How to Dominate Darktide Like a COMMISSAR - Bolt Pistol and Chainsword Commissar Build

[@Rottooth]

"Loyalist adjacent" got me good.

[@sandpirate1662]

Same lol

[@papazoulou9326]

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[@thomasxreaper639]

Just saw that video on the official Dark Tide channel. Congrats!!!

[@milkandcookiesTW]

thanks mate

[@draketurtle4169]

“If you can breathe, you can kill!” Gives similar vibes to “if it bleeds…” but like the reverse

[@Exania88]

I talked with my friends yesterday that I wanned to make a Commissar build and not even 24h later u bring this out, hell yeah :D

[@actinium2754]

It's not a good build. Trust me, this can be optimized WAY better.

[@Exania88]

@@actinium2754 it is a fun build and that is the point.. it is fun to play! I dont need the best of the best, I already got that :)

[@BigBoneBusiness]

Any Veteran that isn't allergic to melee gets a stamp of approval. The amount of people I see pretending the game is all shooting even in Damnation is staggering. It's the biggest reason I main shieldgryn and take all the taunts. The bolt pistol has been a ton of fun on all the human classes, I'm glad it doesn't take a year to pull out like the boltgun but also doesn't completely outclass it. If and when we finally get a plasma pistol, I hope it's just as schnasty.

[@vineveer4358]

As a fan of the stub pistol at the game's launch, I'm very excited to hear about bolt pistol being in the game now. Will definitely have to try it out.

[@andrewgallagher7690]

I would honestly forget about the rending weapons talent and just go for the 20% increase to Ogryn and monstrosity damage just to the right of it. You deal similar damage to crushers, perform a lot better against bulwarks and reapers, and have more to offer against bosses, especially since you picked up grenade tinkerer, Just in general, 10% rending doesn’t help you very much, and the Onslaught talent (stacking 2.5% brittleness per hit) has far better performance, especially on full auto weapons.

[@alexandreparent5754]

Indeed or those 2 points could be put into +33% weakspot damage and +25% imo. But 2 points for 10% rending is horrible choice since it brings so few to the table. That Invigorated perk (under weapons specialist) isn't really good. I hear people coming with +20% stamina is for deadshot but duck and dive would provide more stamina overall AFAIK. Also the stamina triggers when you swtich to melee instead of ranged with makes you switch a ton for only +20% stamina, its just not worth it. Also the build lacks explanations on curios and what should be brought. Its an average build that could be better without removing of that comissar fantasy.

[@infrared6973]

@@alexandreparent5754 rending strikes is genuinely a horrible node and idk why so many people play with it. 10% extra damage is beyond negligible and its right next to 20% damage to ogryns which is really why people take rending strikes in the first place. Field improv or reciprocity or even competitive urge would yield way better results.

[@BigBoneBusiness]

Do people take it to go with the bleed talent/bleed blessings on knives or something? I main Ogryn, where rending does some bonkers stuff to bleed damage on armored targets.

[@infrared6973]

@@BigBoneBusiness 10% extra damage is insignificant and onslaught is just better. People swear by rending strikes but its really not doing much for people.

[@alexsitaras6508]

I found the bolt pistol on gun psyker to be a lot of fun and very potent. It's now the most fun gun in the game imo.

[@Tyrgalon]

A lot of guns are good with gun psyker, thing is you are now consuming ammo and thus potentially causing ammo issues for the other classes who dont have the option of none ammo consuming ranged weapons like psyker does. One of the defining strengths of psyker is that you have ranged options that never run out of ammo.

[@alexsitaras6508]

@@Tyrgalon Maybe, but that's where assail comes to prevent wasting ammo on trash. And I've also rarely come into issues with whole teams of good players running out of ammo on auric malestroms.

[@JGOOLDD]

The Dawn of War BGM was a nice touch I freaking love its music

[@thethanor]

LOL that intro was golden. well done!

[@greggod3646]

Love the Build. I can't believe they buffed the Bolt Pistol. It was already pretty awesome.

[@snickeringcat]

I rarely find myself using Deadshot. I would rather just forgo Lonshot and Volley Adept for Always Prepared and On Your Toes for Weapons Specialist. My gun's out of ammo? Melee kill a few things, press Q, melee kill some more things, press Q. Voila, you're fully loaded again and are spitting out toughness like no tomorrow. It also helps that the Bolt Pistol is only an 8 round weapon. Krak grenades are a fine choice, but I'd figure the Bolt Pistol would be good enough to deal with armored mobs, plus the Shredder grenade and Survivalist (the other 2 auras are still underwhelming so until Fatshark buffs them, Survivalist or die baby) are just so helpful in staying full on ammo and making everything stagger and bleed to death. I'd also go Born Leader, since you're just pissing out toughness left and right, anybody near you will be borderline unkillable as well. Overall, I've found Weapons Specialist to be the absolute best keystone for Veteran and it's not even close. Focus Fire is only useful if you can actually mark things fast enough before your team annihilates them, and Marksman's Focus is extremely skill oriented, but suffers with the desync in Darktide from the sheer amount of enemies you deal with all at once. Not only that, but the talent path to Weapons Specialist is good no matter what you pick really.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

thanks for the well thought out comment! I also very much like Always Prepared, but I had a double barrel shotgun gameplay 2 Darktide videos ago utilizing it as the main part of the strat a few months ago, and have a bunch more double barrel gameplay recorded on this new patch doing the same thing. So was looking for some ways to change it up a bit on Veteran. Weapons Specialist is for sure bananas, so many good nodes on that side of the tree

[@warstorm7005]

The carpel tunnel / finger fatigue is so real even with auto clicker macros for things like spamming light attack/laspistol shots. You usually need to time your melee combos manually. It's lots of fun but really can't play it multiple days in a roll.

[@Pyraus]

teamwork makes the dream work

[@ShahbazBokhari]

Wait holy fuck Darktide is fun now.

[@0bzen22]

Always been. * click *

[@aethewulf4787]

Carsakin build from new Tithes episode plasma pistol and power sword would be wholsome!

[@TalonSlav]

I don't understand the point of taking Volley Adept, but not Always Prepared. There's always something you can melee to death in any Auric mission. You can quickswap in-between each melee kill to refill 1 bolt on each melee kill, but you don't even need to be that efficient. Just about any group of poxwalkers, groaners, or anything at all you find in melee range becomes a free ammo refill with no reload.

[@TalonSlav]

Not to mention that trash you can melee to death is far, far more common than elites. How often do you find yourself fighting elites without them being surrounded by trash?

[@prez-e]

Oh yeah this game exists. I played so much SM2 I legit forgot.

[@Hawkens4k]

me personally, i think las-pistol is for basic commissars, and a bolt pistol is for commissar+

[@RebelHound]

on the tabletop, commissars only come with either a bolt pistol or plasma pistol.

[@Christian1999DK]

i got a sort of crowd control build for my Comissar build. more or less the same, i just use a power sword. that and in general i tend to use my bolt pistol for crowd control with all the ranged supression i got and the Aoe. so it often makes a horde of infested start to cower or just general cultists and traitor guardsmen to cower i fear. It is also mainly due to not having a good chainsword at the moment as i do like it, i just haven't gotten any good ones yet

[@Raulikien]

While the gear update was amazing, you still gotta wait for the silly shop rotation to grab the premium cosmetics, including the commissar ones. If only they had made a game with a better premium currency system HMMM

[@SteveAkaDarktimes]

Autoattack mod is mandatory for finger and wrist health.

[@andrewgallagher7690]

I would honestly forget about the rending weapons talent and just go for the 20% increase to Ogryn and monstrosity damage just to the right of it. You deal similar damage to crushers, perform a lot better against bulwarks and reapers, and have more to offer against bosses. Since you picked up grenade tinkerer, your kraks now do 70% more damage against bosses. Just in general, 10% rending doesn’t help you very much, and the Onslaught talent (stacking 2.5% brittleness per hit) has far better performance, especially on full auto weapons. The weapons that don’t shoot fast enough to benefit from onslaught typically don’t need much rending.

[@Izigurand]

You’re right that 10% rending is pretty bad. Bring it Down is alright, but Competitive urge is definitely the best of the three. 2.5% chance for 8 seconds is really high uptime in Auric.

[@Izigurand]

Reciprocity is definitely better than brittleness. Having (usually 25%) better Riposte as a single node is simply way better than Uncanny Strike but somehow worse. Rending is low impact in general, so Rending Strikes is consequently pretty bad. The krak grenades in the build will work fine against crushers. Onslaught with full-auto is pretty much the only time to use it. I would personally switch out Grenade Tinkerer for Covering Fire. Going for Covering Fire also makes Born Leader a great pickup, and even with just Confirmed Kill Vet makes insane toughness so it’s just a great node in general for quickplay.

[@Hanzyl]

I want a Jurgen greatcoat outfit and a Melta.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

you and me both brotha

[@TV-wb2cn]

We should do auric melee sometime man 😅. It's the only we we can bring clay back

[@slyllamademon2652]

I would go for power sword personally.

[@0bzen22]

Will the real Shouty please stand up.

[@respiii]

I did not know the rarity of the weapons does not impact their contribution for a mastery. As a casual player who spend his money / Ressourcen before the update the have hafe two "nice" weapons I feel somewhat burned. I like the premise of the update, I have to grind a lot to get the weapon masteriers, and similar customizing options I already had before :/

[@bier5178]

Fatshark took our previous grind into account when i logged back in i had enough weapon level exp that i just had to click all the blessings lol

[@andrewgallagher7690]

Just as a tip. I’ve got so much money that I always buy blue and green weapons from the armory to sacrifice. I’ve gotten lots of levels for basically free.

[@respiii]

@@bier5178 maybe I did not play enough only have like 40hours. After I logged back in all my masteries where at the base level, even with the weapons classes I mainly played.

[@Isabingus]

Ive been saying i for over a year and Ill say it again. Its very bizzare that the best melee character is veteran, as it makes zelot feel meh when you play it and kill less in the range its supposed to excel at... Saying that veteran is my favortire class fantasy in Dtide and I love melee in games so Im not gonna complain to much. Also interestingly this build has been my go too since they released that stadium map, although I ran power sword and what ever ranged weapon I felt like using as the build can work with any weapon combo Imo.

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

Ciaphas Caine, always depicted with a bolt pistol, never uses one. 😆

[@inductr]

So ADS is for minimal bullet spread?

[@cirolle1883]

While its a good build, I dont feel like its a commissar build really. Not enough buffs/leader talents for my taste. But looks like a fun build

[@adriankoch964]

NGL, after finishing Space Marine 2, this new video about Darktide made me wonder if it was finally worth to pick up, but upon hearing that there are like 8+ different currencies to juggle and the whole mass clicking, I think I'll pass this up.

[@actinium2754]

It's only 5 currencies, 2 of which aren't even important. One currency is from weeklies (not important as it's just for equipment that is pre-maxed out and not even that good now since you can generally craft better), one is for the premium cosmetics shop (not important at all and is acquired via creditcard) and the other 3 are all acquired at the same time while playing a mission (1 for completing the mission, other 2 from finding them around the mission level). It's not complicated.

[@gingermadman]

Darktides about 10x the game sm2 is and I've never used any currencies lol

[@EssaBee]

How does he have 400k plasteel.... jeebus.

[@wesleyeberly228]

Sponsored video suggests he’s using a dev account like the others were

[@agh.abolfazl204]

bro wasnt lucky in chainsword department either, its too short

[@lechking941]

this makes me pissed i could not get yarrics evil eyed cap when it was avakliable. FUCK YOU PAY TO WIN COSMETICS I WANT SOME OF THAT SHIT!

[@TannuWannu]

wasting an entire grenade on every single bulwark. unreal.

[@joshizfly]

But i ogryn

[@NorthInium]

Sadly its a little to late for me for this game especially now as the servers for EU at least to have shit themselves ^^

[@GrayFolxy]

Why does my WH40K is a gacha game ?

[@GrayFolxy]

Darktide still has no content and most of it is a travesty , why cant we play a zealot as a crusader with a tempest shield & sword ? This gives another tank class So many ways to improve the game and yet the devs are knee deep down in shit and the "pariah" narrative , no real bosses that stand out than the 4 variants of Renegade Guard captains with the piss bubble around them cause "one shotting the boss is bad" Just tired of this mascarade of a game , Space marine 2 is a game made by people that even have the dedication to put 2 000 pts list like builds inside of it. Fatshark really disappoints and knowing that half the vermintide team left , man I m just asking for a good game where we dont play space marines and we could have it but they had to fuck it up somehow when all you have to do is open a codex or wh40k book about the guardsmen & civilians and just copy paste Fuck this really

[@varagianafro9755]

i almost forgot this game exists... laughs in ultramarine

[@Zoxomable]

Doesn't hit the right places with the combat in space marine.

[@alexandreparent5754]

Its okay, Space marine has depth for max 40 hours in PVE after that theres no curve no nothing. Bolters are nerf darts, melee puts you in a defensive (take more damage) and offensive disadvantage (deal less damage) than ranged. 600 enemies in 20+ minutes compared to darktide that does have around 5x more enemies is crazy to me. (Proved via scoreboard in both games after a match of similar playtime). Don't get me wrong, i wish the game was better, but it just aint Darktide. Darktide has this extremely high skill ceiling and more adrenaline pumped into the gameplay.

[@bammbalam]

Thats really cool an all, but have they fixed the game running at 28 fps yet? no? ah well no thanks, better luck next year

[@chilicookoff2017]

I bought a new 1200€ PC mainly for darktide, and its the only game i have stuttering problem with lol. More than a year later and it still hasnt been fixed for me, would really love to play the game but im unable to. Meanwhile newer demanding games like space marine 2 run smooth as butter

[@infrared6973]

They finally implemented a “fix” after 6 months and it didnt fix any of the problems. Audio is still shit and people still disconnect constantly. Half a year with miserable performance on console is honestly impressive.

[@rareraven]

Your PC needs an update. 😂

[@infrared6973]

@@rareraven it has nothing to do with someones pc needing an update. All amd users, which is everyone on console, and some pc players have experienced these problems. Since the update mid april almost 6 months ago performance has been abysmal. Its not an opinion its a known problem .

[@Tyrgalon]

Did you try adjusting your settings? depending on PC turning off some of the more intense extra settings can have a big impact.