How to determine the surfboard you NEED - Surfboard Selection Guide

[@iampetrunin]

10 minutes of puuuure wisdom. Thanks, mates

[@TandCSurf]

No doubt!

[@LongTimeITWorker]

Hahahha. I have been surfing for 57 years and I am making the reverse progression. My newer boards have less rocker, wider tails, longer length etc. and I am making steady progress toward surfing like a newby. But great video.

[@adrienlafond4703]

Keep going and adjust the gear to keep having fun! Only that matters :)

[@shermanatorlee3549]

So many new surfers buy boards that drag them through the water due to the volume is too low for their body composition and or weight. Numerous web sites can easily solve this problem. When they finally make the decision to purchase their first NEW board at least it performs for them on the take off. Knowing what range of volume to purchase a new board ensures efficient paddling. Paddling all day on a new bird that drags your lower body through the ocean and can not match the speed of the wave for takeoffs is a major turnoff for new surfers.

[@hughmckendrick3018]

66yo and my problem is that over the last year or so, keep looking down at the board popping up etc. Developing into full on kook mode😂

[@ReflexRL]

@@shermanatorlee3549Do you mind sharing those websites? I'm a new intermediate-level surfer trying to find the right board for me and would like to know which of those websites will help me reach that one go-to surfboard. Thanks in advance!

[@klaiejah]

@@hughmckendrick3018 Almost 62, can rip shit once I’m up but popping up is getting more and more hit and miss lol… getting old sucks eh 😂

[@kerry9125]

Great video, but I'd like to add something. Think about the width of the board you're getting. Everyone tells you to get a big board when you're beginning, but paddling efficiently is a huge part of surfing, and if you get one that's too wide it will limit your ability to paddle. You want to get as much of your arm as possible into the water when you paddle, and if you can only get your elbows in because your board is too wide you're not going to get going fast enough to catch a lot of waves. I see a lot of beginners, especially girls and kids, who have super wide boards because someone told them it'll be easy to stand up on, but it just inhibits them once they get past that. If you can't fit it under your arm, it's probably too wide for you.

[@TandCSurf]

Excellent point! Mahalo!

[@ohadzr]

One of the best surfing guides on KZbin. Good job! As a surfer with 10 years of experience it feels you just nailed it.

[@TandCSurf]

Wow, thanks!

[@charleshawk6668]

Nope

[@jtrealfunny]

1:39: Big T&C fan noticing that at 1:30 the host says less fun leads to less progression, less learning. That's really true and kind of new and deep, see Litmus where the guy says 'it's all about joy'. Excellent.

[@TandCSurf]

🤙🏼

[@BigZ_4i20]

Litmus, what a great movie that is, rare tô find those who seen it

[@jonahhex9620]

True, I grew up surfing on a short board as a kid and was able to learn but struggled with progression, especially backside and my wave count suffered when conditions weren't ideal.

[@TandCSurf]

🤙🏼

[@jvdthomas]

The best videos about surfing equipment you'll find

[@TandCSurf]

Mahalo!

[@Chris_barrett_photo]

Excellent video! Bringing in a shaping expert is absolutely brilliant, really enjoyed that. There are so many of these kind of videos online - but most of them are useless. This was outstanding!!

[@sealaka]

Very insightful and this series is very well put together.

[@TandCSurf]

Mahalo!!

[@k1k2lee]

Wow I could only afford a second hand used T&C board 35 yrs ago and boy o boy it was one of my favorite boards 🤙

[@TandCSurf]

So stoked to hear it! Our boards are even better now! So, maybe time to update your quiver?

[@L1felock]

I had to watch hours of content to glean this information... you guys just did it in 10 minutes. wow.

[@TandCSurf]

😁

[@mikesuniverse1789]

I bought a Brian Tudor board the same height as myself 5'8". In about to learn and surf for the first time with this board. Wish me luck. Im pretty good on skateboard and what not. Wish me luck

[@702solidink]

I am learning on a jerry Lopez soft-top board from Costco! when i improve and become comfortable, i might considered advancing to a T&C board.

[@wcc1212]

Surfers overestimate their skills? Say it ain't so! 😆 Maybe......lol.... This series is great btw..... Glenn is a treasure.

[@TandCSurf]

Mahalo!

[@catinthehat8412]

love the pottz twin would be great if you did a episode on that board

[@TandCSurf]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@TylerHanke-he5kx]

best guide ive watched so far

[@blumensteinaudio4579]

Been a T & C fan since the NES game. Still play that one from time to time

[@Aidan.17]

I started surfing a 7' high performance unstable foamy 52L (I'm 6' and 65kg) and nearly gave up I was so frustrated. A friend lent me an 8' mal 95L foamy and I instantly started popping up - that very day I went from white water to small green waves. 2 years later I'm doing cutbacks, trimming turns, pumping down the line and cheater fives on a 7' 48L mal. I'm not interested in shortboards but my wife has one and I still cannot pop up on it to this day. If I had tried to learn on a shortboard I would have given up by now.

[@TandCSurf]

Way to go!

[@assassin7250]

Hey, would you say 7'6 is a good starter board? I'm looking at Mickfanning

[@mongooon6931]

@@assassin7250late but 8 foot would be your best bet for the MF boards. Had friends ride a wave to the shore on their first time surfing using one of those boards! The perfect beginner board

[@josephlee4135]

Learned a lot. Thanks!

[@romainstephan8030]

Thanks for this video which is very interersting ! Just have a question, I am at stage where I'm blocked because I can't duck dive. I have a Fat wombat 6'4 42L, I can do some cutbacks as well as re entry however when it gets too it's so difficult ton pass the break line. Should I get a lighter board to help me duckdiving or is it just that I don't have the duck dive technique? Thanks in advance 👍😂

[@jamesroscoe7555]

I'm not sure what that board looks like, or your height and weight, but I can easily duck dive my wide nose 42L 6-4, 39L 6-8, and even a thick heavy wide nose 6-10. I'm pretty normal height and weight, so if you are much lighter, that could be a factor but otherwise it's probably technique. Maybe borrow a friend's smaller pointy nosed shortboard to learn duck diving technique easier and then apply that with more force to your more voluminous board...

[@mrnosy1]

When would i ride a small raked fin over a large pivot fin? Thanks

[@TandCSurf]

You should start by deciding what type of fin you want for the style of surfing you want to achieve and then size the fin for your weight/ability. It just depends on how you want to ride. A raked out fin will draw out your turns & will give you decent hold in your turning ability. A pivot fin would allow you to turn the board more quickly but might not hold as well in your turns because its smaller. As far as the size of the fins go that would just depend on your weight. If you're a small guy and got a large pivot fin, yes in theory that fin type will make the board more "pivoty" but if you're not big enough to push on that fin then it might just hold more in the water. Vice versa with the rakey fin. Yes it will help hold in the water and draw nice lines when you're turning but if the fin is too small then if might not hold like you want it to. Contact our surfboard factory manager Vance! He's extremely knowledgable on all things surf and can answer any and all questions you may have! 📞 [phone] - Mon-Fri 10am-5pm HST. 🤙🏼

[@mrnosy1]

@@TandCSurf wow, thank you so much for the detailed reply. I usually ride large fins because I normally surf beach breaks with not much lower and figured I could use the extra speed. In terms of weight I probably sit on the medium-small fin scale, but that's why I choose something with a bit less rake.. maybe I'll give you a call! I'm not in Hawaii though unfortunately

[@TandCSurf]

No worries at all! We have tons of surfers that are not from Hawaii that we support and supply boards for! Give our factory a call at [phone] or email them at [e-mail]. The factory is open Mon-Fri 10am-5pm HST

[@shirtlessGraveler305]

Sage words ,,, totally makes sense.

[@TandCSurf]

🤙🏼

[@ThorAxell]

fantastic video!

[@dkilla01]

Awesome breakdown

[@TandCSurf]

Mahalo!!

[@connorm3457]

My first brand new board, was a beautiful 6’4” green and blue Glen Minami T&C Sting, for Christmas in 1978. I duct taped, patched and rode that thing waterlogged 4ever. 💪❤️🤙

[@TandCSurf]

Very nice!

[@marvinkamei7007]

master shaper!! Almost simple Answers!Great!!

[@TandCSurf]

Shoots!

[@michaelrivera6545]

Is there a point for an intermediates surfing where they could benefit to get on a more high performance board model? Would that help their surfing but just making it bigger dims to help with paddling and catching waves.

[@TandCSurf]

Aloha Michael! You're absolutely correct. It's definitely recommended to get a slightly oversized high performance board when starting your progression to more advanced surfing. As you mentioned, this will allow you to paddle more efficiently and catch waves more easily. 2 key factors when trying to progress. If you're looking to find a new board to progress your surfing, our factory manager Vance is an expert at pairing the right board with the right surfer. You can give him a call at [phone] Mon-Fri 10am-5pm HST or email him at [e-mail]!

[@michaelrivera6545]

When you said most surfers think they are better than they actually are ,that one cut deep! 😂 But I am in that middle ground of progressing my turns, can ride a shortboard (Catch waves/Paddle, etc) and have moments of skill where the turns look decent but feel like a big Fish/hybrid holds me back I'm hesitant to try a high performance board in fear of over estimating my skill and now having an expensive paperweight that I cant even ride well. ill def give him a call. 🤙🏽@@TandCSurf

[@Chebab-Chebab]

I first went surfing in 2001. I'm still having trouble popping up.

[@natural_law]

Get a 9ft foam board

[@Chebab-Chebab]

@@natural_law Thanks. I went to Cimaja 4x last year and didn't improve, so I booked 15 days over Christmas at a surf camp in Bali. I improved. I have another 3 weeks in Bali in July.

[@natural_law]

@@Chebab-Chebab $urf trip$

[@mattweight402]

Hi, I have a few old second hand boards laying around, how do I know if they are PU or EPS?, cheers

[@TandCSurf]

Determining whether a board is EPS or PU just from looking at it can be quite difficult. Typically EPS boards are lighter which is one way to determine which is which but not necessarily a definitive answer. You could try asking the previous owner(s) if they know what they ordered the board as from the shaper.

[@WillStinton]

8:12 looking cool is important!! 😂

[@TandCSurf]

🤣

[@wcc1212]

lol.....

[@deliaahlschlager7444]

So helpful!!

[@TandCSurf]

So glad to hear it!

[@Caleb_Kelly]

I’ve been surfing for 13-14yrs now and have always surfed bigger boards. My last board was a 7’2 epoxy with 52Litres. I surfed a friend’s 6’0 fibreglass all last year and absolutely loved it. My dad doesn’t want me getting finerglass because he says it is more fragile and I’m only getting one board. I’m looking at a 5’6 epoxy with 31L. Is that good or too small? Or should I go for a bigger 5’10 with 35L. I am 130lbs, 5.11-6ft and I want to duck-dive as well as I could on the fibreglass. PLEASE HELP

[@TandCSurf]

Aloha Caleb! Our surfboard factory manager Vance is an EXPERT when it comes to pairing the right surfboard with the right surfer. Give him a call at [phone] Mon-Fri 10am-5pm HST. He will absolutely get you all hooked up with the perfect board! You can also email him at [e-mail].

[@Caleb_Kelly]

@@TandCSurf ok thank you so much!!!! I really appreciate it!!!!!!!! I will 100% send and email or give a call!

[@TandCSurf]

🤙🏼

[@WilliamDowns-u6c]

do you have footage of people asking Glenn stupid questions? that could be it's own channel

[@Jamboklaat]

What is max wave hight I can go with the sinner the website says 5 feet? Or thats for optimal use?

[@TandCSurf]

It's a small wave board so although we would never say there is a "max wave height" you can ride the board in, this board is catered to smaller surf. We recommend head high surf and below for a board like the SINR.

[@Jamboklaat]

@@TandCSurf thank you for the fast reply❤️! What would you recommend for me as an intermediate surfer? I have a skateboard back ground but it seems a foamy Holding me back with turns. Im looking to buy a board in 2-6 months get more practice in with rentals. I don’t wanna rush my decision. Im thinking about a SINR or mini beast in the biggest size they come.

[@Elmerhartman]

I got a hardly used 9’ Becker bought in 93…used maybe 15 times, I live no where near the ocean…how much is it worth?

[@pnwpovsurfer_]

Great vid! I really dig the channel 🤙

[@TandCSurf]

Appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@shermanatorlee3549]

You mentioned nothing regarding volume to weight. So many new surfers buy boards that drag them through the water due to the volume is too low for their body composition and or weight. Numerous web sites can easily solve this problem. When they finally make the decision to purchase their first NEW board at least it performs for them on the take off. Knowing what range of volume to purchase a new board ensures efficient paddling. Paddling all day on a new bird that drags your lower body through the ocean and can not match the speed of the wave for takeoffs is a major turnoff for new surfers.

[@UziMusic]

While I don't entirely disagree, I find Vol alone is not the best indicator.. years ago I got a fun board, rounder egg shape as still a year or 2 in and progressing the board had loads of vol ( 40l ) I think.. couldn't stand it..never turned well, no grip, couldn't duck it, it would sit on the water not in it when going down the line.. I moved to a more traditional shape with the same vol and my surfing came to life.. turns ( not like mikey wright ) I could turn it pump down the line make drops on steeper waves etc.. as I've moved forward a bit more I'm looking more at fins and rail outline.. each to their own though! It's great how we're all doing the same thing with such variation in perspective..

[@williamhanley7031]

Looks are looks and they still won't listen to out and but a short board that they can't ride cause it's all about looking cool. Funny thing is people that can surf don't even look at it that way.

[@FSproductions72664]

Is there a good pink surf board

[@jeffjenkins1799]

Your vids are the best

[@TandCSurf]

Thanks so much Jeff!

[@jeffjenkins1799]

@@TandCSurf your advice is spot on.

[@dehaodeng1755]

I disagree with what he said about Poly boards being easier to catch waves than EPS. EPS is lighter, floats better, catches waves easier, tougher, and more ding resistant. Poly turns better and is more suitable for big, hollow waves. But I'm from SoCal and have never surfed in Hawaii

[@martinginsburg7222]

avoid being a kook by basically giving up surfing. Only a kook paddles out at the mega crowds social media has created. Surfing for over 50 years here and it is a Zoo at all the exposed spots, (about all of them). Still surfing, but won't paddle out at the "scenes"

[@splocal]

Man the scenes are out of control these days. No etiquette, people dropping in pulling Wilbur Kookmeyers all day long. 50 guys in the water. Lucky I found an awesome spot with low crowd factor but don’t ask where I won’t tell. 🤫

[@ajj4483]

Same all over, covid brought them all out

[@MindSurf248]

Move somewhere with cold water, even with the covid influx still get fair few sessions in pumping world class waves with only half a dozen out especially midweek. Some of the easier beaches are getting pretty crowded, but then other mysto-spots you end up wishing someone was out with you.

[@splocal]

@@MindSurf248 I know a few cold water spots like that. You want at least a few guys in the water to lower your odds of being eaten. 🦈

[@jamesroscoe7555]

​@@splocalhaha, no risk of getting eaten if the water is cold enough. But the greedy side of me would encourage other surfers to move to warm water places.

[@apachewolfscout]

Love the; 'What's the least important thing when choosing a surfboard?' Some might say it's the same as for lot's of things in Life, 'Looks!. Or he could have said: 'Same as for Books, so for Surfboards.' Good looks they're pleasant eye candy but can be so misleading! 'Preciate the candour, I really enjoyed that comment...

[@TandCSurf]

🤙🏼

[@igorsalutregigagiola936]

EPS means Epoxy? I think it is wrong what he says. Epoxy is more resistant than Poly. I didn´t get that point, sorry

[@thequestlivetolearntolive.8555]

Thank you

[@TandCSurf]

You're Welcome!

[@TonyGuinzo]

Sick vid

[@TandCSurf]

Mahalo Tony!

[@kylewattssurfing3266]

Awwwwwweeeeeesooooooommmmmmeeeeeeeee thxxxxxxxxx!!!!!!!! Beeeeeeeyyyyyyoooooondddddd spoooooot on heeeelpppppppfuuul!!!!!! Thxxxx agggaaain!!!!! Thxxxxxxxxx

[@TandCSurf]

🤙🏼

[@kylewattssurfing3266]

@@TandCSurf Of courseeee!!!! HAPPY SURFINGGGGG FROM VB/VIRGINIA BEACH!!!! ✌🌴 😎 🌴✌

[@wesleyrichardson2171]

Your keyboard is on Acid bro

[@kylewattssurfing3266]

@@wesleyrichardson2171 Yeeeepppp yeeeppp!!!!!

[@toddhendricks1727]

In reality it takes at least a 3 board quiver to match the range of conditions that you will encounter on any given day.

[@danielbarbieri8199]

The smaller board you can take off with, is the one you need. This vary with age, physical condition, waves. The bigger the board, the less you can duckdive, an reach the peak... Longboard is easy for beginners in white waters, but isn't a beginners board.

[@matthewj9832]

China walls?

[@thomasryan5681]

Bottom line.... Have fun! If you're smiling, you're styling!

[@TandCSurf]

oh yea!

[@cashew1]

Surfing like martial arts or dance you don't need to be buff to be good.

[@justing1810]

So basically my fat a ss needs a paddle board 😂

[@akingakk]

Its not about the board its about the surfer and the steepness of the wave along with your ability to get out the back in big conditions, i've surfed a 8ft3 on 6ft waves. If theres one thing this guy got right its the fact that you shouldnt knock a big board theyre the easiest to catch waves with and if your really good you can have a lot of fun with them. Me personally these days Im using a 7ft6 mid length some may think thats big but im 6ft2 and pushing 80kg most pro surfers are tiny so for someone like me to move down to something like a 6ft2 would be difficult and I have been surfing for 5 plus years now so trust me when I say its not a skill issue along with the fact that my country has different types of waves compared to other places.

[@lucaforza28]

Poor guy doesn’t understand how an x/y axis works

[@madsteeez]

I've been surfing for 20 years and don't recommend shortboards to anyone watching this video

[@feelphila]

what are your recommendations then sir?

[@madsteeez]

@@feelphila mid length shapes and longboards depending on your fitness, where you surf and your body composition.

[@k1k2lee]

Foamys are also sick 💦🤙

[@natural_law]

​@@k1k2leesoft tops too

[@delvinbonilla7618]

I shred on all boards,

[@TandCSurf]

Yea you! 🤙🏼

[@delvinbonilla7618]

@TandCSurf I remember back in the 90s I met a lady forgot her name i think it was Iris she gave me a deal on a rejected custom board for a team rider once. I came to get sponsored and she asked if I won any contests and I only won twice ,one was last aloha state games jr men surfing and another a HASA event but mostly place 3rd-6th in finals,she mentioned I need consecutive wins and I'll be considered for sponsorship so I mentioned that if I had a good board from them I could ,and she smiled and said come in here and pick a board for 100$ brand new. I picked a 6'0 and still only made 3rd - 6th in finals lol. Remember this time had all the greats coming up all future champs and top 5 riders in that era. Most of the guys I challenged is now your team captain's,or became champs, look me up lol washups

[@williamhanley7031]

50 percent of surfers are compromising there surfing ability by riding to small of boards. I love it. I get more waves cause they , 1 either can't handle the speed for a turn cause there on to small a board and 2 getting hung up not being able to catch the wave. It's pretty pathetic. People afraid of being a kook. Grow up.

[@nige-cb7jj]

I disagree with the big board beginner theory. anyone who benefits from it is destined to be a mediocre or worse surfer

[@IIIxwaveIII]

let me tell u something about kooks from my 30 years of surfing. a kook is a mental state not your surf ability. i personnaly know decent surfers who are complete kooks. you either are a kook or not. you cant change your kook status