! :-)

[@Rizwan19us]

Thank you for This video

[@mixdownonline]

You're welcome!

[@jaredholton3145]

Totally novice when it comes to recording and mixing, but I've always seen most folks say to use 100% wet on any time effects when using a bus. I like the idea of using 40% wet reverb as it allows that delay to come through. Just curious if this ever causes phasing issues? Awesome content and really appreciate the knowledge you are passing along here!

[@mixdownonline]

No phasing issues since the delay is 100% Wet before hitting the Reverb :-)

[@TheHirade]

Nice one 👍

[@mixdownonline]

You're welcome!

[@mullewap6670]

Yesterday i thing about this,crazy.

[@drummerjeroensimons]

Hi man, are you still getting up at 6 o clock and see the benefits, if I remember correctly?? I read something about waterfasting for 3 days, that can reset the body/organs well...Moral of my story: we all need to be careful with our health, because due to our passion we forget to take rests, especially in a studio-seting, recordingdays...Thanks Chris for your superb videos and I bought your course of Cubase a while ago!!!! I recommend it to everybody!! Cheers, Jeroen.

[@mixdownonline]

Hello Jeroen! Yes, still up at around 5am -6am and start my day with a morning walk. I agree with you, we have to take care of our health. It actually helps me to be more productive and creative in the studio. Thanks for your support, very happy you like the course! 😀

[@drummerjeroensimons]

@@mixdownonline Thanks my man, go positive and strong!!! ;)

[@rohitragofficial7139]

I am india am i buy the cubase pro 10 but auto not working why

[@mixdownonline]

What do you mean by Auto not working...Give me more details

[@rohitragofficial7139]

Autotune 5 is not working in cubase pro 10 why