How to cure a noisy washing machine motor: Skimming metal off the commutator: Beko WM5100W

This is a brushed commutator washing machine motor.
I skimmed the rough copper commutator bars in my Harrison 11" lathe.
Turning it in the lathe filled the gaps between the bars with swarf so I had to pick that out and then finish the copper with emery paper but it worked and I think it is quieter now.
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[@ddumai99]

Thanks for posting this video. It was very interesting to watch as this was a process I was considering having done on my old Bosch's motor before I eventually replaced the whole machine. I chose to have a pair of new bearings fitted to my old Bosch's motor and I was present during some of the work. When I returned to collect the motor an hour later, I was told by the repairman that it took a lot of work involving a bearing extractor and a bit of swearing. I mentioned the bearings above, as I thought you might consider making yet another video showing how to replace the motor bearings. You seem like the person who has the resources, skill and patience to do this, so I do hope you give it a go.

[@bootsowen]

I would like to get the bearings off and try, but usually the motor pulley is pressed on after the bearings are pressed on, I might be able to get the bearings off but the motor pulley is a very difficult thing to remove. I have done it in another video, It is a huge hassle.

[@Motherboard686]

Good job, that commutator looks even better than brand new 🤣

[@bootsowen]

Thanks

[@TheInfoworks]

Good man, keep going at it for interest and learning. Occurs to me a variac and one of these universal motor s is a good match, cheers

[@bootsowen]

It is a good match, but you still have limited control over the speed if you have a variable load, fine for a fan. I have posted a video of the TDA1085c controller that I have put on a large sandstone grindstone. I think they are pretty good, but they were specifically designed to control washing machine universal motors...

[@neiljarvis8911]

Those stripes on the commutator are mica insulation and the can be harder than the copper so wear more slowly. When new or in good condition the mica slits are least a mimometer below the copper so that as the copper wears it does not become raised above the copper as this would cause the brushes to skip over the copper and arc badly and burn the commutator and cause motor failure. When cleaning up a comm, the bare minimum material shold be removed and then the mica chased out with something like a de pitched hacksaw blade, where the set of the blade is ground off on a bench grinder to get the width of the blade to a dimension the same as the commutator mica slot dimension and then cut back the mica to create clearance under the copper. When I was a kid, this is how we fixed car starter motors.

[@KrishnaKumar-xw4op]

Would you please show as to how carbon brushes of Bosch car washer is changed?

[@Boschwhirlpoollad1996]

I think it still sound very rough but better than it was I can only go by experience from mine they are not quite machine anyway lol good job though you have taught me about motors and how to fix them thank you

[@bootsowen]

Thanks

[@teopas2007]

I would just use the sandpaper

[@kam_mil]

It seems to be quieter! Cool

[@bootsowen]

excellent

[@alk8921]

mate anything worth a play if you get perm repair saves pounds nice work !!!

[@washertech]

That’s a job well done didn’t think you would be able to do something like that without damaging it

[@bootsowen]

thanks

[@The_Laundry_Enthusiast]

You did a great job on that! Could you do a full cycle vid on this? Maybe like a 60 or a 90 wash?

[@bootsowen]

I could, anything specific? Would you watch the whole video to the end?

[@The_Laundry_Enthusiast]

@@bootsowen a towel wash, and yes I would I love Beko stuff

[@abdelkaderbenou4276]

The problem is the bearing that near brushes i tested and it's so hard to get off that thing.

[@dainius9676]

After repair looks loud anyway, I think because of motor brushes

[@arcfa2267]

İs there any easier way to do this, Do it ar home kinda stuff, one of my washers have the same motor and it makes a lot worse noise than this, I will also uploaad that washer’s video.

[@paulhotson5820]

Going direct drive next time!😁

[@chaineadiverscontenus2263]

is it possible to put a brushless motor instead of this motor without modification ?

[@bootsowen]

Not really. What would control it?

[@chaineadiverscontenus2263]

@@bootsowen so it needs a new controller for brushless motors ?

[@justmadeit2]

bootsowen, do you work as an engineer as a job? You are really handy/ skilled at repairing washing machines, motors etc

[@bootsowen]

Hardly

[@justmadeit2]

@@bootsowen Not sure if that’s sarcasm or not ? If you aren’t an engineer you are certainly really skilled having watched your videos

[@bootsowen]

I make it up as I go along. YouTubing

[@justmadeit2]

@@bootsowen ok cool. A question about pulley motors, I have a hotpoint wma 36 machine, old yes but good, what motor can it be replaced with if it fails? Could I use one from a wma34 ? I’ve replaced carbon brushes a few times over the years but curious about swapping motors eventually

[@MrJetta985]

Good work, i think its now fine

[@bootsowen]

Good to hear

[@JMUDoc]

Hi, did you make a note of the motor bearing part numbers, by any chance? Just in case I need to change mine!

[@bootsowen]

Have a look at my more recent videos. I have done the bearings on a Bosch and Miele motor recently and quote the part numbers.

[@jamespassas9441]

Oh no, you've fused all the commutator segments together!

[@bootsowen]

I thought I picked them open with a pick.

[@jamespassas9441]

@@bootsowen Yes, I noticed that later on...

[@computerworksuk]

Great video. What type of screw driver did you use please?

[@bootsowen]

?

[@enver5246]

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[@abdelkaderelbachir3817]

That was a lot of effort for something that you are just going to destroy anyway 😕

[@bootsowen]

oh, you know me too well!

[@LaundryGuy1500]

The motor bearings sound a bit worn

[@bootsowen]

Yes.

[@cheggbr6890]

This motor is from turkey

[@Randomsheis]

Still sound thr same

[@salimaasha6419]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@zx8401ztv]

I had one of those machines, never again!. Low quality rubbish.

[@TomTheXboxSeriesX]

Next up *D E S T R U C T I O N*

[@bootsowen]

What should I do to it?

[@TomTheXboxSeriesX]

@@bootsowen brick wash maybe?

[@salimaasha6419]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉