How to do an alignment on a car at home using only a tape-measure!!! (And Alignment Basics)

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Daring Motors

Daring Motors

3 жыл бұрын

Basic how to for aligning the toe of a car. Not the steps to complete a full alignment but is helpful for the most adjusted part on the front end
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@ryanlewis8093
@ryanlewis8093 8 ай бұрын
My father was a mechanic for many, many years of his life. He used to primarily do wheel alignments. I would go into the shop on the weekends and after work, and I always remember watching him doing alignments manually. There was this pit, with a rack that you could pull a car onto so the front half was completely accessible, and then he would mount these reflectors on the wheels, turn a spot-light on, and it would reflect the beam of light to a gauge at the front of the pit, which would give you camber and toe readings. I know it was a John Bean product (because his signature was on it) and there was this section on the front called "Mathematics of Alignments" which had all kinds of formulas and information for the figuring out the alignment angles. It was way over my head at the time (I was in the eight grade, I think). Decades later, and I am replacing the entire front end of my car (crossmember, inner/outer tie rods, sway bar bushings and links, ball joints, and wheel bearings (probably the whole hub and knuckle, tbh). However, I live an hour's drive away from the nearest place that does alignments. Then I got to thinking about my dad and how he used to do this stuff and figure it out by hand and I reasoned that there must be some way that one can do this yourself without thousands of dollars of equipment or hundreds of thousands of dollars in specialized computers. So I started researching it and here I am. Rest in peace, old man! You've taught me more than you will ever know.
@funtimeproductions5121
@funtimeproductions5121 6 ай бұрын
Amen to that Brother 👍
@JayMaverick
@JayMaverick 6 ай бұрын
About that expensive equipment in shops - every time I've taken a car to the local professional shop with modern equipment to get a wheel alignment, they've done a shitty job. Either car pulls to one side or the wheel isn't straight. And it's 100€ a pop. What good is all this expensive equipment if the result is crap?
@jodinepratt2568
@jodinepratt2568 6 ай бұрын
I wish I grew up doing stuff like this! my partner grew up on the rez was fixing tractors, trucks, cars everything learned by himself and friends from watching the old uncles and mostly trial and error and they had a ton of fun working on their own vehicles together, pranking each other etc!! Gonna try learn how to replace some parts and then use thia method for alignment on my 2007 Cobalt with his help and experience! hoping the stars align for it!!
@kari-tapiohaavisto4090
@kari-tapiohaavisto4090 6 ай бұрын
"Go to the local Bank, they can explain the good in the expensive equipment with poor quality. Might be they end up ditching the question, but they know the answer."@@JayMaverick
@DL101ca
@DL101ca 4 ай бұрын
You sure it wasn't made by Jim Beam ?😂
@wolfyklaus4837
@wolfyklaus4837 10 ай бұрын
Nice video pretty much explains what's going on in the front end. I am 60 years old auto mechanic my whole life I went to school for front end alignment Auto and Diesel. Your videos shows what's going on. With this method even if it is not perfect but if you get it as close as you can you're probably doing a better job then the new guy at the repair shop setting the tow and letting it go. All you Old-Timers know what I mean by that phrase. Pretty much you'll be close enough and will stop wearing out tires thumbs up my friend👍
@dzacek008
@dzacek008 9 ай бұрын
you talk well, but as an old mechanic, I answer that the CV Joint Boot should be replaced at the same time ..
@speedy-cc
@speedy-cc 3 жыл бұрын
I have used this method for years. I never had an issue with uneven tire wear, and exceeded tire wear expectations.👍
@williamgrissom9022
@williamgrissom9022 Жыл бұрын
@@S-O-T Plus add a little windage for not being able to go up to the half-height of the tire, at least on most sedans. Ex. if you can only go up 1/4 height then set 1/16" toe-in to get a 1/8" spec. On my cars I get maybe 1/3 height, so not a big difference.
@beckyconger8175
@beckyconger8175 Жыл бұрын
... o of
@watchmanexpert
@watchmanexpert Жыл бұрын
Question I have lifted truck and the shop did alignment and I can see the toe is out , i mesure and is 1/4 different out , rear front tires 84 , front 84 1/4 the difference is to much ? The shop said a is ok but I can see the tire is out
@puggles56
@puggles56 Жыл бұрын
Umm what about camber and castor adjust??? Was never even done!!
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 Жыл бұрын
@@puggles56 Rick, most shops with all the fancy laser alignment rigs, still only do toe in adjaustments on the front and rears... on my car, you can rotate the strut mounts to change caster and camber angle but you gotta loosen 4 nuts, drop the strut slightly and rotate it.. they dont want to be bothered and will tell most people its not adjustable..
@greenbudkelly2820
@greenbudkelly2820 Жыл бұрын
Works great. I’ve been doing this for many years. 1/8” toe in for 32” tires on a RWD is just about right for good handling and good wear.
@mgkooo4083
@mgkooo4083 11 ай бұрын
Nice work..
@MrPhotographer77
@MrPhotographer77 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Great work! I'll be using this method from now on!
@faloo0
@faloo0 Жыл бұрын
You sir are a saint and a scholar. Most strategic and straightforward video I have seen on the subject. 😊
@xbrian917x
@xbrian917x 2 жыл бұрын
This works great just did it on my Lincoln town car drives perfect and straight steering wheel I just did the exact same measurements in front and back and seemed to work just fine
@USdefender1
@USdefender1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this with us. Even though some people are griping about little things most of us really appreciate this info.
@alexgelhorn4277
@alexgelhorn4277 9 ай бұрын
Great video! My only suggestion would be to find center on the vehicle, use a plumb bob and measure off each tire to center. This is because one tire may be out more than the other. And when your tolerance is 1/16th, every 1/32 counts.
@danielgoodman3578
@danielgoodman3578 7 ай бұрын
This makes sense. Thank you. I hope to be able (financially) to buy replacement outer tie rod ends for my car, but I don't want to try to fit in the cost of a shop's alignment. I don't own a plumb bob, but if I can't afford one, I could do a makeshift plumb bob perhaps. The challenge would be making whatever pointed thing hang from the string. However I see one issue: You'd have to make sure the vehicle is on level ground from side to side. If you're not, the plumb bob will hang off center.
@zlatkozivkovic8884
@zlatkozivkovic8884 6 ай бұрын
You'd need to find a center between front and rear wheels in order to be accurate, because your other parts might be out for a few mm's, enough to throw you out of true center.
@jackdenial1500
@jackdenial1500 5 ай бұрын
Now, that really help to make this video to have sense and logic; while watching the video my logic kept telling me, how does he know, how much toe in, he will have to adjust because each tire could be off already. And without a point of reference, it could get worst and worst. I'm used to doing it on a line alongside the car to tell the difference between the tire's angles. But yes, your suggestion help clear up this technique a lot that the uploader did not mention. Thanks
@bornalbertan5701
@bornalbertan5701 5 ай бұрын
How are you finding true center of your vehicle? Also unless the vehicle is perfectly level, your plump bob will be out.
@terryhill4732
@terryhill4732 4 ай бұрын
I believe if you check it will say that you're looking to get all 4 tires running true to each other or tracking together
@cheeseheadzaq
@cheeseheadzaq 3 жыл бұрын
Such quality. Looks like so much fun I'm gonna go do it to all my cars right now. Stay tuned for straight only driving
@mitchmyers9217
@mitchmyers9217 3 жыл бұрын
U up ijjjk
@Timetravel1111
@Timetravel1111 3 жыл бұрын
How did it gO?!! 📐📐
@elainerussell924
@elainerussell924 2 жыл бұрын
How did you make out on your bullshitting alignment
@ramongalavis3328
@ramongalavis3328 Жыл бұрын
This is the very best diy alignment car video . I've ever seen. Congrats and thanks for share so many tricks to do . Greetings from Venezuela. 😉
@redseantlworld
@redseantlworld 2 жыл бұрын
I found your video very helpful, thanks for sharing this with us all. With much love and respect from the UK
@clems6989
@clems6989 8 ай бұрын
Measure the wheel not the tire. Simple differences in tire pressure will change measurments..
@getsmarter5412
@getsmarter5412 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo! I tried the tape measure, but I didn't want to hassle my wife to come out and hold one end while I did math. So I used a long piece of trimmed 1/2" x 1" wood, with a screw through one end with just enough screw poking out of one end to hook into a tread. Using the 2nd inner treads, I was able to reach over and hook on to the other side easily, then mark the wood on the other corresponding tread. Went to the backside, did the same. Now you have two marks on the wood who's difference you can now easily measure. A lot easier than a floppy tape measure and having to read that tape measure down to a 32nd of an inch while under your car!
@johnjohnstephens6727
@johnjohnstephens6727 2 жыл бұрын
Man you could have just taped the tape measure to tire but a great idea I'll use it on something but I'm putting a frontend on for the first time now that I've watched these video I feel like a pro man I got right angle battery drill 20 volt and a electric impact wrench and I'm ready to replace that explorer whole front end
@DustanMoore
@DustanMoore 2 жыл бұрын
That's a really cool way of doing it especially if you have a few vehicles to do!
@jeremiahfoley6368
@jeremiahfoley6368 2 жыл бұрын
OP
@jeremiahfoley6368
@jeremiahfoley6368 2 жыл бұрын
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@TyzFix
@TyzFix 2 жыл бұрын
smart!
@marakeshg8112
@marakeshg8112 2 жыл бұрын
Most excellent tutorial. Very helpful. Thank you.
@ottopilot7205
@ottopilot7205 3 жыл бұрын
Easy to follow. Quick and to the point without any extra fluff. Thanks and great job.
@waynejones8877
@waynejones8877 3 жыл бұрын
Your delivery is perfect 👌.
@4406bbldb
@4406bbldb 3 жыл бұрын
This is great i had all the manual pre digital and computer added equipment at a garage right beside a high tech alignment and frame shop. They often brought me jobs on cars that drove bad for them after the computer alignments. I straighten the cars out just fine. I told one of the guys from there "just cause you have a computer doesn't mean you must stop thinking ". :-)
@david9783
@david9783 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I had my truck aligned on a computer alignment machine. They couldn't get it right after 2 tries, so I gave up. It rode worse after the "alignment" than before I took it to them. Now I'm trying it at home. Maybe I'll get it right. 'Cause they sure couldn't.
@MrCoolvibeztv8079
@MrCoolvibeztv8079 3 жыл бұрын
Cording it is a good option as well
@david9783
@david9783 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrCoolvibeztv8079 Hey Itan, by cording do you mean wrapping a line all the way around the car?
@MrCoolvibeztv8079
@MrCoolvibeztv8079 3 жыл бұрын
@@david9783 yes you can do that if you don't have someone to hold it from the back tyre to the front , then adjust it and make sure the front outer part of tyre is touching both sides cross the the tyres...always leave a little tiny space between the front edge of the wheel where the line comes in contact with the tyre..hope that helps
@MrCoolvibeztv8079
@MrCoolvibeztv8079 3 жыл бұрын
@@david9783 I was a alignment technician/ auto mechanic for 22 years I always use the cord after doing front ends and when it goes on the machine nothing else needed to be done..
@TwylasTreasures
@TwylasTreasures 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the easy to follow instructions!!!
@Noname-gu8qi
@Noname-gu8qi 3 жыл бұрын
Also what works really good it's a couple of commercial vinyl tiles used as turntables, With the polished sides facing each other under the tires, done it many times with good results.
@jscarter0110
@jscarter0110 2 жыл бұрын
I would imagine trash bags could work pretty good too
@k9er233
@k9er233 2 жыл бұрын
Add some grease between the plates for a smooth slick turn. A trick we used in high school auto shop on the old school manual alignment rack back in the Stone Age.
@xavier4357
@xavier4357 Жыл бұрын
Aluminum foil
@DL101ca
@DL101ca Жыл бұрын
Anal ease works as well...
@williamgardner2739
@williamgardner2739 Жыл бұрын
@@jscarter0110 I use Polythene shopping bags smeared with a little grease on the inside, doe`s the job and no mess.
@bradleywaller3310
@bradleywaller3310 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate I've been doing wheel alignments at home for years saves money using the same technique tape measure 👍
@lcpresnell6267
@lcpresnell6267 3 жыл бұрын
that what i doing now
@mda5003
@mda5003 3 жыл бұрын
That's the method I use. Hold the tape measure in the tread with some duct tape and take readings across the front and rear of the tyres - move the car forwards and re-check measurements. If the steering wheel is slightly off centre, count the threads on each tie rod and by adjusting just one side it is possible to correct the steering and achieve the desired toe - I prefer just a slight toe-in. After any adjustment move the vehicle and re-check the measurements. I've done this on my Passat, the steering wheel is now spot on and tyres which were previously wearing badly have been replaced and the new ones are now wearing evenly across the treads.
@nabilulde5961
@nabilulde5961 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video.thankyou for taking the time in doing this.
@liwicarfixingadventuresph-4389
@liwicarfixingadventuresph-4389 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! Amazing!
@brad9205
@brad9205 8 ай бұрын
Well, I noticed just looking at my car that I had an enormous amount of toe out, so set about fixing it using this method. I was confident that I had it right but on a long drive I felt it was pulling to the near side a bit too much. So I took it to a local garage for a test on their Hunter machine, telling them that I'd been having a go myself. They came back to me with a print out and said it was spot on and asked me how I'd done it.
@Randyplaysguitars
@Randyplaysguitars Ай бұрын
So what was causing the vehicle to pull if the alignment was good?
@brad9205
@brad9205 Ай бұрын
@@Randyplaysguitars Nothing but my OCD. It's fine.
@stevearmstrong4561
@stevearmstrong4561 3 жыл бұрын
I have been doing it this way for years. Great video.
@reallyjonez2610
@reallyjonez2610 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being concise!! Great video
@timrussell1559
@timrussell1559 3 жыл бұрын
That method works just fine for adjusting basic toe in settings. However, it will not center the steering wheel if it isn't already straight. Also, a person would want to make sure the bellows boots are back straight after turning the tie rods, i take the clamps loose first and shoot a little wd in there with the straw before turning them. Good vid!
@nigelmitchell351
@nigelmitchell351 3 жыл бұрын
If you took note of your steering wheel centre or off centre position you can determine which wheel to adjust. Doing this incrementally and checking the steering wheel as you go will sort it. Done this for years.
@gregorykusiak5424
@gregorykusiak5424 3 жыл бұрын
@@nigelmitchell351 so if you need to steer left to go straight, it’s the right side that’s pulling you that way, or do I have that backwards? What about the other adjustments?
@nigelmitchell351
@nigelmitchell351 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorykusiak5424 Hi Greg, if you're sure your car is not bent, the first thing I would look at is your tyre wear, outer edges of each front tyre should show approximately even wear. Then measure your toe in or out as described in this video.Then, from your analogy you should adjust in increments of no more than half a turn on the track adjusters to turn the car to the left. This should, on a totally flat surface, put your steering wheel straight when driving straight. ATB, Mitch.
@garygermain1446
@garygermain1446 2 жыл бұрын
Tim Russell you read my mind
@kelkilkat
@kelkilkat 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, it pays to read a few comments, great information to know, thanks
@alexdeocares779
@alexdeocares779 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching us this practical wheel alignment. Two thumbs up...
@ottohase4474
@ottohase4474 3 жыл бұрын
well done, excellent ! easy to follow
@auctionmusic
@auctionmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Used this method, drove car, then did a second time on one wheel only and now perfect. thank you much
@rezjawnwatson5211
@rezjawnwatson5211 3 жыл бұрын
This is the video I was looking for 👍🏽
@needmoreboost6369
@needmoreboost6369 Жыл бұрын
Bit of a tip you should jack the wheel off the ground to spin it and use chalk and scribe to mark a true center line, tread can be off centre or the wheel could have a slight amount of run out and a true centre will find any problems and give better results for little extra effort
@r779projects7
@r779projects7 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, you sound exactly like the guy that taught me how to rebuild my xj650 starter motor which, was also a great video
@HamilcarBarca-jm3ey
@HamilcarBarca-jm3ey 7 ай бұрын
Wow! Explained pretty well. Thanks!
@oakkblackbird
@oakkblackbird 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time from making this video. Brain food, courtesy of you. 👍 Subscribed!
@dougandersen645
@dougandersen645 2 жыл бұрын
I figured this out myself, decades ago. Had a Chister minivan. The back tires were cupped so bad it would howl on the highway. Did the wheel bearings first. Which was a waste. I found out the rear wheels were closer together than the front. The rears were toed in considerably. I made shims out of a tin can and corrected the toe in. Aligned the front using a similar technique as the video. Bought a cheap set of tires at a farm store for under $200. The fronts lasted 106k and the rears 143k. Gave me great confidence that I could do my own alignments.
@markruiz5688
@markruiz5688 3 жыл бұрын
A newB one here... looking forward to this..I Have a Ford F-150 xl triton 04.
@LetricShave
@LetricShave 3 жыл бұрын
As one viewer mentioned, loosen off the rubber boot clamps before you start spinning anything. This keeps the boot from getting twisted up as you turn the adjusting shaft. You could even use a silver Sharpie marker to put a reference mark where the original boot position was if you’re concerned about it sliding too far away from it’s original position on the shaft.
@alvinf1275
@alvinf1275 2 жыл бұрын
The boot clamps don't loosen, also he spun the boot with his hand. No need to remove the boot clamps and make things more complicated.
@LetricShave
@LetricShave 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Alvin, I have to disagree with you. If it’s a factory pinched clamp you would not be able to loosen it. Most vehicles have removable clamps, so what’s wrong with sliding the clamp off and keeping the rubber from twisting up? Is it the little bit of extra work that you are afraid of?
@alvinf1275
@alvinf1275 2 жыл бұрын
@@LetricShave Afraid of work, na, not me lol. But we will agree to disagree. We all have our own little ways but we're shooting for the same results. For me, if I can cut cost on a clamp that doesn't have to be removed and a boot that is in perfect condition, I won't remove it if it's not necessary and doesn't impede to results.
@lavenderseedandworms
@lavenderseedandworms 2 жыл бұрын
@@alvinf1275 What Larry is saying is to loosen the clamp so that the rubber boot doesn't spin when turning the tie rod. If the boot is old and dry, it could tear when the tie rod is spun.
@kitjasabsgabs1830
@kitjasabsgabs1830 Жыл бұрын
​@@lavenderseedandworms I'll save u all some time, argument and money, 2 times a year wipe those boots down with 303. Get u a dollar store pack of wet wipes, squeeze the water etc out, pour in a few table spoons of 303 in the pack or remove and put in a freezer bag. Wipe them down a time or 2 and they'll last forever. I try to tell customers this in shop. I've seen so many ppl spend alot of money on boots, air shocks, etc and just put them on. It takes less than 30 seconds to treat them so the rubber will last and be pliable and never dry out. I do this with all rubber, plastic etc. I do this to air springs on Kenworth, tires etc. If u can when new spray or wipe inside and out with a dose of 303. I've had same air bags, tires, wipers, parts on semi and autos for years and decades. Things like PS lines, brake lines, fuel lines are all as cheaply made as possible. A lil bit if care makes the difference between them rusting in a few months to lasting years. I live in a Salt locale so it's necessary. Even if u live in FL, if next to ocean, it'll rust. If u use wipes the 303 will last alot longer.
@alvinb1959
@alvinb1959 3 жыл бұрын
Good Info, Thanks. Even though the audio was really low, after I plugged in and turned on my amplifier, I could then hear what was being said.
@chrisyates8115
@chrisyates8115 2 жыл бұрын
Deaf??
@ScreenPrintR
@ScreenPrintR Жыл бұрын
Went to the website listed on your alignment chart. They currently charge, $209.00 for a two panel alignment tool. Each alignment for my vehicles cost $121 to $151. That’s today. So two alignments at the lowest cost more than pays for it. That’s a no brainer. Great video, Thank you.
@hugoboss9387
@hugoboss9387 11 ай бұрын
This is great ❤my unc taught me this but I have forgotten it during the years of not having to deal with suspension misalignment issuea😊
@pnwRC.
@pnwRC. 3 жыл бұрын
Great video of a skill that's all but forgotten by today's society
@kdsboosted4954
@kdsboosted4954 3 жыл бұрын
Tape measure? Wait what? Lol
@MrCoolvibeztv8079
@MrCoolvibeztv8079 3 жыл бұрын
You can just use a cord too easy
@LogansRun69
@LogansRun69 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, no. Not at all.
@V-CRam7404
@V-CRam7404 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Additionally, when alignment is completed, slacken the steering boots clips and fix boots. Then retighten clips.
@JoseHernandez-qx5hy
@JoseHernandez-qx5hy 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the boots
@OldSchoolNoe
@OldSchoolNoe Жыл бұрын
@@JoseHernandez-qx5hy The boots!
@JanKowalski-ec2rj
@JanKowalski-ec2rj 2 жыл бұрын
Clear and simple thanks!
@josephnorcalusa1710
@josephnorcalusa1710 2 жыл бұрын
Helpful information, thank you for sharing bro !
@scamp2606
@scamp2606 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos. Well made, easy to follow and understand and useful practical info. !! Your website is great too! Service at our homes is convenient!
@daringmotors
@daringmotors 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@mgabrielle2343
@mgabrielle2343 2 жыл бұрын
You could improve accuracy of measurement more of you mark the two points with some paint, or tippex, and then push your car in forward or backward direction until those two marks appear at the rear, so you can now measure more accurate as this would take away any element of any wheel being slightly warped, or some other difference in tyre pattern . Overall its a good basic way to align. You also need around 1 degree toe in
@danielplumley2649
@danielplumley2649 2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain further? Not quite understanding what you mean
@pjay3028
@pjay3028 2 жыл бұрын
1 degree of toe in?!
@VibinCam
@VibinCam Жыл бұрын
@@danielplumley2649 Instead of comparing front tires to back tires, which can lead to some inaccurate measurements due to tire warping, and other things, you want to compare the front tires to the front tires. So in other words, when measuring between the points, mark where the tape measure starts and ends on the tires. Then put your car in drive or reverse (or neutral and push it) until those 2 points are facing the back of the car. So turn the tires until they have spun 180°. Then measure between the points again.
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 Жыл бұрын
@@VibinCam thats Great idea brother.. i do tape alignments all the time and agree completely with that logic..makes sense
@kevinkraftable
@kevinkraftable 11 ай бұрын
How do you know which side to make the adjustment though? Or do you do a little to each tire to make it even on both sides
@egbunaifeanacho7510
@egbunaifeanacho7510 10 ай бұрын
A beautiful DIY on tire alignment fixing. That was good.
@georgeharr8976
@georgeharr8976 3 жыл бұрын
That method works great for me i measure same way first i measure rear wheel treat then do front ive always been dead on
@azataliking8302
@azataliking8302 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great Video am getting ready to save $90 on front alignment.
@scotts1862
@scotts1862 3 жыл бұрын
You may save $90 now but it will cost you hundreds later when your tires wear out prematurely. You can’t get the precision you need with a tape measure. If you have lane departure or electric power steering you will also need to reset the steering angle sensor or you’ll cause problems that will cost you hundreds more on top of the premature tire wear. Somethings are best left to the professionals with proper equipment. If a tape measure did the job why are shops spending $60,000 to $70,000 on alignment equipment.
@treonwestmoland7239
@treonwestmoland7239 3 жыл бұрын
@@scotts1862 pop ouy66
@justiceforall8982
@justiceforall8982 3 жыл бұрын
@@scotts1862 for the write off of course 🤪
@RIitalian78
@RIitalian78 3 жыл бұрын
@@scotts1862 to bone people on $hundreds of dollars every day...
@dumbeezy5480
@dumbeezy5480 2 жыл бұрын
@@RIitalian78 lol…stop being a cheapass
@B44SB66
@B44SB66 2 жыл бұрын
After you set the Towing correctly with a tape measure you then I have to fine-tune the steering wheel because it is hardly ever straight it may be slightly off you drive it and determine which way to turn the tire rods on each side . If your steering wheel is at 1 o’clock after the Towing is set correctly you then will have to adjust the right tire rod in a quarter of a turn and the left one out a quarter of a turn and then recheck the steering wheel and repeat this procedure until it’s straight
@barrychristianson1
@barrychristianson1 3 жыл бұрын
Works great....I use a measuring stick that is one pipe inside another with a screw each end to catch the tread .....havent got the tape to flop around .
@spark.flisterkazuremis9171
@spark.flisterkazuremis9171 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much man, in my country I use diy method I'm telling you man this because my job at the garage .
@BIack-Moon
@BIack-Moon Жыл бұрын
Great video! Very explanatory. I still say take it to the shop but from my experience here is something you can do if it is way off and not able to drive if you have just changed the tie rod end... I found that counting the turns is a hit or miss because the new tie rod end part might be off by a few millimeter. 1. Jack up front of vehicle (safely).2. straighten steering wheel. 3.take off tires and release locking nut on tie rod end...4. remove tie rod end from steering knuckle (do not unscrew from inner tie rod. 5. go back in vehicle confirm steering is still straight adjust if necessary. 6. you have full control to straighten the steering wheel with your eyes by looking at it with the front of the vehicle, straighten them 7. Get under car and you will find that the tie rod end is not lined up with the hole in the steering knuckle make sure the tie rod end is at a perfect 90° angle. adjust to make it pop right in to the steering knuckle without moving that tire then tighten the locking nut , you will only be off by a small amount of degrees but able to drive to the shop without tires screeching or crab walking lol. do this to the to the other side.. from a point of view just looking at the car you should have a steering wheel that is straight with tires that are straight.
@snottynoze
@snottynoze 3 жыл бұрын
run a string line all the way around the center of tires you can easily see which wheel is out start with drivers side then passenger to adjust
@davido1588
@davido1588 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@monktontrimble763
@monktontrimble763 Жыл бұрын
Thats what id do or a long straight edge from back to front 😊.piece of piss
@henrrisiavichay4572
@henrrisiavichay4572 3 жыл бұрын
Good job!!!
@deosdetejesus5898
@deosdetejesus5898 Жыл бұрын
Excelente trabalho muito bom não e tão fácil assim 🎸🎸🎸🎸 Brasil BR
@Ulbre
@Ulbre Ай бұрын
Take it to a shop and more often than you will be hit up with you will need to replace this or that.....and that may be the case.....but then again it may just be this simple adjustment......thx for sharing bro, most of us are just struggling to get from dawn to dusk and this really helps :)
@mackmckinnon4407
@mackmckinnon4407 3 жыл бұрын
cool video but did I miss something what if the driverside is out more than the passage side or vice versa. I saw you secured the steering wheel. but don't you need a center reference point to measure out from to see which is out or in more. either way, I will use this but I will find the center somehow thank you
@goodcitizen3780
@goodcitizen3780 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's good to measure to a center point.
@Nyjawonder
@Nyjawonder 2 жыл бұрын
Another trick is to count the number of available treads on each tie rod before you adjust anything. Ideally the number of threads should be almost the same either side
@warrior4777
@warrior4777 3 жыл бұрын
I think when you tightened it back up, you changed the adjustment by turning the adjustment bar in a little bit, which would Toe the wheel in more. I think you need to hold the Adjusting bar with pliers on those lines and then tighten the nut. The tie rod end will only turn so far and it will stop. Not sure if it turned enough to matter though. Curious if your wheel is straight while driving. I think you would have to keep adjusting them on both sides to the left or right until you got the wheel straight while driving because I don't think their is anyway to set the wheel straight with this method. You could have the steering wheel Locked down when you do this but, the correct percentage between the front and back of the wheels could be set correctly, but in multiple different directions I think which would change the setting on your steering wheel.
@redcougarjgw
@redcougarjgw 3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct. You will need to make several adjustments and that is why you must take the weight off the tires or you will surely strip the threads. The basic idea is right though conventional steering is much easier than rack and pinion steering.
@waynesmith1704
@waynesmith1704 Жыл бұрын
I've used that method and one that requires two jack stands and fishing line... Both are easy, work great.
@fatherguidosarduchi5204
@fatherguidosarduchi5204 2 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation and know how. Thank you very much 👍
@learnandteach.108
@learnandteach.108 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explained 👍
@ronmitchell8929
@ronmitchell8929 2 жыл бұрын
I use to do that until I discovered a string alignment. I'm sure there are videos on it. A string goes the whole way around the car across the middle of the tire. It's easier to visualize and also get your steering wheel straight. No need holding a tape. With all front end work I do a string alignment then send them off to get it done with a machine. Any control arm work the castor and camber needs adjusted. With just tierods and/or pitman arm you can get away with just toe-in. Another thing is you need good tires. If you have poor tires you will get poor results. Do your work, put good tires on, adjust it close enough then go get a professional alignment. It's worth the $75.
@Mr-Clark
@Mr-Clark 2 жыл бұрын
@Anthony M I'm guessing it's a temporary remedy after fixing the car. Really bad alignment can make the vehicle harder to control and unsafe.
@waynesmith1704
@waynesmith1704 Жыл бұрын
I've used both the tape measure and the string ( fishing line with two jack stands) the string method is my go to.
@newfie-dean5803
@newfie-dean5803 Ай бұрын
@@waynesmith1704but wouldn’t you need the same tire width on the front and back for the string method to work? If you have 255 tires on the front and 275 tires on the rear wouldn’t that throw the string method off?
@Bob-nu3xe
@Bob-nu3xe 3 жыл бұрын
yep spot on, car was pulling left wear on inside right tyre, checked using your method 3/8" TOE OUT RESET 1/16" TOE IN car drives as straight as an arrow total time 20 minutes cost nothing! many thanks
@daringmotors
@daringmotors 3 жыл бұрын
Glad that it fixed your problem!
@Bob-nu3xe
@Bob-nu3xe 3 жыл бұрын
@@daringmotors believe it not this is AFTER I had it checked TWICE with a garage so they are history!! top man! once again many thanks!
@hussainmakki615
@hussainmakki615 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent your job, I find Zain was with you the mechanic Hussein from Bahrain is a fan of the dog
@davidtaylor630
@davidtaylor630 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps measure against a centre point in case one wheel is more off than the other?
@tinkerer570
@tinkerer570 3 жыл бұрын
If you're not sure that both wheels aren't with the same orientation, unbolt tie rod end completely and then screw in with same number of turns on both sides - and viola, you have a base line :-)
@camberlubos3995
@camberlubos3995 2 жыл бұрын
@René Vondrášek Chcelo by sa Ti mi poradiť v tomto prosím Ťa? Moc by si mi pomohol.
@johnkatkus9063
@johnkatkus9063 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information. I will try this on my 2004 Honda Civic. Where did you get the specs for the toe-in number please?
@daringmotors
@daringmotors 3 жыл бұрын
If you search on google with your cars information you will be able to find it that is how I find mine
@Operator-om8ih
@Operator-om8ih 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Private! No lollygagin or jerkin around. Carry on!
@RedrooAU
@RedrooAU 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you mate...now I know how to do mine...save me some $$$... Sydney Australia... Great job 10 out of 10
@williamgrissom9022
@williamgrissom9022 3 жыл бұрын
I do this on my cars. It is very sensitive, as shown here where 1/2 turn each side changes toe-in by ~1/8". I doubt a laser alignment could beat that, plus some who worked alignment said techs often kick the mirrors to get an acceptable printout without even touching the car's adjusters. It changes over time after several years anyway as parts wear and ride height sags. Easiest if your front tires have straight channels. Hardest for me is recruiting a family member to hold the tape measure. I've tried taping it to the tire, but falls off or shifts (stickier tape!). Go up as high as you can on the aft side without hitting an obstruction, then the same height across the fwd track. If new, tight parts, I set 1/16" toe-in for RWD (or toe-out for FWD). As shown, you don't need to turn the adjusters much to get a big effect. Usually need to drive and repeat to get the steering wheel perfectly centered. A sanity check is to hold a straight-edge along the front and sight at the rears. Should hit ~1" inward on the rear tire if FWD (slight toe-out), if your front and rear tracks are the same width (most sedans). Repeat on other side. That method is also amazingly sensitive and might even replace the tape-measure method. I check camber by holding a carpenter's level vertical against the tire. I set slight negative camber (tire leaning in at top). Caster can't be adjusted on many cars. On my 1960's Mopars, one sets the most caster you can, while still holding camber, even using offset upper control arm bushings. The factory design was for bias-ply tires which deflect aft more than radials. You want the projected line thru the ball joints to hit the asphalt in front of the tire contact patch while driving for a "shopping cart wheel" effect (so front wheels want to follow the body direction), but not too much or turning will be harder. On older cars with turnbuckle adjusters, be sure to center the ball-joints on the inner and outer tie-rods so they can't bind in operation. No worries with newer cars with rack & pinion like shown in video since the inner ball-joint which screws into the rack (behind rubber boot) can spin 360 deg axially.
@lawrencedavidson6195
@lawrencedavidson6195 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a bungee cord around the circumference of the tire would hold tape measure in place without falling off or shifting.
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 Жыл бұрын
@@lawrencedavidson6195 I do the tape measure alignments All the time and its Easy to keep it in the groove..I use clear 2 or 3 inch wide packing tape...tear off a 10 inch strip, place the tape measure end in the center of that strip, get a shop cloth and 1st wipe the dirt off the area on the tire, put the measure clip in the groove and press the tape onto the tire.. hold fine while i go to the other side for measurements..I even reuse the same taPE on the back side measurements..
@lawrencedavidson6195
@lawrencedavidson6195 Жыл бұрын
@@skip741x3 Great idea!
@jamesgriffin7351
@jamesgriffin7351 4 ай бұрын
I've always enjoyed adjusting the suspension alignment on old Mopars. It's easy to adjust. It's also why they are good to take to the track cars and drive it back home. I would adjust the front alignment on my 71 Charger right at the drag strip. Then set it back to drive home. Heck, I would change the axle ratio as well. Pull the 3.28 ratio (8 3/4 axles are like Ford 9-inch axles. The gears come out in one unit) and change it to 4.10 gears. Then change it back to the 3.28's. Old Mopars were definitely built to race!
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 3 жыл бұрын
A front wheel drive vehicle will need a very slight amount of outward tow to compensate for the pulling forces, this is opposite of rear wheel drive..
@bellavlogzzz1662
@bellavlogzzz1662 2 ай бұрын
How much outward toe should it have?
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 2 ай бұрын
@@bellavlogzzz1662 Very close to zero, maybe 1/16 inch towed out but certainly not towed in.
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 5 күн бұрын
Great video, i recently picked up a laser tape from Bosch that makes this type of alignment super easy.
@petruadrianpatrascu6239
@petruadrianpatrascu6239 2 жыл бұрын
Superb my man, I will do the same thing on my Skoda with the next opportunity. I have the same problem with my steering wheel.
@charliedee9276
@charliedee9276 3 жыл бұрын
I bungee a plastic 4' level on each wheel as high as I can to allow a tape to stretch across, makes holding the end on much easier and gives a more accurate measurement.
@charliedee9276
@charliedee9276 3 жыл бұрын
@Hank Bridges The 2 measurements are the reference. When both front of tire and rear of tire measurements are the same the tires are parallel to each other and if your frame isn't bent or your rear axle isn't skewed it also puts them parallel with the rear tires. Works perfect and I don't have to buy anything from EBAY. You can also check with an 8' fluorescent bulb if the rear axle is in line with the front by touching off the 2 sidewalls of the rear tire and extending the bulb to the front tire. When the bulb is touching both tires on both sidewalls you know the front and rear tire are parallel, this method also works perfect on motorcycles. It's all about geometry.
@gilbertdianon6565
@gilbertdianon6565 3 жыл бұрын
Using millimeter is an accurate one
@swankster1966
@swankster1966 3 жыл бұрын
You should measure off the wheels instead of the tires.
@PawanYadav-mq9st
@PawanYadav-mq9st 2 жыл бұрын
@@charliedee9276 bh
@sharpgirlsSerious
@sharpgirlsSerious 3 жыл бұрын
Very Informative somethings I'll let people make money off of, as long as I find them to be honest mechanics
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 Жыл бұрын
Bro ,ive been doing tape measure alignments for ages..its so simple and Everyone has the means to do it...I always use a marker though to 1st mark the default original setting position on the tieros and the baljoint its threaded to to if u goof up, u can go back and try again.. it also gives u a reference for whether u have turned a quarter/half or full turn..
@taylorshiver3284
@taylorshiver3284 9 ай бұрын
Where exactly are you marking the tires? Chalk or a sharpie?
@steffenwolffe507
@steffenwolffe507 2 жыл бұрын
For best grip on bolts, use old-school pipe wrenches. Also works for stripped heads. YW.
@e2smoov
@e2smoov 3 жыл бұрын
Idk how I ended up on this video but I liked it 👍🏽
@frankaum
@frankaum 3 жыл бұрын
Bhahahahha same here bro lol
@roadrunner8428
@roadrunner8428 3 жыл бұрын
I also used to do this way back with a measuring tape, you need to use a reference point usually found under the front cross member ( usually a hole ) to adjust your toe DIY style. Make sure your tires are properly inflated before you start adjustments. Measure that right tire tread location to the center of that reference point and do the same with the left tire, then make your adjustments. Don't forget to tighten that jam nut when done. I now prefer to take my vehicles to a wheel alignment shop for $69.99. I know it's dead on.
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, this method is not good. He is not using any reference point. That reference point are the rear tires that most use to measure from.
@LJC5865
@LJC5865 2 жыл бұрын
I've diy a couple times with great results. Last month decided to spend and have it done..waited 3 weeks and spent$150 at best shop in town and the steering wheel is still a little pointed to left. So you know..DIY or DIE. Not taking it back..drive there..wait.. maybe it's right but..
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
@@LJC5865 if i can do it myself and get it done right the 1st time, I DO IT.
@prickajeck
@prickajeck 2 жыл бұрын
The key to presenting a mesuring tape alignment is to simplfy the process. Your coments are too detailed and defy the action of self alignment.
@SterlingStudios
@SterlingStudios 2 жыл бұрын
They want $125 here now for just a toe . No caster or camber
@gk4501
@gk4501 8 ай бұрын
You earned a like and a comment very well detailed video and really clear thank you so much keep helping us please
@daringmotors
@daringmotors 8 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@tonys78rpmrecords
@tonys78rpmrecords 3 жыл бұрын
Doing the same thing here also. Good video.
@gholamrezaboroon3095
@gholamrezaboroon3095 3 жыл бұрын
Front wheels, should not be parallel in all cars, you should refers to car's spec. by the way, generally in front wheel cars, due to pulling force of front wheels, front tires tends to becomes toe in. so to compensate this phenomenon, they must have a little toe out angle in not driving condition.
@boobizzy4173
@boobizzy4173 3 жыл бұрын
thank you brother
@benventura5170
@benventura5170 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing great video !!
@vrijmens
@vrijmens Жыл бұрын
thank you for showing this. i will try it today on my car.
@sean52mcardle
@sean52mcardle 3 жыл бұрын
grate video buddy sound quality very low but that could be on my side
@Timetravel1111
@Timetravel1111 3 жыл бұрын
On iPhone 8 it is a little bit quiet to hear him speaking
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 Жыл бұрын
You'd have more precise measurements by measuring off the rotors with the wheels off and off the ground. I've done this method, but off the rotors with the wheels off and jacked up. What I did was take the wheels off, took two carpenter squares held on against the rotors by two lugs flat position parallel to the ground. This left the squares sticking out from front to back to measure off of. Being off the ground won't effect toe, makes it real easy to adjust the tie rods, quicker to measure and more precise. Most carpenter squares are plenty flat enough to use, they generally have close enough tolerances within a couple 1000's of an inch in most cases... they're good enough for toe anyways.
@elcomandante9299
@elcomandante9299 6 ай бұрын
Two carpenter squares are pipe fitters best friend.
@eduardoverdasco3376
@eduardoverdasco3376 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing I learned something new👍
@curtistucker8059
@curtistucker8059 2 жыл бұрын
I've always had good luck setting the tow 1/8 of an inch narrower on the front measurement compared to the back measurement. How much do you put in it also depends on how worn out your front end components are.
@fvgc454ss
@fvgc454ss 2 жыл бұрын
1/8" drags the tire 40-50 ft per mile...
@williamgrissom9022
@williamgrissom9022 Жыл бұрын
True. My 1985 M-B shop manual is a bit fussy. They show a shop tool, rod which pushes the fwd side of the front tires apart to take up play before adjusting toe-in. I recall then you set 1/16" toe-in, like for a car with all new suspension parts. If worn tie-rod ends and ball-joints, better to set 1/8" toe-in if no such loading rod. That is for RWD cars. If FWD, you set slight toe-out since the front tires pull and thus rotate towards toe-in while driving. Ideally, the fronts will be exactly parallel when driving.
@dn7783
@dn7783 Жыл бұрын
​@William Grissom and what about 4WD drive Or AWD
@DL101ca
@DL101ca 4 ай бұрын
​@@fvgc454ss only done for front, the rear you keep parallel. 4x4 or AWD take into consideration if full time or part time. Full time, set up as FWD vehicle with toe out. Part time set up as RWD, with toe in.
@fender.munoz7
@fender.munoz7 Жыл бұрын
ill just pay 40.00 have my friend do it at his tire shop 😂
@Justin-fq7vj
@Justin-fq7vj Жыл бұрын
Good video for a person to do the work themselves and keep the tires from wearing out.
@Timetravel1111
@Timetravel1111 3 жыл бұрын
3:33 great camera 📸 work while holding the tape measure! 📐
@rogerjoseph2532
@rogerjoseph2532 3 жыл бұрын
thanks bud. I got to do this to my Chevy truck now.
@tomsmulders5693
@tomsmulders5693 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed at 10:04 when you were tightening the locking nut you actually turned the drive to a shorter position, making the alignment off.
@Stealthcookie
@Stealthcookie 2 жыл бұрын
Probably actually put it in spec, @ 8:43 he calls 3/32 3/16. so it likely took that 1/32 toe in to 1/16 or better
@TheFadil75
@TheFadil75 Жыл бұрын
There is a better way to get an accurate and accurate alignment of the tires of the car, which is to use a string and connect it from the rear tire to the front tire, so that it touches the outer edge of each tire, and then decide if you need to move the tire inward or outward
@NathanClevenger1337
@NathanClevenger1337 11 ай бұрын
This can fuck you up if you have a vehicle that has tie rods on all 4. Because if you're off in the rear too, it will throw off the front. Also, if your wheelbase is not the same in the front/rear that will also not work because it will not be square.
@southernflatland
@southernflatland 11 ай бұрын
Nope nope nope! Back when I'd do my own front end alignment on my old Corsica, I found the front tires were over an inch further apart than the rear tires. NEVER assume your vehicle's geometry is symmetrical from the front to the back.
@TheFadil75
@TheFadil75 11 ай бұрын
You should know that if the four points of the front and rear tires do not touch the taut thread, then there will be no exact alignment of the wheels. If the direction of the rear tires is different from the front, no matter how hard you try, there will be no exact alignment, so this process is the best, through which you can direct even the tire back through
@lynskeyti9940
@lynskeyti9940 10 ай бұрын
What if the vehicle is dog tracking
@NathanClevenger1337
@NathanClevenger1337 10 ай бұрын
@@lynskeyti9940 Then you give it a treat and tell it to go lay down. lolol.... It means your rear toe either has a positive or negative thrust angle. Meaning you need to have the toe aligned.
@JohnDoe-gz8dw
@JohnDoe-gz8dw 3 жыл бұрын
That was pretty awesome, ty
@1dd434
@1dd434 3 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks
@michellecarew7778
@michellecarew7778 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea but how do u know which wheel needs the adjustment your assuming both wheels are equally out to begin with ??? Or am i missing something?
@oguzoguz4686
@oguzoguz4686 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
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