How to Disassemble and clean the Mech on a Rock Ola Jukebox!

[@LyonsArcade]

This is the pin punch set you can use to remove the roll pin! amzn.to/38OFzxS This is the 20wt oil you want to relubricate it with : amzn.to/2UiZ7Xl

[@johnmoffatt1130]

Used this and another video to fix the mechanism in my 1968 Rock Ola 441. The two models (441 and 445) are very similar in this area. I had the classic symptoms - record not laying down properly and the bow missing the record on return to the carousel. The take-apart, clean-up and reassembly went exactly as per the video, and the end result was a fully working juke-box. Result. Thank you for a superb tutorial. Much appreciated.

[@LyonsArcade]

John glad you were able to get it going! I love hearing somebody saved another one of these cool old Rock-Ola's, it can be done it just needs someone to take the time and attempt it :) Thanks for watching!

[@enceladusfox2247]

I've had to do this with all my Rock-Ola machines , I have the Rock-Ola 444 , The Rock-Ola 478 Mystic , The Rock-Ola 477 Max, The Rock-Ola 454, I have a collection of parts for them as well that I've collected over the years. They are full of different genres of music in each machine . Like 80's music in one 70's music in the other and Big Band etc etc .. I love to restore these machines for my collection.. I'm glad to see you restoring these beautiful machines for others to love and enjoy . This will actually help others to fix this common issue . Not many people have posted videos of this being done this detailed for others to follow .. Thank you again so much for the step by step process . I'm also looking to pick up a set of them Pin punches you have i actually love them thank you for the idea, I've always just used regular punches, but the ones you have there made for them with a blunt end should be better for the pin and the inside of the cast. Stay Awesome buddy !

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks Enceladus, glad you enjoyed the video, see you on the next one!

[@barr1850]

Thanks Joe! I knew nothing about jukeboxes. Followed your directions and got my newly required Rock-ola Princess Console working in a couple hours. 👍👍

[@LyonsArcade]

Very cool Doss, when we make these videos we hope they'll save some machines floating around out there, you just saved one of them, great job!

[@alanpunt3859]

Just brilliant clear & precise helped me get our beloved 459 back up & running! Thank you so much from our very great full family & friends as the music reruns to our home once more👌😇10/10

[@LyonsArcade]

You did all the work Alan, all I did was fix this one, I never even saw yours so it must have been you :) Enjoy that machine!

[@alanpunt3859]

@@LyonsArcade Ah thanks joe but really without your very informative video I would have struggled so once again thank you so much! 👍

[@UP4NONE]

I finally redid the power cord for my granddads 1442 Rock-Ola. Thanks to your video I think I can get the mechanics working again. They look different but I'm sure the principals are the same. But before I go any further I'm going to buy the service manual.

[@LyonsArcade]

You can do it, just follow the manual and it'll show you what order everything should work in, the Rock Ola manuals are awesome!

[@edptrs9040]

In the mid 70's I worked in a restaurant that had a jukebox in a store room with about 20 pay/selection stations at the booths. I was facinated with the thing and always hung out when the guy came and opened the mystery big black box. When I hear a song that was in it I still think back to those times. As I recall it seldom had any problems and got played a lot.

[@LyonsArcade]

I'll bet that was a big ol' Seeburg unit, those things were awesome!

[@ThomasNealeigh]

Thank you for your videos - this has been a HUGE help to us as we work on a Rockola model 461 jukebox given to us by someone in our neighborhood. It had belonged to his grandfather - and hadn’t been played in years. It played initially - and then we worked in perfecting it, which meant disassembling the mechanism exactly like in this video - then reassembling it after piling it with the 3-in-1 20w oil. It took a few tries, but we did it! Thank you, again! Keep up the great work!!

[@LyonsArcade]

Great job Thomas, I knew you could do it :) Thanks for watching man!

[@mikemissesthefairway]

This is my new favorite non-golf channel.

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks Mike! You know we've got some Golden Tee videos floating around on our channel :)

[@robfairfield17]

Joe, thank you very much for taking the time to put together this video, it is very informative, and I will clean my gears etc this month. I just picked up the 488 model and it doesn't work, nor had a key. I have already master lock picking, so I was able to open it without a key, but order one anyway. The trick was knowing how waffer locks work, once I did, I picked the lock in less than a minute, and then found the cash box lock key inside. I am hoping greasing the gears will get this thing working. I started watching your videos earlier in the year after I bought 2 non working EM pinball machines, which I have working now. Thanks for all the great videos and help.

[@LyonsArcade]

Bob if you fixed those EM machines you'll definitely get this Jukebox working. The CPU might be a little tricky, just check your power supply voltages, you might have to track down some schematics.

[@dave3159]

One of THE BEST rock ola fix uploads! well done .

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks, we appreciate it!

[@PaulMoore8484]

Got a 478 a couple of weeks ago and I felt as stuck as the mechanism. This video is exactly what I was looking for so I am looking forward to making time to deal with this. I will report back.

[@LyonsArcade]

Very cool Paul, I think it might get you goin :)

[@PaulMoore8484]

@@LyonsArcade Definitely seized up, nothing would move and I have now worked it free with oil and finesse. 478 gripper asmbly is mounted reverse of your video so the two single gears are on the backside making it a little harder to see what is going on. 478 also has that needle brush you mentioned and uses a flathead screw instead of a bolt. After the gears came off, I realized one was cracked and the other was missing some teeth!!?? I have replacements arriving this week. I have been able to test various bits w/o the gears by manually rolling the motors but, I cannot do a logic board test. I see the 9.6 v led lit but nothing else works red and blue buttons on the board appear to do nothing.

[@markjackson1444]

What an interesting video. … I’ve never had a jukebox but have often thought how cool it would be to get one, and load it up with all the great songs from the 50s and 60s in particular. Thanks for teaching us how to fix one.

[@simonlindsayvideo]

Hey Ron, Thanks for a great set of videos. Your presentation style is perfect! I decided to attempt the cleaning of the gripper mech on my Rockola 484 as it was missing the occasional record and leaving it on the turntable. I ordered the pin punches and the (SAE) 20 wt oil. Basically after one day, a very sleepless night and the next day, I managed to get the gears back in the right place. The mech kept jamming and it caused the circuit breaker to kick in and it's a good job the CB was there otherwise I would have got through 20 fuses! When the thing jammed first of all, the basket (carousel) would not budge so I thought there could be all sorts of fuses or transistors or whatever broken and that I would never get it to work again. In spite of taking photos, I still did not take enough - as you would say, "take tons of pictures, people!!!" The cam on the back of the gears on the 484 is for the stylus brush. Happy to report the whole thing is working great now and the gripper sets and returns the record perfect every time. Thanks again. Now, to fix RED and TED'S eyes on my Road Show pinball!

[@LyonsArcade]

Those eyes may end up being harder to fix, LOL lots of little parts! I'm going to do a funhouse one of these days :) I've found on the Rock Ola mechs the pin that you put in it if it's sticking out slightly on either side, will cause the piston to not be able to go in and it'll jam too. I had to file one down slightly once...

[@simonlindsayvideo]

@@LyonsArcade Hey Ron, After my last post I looked at the video again - I wished I'd done it before instead of just looking at my photos!! It would have saved me a day and a sleepless night! "Rewind the video again"

[@falcon3tube]

Hi, thanks for this video! I used it to figure out how to clean out the stuck mechanism on my rockola 436. Many thanks and keep up posting these video's. You've become my favourite channel on youtube!

[@LyonsArcade]

That's great K VW glad you enjoy the channel, we'll keep the videos coming :)

[@seansweeney3532]

Great jukebox video! Thanks! I'm like the only vintage audio tech in St Louis, and I get calls for these and others. I fixed a 1945 bubbler last year, thought i was in over my head when I realized it had a Cobra arm retrofitted and a preamp problem... then multiple mechanical issues... but one thing at a time... if all I had to do was these things, life would be easy, but I'm doing Hammonds and Leslie's one day, guitar amps, then restoring sparkle-top Rhodes pianos, wurlitzer pianos... and nearly all of them carry lethal voltages... sheesh... only got shocked one time in all my years... but that was enough to make me realize that I never want that again! I got my first shock at age 3... with a fork in an outlet! I still remember that one too! Lol. The only time it happened professionally was in a church, working on their organ that was wired wrong from the previous guy... after which I began to speak in strange tongues, much to their shock! Lol. 😂

[@pinba11freak]

Thanks for the video. I got a Rockola jukebox that plays CDs that hasn't worked in years. It's made very similar to this, so finally I know how to take it apart to clean it.

[@LyonsArcade]

Yes I'm not sure but I think the cd gripper arm is very similar.

[@hallmark1953]

Great video. This video gave me the confidence to attempt this process myself. After watching the video I was able to complete the process and ended up with a working machine.

[@kenwheatley9054]

Joe...thanks for this great tutorial video. I have a Rockola Regis 120 but the mechanism in your model is mostly the same. The whole thing was totally frozen, I even had to make a kind of 'punch' out of PVC pipe to get the cylinder out. You vid was very helpful in the process. Tx!

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks Ken, I'm glad it helped! When I shot it I was thinking hopefully it'd fix a couple boxes, glad to hear the feedback!

[@Chuck-RETROGAMECAVE]

Great video Joe. Yes. Do it right the 1st time. Take it apart. Clean everything. Re-assemble with proper lubrication.

[@LyonsArcade]

it just makes it where you don't have to screw around with it anymore. I've fixed them before by dumping oil all over them but you still have to mess around with it for a couple hours and then it's still not 100%. I think I took this one apart and reassembled it in less than 2 hours.

[@pattic3799]

@@LyonsArcade Hi, my gripper arm freezes after it returns the record to the magazine. I have no way to take the gripper apart as it is way above my skill level. You say you fixed it before with oil, will that work? I have been trying to fix this by oiling it for days and it almost works. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[@LyonsArcade]

@@pattic3799 It will probably work eventually, you have to add oil then move it back and forth a little bit to get it to penetrate down into whatever part of the grease or oil is dried up and gummy. Eventually it will free up and run right.

[@pattic3799]

@@LyonsArcade Thank you. I will keep trying. Going to try using Tri Flow to try to get rid of the gunk. Thanks again for the response.

[@albertocroci6107]

Hey Joe, thanks a lot for this video .... I bought a RockOla 460 completely stuck and thanks to this guide (and a couple of friends :-)) I was able to get it working again following your needful instructions. Thanks MAN!!! Really appreciated!

[@kjemradio]

Do not ever use WD-40 for lubrication on gears folks (as Joe pointed out someone had probably done in the past). It's a detergent based solvent (it's not a penetrating lubricant). Use proper gear oil for jobs. Also a little goes a long which means less mess. :-D

[@LyonsArcade]

Preach brother :) WD 40 is the bane of my existence :)

[@OhRonaldo]

I never was able to find this... youtube just recommended it hahaha! Well, they got SOMETHING right. Now I'm off to watch it. Awesome!

[@johnl43160]

About to do this with my Rockola 460. Praying it works!! Thanks for the awesome and informative video!

[@LyonsArcade]

johnl43160 did you fix it yet 😉

[@johnl43160]

@@LyonsArcade @Joe's Classic Video Games I wish lol. If I lived closer to you I would have you do it!! Lol. Do you do house calls to Ohio? No? Haha. I'll keep you updated.

[@johnl43160]

@@LyonsArcade Soon! I've got a pin punch, some metal cleaner and some elbow grease.....let's see what happens. your video is my guide! :)

[@LyonsArcade]

You'll get it. Worst case you'll break it and have to fix it, oh wait it's already broke :)

[@ronsebay]

Positively the best demonstration of this mechanism that I have seen. I am still a little concerned about the oil / grease to use. This is for a home use CD8 Nostalgia Bubbler. I sure don't want oil to seep out on the computers or CDs. I am torn between oil and a white lithium grease. BUT, great job.

[@LyonsArcade]

I've had some old timers tell me 20wt oil, but I think lithium grease would work, it's worth a try. Worst case, you just take it back apart and redo it :)

[@TheShivABC]

A good cheap fix if you can't source the part for the wow and flutter is to take a silicone or rubber squared edge o-ring and replace the rubber ring on the deck spindle for the turntable, just glue it down so it doesn't slip

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks Mike, I appreciate the tip!

[@ssranch6017]

That works on my rock-ola now to tackle the amplifier thank you sir

[@LyonsArcade]

Thank you for watching!

[@LoneWolfZ]

Me and my roommate just got a supersound 2 on craigslist for free, even full of records (wonderful 80s!). It had spend some time outside, but not too much, and I'm 101% sure these videos are going to help getting it nursed back to health. Oh yeah, it even has the funky tray bill acceptor. Do you know where to get a new stylus for the arm?

[@LyonsArcade]

Yes, good score..... you can get stylus and things at www.JukeBoxParts.com ....

[@LoneWolfZ]

@@LyonsArcade Thank you so much! I was finding most of the parts it needs, but this place has almost all of them at better prices!

[@TreadwellJay]

The squeaking cage bothers me a little. I guess if it works it works. :) Do you change the needle? Thanks for another interesting series!

[@LyonsArcade]

The squeaking cage ended up being the motor that turns the cage, I took it apart and oiled it and stopped the squeak. Yes we put a new needle in all of them... but to be honest, I've never once had that make them sound any better, lol.

[@ponakai]

Thanks for showing this instruction.

[@LyonsArcade]

Glad it was helpful!

[@DeadKoby]

There's a yellow basic lithium grease that isn't super thick. It comes in a can and can be bought cheap enough at the auto parts store. That should be OK for this application also.

[@LyonsArcade]

I'll look into that Koby, thanks!

[@jaredgudenkauf7357]

GOOD video. i have rockola 460 and has been working great until the the needle just moves across to the end of the record. wondering if i have a bad needle or if something else is causing this.

[@jeangade5809]

"Have to be very careful" next step: BIG ASS HAMMER AND A SCREWDRIVER. LOL 😂😂😂 but you got the job done 👍👍👍

[@LyonsArcade]

Hey, sometimes even when you're careful you need a BFH LOL

[@doubleslit9513]

Great advice “Don’t start this job if you don’t have time to finish it. “.

[@alfreddill3251]

Love your videos. My Rockola is 1970. Turn it on and the platter moves only. Hit scan, and it makes a strange buzzing noise. Buzzing noise coming from wipers, I think. Can I get some advise? Do you think it may stem from the same mechanism that you cleaned in this video? Thank you for your help.

[@LyonsArcade]

You've got about a 80% chance the problem is the mech is gummed up like on this box. I'd try turning the knob on the end of the motor by hand and see if anything moves by doing that, if it's hard to do disassemble it like we did and it'll probalby get you going. You probably also need to clean the pcb that the wipers ride on so they conduct as they should.... the good news is these are very resilient boxes, don't buy any parts for it until you're positive the part is definitely dead, usually cleaning and oiling them will get the entire thing working again with NO PARTS. I see people buy new motors all the time, it never fixes them.

[@alfreddill3251]

@@LyonsArcade Thank you very much! I will give it a go!

[@vintageschoolstv]

Thanks for such a great video! I have a Rockola 490-2 in excellent working order, but with just one problem. . .it won't load a record. Everything else is perfect, it scans, stops at the right number record, but just doesn't put it on. I've manually turned the motor by hand underneath, to get it to pick up and play, which it did, (I gave myself a sore finger!), and when the record has finished, it picks it up and puts it back really smoothly. So it the motor works in reverse, but has no power in forward. Do you think this could be a problem with the micro switches, or maybe the brushes in the gripper motor? It's such a shame as it's a great bit of kit. Regards from the UK :)

[@LyonsArcade]

I don't think it's the motor, like you said it works one way, the way they reverse the motor is they just reverse the polarity of the voltage so the motor is fine. When it gets to the record, there is a cam switch that allows the power to switch from the basket to the mechanism, if that's misadjusted it might do that. You need to find a copy of the manual, it describes what order everything works in from start to beginning, so you read through it until it says 'the arm stops over the correct record' blah blah blah and whatever it describes happens next must have an issue since it doesn't pick the record up. It may be a switch, or a relay in that box under the turntable may be dirty.

[@thelabpack7599]

One more question when putting back together and you put the center shaft back in that the gear mounts to is it supposed to be able to fully free spin. Mine seems to get caught up cant spin 360 almost like the metal got warped or something if that makes sense?

[@LyonsArcade]

it should spin around but not if the gripper bar is in it of course. But yes there shouldn't be anything in it, as long as the gear isn't installed it should freespin. You may be able to place it on a table and roll it looking to see if it's warped, sometimes people would grab things and bend them by hand, or the motor may have even bent it trying to turn it while it was gummed up.

[@bheasy1]

Thank you so much for this detailed video! Bout to be confident doing my 446! =)

[@LyonsArcade]

Glad it helps, once you mess with it a little bit you'll see how it all starts moving right and doing what it should do when you put it all back together.

[@seeburgbob1]

Thanks for the video it is very informative unfortunately the guy that owned it before me took pliers to the gripper pieces and they do not move smoothly at all. it is a beautiful 1484 wall mount and I need to find a whole upper gripper assembly. I also have a 430 wall mount jukebox that suns like a swiss clock.

[@retrorabbitstudios]

such patience!

[@markyounie3571]

Thanks for the video, but I need help. I decided to follow the instructions from this video, because my 440 would grab the wrong record, or miss the record about 10% of the time. Now, after disassembling and cleaning the gripper arm and gears, it works only about 10% of the time. The gripper arm is not smooth as it operates; very jumpy. The record falls out almost every time. Since it does work, once in a while, I must have reassembled it correctly, but I don’t know how to fix this new problem. I used 3 in one 20 weight oil. Please help

[@LyonsArcade]

There's different sequences as it moves, for instance it pulls the center piston in first to grab the record, then it starts lifting the record, then it turns it, etc. which area is it jerky in? if it's grabbing the wrong record out of the basket, the basket probably needs centered, there's an adjustment in the manual that shows how to get it to line up directly over the record when it grabs it. If this adjustment is wrong, sometimes when it hangs the record up the record will hit the side of the basket, those metal cage arms.

[@markyounie3571]

Ok, I took it apart again and reassembled it. It seems to be working better. I have discovered that the jumpiness is the gripper motor not connecting tight to the gear. The three bolt, which hold it are tight, but it still skips over some gears. The other issue is the 45s play slow. I ordered new grommets to replace the old ones.

[@russellgibson3070]

im getting ready to do my 71 seeburg usc2 . I've been a lil intimidated about disassembling all the gummed up moving parts to clean since i've only worked on pins and vids. the mechs between manufacturer's should be a similar set-up. Correct??

[@LyonsArcade]

Russell, to be honest they are completely different, not even close to similar. You would think they'd all be about the same, but they all had patents and sued each other.... so Seeburg made theirs not even close to the same. The big difference is the Rock Ola uses a basket and the records spin around, then the arm puts the record down on the turntable. Seeburg brilliantly made the records in a rack, and the turntable actually moves to the place in the rack that the record is, then plays the record standing straight up and down! The good news is all the Seeburgs were the same for 40 years, it was a nearly perfect design. There is a shaft inside the mech though that gets gummed up like the Rock Ola issue so yes the best way to get it going again is to disassemble the mech. I'd imagine there's some videos on youtube showing it, but unfortunately it is a bigger job than this. One of these days I'll do some Seeburgs and film how to do it if you haven't gotten around to it by then :)

[@jcost0099]

I just came across a 1970 Rock ola 444 and will be refurbishing it. This video was very helpful for my planning. Now, we will see how execution goes. I was curious as to how you were rotating the motor manually to align the gear teeth for removal. I think I get it, but will have to go out and experiment. Oh, where did you find the diagrams and schematics? Got a link or can you share a pdf of them?

[@LyonsArcade]

The way I turned the motor is there is a little knurled knob on the bottom of the motor, you can turn with your hand it just takes many revolutions. You can get the manual from here: www.scribd.com/doc/69183603/ROCK-OLA-442-443-All-Files-Combined

[@jcost0099]

@@LyonsArcade thanks! yeah, I figured out the knob pass thru turning.. but didn't want the blisters that you got! So, I loosed the mount and separated the drive gear from the main spindle. Once loose, I could easily maneuver to check alignments. It was a b*tch to get apart, but once I did I was able to clear the decades of "guck". The whole mechanism is smooth under my power, but I goofed up and put the end piece (part #20) on 180deg out of order and it wouldn't clear correctly. I also took apart the two motors to clean the brushes, copper, magnet, and contacts. We'll see what happens this weekend when I have time to continue. Love your vids tho! I just need to order the manual.

[@jcost0099]

@@LyonsArcade Does the model 444 use the same manual as the 442 and 443?

[@icesecurity]

Help, I have the 454 Rock-ola I just took my grab arm assembly apart, someone obviously took it apart before and low and behold, NO spring inside , where can I get one ? Thanks, John

[@LyonsArcade]

There may be one on ebay, look in the jukebox parts section or you can buy parts from www.JukeboxParts.com .

[@amnijaofficial]

Probably a dumb question, but I have a Mystic 478 but I can’t get it to stay open. It was just given to me so I have no clue what I’m doing. Do I just place a stick in it so it will stay open? Otherwise I have to hold it open and it makes it impossible to work on it.

[@LyonsArcade]

There is usually on most machines on one side or the other a bar attached to the door (the top)... and then it goes down into a plate with a hole in it on the side of the machine, the end of the bar has a little hook on it so it stays in place propping the lid up. that piece may be missing on yours...

[@olive6382]

Just got my jukebox back from being restored and it’s been dropping records intermittently. 😑. Unfortunately the guy that did the restoration lives 3 hours from me. I’d have thought he would have done what you’re doing in this video. Are there any other reasons the gripper arm might be dropping records? It mainly happens when it try’s to move the record from the turntable back to its slot. Also I cleaned every record before putting them in the JB and just now the gripper dropped the record before it got to the turntable, when I removed the record it had “gunk” oily rust on it. 😳

[@LyonsArcade]

He probably sprayed oil or wd-40 all over it to free it up, I used to do that too but just like it shows in this video, you need to clean all that stuff out or it will drop records when it tries to pick them up and put them back... If it's dropping them before it gets to the turntable it may just be a fluke with that one record being slightly smaller than the others or warped a little bit, or it may be that the basket needs adjusted slightly, it's picking them up slightly off center (the basket isn't centered under the bow when it gets to position)

[@jetsetter52]

Wow..... you should set up a jukebox repair school

[@kencekosh2127]

Great job.

[@williamnichols1080]

My 478 the gripper bow and mechanism shows no play,seems tight could this be my problem,when running the basket I hear a couple relays clicking and no movement in the mechanism at all?

[@LyonsArcade]

I would think yes this is your problem. it's been the problem on every Rock Ola I've ever messed with....

[@NikkiWalters653]

Hopefully the next time you have to do this, it will be a lot easier for you because you’ll know how to attack it and you’ll have the right tools

[@kevinewald8769]

have a 484 and will not return when finished. any advice?

[@davemrstik7263]

Thanks. I have a 435.

[@russellgibson3070]

thank you for responding back. love the vids

[@LyonsArcade]

No problem Russell, good luck with that Seeburg, you can get it up and doing it's thing, just go slow and take pictures.

[@memyopinionsche6610]

That's how you rolla.

[@danijelcar5184]

Nice Job 👍

[@LyonsArcade]

Thank you Danijel!

[@thelabpack7599]

How did you turn the motor in order to get the last gear off?

[@LyonsArcade]

There is a knob on the bottom of the motor that you can turn by hand to get it all to spin if it's not locked up too much. If it is locked up too much, you can take the motor off which disengages the gear and allows you to turn it all by hand too.

[@thelabpack7599]

Joe's Classic Video Games i will try that later im working on my rock ola ultra but its reversed so its hard to see the gear since its what your doing but gear faces that back wall of juke box with not much room to see!

[@LyonsArcade]

I know what you mean. I think they expected the operators to pop the whole mechanism out of the cabinet but that's a big pain...

[@memyopinionsche6610]

The terms Grease oil and lube all means the same Thing right.

[@LyonsArcade]

Technically they're a little different but I'm using them all interchangeably... Grease is usually heavier 'weight' stuff that's a solid like Vaseline... oil is usually more light weight stuff like a liquid, and lube is used to describe any kind of lubricant

[@memyopinionsche6610]

Oh OK. Thanks for the video.

[@kevinewald8769]

have a 484 . it will not return when finished playing. any advice?

[@LyonsArcade]

Does it return if you hit the cancel button on the back?

[@martinweber3898]

How to bypass coin mechanism on a Rockola 464

[@tech45]

IF IT WORKS, YOU DID IT RIGHT:(

[@phillip5245]

The ayatollah of the Rock Ola!

[@LyonsArcade]

Watch out, I might have to put you on THE LIST

[@jayclark5538]

I have a chance to buy this unit for 75 bucks... Guy said it turns on but nothing moves... I think I'm gonna give ita go

[@LyonsArcade]

You can do it!

[@williamcooper2368]

As JOE would say. IT'S BROKE.

[@berendkok6629]

Im sorry but. Its not my way of working. , for a good job remove 4 screws and take the complete part out and revise it on A work bench , much les work and much more profit work.