How To Deal With Homesickness

[@alanabelcon]

My preparation phase was greatly helped by your videos so thank you! It's been 7 months since I moved and I'm still in the honeymoon phase though I have experienced the language barrier issues but even those ate not enough to get me out of the honeymoon phase. I'm loving Berlin! ❤️

[@simplegermany]

So glad to read! 🙃

[@parisssss.e]

I haven't overcome my homesick feeling yet after 3 years here.. although I'm not living alone (thank God) I still miss everything, friends, even places, and spceially my family. I really like the last minutes of it, thanks :)

[@RustyPWNZ]

A lot of Ukrainian refugees now are experiencing home sickness. But we were forced to move. So it is even worse.

[@simplegermany]

Wow, that is so true! I cannot even start to imagine 😕

[@friend2458]

Yeah because other refugees are moving for vocation

[@KevinJohnBusche]

There is another world of there, when it comes to the Ukrainian crisis. My sister is host to (used to be 8 but now it's) 4 Ukrainian refugees. It is strange that an Ukrainian school demanded for the 4 other Ukrainians (One female teacher, 3 kids) to return to Ukraine. I mean, I understand that local kids need education and educational staff is at a premium at the moment. It still is weird to me. Anyway... (Let's call it was it is) THE WAR is unjust! However, a clever kind ones said, "there are no winners in war, the difference between the sides is, that one side looses less than the other. Tons of hugs to all of you!

[@RustyPWNZ]

@@KevinJohnBusche thanks to your sister. She is doing great job.

[@clinicalpsychologist]

I can appreciate that, because you were forced and will go back home. Unlike some I know…. Who came for other reasons, who all have a birthdate of 1.1.2000 🤣

[@sardamdar]

I'm watching videos about migration to Germany for about 6 months now, and I think you are the best among all of them.

[@simplegermany]

Thank you so much for your kind words ☺️

[@autarken]

although I'm not personally struggling w/Heimweh here in Germany (w/respect to this particular video), I love how earnest & helpful you both are, something that's missing from a lot of social media/KZbin channels. Vielen Dank!

[@Javi.vasquez]

👋Hola, Siempre las veo pero nunca me había dado el tiempo de comentar, pero necesitaba compartir con ustedes lo mucho que me han ayudado a navegar estos primeros meses en Alemania y muchas gracias a ti Jen por la honestidad de tus palabras en cierto modo me siento tocada por tu historia porque al igual que tu también deje Chile para poder ser "my true self". Y la verdad es que ha sido difícil, pero ver lo que tu has logrado me da mucha esperanza. de lo más profundo gracias! y cuando un meetup en Berlin?

[@simplegermany]

Wow Javiera, muchísimas gracias por tus palabras tan lindas y me alegro mucho que te sientas motivada e inspirada! 🥰 En cuanto haya planes en concreto para el meetup en Berlín lo anunciaremos por acá 😊

[@sbcin]

Thank you, Ladies; I lived in Germany for 13 years in my past. Your refresher courses in German are fantastic. I am moving back to Germany soon. You both have helped me remember a lot. Thank you both so very much. I will always follow you two.

[@turjo119]

I've been living in Germany for 8 months now. Although maybe I don't feel homesickness to the same extent as others but I do miss my best friends from my home country. I also find the point you raised about changing personality when speaking different languages to be a very interesting observation. In my mother tongue Bengali, I am more cheeky, sarcastic or expressive coz it just naturally flows with me during conversations. In contrast, in English, I try and maintain a more calm and collected manner. In German, I am using every brain cell to talk to the cashier at a doner shop about what I would like in my kebap lol

[@simplegermany]

Haha can totally relate! -J

[@vishalchoure1993]

The last line sent me :DDDDDd

[@Raven_the_Gray]

I really liked to learn the link between nostalgia and homesickness, thank you! This resonates with me a lot. I often feel kind of homesick for a country that never existed, a mix of childhood memories that look brighter through the lens of time and the hopes a younger me had for Germany that never manifested. Something I've noticed can also happen if you stay in your new country for a long time and your memories of your old country start to look better and better as time passes...

[@simplegermany]

Also a very true insight! Thanks for sharing your perspective 😊

[@pat14571]

I also miss my country but I love ❤️ Germany too. I am making a balance as much as possible.

[@magician2166]

It's incredible and so true. Gratitude for an amazing video. 🙏

[@YHIEEDC]

I have lived in Germany for a year when I was much younger maybe 8-9. I have missed it and haven't returned for a few years. My partner and I are planning a trip back for our second anniversary and I have been loving your videos. You are both so knowledgeable and friendly. Thank you for uploading you undoubtedly have helped many settle into their new lives. Much love :)

[@karalove3786]

Thank you for this video. I can attest to the fact that one's demeanor changes when speaking a foreign language. I have been told that I retreat when speaking German, which is not the case when I speak English. I guess like you mention it's exhausting to be constantly having to think about what you are going to say which is the issue for me. I am trying to be conscious of that and try to revert to my own personality. However despite this issue, speaking the language has its advantages of getting to know more people and having people willing to help you out even in English especially when they see that you are struggling to express yourself. It is true that with homesickness one tends to romanticise one's home country and it is something I try to be aware of and avoid. I totally agree that as a new person in the country you need to make the effort of meeting people to alleviate homesickness, irrespective of how you got to be here.

[@479hemanth]

Your videos are so honest and relevant. Your efforts to make us settle into Germany smoothly are wholeheartedly appreciated. Vielen dank ! Jen and Yvonne. Keep rocking as always.

[@SteveWilliamsD]

I've been enjoying your past collection of videos. Perhaps I was saving this one for the right time. I'm back and forth between the US and Germany in the last year and half and it's going to continue for the foreseeable future. This video really helped me prepare for the next time (middle of July). This message is encouraging and very helpful. I want to thank you a million times over!

[@RustyDust101]

Aaawww, that thumbnail. Here, Jen, have a hug. Have more hugs. Lots of hugs. And cuddles. Or get them from Yvonne. I'm certain she is more than willing to help out. 😊 That was heartwrenching. Don't do that to me. Those puppy eyes and that pouting lip. I could almost see it quivering in the still image. 😥😉 For all those experiencing homesickness right now, also lots of virtual hugs. Or get them from your partner. /edit: A little correction on the coverage of mental healthcare by German public healthcare insurances. I am a chronic depressive, and my treatment, both medical as well as therapy sessions, are covered as usual in Germany. I am not certain why someone foreign with a German public healthcare should not recieve the same treatment, but I won't deny the possibility that may happen. So please check with your insurance company. What I do agree with is that Germany has a surprising lack of mental healthcare specialists (psychiatrists, psycho-therapists, neurologists) so getting an appointment with them may actually be one of the few cases where it DOES take a two month period as well as lots of phone calls to secure such an appointment. But once you get connected to your specialist, it usually gets much easier to get an appointment with them.

[@PalmyraSchwarz]

I found it very interesting that even one's own sense of humor changes in another foreign-language country. I didn't expect that at all. I also found it remarkable that if you only move in an expat bubble, the dynamics can be so high that, in the worst case, you find yourself there again without friends after three years. Telephone calls home are well observed, which can take a strange course despite familiar language, because mentally you are no longer on the same wavelength as before. Also well observed, even if you work professionally in an English-speaking environment, private invitations are often denied if you don't try to learn at least a little German. You can tell immediately from your tips that there is a lot of Jen's experience in it.

[@simplegermany]

Totally agree with all your insights 😊 -J

[@kenocontreras]

This could not be at a better time, because I'm moving to Düsseldorf in one week! Thanks for sharing 😌

[@simplegermany]

All the best of luck with your move 🍀

[@iammai83]

Your closing statement really struck a cord with me and made me pretty emotional. Thank you so much for sharing the tips and your experience with moving to a new country. It's given me more space to be kinder to myself. Thank you...

[@ijbarraza]

Thank you so much for your videos! I am an Argentinean going to Munich next month for 2 years (at least) and I have found that this topic was not even touched by other channels. The way you openly discuss it is really helpful for a future immigrant like myself and many others. By the way if you could give tips on Munich or people to connect woth/communities that would be really handy. Thank you and love your videos ❤️

[@carolareiners9499]

Thank you so much for this video! It has help me so much! I'm also from Guatemala and have been in Germany for one month. Un abrazo enorme Jen!!

[@sarahshuler3183]

This was a great video with some excellent practical tips. I completely agree with your tip about trying to improve your German skills, and in my opinion, I'd say it's the most important one. It made me think about my time as a high school exchange student living in Germany. I was SO SCARED to speak bad German that I waited two months before I really tried. Once I switched to speaking in German, everything changed. Similar to what Jen describes, my classmates started incorporating me in more things and I felt as if I was starting to fit in. It of course helped that I was living with a German host family and attended a German Gymnasium, but I also signed up for German as a foreign language classes at the local Volkshochschule. Also, I'd sit down with the newspaper and my German dictionary every day. For me, those more "structured" activities were important supplements to the immersion. Homesickness was tough, but trying to blend in with the German language and culture helped a lot!

[@simplegermany]

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience! 😊

[@shellyleal8549]

I needed this video a lot! Thank you Jen and Yvonne. You are both a blessing in our expat lives 😄

[@redbebe7427]

You guys are lovely together 💝

[@katesenn3258]

Unfortunately, I skipped the first two stages. You just live your normal live and suddenly BOOM, Russia invades your country! You don't plan to move or even escape. But when you seat at home and hear the explosions you will flee and not even think about everything that you are leaving behind you🤷. So you have culture shock, war shock, you are afraid about all people you know. However, I am very grateful for Germany and all people who helped me. I am grateful for giving me a chance to find a job here. And I am grateful for Jen and Yvonne for your job and all these information! 🙏

[@yandelyano]

Great content. Would you be so kind as to consider making a video on bringing one's family with them to Germany?

[@simplegermany]

Thanks for your suggestion. We will add it to our list of possible future videos :)

[@Karam10]

I really am a fan of your videos, I don’t think there is one video that I haven’t seen at least twice. I have not yet migrated to germany but hopefully I will soon. Appreciate all the good work🙏

[@luc4636]

I'm so happy to see how your channel has grown! I remember I started following your videos and subscribed when you only had a bit more than 1K subscribers, and your community's grown so much! Vielen Dank für eure tolle Videos! ¡Enhorabuena por vuestro éxito!

[@simplegermany]

Thanks so much for supporting us so early on and for still being part of our community! 🤗

[@surabhi7447]

Homesickness is a Very relevant topic... Thanks !

[@JackieBaisa]

I had TWO YEARS of reverse culture shock when I left Germany and went back to the USA. I love it now, but there was a time when I really wanted to go back to Germany. I definitely hit the "Adaptation" phase hard core, when I lived there. I didn't even speak English anymore, except phone calls to family.

[@simplegermany]

Thanks for sharing your experience! Wow, two years to adapt again. That's super interesting :). How long did you live in Germany for?

[@JackieBaisa]

@@simplegermany Five years. Long enough to become Germanized. 😂

[@karinland8533]

As a German, if you don’t try to learn the language I don’t mind, but I will assume you won’t stay for long in Germany. So I will not invest as much in a friendship as if you will stay for a longer period.

[@fannychristozova8158]

Yes. Very good point, thank you for saying this! 🙂

[@karinland8533]

@@fannychristozova8158 it doesn’t mean we can’t have a friendship were the language is English, though

[@fannychristozova8158]

@@karinland8533 I knoow, and that's why I said it... But I've also felt and seen a German's heart 'melt' from my efforts and honesty in both languages.

[@AndreaBorgia]

Hello from a recent graduate to phase no.3 :) As much as I appreciate German "Ordnung", explaining to colleagues that, yeah, we have rules too but they're more like general advice made me shrug just like Jen did :) Also, to get in on the German humour for me personally it has always been very helpful to follow shows such as "Extra3", "Neo Magazine Royale ", and "Heute Show". Poetry Slam is also another very good introduction, if you like it.

[@charlottepereira]

So relatable 👍 great content 👍

[@pourdamghani]

Truly awesome video. Thank you very much for talking about such an important issue in details :)

[@mauriciosanchezdienemann747]

Hey, es cierto incluso a veces cuando quieres relajarte en una cafetería y tener un rato agradable. Pero termina siendo una situación aún más frustrante que te deja con la ansiedad de sólo querer regresar a casa. Al comienzo sólo iba a Mc´Donalds ya que podía comprar tranquilamente sin hablar con nadie y cambiando el idioma a EN o ES. Pero de todo se puede salir contando hasta 10, 20 0 30 y seguir adelante. XOXO

[@ebbyc1817]

I am wellllll past the honeymoon phase. Sometimes I just, feel sad. I wouldn't say it's homesickness. Just a sadness, that I can't really pinpoint but now I think about it, may be from a sense of not belonging or something like that. It takes a toll...no matter how interesting .... I feel like this community here makes me feel like I belong. Like oh ok I'm not the only one, falling short, of whatever German standard... I bet Germans got a whole plan for how they deal with homesickness, down to insurance and everything.

[@simplegermany]

Happy to hear that the community that is forming around us is helping you to feel a bit less sad! 🤗

[@marcossanchez7434]

I just got here to Germany on the 23rd so far I still have not had any shock nor sickness Bad I don't have any there day welcome

[@Marymationnn]

That's a very wise thing you said about mother tongue. I've never thought about it this way

[@n1vca]

You ladies always surprise me with how holistic the approach to your subject is and much thought and love went into it. Great content per usual! By the way, since you broadcast in fantastic 4K, we can actually read your book covers ... I think two books should stand closer together, because they are related: "Why the Germans Do it Better" and "The subtle art of not giving a F???" glad its last Word is covered be the Brandenburg Tor. Here I may be generalizing, but we Germans might seem relatively unemotional, which is not exactly true. Showing your raw emotional side it not part of our culture, so what you visually observer might not be what happens inside us. Please feel welcome and avoid getting the Blues by doing as mentioned, mingle and if you live in Munich and like to meet an old warm hearted geeky German, drop me a line.

[@simplegermany]

Thanks for your kind words and open invitation for welcoming newcomers 😊

[@karinland8533]

Yes, that’s true. I was talking to a performer (dancer), she thought the audience (German) didn’t like the show, because they just sat there and observed. Applauded afterwards. She was so down about it. Then there came a bunch of people to tell her in person how fantastic her show was and how much they enjoyed it. I had to explain to her we, from our region and maybe all germans „freuen sich nach innen“ =„have enjoyment inside ouer selfs“. We don’t show it to the outside. We might be happy or sad without anyone around us notecing the difference. She found my explanation very funny 😄

[@simplegermany]

I can relate so much to that! I’ve been to shows in Germany where I’m all excited and I look around and everyone is so serious. Thanks for the insight! -J

[@SportageMM]

Love all the Work that you do! You really Help me have my Integration smoothly

[@anchouse94]

Oh wow, my stages are so off :D Thank you both for sharing! Love the tip about the food - so important! :D But yeah, it´s totally worth the wait, the stage when you feel at home in that foreign country you moved to. That feeling of surprise when you come back to Germany after vacations and catch yourself feeling relieved and peaceful - cause home! 😨Totally worth the time and effort.

[@simplegermany]

Thanks for sharing your experience 🤩Yeah I also feel it has been totally worth it! And oh I feel so happy when I go back to Germany after long holidays 😃. Crazy how things develop over time. -J

[@fannychristozova8158]

So much to say here, and yet so little compared to your experiences. 🙂 I've already messed up and mixed up totally the order in which these things normally appear. As you know, I've been to Germany on different occasions, and each time and place I did experience the loveliness. People were diverse and interactions have all been different, but no matter what there was always this mirror-like mindset and behavior, which I so much love to mention! Always kindness, always look into the eyes and clear speaking. The reason I love to emphasize about it every now and then is that here at home, I keep hearing during table conversations that Germans are cold and rude, and I don't know what.. well, this comes from people who speak neither German or English, and who would sometimes whistle or 'hey' at waiters or others. What do they expect in the first place?! Another thing which already feels like I've been mentally abroad for some time is the views of life and mentality have shifted - I experience this shift right from where I am, there are people I meet often, but I don't have what to say to them any longer. "Where the language is fluent, but not the conversation per se." - YES. To find friends from your own country... Ahh (deep sigh) That's honestly sensitive to comment on here, but just as a little hint.. When I was dating a Bulgarian woman living in Hildesheim, there was this one time us walking on a street and she suddenly whispered to me to shut up - Bulgarians behind us! Eine andere Geschichte für eine andere Zeit. 😉 And another thing you say which is very interesting, is about social media. So I can't possibly imagine spending and developing my social life only around Bulgaria, I don't do it now anyway, but I have acquaintances who live in Germany and have their jobs and speak German and all... but on Fb they only interact with other Bulgarians, photos are all frm vacations here, posts and memes in Bulgarian.. whyy, just whyy? So that one is very important of you to mention as well. Thank you for this wonderful video, and you do include references to quite some people whom I've watched talk culture shocks and reverse culture shocks alike, this is a real thing! Maybe the change within yourself is what defines readiness or lack of readiness regarding homesickness, and of course the most important thing being said by you - "Wether you moved to Germany because you wanted to Vs. if you were forced to, or because it would be temporary." Nope, with all my strength and determination, not about the temporary option here. 🪂

[@simplegermany]

Thanks again for sharing so much about you Fanny! We always enjoy to read your point of view. Love the 🪂 😄

[@fannychristozova8158]

@@simplegermany Yes, I put the 🪂emoji just for you. No one else would understand it! 😄Oh, and about the food.. I hope one day soon, I could share with you a thing or two about Bulgarian food which is quite delicious in its country traditions, but still, in all honesty and I swear to... I'm not religious, I've come to like German food better and I miss it. 🙂

[@moshmoshca]

As always, amazing content. I'm still not in the situation where I'll feel homesick but my partner is and I worry SO MUCH for her. She is facing all these new things alone until we can be together again in a little over 6 months. It sucks to be apart, but that's life (and German bureaucracy). Again, thank you for the great content. ❤

[@simplegermany]

Thanks for sharing Massiel! It sucks when we read that couples get separated for some time because of the German bureaucracy. We hope the 6 months go by quickly and make sure to pack some nice food from home when you come 😊

[@moshmoshca]

​@@simplegermany I'll try but I don't want to get stopped by Customs Hahahaha. Customs: What do you have here? Me: Sancocho. Customs: Mein Gott🤦‍♀ 🤣🤣🤣

[@ni7784]

At 14:23, I think we make our own language when we share experiences together... Thank you for this video.... surprisingly through this video I found words to how I'm feeling rn! 😔❤

[@allansnape416]

I went to work in the former east Germany in 1992 and stayed for 4years. I arrived with no German but I found the German people very welcoming and I was helped to learn German enough to run a gang of English lads on construction sites. Obviously my German isn’t to school standard but I could work eat and mix. So just try people will help

[@simplegermany]

Awesome story! Thanks for sharing 😊

[@victorperlain]

Jen speaks as if she were born in the states, wow. (P.S. specialty stores or specialised - not speciality) 😘

[@simplegermany]

Hehe thanks for the correction! 🙂

[@baumaus9014]

At first, I was mostly anxious with my perfectionist nitpicking to be as ready as possible and the fear of all the viruses going around. Then, I started to feel excited as I felt more prepared. Now I am already homesick 1 month before leaving, because my grandfather has started dying, and now I am kinda afraid of leaving and not being here for when he eventually goes, especially because this will be my first close personal loss. And moving to live alone for the first time, and doing so in a country where I know no one and I can't just vent in Spanish will be...a whole thing.

[@simplegermany]

So sorry to hear about your grandfather! That does add another layer of emotional stress when moving. 😥 Make sure yo enjoy every last minute with your grandfather. There is quite a big Spanish speaking community in Germany that might help you when wanting to vent in Spanish 😉

[@astrodyke]

Thank you so much for this. I feel so guilty for feeling homesick since I know I don’t want to live in the US, and I know there’s nothing for me to go back to. But I miss proper Diet Coke so much it’s ridiculous, and sometimes those little interactions feel like they’re on hard mode & there’s this secret set of rules somewhere that everyone knows but me. It’s been almost a year, and while some days are harder than others, I’ve grown into life here and can confidently say I am doing ok.

[@simplegermany]

That’s good to read that you’re doing ok🙂. I have actually never realized there wasn’t any Diet Coke in Germany 🙈. I’m not such a big soda drinker 😅. -J

[@astrodyke]

Yeah, the only food homesickness stuff I have is for the things I can’t make myself, like Diet Coke and Cheezits, since I can cook well for myself. It’s also a little sad sometimes to go to a restaurant for non-German cuisine only to find it’s drastically underseasoned, but I’ve learned to carry a little bottle of garlic sriracha around for casual eats lol

[@astrodyke]

But the more I think about it if I were to leave I would miss the delicious fresh bread and the döner around the corner so much too

[@karinland8533]

No reason to feel guilty about homesickness.

[@simplegermany]

Omg I know a Mexican woman who takes her Mexican spicy sauce everywhere 😅 such an awesome thing!

[@thaymacgames]

I'm in Düsseldorf for 2 months (just turned 2 months today) and I'm already at the number 3. Culture shock part haha

[@csillasarosi6718]

Hi Ladies, Your channel and website is amazing, very useful. We might move to Germany and you are making the process a lot less stressful, thanks. Anyway, I just wanted to ask if you could create a video with content about LGBTQ+ family life in Germany as I couldn't find anything on this topic yet. Keep it up ladies! Csilla xx

[@simplegermany]

Hey Csilla, we have a video on LGBTQ+ life here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqrUdIh8pp2gn8U 😊

[@Ringelsocke.]

You got to the heart of the matter when it came to language. It doesn't bother me that someone can't speak German well as long as they're trying. I also don't mind switching to English so we can understand each other better, although I'm not that good at it either. But if someone has been living here for years and hasn't (not even tried to) learned German and expects me to understand their language or English, then I do mind. It's a form of respect and courtesy. Oh and did you try to watch a typical telenovela from Guatemala in German? That might be sooo funny...

[@simplegermany]

I couldn’t agree more with you about the language topic! - Y

[@Ringelsocke.]

@@simplegermany I forgot to mention that most of the people I know are thinking of this topic the same way.

[@tianxiaowang3771]

“Like many immigrants who left their homes, they acknowledge that theirs wasn’t perfect-but home was home, and always would be” Excerpt From We Were Dreamers Simu Liu

[@simplegermany]

That is so true! Did not know this book existed. Will buy it 😊

[@playerundead3357]

Smoooooooothly 🥰

[@medyayakob1922]

I know that I have to learn language and I'm so excited to make German friends because it's abusive that there is so many nice German people But the problem is I'm a new mam of two children and everything thing is hard and new so there is a lot of pressures on me and that's makes me feel a bad home sickness all the time

[@jozephkerr2791]

Oh boy how Ivona looks at you when you're speaking.....

[@fannychristozova8158]

Who?? Oh boy

[@SeroneyMatoke]

Hello Jen and Yvonne. Love what you are doing on @simple germany. Could you make a video on how to navigate tax classes i.e how to move from tax class 1 to 3 or 6. Also whats with the Ausweisapp? Think it would be beneficial for foreigners to understand how it all works.

[@simplegermany]

Hey Seroney, we have an entire guide covering the tax class topic 😊: www.simplegermany.com/tax-class-germany/

[@marcossanchez7434]

I got here first I got the pole position

[@lotharschepers2240]

Hey Jan If you have not noticed it you have become more than a bit German. You rate your ability to speak German as a bit evan if your wife assures you that your abilities are far better and this way to underrate your abilities sounds really German to me and I'm an older native German.

[@simplegermany]

😂 super fair point!

[@icabby3185]

i am at the do i really want to stay here and i am at 8 weeks so far

[@rishiraj2548]

👍

[@OK-cs1tj]

❤️👍🇲🇩

[@bryantwhitis6446]

You miss home😯 well tough.luck your other significant spent her valuable time germanizing your body, mind, soul. So you are staying in the republic of Deutschland. 😩😄

[@karinland8533]

Food from home is so important... every German who has missed bred knows that🤣🤣🤣

[@piccadelly9360]

So at the end of the day if you are home sick and you're seeking a psychiatrist and it's just like on " Tinder " you can take your psychiatrist at home if it match with you 😂😂

[@fannychristozova8158]

How incredible is the human brain. 😂They only say one word, take it out of context just to give as short as possible, yet clear as possible explanation, and look what happens! I like your comment because it's fun to read, but we should remember to add that the mention and the topic are as serious as to actually halt people's frustrations. 💯

[@piccadelly9360]

@@fannychristozova8158 You are right, homesickness is a very serious matter. And I suffer with everyone who has this sickness . A smile between the sufferers is like a short pain relief that people need sometime

[@fannychristozova8158]

@@piccadelly9360 That's why I said I like your humor and the word game. 😉Thank you for replying and clarifying it on your behalf! Mental health regarding homesickness for any foreigner is a real matter, I'm being warned every now and then by friends, but I just don't know when and if it's gonna reach me too. ✌