How to Deal with Increased Pressure

[@davidjelinek1977]

Hunted cat tail island for first time ever , walked cat tail roots out ( scouted in spring ) found the scrapes and fresh rubs , set up 30 yards off scrapes and killed a nice Michigan 8 pt 10 mins after I sat down . Needed an east wind a finally got it Nov 18 th and killed a solid buck . First time hunting it and it worked out . ! Beast mode paid off for me !

[@ronsgarage2057]

Great to see the 2 killers back on a podcast again! Great show guys!

[@randysteiff6321]

This is what I was saying the other day Dan the private land people are coming off their land to hunt public since it’s cool now

[@TS1023TS]

I went to Iowa the first time 2 years ago and made that mistake. Passed up on a couple 130s the first 2 days knowing a huge cold front was coming the last 4 days and then everyone and their brother was out and couldn’t get away from people and ate my tag. Bummer but was fun.

[@michael7046]

Here in missouri the conservation dept. Has an abundance of public land to hunt,and private land is being leased to the highest bidder, in 2021 and 2022 i hunted a private farm killed 7 deer, and in 2023 2 guys from wisconson gave the owner 10 grand to hunt during deer season. Which pushed me to public land 2 hours away.im sure this is happening in every state. God Bless.

[@branndonbowman]

Really enjoyed this one guys

[@Yabetcha84]

I’m watching this as I primarily hunt rifle season here in MN. 100% public land. But evading the sea of blaze orange is a fun challenge. Thanks for the valuable info.

[@whipplefilter]

I’ve seen the same thing in Oklahoma. So many cell cams and people walking the woods. I like the way it use to be

[@DRIECUTHoney]

I put out a few cameras this year on public after black powder season. It was a freaking circus and I was trying figure out what to do with all the pressure. Guys are all over the place and they don’t seem to understand wind and sun rise/set. Maybe they will be successful now that it’s rifle season, but they sure haven’t been getting it done with their crossbows. Cameras are as useful to monitor people as they are the deer, lol

[@michaelanthonyoutdoors]

Good luck to you boyz for the rest of the season. I’m tagged out in OH and working on WV and PA.

[@Justin-kv1xy]

I started leaning more towards public land hunting through two experiences. First is family farm access issues combined with my experience of shooting nice bucks 3 years in a row with rifles with putting no work into it or requiring much knowledge. I haven’t tagged a buck since but woodsman-ship and deer knowledge have grown immensely from essentially starting from scratch as an orange army upbringing.

[@T-Mak-s7x]

Great show as always. Josh’s show on out of state hunts was awesome. Missing Jeremy and Ashley on shows. Been a few weeks.

[@dp5430]

I’ve seen army or marine buddy’s get to get to hunt. May explain the odd cluster of state plates.

[@davetoms63]

100% the private guys are all now hitting public and now all rifle hunters buy crossbows and hit it. It's terrible down here where we have very limited small public lands. And 100% all the pressure has moved deer more and more onto the private.

[@ronniemilsap7716]

Spring bear in Montana is almost a gimme if your willing to hike way in. Avalanche chuits, also gotta deal with the grizzlies tho

[@MrSurfangler]

Dan regarding dragging them out, most mobile hunters today have a frame pack like the F1 mainframe. They debone and pack it out!

[@thehuntingbeast]

Thats awesome where its legal... In Wisconsin we can't leave any part of the deer in the woods except the entrails

[@bobalotb6760]

Dan please try massachusetts, especially if you want a challenge. Still waiting to see someone do it

[@swampbucker1]

Quagmire - soft, wet, spongy ground that gives way underfoot; and a difficult situation that is hard to escape

[@Eddy-rq7ge]

Great podcast good job guys .!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@grantgemlo7348]

During Minnesota rifle season last weekend I drug my buck over 200 yards to the nearest hunter walk in trail and then used a deer cart for the rest of the 1.3 mile drag out. Still sucked.

[@sw_hoosier_hunter]

Great podcast guys

[@paulbernitt4280]

I own private land and have permission on neighboring private land in SW WI and I hunt public land. My motivation to hunt public land is to keep the pressure low on the private land that I hunt. Apps makes difficult to access public land much more accessible. I also do observation sits and scout public land to gauge the stage of the rut in my area. When things amp up, I tend to hunt my properties more. Public land also keeps me more engaged in hunting by exploring new areas. The public I hunt is Mississippi River or Wisconsin River access. Because of the difficult access, I run into fishermen and duck hunters, but never deer hunters. Please stop telling people to hunt SW WI! LOL! I live in AZ. Bear hunting in the mountains of AZ is a beast. It is some of the most difficult access and hunting a person can do. Winke has a video up from 2 weeks ago about how to gut a deer....still up....great video. I switched from Montec 100 grains to 150 grain tooth of the arrow broadheads this year.....deadly!

[@jeffsharp2981]

Just starting up the video…hate to miss the Live show, but better late than never

[@jgadventures4161]

Im so used to heavy pressure pushing deer to my spots that this year nobody hunted my local public spot ive had to fabricate pressure myself to push the bucks to my usual kill spots

[@trumanmiller94]

How do you go about fabricating pressure? Go to the home depot and hire some day labor or what?

[@jgadventures4161]

@trumanmiller94 what I do is a few days before the season opens I go in certain sections of the mountain and walk it down so the deer hear see and smell me I also leave old dirty work clothes ....this will make them hold tightly to the cover where I haven't been which is where I will hunt it's probably going to be different for everyone I'm on a 240k acre wma all mountains I mostly focus on teaching the doe to hide more so the bucks aren't having to chase them in wide open old growth where most people have stands here

[@trumanmiller94]

@jgadventures4161 that is a brilliant tactic. I love it. I'm in wv, most people suck so bad at killing big bucks that nobody does. The only people killing big bucks are the ones with a spotlight driving around. I like to get into the thick river bottoms and make the deer come to me. I'll run paracord out 50 feet in all directions and tie them onto saplings and brush in a few spots. Then when season comes and the bucks start seeking the does in the thick bedding cover, I slip in, and call them in either simulating a buck fight or a grunting buck chasing a bleating doe. When I hear a buck coming, to keep him from circling down wind and busting me or cautiously approaching. I will yank on my paracord and make the deer think I'm 50 feet in a different direction. They usually walk right into me. I have never heard of anyone doing this before. Just something I thought of while driving around

[@jgadventures4161]

@trumanmiller94 that is smart I usually hunt the old coal strips I'm in eastern Kentucky so basically same build to the land I will move from thicket to thicket real easy and call especially the ones that atv riders can't get on and the deer get confused they don't see people off the roads like that and even when they realize I'm not a deer they are kind of shocked and unsure about how to escape since I'm basically where they normally would go for safety

[@tyfode224]

I have 12 stands and a mobile setup that I hunt each season. Most are Rut stands. You gotta have many options nowadays, due to all the hunting pressure. There are so many people moving to my region that it's not just hunters i have to dodge. Dog walkers are the worst!

[@chadgoldstein3306]

You taught to many people to hunt the marshes and swamps

[@outdoorsman9384]

Yes I went too a couple of my hidden dynamic spots that I never ever seen humans, literally had 4 guys in both spots , talked too the one guy all loaded up with beast gear, so basically my 61 years of hunting mobile and finding hidden gems, is a no go thanks too the computer hero's. Obviously trying too be the internet hero turned are hunting into a zero.

[@calebstearns250]

@@outdoorsman9384lmao just go back to the big woods now. Everybody is in swamps the bucks are back in the woods now by parking lots

[@jonah-n8l]

Rite! Loose lips sink ships 100 out of 100 times

[@jonah-n8l]

@@outdoorsman9384this is a fact! Went to my most remote spot during the week and had a guy walking a ridge next to me at 8am ! It’s ruined everything everywhere!

[@brob-zy8zi]

​@calebstearns250 The big woods and mountains are getting overrun now too.

[@edcrowell4320]

The untamed guys in wv are great houndsman!!!

[@highcountryelk]

I think with the public land pressure going up there's an influx from private land due to private lease's, hunting clubs, out of stater's buying up tracks of land, people moving into the "Giant Deer" states.. just to name a few.. Also I think big tracks of public get hit hard with shotgun hunters and annihilate it to a degree. All that being said guys will go elsewhere to search out spots.

[@ronnieharper514]

It's a common misconception of how Texas looks. Dan those boys hunting from TX with LA Boys are most likely from east texas which has the same kind of woods as Louisiana or the rest of the south. Most people don't really know that.

[@vikingriverwarrior2515]

our area central wi has less hunters both bow and gun on public..... we have big bucks and lots of big dogs

[@johnmassey4816]

Yo if you really want to know the deal with snappers, let me know. I catch , butcher, sell and cook them. I am a chef as well. Getting ready to butcher and cook the last of the season. Hit me up if you want to see and taste the real deal.

[@kenfernsler6507]

When I went to Kansas 4 years ago I didn't run in to anyone while hunting. 2 of the spots were good. I had 1 big farm to myself. Unfortunately it isnt a walk in property anymore. It took me a few days to figure out. I missed the biggest buck I ever seen just under 40 yards the second full day. I stalked a pope n young class buck within the 1st minutes of being in Kansas. I couldn't shoot because the cedars were to thick. I think everyone had opportunities. 3 bucks were killed out of 5 of us. 1 guy had multiple opportunities before killing. I know the hotel I was in they were running into a lot of hunters. I was going the opposite direction. So maybe I was hunting stupid spots that were over looked. The guys killed 5 out of 5 last year.

[@toddseely2000]

dan ever need a spot in penn let me know near wellsboro pa lots of state land an i have some private.

[@aaronkorsmo]

Where can I find the video on how to cape for a mount?

[@thehuntingbeast]

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[@aaronkorsmo]

@@thehuntingbeastvery cool. Thank you!

[@edwards4445]

A 3 1/2 y/o to me and I'm no where near the hunter Dan is however is the easiest deer in the woods to kill. I see the same ones weeks everytime I go. Gets annoying passing them. Mamma with babies for me miss nothing lol

[@thewhiteknight02]

I have 12 tags. 2 buck. I travel to different areas. Wi

[@Barberx8]

There is no pressure in the wi swamps the same hunters take mature bucks in here year after year you just dont see them on youtube Pressure is not an issue at all unless you hunt by the truck.

[@TS1023TS]

100 deer a day?? Geez that’s bad. We don’t have many butcher shops around us. That would be a problem.

[@TazGrindstaff-g2e]

North east Tn guys I can’t even find someone to even hunt with no 1 hunting

[@bowhunt4abuck]

Sounds great

[@savannaoutdoors]

bear meat is so good!!

[@thebigbuckslayerr579]

You've taught people wjere to go . They just haven't figured out how to hunt it

[@ukjw2]

Less hunters but they are all hunting way more. Also, yea I think more people are going out of state.

[@AaronTurnwald]

My private places werent producing this year. So I spent a week on public and got what i was looking for. I always have public in back of my mind in case i need it. For bow season. I hate gun season around here public and private. Gun brings out the low skill trashy slob hunters that have to grab their 30 pack of beer to hunt with.

[@C.Adams82]

The guy that wouldn't take you because of filming, he has a point, whether you agree or not. Heres why, there are more anti hunters than there are hunters and more importantly they stand together, hunters cant stand together to save our lives. For years hunting media was tnn on Sunday afternoon but you tube changed that and the anti hunters view it as rubbing it they're face now. Im not saying i agree either way,im looking at it objectively. Its not about being ashamed of hunting,its the fear that one day these videos we love to watch will be used as ammunition against us. Look at what South Australia did with the water buffalo video of Chris Bee. Now that video didn't take away bow hunting there but it was the final nail in the coffin,from what ive read. Again im not saying i agree or disagree either way, i just have the ability to look at things without bias, not emotionally connected and objectively. I love hunting videos but i also understand what could happen. For some reason most people love complaining, i dont understand what makes people like that. You could cater to whatever they want and they'd find something new to bitch about. At its core it's vanity, taking something that has absolutely nothing to do with them and making it about them.

[@jerryscray1789]

Non residents coming here because of the cost

[@HolezGT]

Public land has always been busy during rut. I still hunt public early season but that’s it. I joined a 1700 acre hunt club with 12 other guys. It’s gets pressure but at least they are respectful guys and you can actually hunt without the idiots

[@chrisgiller2050]

I don't thank we are loosing hunters . We are loosing land to hunt . And I hate it. I don't hunt like I use to . Because of this b.s . The new hunters have no ethics. They don't care for the love for the deer it a horn braging right pride . It makes me sick .

[@markdemi2164]

The youtube hunters have messed up public for at least this generation .. it will only get worse as most try to make full-time careers out of it.

[@TazGrindstaff-g2e]

U reap what u teach but u selling a lot of equipment tho

[@thehuntingbeast]

Selling products has little to do with it... I have been promoting public land hunting since the 1980s and am very happy with the increase in people enjoying public land.

[@johnoblak9631]

With the price of private so high farms are either being sold at a premium and permission is then lost and or leasing the land. There fore increasing the demand on public. Also your stands and sticks or the saddle craze makes it more possible along with as your said onyx.

[@johnoblak9631]

Also I'm curious why you got away from ground hunting.....I remember your old vids of hunting on the ground at the apex of a chickens foot in a marsh. Why don't you do it anymore,just curious?

[@thehuntingbeast]

​@@johnoblak9631I still hunt ground, maybe even more now, but I prefer a tree for a lot of reasons, so I end up on the ground when thats the best option

[@johnoblak9631]

@@thehuntingbeast my guess is most are not willing to work as hard as you do and go to the lengths it takes to have success on the public,so I'm guessing it will cycle out unfortunately it may mean people quit hunting because they can't get permission,can't afford private,can't afford to lease and will soon realize it is way harder then they expected.

[@pharmfisher5371]

You guys are the ones selling mobile tree stand systems and teaching how to hunt public land. What are you complaining about lol.

[@cryptocreek1557]

Do you guys know why you are seeing an increase in hunting on the public land? Let me think this shouldn't be too hard. Could it be because you two are constantly telling everyone on the internet how to hunt on public land???? Believe it or not people all over the US are watching your videos and want to go hunt right where you are showing them how to hunt. Do not agree with the increased pressure is a good thing. It sure makes me happy when I take a day off and get up early, get everything ready to get to a spot and have the whole hunt ruined by other hunters. Not sure who is happy about that?

[@thehuntingbeast]

Im happy to see other people hunting, and hunting having more advocates... Deer are still there, just have to actially scout and actually hunt. I wish everyone hunted.