How To Derail Modern Warfare 3's skill-based matchmaking Algorithm

[@402THUNDER402]

Link in the description if you guys want to buy an R3 and take back your matchmaking experience in call of duty, use code THUNDER and save an additional 5% (in these sad economic times every penny matters) Thanks for watching everyone 👍

[@_Balanced_]

What capture card did you use for this video this gameplay looks great? Did you apply a color filter when editing the video?

[@Officialmryuck]

Hey I didn't see a link for this device you're taking about that can act like a VPN from how you're describing? Maybe it's my old age so I apologize but yes Im interested in that device you're taking about.

[@hooligan.hernan]

Step 1: uninstall the game and find a better game to play.

[@Robdool]

This x1000

[@Knightslaya]

1million percent agree

[@awake9749]

Worked thx

[@Rukzy]

This should have like 1000 more likes

[@danodudeX]

Or don’t buy it in the first place

[@vincentydl527]

Thunder's commentary video is a gem.

[@MVS_DJGillyGill]

We need more!!

[@Railedzsn]

Yh we need some shotgun riotshield mw19 cheese gameplay

[@vincentydl527]

@@ThunderStruckGaming Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday to u and ur family.

[@vincentydl527]

@@Railedzsn i play exactly like dat in MWIII it was so much fun

[@Apeboy1991]

Its trash

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

Once I stopped buying these yearly trashes, SBMM is no longer a problem. Strange how that works.

[@chinto6389]

Thunder the only dude who makes COD entertaining 😂. Appreciate you, Thunder hope all is well!

[@Apeboy1991]

Youre joking right

[@IamNotTheAnswer]

I've always said this... Add you can see the real ones stays real. Sad he hasn't broke a million yet but it's what keeps thunder thunder.

[@chinto6389]

@@IamNotTheAnswer facts

[@DellyDelbert]

That outro is so nostalgic ❤ When my daughter was born we'd watch your videos together on the couch and take naps. That was 3 years ago. How time flies. Enjoy your day Thunder 🤝🏻🐐

[@BSoloe]

Session joined my friend who’s never played cod before (this is his first one) and first game I went 105-5 on Meat 💀 They really be playing a totally different game than us.

[@mattmyers4832]

I see how your a pretty damn big content creator so I get the 105 to 5 but man do they play a different game. My one friend has a .6 kd and I’m dropping 3-6 kd games every single game besides myb 2

[@iAmerican_Idiot]

Did the same, dropped 125 kills and got shadow banned a few hours later. Activision really said “nah, you had too much fun.” They really don’t want people to have fun anymore.

[@37654]

God damn man if CoD was always like this I’d buy it again

[@BSoloe]

@@mattmyers4832 yeah I abused the Lockwood shotty in the middle of the map. Felt like I was playing recruit bots.

[@jahad4753]

and what were your next few matches like? lmao cause I had the same situation as you and after I did good that one match, our next few matches were ramped up to hell lol. I felt bad for my friend cause the lobbies became hella sweaty and they were getting demolished 😅

[@masterbaiter7757]

Haven’t played since bo3 but still watch thunder. It’s crazy 10 years ago I was 12 dropping nuclears on bo2 sweating after school watching Ali A, now at 23 it’s sad to see where the game is now. They ruined COD, halo, destiny, fortnite, every online shooter I played. I just don’t care to sweat anymore, been enjoying RDR1

[@drunkhusband6257]

Fortnite has gotten way better with zero build.

[@raguvaren5288]

Please make a video showing how to use sbmmoff for better lobbies bro.

[@roncav2078]

Keep doin you bro. Last COD I bought was BO4. Your still entertaining.

[@protoman2260]

BO4 is so trash nowadays. It’s just infested with sweats and if I back out it’ll just put me back in the same lobby so you try to find variety but there is none. Thunder shows you that even in the NEWEST COD there STILL ain’t no variety so you’re screwed either way!

[@masterbaiter7757]

I haven’t ever bought any COD since the last one I played was bo3 and I was 15 when it came out and all the new ones I don’t care for. Been saving $60 every year and will continue to do so.

[@jortepap]

BO4 has TERRIBLE sbmm ... you will see when you play it now.

[@protoman2260]

@@jortepap do you mean terrible as in off the charts or terrible as in nonexistent? Cuz in my experience it’s the former.

[@jortepap]

@@protoman2260 lol .. BO4 has strong SBMM. yes, even without disbanding lobbies. Game started of chill first few games but now its an INSANE sweat fest. No variety.. ALL sweats.

[@MyCoool57]

I’m from Australia and the lobbies are sweaty af. No escaping it Thunder

[@MazeMaker4Life]

I am in Australia. It is NOT full of noobs. Mate, trust me it's a f sweat fest here too. Hell if I perform too well, it sends me into lobbies in Asia with 1500ms ping! Absolutely atrocious.

[@tvrift]

I've had a Netduma since AW. One thing for sure, it will not in any way stop you from playing sweats. You'll have to mess with Geofilter distance. Set it too low and it will never find a match..

[@DB1Journeys]

Amen. Had the NetDuma for a while but it really didn't help. Took forever to find a match or it was pretty much the same. Have a Nighthawk now.

[@killaakevcod]

​@@DB1Journeys nighthawk uses netduma software

[@DB1Journeys]

@@killaakevcod not nearly as "customizable" though. I'm fine with it. Netduma really wasn't worth the hype.

[@nickblood7080]

I found a video last night that explained that the matchmaking is based on algorithms that are basically the same as what’s used to keep people at slot machines in Vegas. Most of the time everyone is meat for lions. The software allows us to be lions just enough to keep us playing as long as possible.

[@goalhornfanatic9449]

I just miss when COD was chill enough that you could break even without sweating. When you could be leaning back in the chair and go like 20-12. I don't think I'm washed just yet, but if I'm leaning back in my chair I get maybe 3 kills. I really can't understand why every game is treated like an imaginary tournament.

[@SEMTEXFRAGS]

I made my geo fence around my area in the midwest. Ping was king lol. But if u want bots, set it in Egypt. I'm still using the skeeter for my streak. I seem to do well with it.

[@Ishmaelyk]

This video made me smile brotha!!!

[@Cosmic_Connectors]

That Soulja Boy clip had me rolling 😂😂 "Word for word, bar for bar!! "

[@gus051]

There was a moba I used to play and I'd always run in to the same people too no matter what time I queued. Then one time I took a break from it for a couple months and on the very first match back it matched against those same guys I was like wtf lol.

[@fmCONZ]

Been here for countless years, never once got tired of you talking Thunder.

[@jahad4753]

Honestly Thunder, I don't think alot of people play free for all anymore. I'm pretty sure that's why you see the same people alot. Cod has become strictly about lvling up weapons for use in warzone and grinding for camos. Both of those things aren't really optimal to do in free for all. Hopefully your router works for you but I think you might have to expand the game modes you play.

[@jastheace425]

True

[@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661]

I remember back in the BO, MW3, BO2 days when they had player counts, FFA was always lower than the other modes. Much lower. I especially remember going back to BO1 after other games dropped, and basically nobody was playing FFA. Maybe 2,000 ppl or so. The number can't be much higher than that on this garbage.

[@asvp__miller1065]

@@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661both valid points

[@shamzam3012]

Im hoping MS does something to help make the series fun again. once they get control of the company next year, cause its sad to see this series just going downhill so hard. Just hope they can do something to help with the issues this game has.

[@bigblueassbaby9074]

Halo Infinite has the same SBMM shit. It’s a trend in the multiplayer shooter genre and probably will be for a long while, maybe forever. Get used to it or circumvent it.

[@MazeMaker4Life]

I seriously doubt it. Why stop what's making shit tons of money? They don't care if only a small percentage play the game - because those are the whales spending tons of money each year

[@eternalgamers10]

You won't really see any big changes til like 2026. As a consumer. Aside from the CoD is going to gamepass.When M$ puts in their people and gets rid of Bobby's cronies.

[@JPDD2]

My first match in halo infinite I went tf off and have gone 1.0 k/d ever since. I stopped playing that too. SBMM is running games I swear

[@nanolathe1193]

problem too is that fewer and fewer are playing.. so with that your odds of playing against new people get smaller and smaller.

[@oOSilentNdeadlyOo]

Damn how I miss the days of KZbin drama over cod blackops 2/MW3 game plays lol…

[@Valueandtime]

Please never stop making these. Started watching you at 15 years old now im 26

[@truthserum273]

I'm from Australia and trust me nobody is a noob in my lobbies, it's sweatier than all of your uploads, and don't try New Zealand their like pro players trust me.

[@katyrebel18]

Yep, also you're closer to Asia where them mfs get down

[@Gr00t]

Yeah if he thinks he sees the same people every game in the US, try playing in Australia as a good player. I see the same people so much we may as well be playing in a private league.

[@jacob818tanner]

Been using the cluster mine and its probably the best streak , it will get me 2 to 3 kills every deployment. i play 10v10 and 12 v12 so i try to stick with bombing streaks like the sae because everything gets shot down. im about to start using the stealth bomber but i fear it will be worse than the VTOL.

[@SorventTV]

i used to love hearing current events with thunder lol when you spoke of the crazy news or just CoD news it was great lol miss those days

[@BrandonTK]

That blocked list thing is sad

[@kohvuu]

That title threw me off when I saw it on my lock screen, had to double check because thought you were talking about railing someone with skill lmao

[@UNTOUCH43LE]

If you really want to beat SBMM you need to look into two console reverse boosting. You just reverse boost two accounts on a separate console. Then while in split screen search for a game with both accounts. Then back out one of the reverse boosted accounts and invite your real account into the lobby right before the game starts. Then back out your remaining split screen account and just play like normal with your main account. It’s kinda scummy but it’s how all those content creators find bad lobbies anyways. It’s not the VPNs.

[@King-wb7fq]

It's called 2boxing and not everyone can afford 2 console with a full price cod on top of that, also you don't have to back out your alt, if you party up with the RB alt and make sure the RB alt is the leader of the party then you're good to go but I have been getting "Disconnected from all the bot lobby lately" so idk what they are doing but I think I have been shadowbanned from bot lobbies.

[@goj9020]

The real way to avoid the rigged sbmm would be to session join a second account whose kd is like 0.1 once it gets into a matched lobby. However, the eomm may still get you during the match.

[@Eptable]

Why does it snow indoors?

[@Dirty30S40]

Complaabout Sbmm and you had 29 kills and the next guy had 15. Now that's a joke😂😂

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

I’d love a ranked system and unranked, like we had 10 odd years ago? Problem is they have that many mtx in games it can compensate for any losses in players and these idiots will keep buying it.

[@mumra0715]

Got my duma coming soon as well, used your code of course. Love the continued content, very entertaining as always!

[@THEXGreaverX]

I’m enjoying hardcore play modes now. Bullets actually do something there. Shooting first actually get you kills!!!

[@BrokeandFamousPR]

Seattle lobbies are pretty nooby. Avoid anything east coast specially Atlanta. They are horrible and full of cheaters.

[@HovyRedgrave]

THUNDER COM LES GO! I missed when you talked about pop culture news like the twitch drama going on now would've been fun listening to you have your own takes on it 😭 just happy to have you with us GOAT

[@georgey2tymes271]

Thunder must have the patience of a god. For him to be playing this game all these years is crazy.

[@dendrantema3331]

He earns money with it 🤷‍♂️

[@georgey2tymes271]

@@dendrantema3331 true but still I don’t think I can put myself through that frustration.

[@waxman9550]

Haven't heard a com from 402 in a while - ahh the nostalgia is real.

[@bluntzilla420]

They need to add wap back into the game so thunder can drop at wap on these sweaty nerds.

[@kalebwhite3210o]

Use the 7 or 8 kill jug with the riot shield. It's a beast. 🤙easily the best and most attainable streak for these sbmm lobbies.

[@BradleyCust]

Mate I’m Australian I can confirm no noobs in my lobbies.

[@ASOGAMERS]

In my experience, the netduma will help get you in lobbies with a lower ping, but will NOT give you bot lobbies. When I connect to a peer or server near me, I get a ping around 6 to 9. The low ping lobbies seem to be the hardest. It feels like I’m being penalized for having a low ping. When I play in lobbies with 50 ping, I seem to do a lot better. The game seems to help me - probably something to do with lag compensation. You won’t be able to find a game in Australia, Africa, etc. if you are in the United States. I found a trick to in order to join the UK and sometimes South America (depending on the time a day) but you will have a 120 to 160 ping of you are in the U.S. It’s pointless to play in those lobbies. You can use the same trick to join specific parts of the U.S. Here are the steps. Say you live in Florida and want to play in California. Prior to starting your game, you need to set your geo filter (I use the polygons) to California and turn the geo filtering tab on. Star your game after this step and they game will think you are in or around California. If you turn the geo filter on after the game is running, it will have your current location. This is using battle net. I’m not sure if steam or Xbox works the same. If you change you location after doing this method, you will stay in California. You’ll have to restart the game if you want to change your location at that point. Every video I watched says to turn the filtering on after starting the game which works fine, but you won’t be able to choose the specific area you want to play in. You will be able to play in the geo fence area around the location you current IP is. Not sure if this makes sense, but it probably will after you tinker around with it. One thing to note is that- I have the netgear router with netduma software, so I’m not sure if this method will work with the r3.

[@jtimagesartDivergentFRST]

Damnnnnn i used to watch your bo2 videos lol good to see you hanging in there OG. The sbmm is brutal. I wish ozerec and skrubkilla still played.

[@DoWhatFGC]

Anyone got a timestamp on when he actually talks about the title

[@robbarnhill3677]

I've had a NetDuma router for years. Can't get into a match with geofiltering these days. The SBMM is that strong.

[@salutations6370]

Yeah geofilter don’t work on cod anymore

[@PenadoX3]

Hey i hope you have yourself a very happy Merry Christmas Thunder. Cheers!

[@37654]

I have fond memories of this map of everything MWII tbh. It was my fav game at the time.

[@sunderwire]

I'm still enjoying MW3 but only because I am reverse boosting lol, the game is great outside of SBMM. The streaks could be better too i guess but I only use the Helo, VTOL and Advanced UAV

[@ekowahyono517]

What is this sbmmoff you speak about friend??

[@sxbmissive]

Always nice to hear a comm from you. Keep being real. 🙌🏻

[@worldofinformation1104]

What a wonderful content! You explained very clearly and carefully! learned a lot thanks to you. Really great video with so much information!! Thanks for the guide!!

[@Slazbob]

I had one of those net dumas and when I set my filter around the servers closest to me, i couldn’t get a match.

[@JustinKelley94]

Is the geoblock going to let you play if it can’t find lobbies at your SBMM level in that range? Or will it act like no one is available to play with?

[@Zombies8MyPizza]

In my experience, the latter.

[@GNARK1LL420]

10:22 Kind of hard to hear those players talk when you have them all muted

[@910suave]

playing the same ppl everyday is the most accurate shit 💀💀. Nothing like getting into a lobby you already muted like a month ago 🤣

[@BishwajitSaha123]

Keep doin you bro. Last COD I bought was B04. Your still entering.

[@Alien_dad]

Only thing about the r2 netduma is trying to log into it and make adjustments to the filter. Pain in the ass and won't open.

[@davidjay257]

I only use my netduma to throttle my connection from my service of 750down 500up to 5 down and 5 up. Gets me teamed with noobs with garbage connections or system gives me an advantage because of my 5 down. Geofilter just made the lobby search super long for me at least.

[@kyleschueler7873]

Been 1 or 2 off the swarm like 10 times. I just can’t close it out. One day

[@daveswaninger1077]

The way I beat SBMM is by playing with my casual friends that I have to backpack. I usually play nothing but sweats on full PC lobbies when a play alone. My casual friends are on console. I join my friends and I fry lobbies full of console players, It's fun. When I play alone it's a sweat fest, not as fun.

[@dblmisterjokes2]

It's not fun playing with you trash PC cheaters that's why most folks on console avoid playing you pc weirdos pc players should only play pc players point blank period.

[@IamNotTheAnswer]

I remember when you said you'd never do live comms... I think you have a great blend of both... I also got the original netduma through you. You gotta do a giveaway

[@rafoqafridi]

Wow this is really amazing video thank you for sharing with us

[@anthropic-misanthropy]

@402THUNDER402 on the subject of commentary: yeah but has any one ever been so far as even wanted to go do look more like though? Shotguns, riot shield, decoy grenades, claymores, bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica!

[@zholden88]

that was some good old school thunder!

[@felixdoyon6546]

The bo1 music at the beginning :’)

[@mrreal1393]

down under 😂😂😂 Nuke🤣🤣🤣 Thunder. Keep doing your thing, pimpip, and stay frosty 🤜💯🤛

[@Isaac-ks6dc]

Been using a VPN for this game. I put that shit on like Taiwan , you don’t actually play against people from those countries , but the high ping search fights with SBMM, and ends up putting you in easier lobbies close by your location. They’re not bot lobbies , still hella sweats, but not as the regular matchmaking.

[@hoogledesigns]

EMP is chaos it removes red dots from sights, it removes player names so you have all team mates shooting each other, but useless in free for all

[@KootenaiKing]

Thunder be low-key shadow-banned. That's why he gets matched up with those sweaty-betty's all the damn time.

[@defin99]

I still play the 2019 cod and it's full of sweaty needs in every lobby.

[@OfTheMoribund]

Remember when lizard squad hit all live networks off on Christmas? Maybe Activision needs a new taste of some old candy.

[@Maxxy-f1z]

So can sbmmoff get you bot lobbies in warzone yes or no?

[@SimpxSlayer-Police]

The ttk, them eating my bullets & running too fast killed the game for me

[@nightgoat99]

using the block list blocks YOU lol. This is the worst game ever made.

[@Shreadington]

Let us know how the new router works. I've been eyeing it. $199 pre-order deal

[@SuperJoeTendo]

Yo how does your lethal come back

[@steveozone4910]

3:00 That guy guessed pretty well 😂

[@TheScorpio1999]

It really is difficult to do a commentary; especially a live-com. I tried this on my channel recently; that was.....interesting. The goal for me, was to explain both in commentary, but also the gameplay itself, of what a sweat lobby looks like. For those on the fence on "should I buy this game?" crowd and what I found out was, trying to do that is like driving a race car and giving an interview at the same time. Vid got 10 views LOL. Maybe it's a sign.

[@OneMeanDragon]

that pop up crap been in since 2019, part thats stupid is they allow those players to still join you

[@DarkshadowXD63]

Lool you would think some of these people were on your friends list with the amount of times you run into them 😂

[@Mikeyobie1387]

On my R2 I use to set my Geofilter to 300 miles . Just so it covered the UK.

[@fkn16v]

Definitely no noobs in Aus. You would only connect to Sydney servers along with all of NZ , Fiji and sometimes Japan/Indonesia Your best bet wold be Africa area i feel. Dont use the geo filter for that thou, use a vpn.

[@mikewright447]

you can set the geofilter on the r3 to anything as it wont matter as you will connect to the nearest server to get players which will then connect to another server which is maybe 500 miles away and this will carry on like a spiders web. im uk and iv set my r2 to just cover the uk and a bit of the eu with the "strict" setting turned on and i still get thrown into american lobbies with 110ms pings , and oz is huge so you would have to set it over the biggest cities and the ping would be at a guess 300ms+ but i suspect you will still connect to your nearest server , so im waiting on the rage when the same ppl show up in your games lol. on the plus side i decided to try my isp router on bocw and the games were terrible the ping was everywhere there were ppl clearly cheating and getting 50 kills a game so i went back to the r2 the ping was more stable during games and the games played better in general , yes you still get the odd shite game but you find out that some americans are in the lobby who manage to shoot you and then run around a corner to see you after your dead !.

[@brandonbursley1924]

So what you’re saying is the netduma is useless in MW3?

[@stew713]

@@brandonbursley1924it helps with connection most of the time and that’s about it. Ppl have a misconception that it’ll give you bot lobbies.

[@MRSNYPA786]

I'm from the UK to, how do you setup your net duma, does it connect to your ISPs router or does it replace it altogether. I'm currently with Virgin Media, so just have there normal router, but am looking to get my own one soon.

[@Minpeace]

@@MRSNYPA786you put the R3 into the DMZ of your virgin router. You can then either disable Virgin WiFi or disable r3 WiFi depending on what you require for your network.

[@Sohailauq]

Can you recommend a good vpn for cod??

[@ztks]

There are a lot of noobs in Australia but there's also a lot of sweats and with SBMM it would rather put us against a sweat or put us in an Indonesian or Japanese lobby instead of those noobs.

[@nathanh2725]

You would more likely get Chinese than Japanese but yeah, that's what a low population spread put with bad servers will do

[@jawon70]

I am 52 years old and still playing.Only thing is that i dont have fun.I am an FFA player and i dont care if i loose from good players.But its no fun,i feel like i am shooting with plastic bullets.Sometimes i have a good game but then quickly there again plastic bullets.Start thinking to stop playing only because off the sbmm.

[@EpicLitez]

been watching you since bo2 love yu bro

[@kszytok]

What streaks do I use ? Well I don't play game anymore but when I was playing I was able to use uav and nothing else as I couldn't get any maybe once or twice second streak . Not because I m a noob I'm a 20 years of experience assume above average player but the game is what it is .....

[@clarkyyy28]

I'll keep an eye out for you on the Aussie servers!

[@SigMatixHD]

Bro i know you came around some dutch folks in the past what time you play i wanna see if i can get in ur lobby i would laugh my ass off

[@briantakacs8511]

cluster, the drone thing, and turret

[@JPDD2]

I feel like the longer ttk ruins this game in particular. Either that or packet burst is messing with my kills. Just takes so many shots for some reason it’s annoying.

[@Tonysoprano0818]

He thunder, big fan from the black ops days, mw3 is the first cod I’ve played in a Long time, maybe you could do a class setup or a vid with the chimera assault rifle ? That’s my fav gun at the moment

[@a_tall_carrot]

I still run UAV Cluster Mine and Sentry. You just gotta set it in a decent power play spot. But I mostly play Dom and stick it on B flag

[@JM-qt5mg]

The sam turret is really satisfying when someone gets a gun ship or something like that lol it goes down fastttt lol

[@a_tall_carrot]

@@JM-qt5mg I may have to try this, I never see anyone run Sam Turret. Nobody gets anything more than a VTOL in my sweaty ass lobbies but I guess with the UAV spam it’ll come in supper handy

[@JM-qt5mg]

@@a_tall_carrot try it. My theory, if i cant have nice shit then you cant either. Fck ur airstreak lol

[@esco737]

PLEASE UPDATE US ON HOW THAT ROUTER WORKS OUT FOR YOU MIGHT COP ONE!!!!

[@rakeshjaiswal6869]

Anyone got discount code for sbmmoffs?

[@MrShanev78]

Ah. Tac insert! What a magnificent sight!