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@adamlangley73413 жыл бұрын
I have an 8 ft shop light. Uses 4 ft bulbs. Have blue and red wires in the middle and yellow running to the end. I have double ended LED bulbs. How do I remove the ballast and wire that?
@pdjtw3 жыл бұрын
Hi, how do I do the opposite? I want to put fluorescent tubes inside a LED fixture... Please advise!!
@ianrandles4418 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mikes.1882 Жыл бұрын
Will hybrid tubes work with this conversion?
@sparky427 жыл бұрын
as a maint. man for H.U.D. for 20 years , I have done this many times and still find useful tips in watching these vids regardless if they are directed to the novice. Sometime they will show a cool retrofit or new tool or hardware that I have not seen before . It's all good . you are never done learning . Lighten up !
@singuyen41224 жыл бұрын
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@Bob_Adkins4 жыл бұрын
Converted my kitchen tubes to LED about 5 yerars ago, and been very happy. Since converted my small workshop. It was shadowy under my cabinets, so I made some under-cabinet lights. I bought 4 of the 48" 5000K tubes. Used round connectors to plug thin power cords to the prongs on the tubes, hung them up with rubber bands on magneitic hooks. Happy camper.
@willythehero884 жыл бұрын
4-5 years ago, I converted the one in my garage to LED and so glad I did. Although it took a bit longer than your demonstration--first time and I left the fixture mounted--it worked out fantastically. Now, I have such clear, white light in there whenever I need it without the hassle of having to replace the tubes so often.
@NcBassHoles3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing people the right way to convert to LED. Most people think you save money by just installing direct replacement LED bulbs that run off of the existing ballast. That will not save any money. You have to do the conversion the way the video depicts in order to save money. Nice job
@066motocross8 ай бұрын
Ballasts are quickly disappearing. Home Depot only has one type and plan to have none by next year
@phyl12835 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best instructional videos I have ever watched. You, sir, are a professional presenter. Thanks for giving me all the information I need to do this in my shop where I am always replacing Fluorescent tubes or ballasts or stumbling around in the dark. Make more instructional videos.
@denniskazich7559 Жыл бұрын
Finally seen a very informative video. Using meter to determine what tombstone fixture has. Single sided bulb is definitely the way to go. Very neat installation with zip ties etc. Class A job.
@obijuan30046 жыл бұрын
I recently bought LED tubes for the kitchen that work with a ballast, I wish I had seen this video first. I have two florescent fixtures in the garage, in one the ballast died this week. I’m switch to direct wired LEDs as things die out. Thanks for the video.
@richardscathouse5 жыл бұрын
Plus leaving the ballast insures greater electric usage! Go bypass and save
@horseracingfreetips7853 жыл бұрын
Converted to LED years ago, bought an LED tube from amazon, came with a special replacement starter to replace the fluorescent tube one. LED will light up only if plugged in the right way round but that was it. Job done and still working. No more flashing tube lights.
@Fresh2Salt5 жыл бұрын
Did three fluorescent lights today...took about 15-20minutes each. Thanks for the vid.
@rustylewis27515 жыл бұрын
I TOO MISSED THE PART ABOUT THE YELLOW WIRE. i SAW YOU ROLL UP THE RED WIRE AND TIE IT WITH A ZIP TIE. REAL CLEAN JOB. THIS IS MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE THAN REPLACING THE WHOLE FIXTURE AS ONE PERSON RECOMMENDED. GREAT VIDEO.
@ToolboxDIY5 жыл бұрын
The yellow wires only went to the far end tombstones - the ones that don't do anything other than hold that end of the tube in place. I bundled those up much like I did the red wire. However, there is one yellow wire that goes from one end all the way to the other. l just left it in place since it isn't doing anything and does not get energized at all. You could also completely cut this wire out, if you choose.
@captainkanji17 жыл бұрын
I've been converting all my lights to LED. At first it was cost prohibitive, but now it's affordable. I love the longevity.
@stinkycheese8047 жыл бұрын
You seem to be putting the cart before the horse. You have no idea about the longevity because you just got them. Come back in 15 years and if they still work, THEN you have a valid claim. If you think you can trust the cheap ("affordable") LED light lifespan ratings, I have bad news for you.
@ee42314 жыл бұрын
@@stinkycheese804 Fluorescents lose their brightness rather quickly, LED's dont. That right there justifies the "longevity" comment as far as I'm concerned.
@JC-yb3zb4 жыл бұрын
@@stinkycheese804 Not having a ballast makes it worthwhile to me right off the bat.
@Squarehead457 жыл бұрын
I have seen a LOT of vids explaining various thing. YOUR'S sir has to be the MOST simple and Direct instructional vid to date. No stories about how Aunt Hilda stubbed her toe because of bad light or the time you and a friend made your dog Bark at the light. I like that..when I look for an Instructional Vid I want Instruction and NOT Stories of relatives no one ever heard of..thanks for being so Direct. Be safe and have a Great Week.
@dennisdesourdyjr92324 жыл бұрын
Perfect. You covered everything I needed to know and then some. Learned more than I bargained for. Feeling pretty confident in upgrading the lights in our deli now. Thank you so much.
@shopart14885 жыл бұрын
I recently converted 31 6 & 8 tube units. I did not need to change the tombstones. I used 5000K bulbs. The shop now is like working out side on a sunny day. A plus to LED is no or very little heat is generated, so in my shop with saw dust it’s a nice perk. From my days of wiring homes we did not bundle wires and tie them up because of heat build up we would let them just be loose. I do realize with LED there’s not much amp draw so probably not any heat buildup in your bundles but if it was for another heavier amp draw item it may make a difference. Nice video I’m sure it helps people that are wandering through the LED maze.
@gij7495 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the instructional video! I replaced the ballast fluorescent lights in our kitchen with the non-ballast LED lights. Easy-peasy, and we'll save on energy usage!
@surendersingal2192 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking on bolts nuts parts n techniques of conversion. Great hands on workshop.
@DRPowell4 жыл бұрын
Here’s a little tip before you spend extra money for non shunted tombstones. Some holders have a fiberboard cover on the back side. Gently pry off the staple and cover and look for a clip connecting the two pin tabs. Remove that clip (it should lift right out) and you now have a non shunted tombstone.
@tonystephenson99612 жыл бұрын
When I opened mine, there was just a wire on bottom between the two sides. I cut that and voila, non-shunted.
@patrickarchuleta95942 жыл бұрын
Make your own video thanks GOD bless you
@dennislord79314 жыл бұрын
I’m knowledgeable around electricity and converted a Lifelite unit last night. What a different setup! Transformers, capacitors, and startup circuitry instead of your typical ballast. Another difficulty is removing the tombstone holder. Manufactured to be a “one-time”install, it’s a pain to unclip it and get it apart. It took four hands to do it but opened with patience and didn’t break the plastic molded clips. I also found a never soldered wire... no wonder it flickered. My helper was confused but I understand shunted/nonshunted. He wanted to insert a replacement tombstone. But Lifelite doesn’t use the standard snap-in units. So, as you showed, I used my VOM to verify the existing tombstones were non-shunted because we had to use the existing tombstones. You were smart in your video to teach that. We cut out all electronics; two transformers, two capacitors and resistors and the startup circuitry and reduced it to simple 120 VAC hot/neutral at one end for both bulbs. The only thing we left in place was the power ground connection. Snapped the tombstone units back together, inserted the single-ended LED while paying attention to which end power goes in, and it worked perfectly. Only eight more of these to go!
@1942nn4 жыл бұрын
I did try this 8 months ago, bought two LED tubes with the connectors on both end. Instruction shows very easy to take out the old connectors and put in these new ones. That is the hard part, I could not even get this going so I returned them. Then I bought LED tubes which include metal housing from Amazon for the same cost,. These LED tubes come in as complete unit. Take off the entire old tube fixtures, then install these in (only two screws needed to attach it to the ceiling or wall), then do the standard 3 wires connection to the old wires (black, white and ground) that feed the old tubes. This is simpler. REMOVE OLD ONE COMPLETELY , INSTALL NEW ONE.
@Really2u4 жыл бұрын
My hero. Those flourescent lights make me dizzy and fatigue me. Make me sick. I hate being around them. Grocery stores and companies that use fluorescents make me mad. So glad you made this video. You are up with the times. Those flourescents are just ancient history. It is a part of history that needs to be retired to history and never used again. Lots of people are effected by flourescents. They just don't know why they feel the way they feel. You are helping lots of people. I wish companies would get the hint and drop their tubes. LED is the way of the future. Saves lots of money. I cut my electric bill in half by just using LED over those curly lights. LED good for your health. Good for your wallet. They do last a long time. Keep up the good videos. I just subbed. You are the MAN!!!
@damonedwards67247 жыл бұрын
This was an very good class on how to convert over from Florescent to LED! You made it look so easy to the average home owner do it yourself guy or gal!! Thx for posting your informative video!!😋
@ZackKoutaRoxas4 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooooooooo much! We just moved into a new place and the fluorescent lighting in the kitchen was loud, flickery and giving me a headache. Following your instructions I've successfully converted to LEDs. They're easier on the eyes and don't make that head-splitting buzz! Much appreciated :D
@jimquinalty22905 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. I was considering replacing my florescent lights in my shop. Now I will just convert them.
@labude95 жыл бұрын
thank you. I watched a bunch of videos that kept telling me to connect all the positives on one side and the negatives on the other, thinking that made no sense. Your video was what I needed and made me realize that those other videos were all for double ended tubes. Made sense immediately.
@williamking74205 жыл бұрын
I'm confused...I'm not sure if you are aware of it but you contradicted yourself at 3:57 in the video. You described the lamp holders that were already in the fixture and that you needed to replace as non-shunting when you previously (and later towards the end of the video) described them as shunting lamp holders. You did state correctly in other parts of the video that the fixture in which you were replacing the lamp holders, require non-shunting lamp holders on the power end of the lamp.
@bernettastevenson19144 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. My walk-in closest have been a nightmare for us. The contractor put in fluorescent lights, but cheap ones. So it is constantly going out. When I saw this video, I thought what have I got to lose. It was so simple and easy to do. The lights are so much brighter in both closet. I can actually see clothes and shoes well to see if they goes together or not. Thank you, thank you.
@andreaschristodoulou42747 жыл бұрын
I'am a professional electrician and i do recommend single ended led lamps cause are lot of easy to fix them, by the way rarely seen shunted lamp holders unless they are electronic ballast driven. ( wired ballasts or choke coils are more common in my country since they more reliable and long lasting)
@tubester45672 жыл бұрын
This work as described in the video is also illegal in many western countries unless you are an electrician. For most people its better to just buy a light that is designed for LED tubes, although its more expensive.
@twobrokenarrows Жыл бұрын
Concise. Safe. Did it the right way. Great editing - didn't show redundant parts we didn't need to see. Great job, sir! Loved the video.
@vikkigoodwin83226 жыл бұрын
OMG!!! I just did it!!! I LOVE it...thank you for such a detailed video! Woooohooo...Light again..:)
@ToolboxDIY6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Nice work.
@anthonytidey20053 жыл бұрын
Thank for the diy fluorescent to led conversion. I'm in the UK so we have diffrent wiring, colours, fixtures and connectors. Nice at the end that you explained the light o/p in lumins and the colour. I refitted my lights when thay came out in the UK with Lidl ones bacically reducing my light if all on from 2500 watts to 175 Watts about 10 to 15 years ago. The rule of thumb is you will save approximate 90% of power used. Unfortunately they were 3000 lumins warm colour, so very yellow over the years changing them to 6000 lumins daylight colour. Just subscribed to your channel. Thanks.
@rickpolicastro54745 жыл бұрын
This information will save me several hundred on my shop lighting conversation
@Steve_K23 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Clear explanations, no background "music," no wasted time. Many thanks.
@ToolboxDIY3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@BucketListBadass5 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole video, now I'm a certified LED technician. When do I get my diploma? LOL! Good video...thanks!
5 жыл бұрын
Same place he did. LOL
@felixmadison57364 жыл бұрын
From Trump University! Your diploma will be as worthless as Trump himself. LOL!!!
@SirBaron524 жыл бұрын
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@victorriga98142 жыл бұрын
Great video. Not sure if anyone noticed but there is a glaring error at the 3:55 minute mark of the video where you state you need to "replace these non-shunted lampholders with shunted lampholders". It's actually the opposite. You need to replace shunted lampholders with non-shunted lampholders"
@diegohperez64347 жыл бұрын
Very good and very clear i must said everything is very simple thank you
@Mphoto75 жыл бұрын
Outstanding tutorial. Well spoken, clearly stated and technical without being too difficult. Your bundling all the excess wire begs the question, "why not just cut off all the excess so that you don't have to bundle it"?
@ToolboxDIY5 жыл бұрын
I felt it was unnecessary to cut all those wires off. If I cut them, then I have to strip 12 wire ends. Since I knew that the bundle would be hidden behind the reflector, I just thought it was easier to bundle. Also, those wires carry very little current so heat build up was not a concern.
@bailey.nt866 жыл бұрын
My electricity bill is about 100$ a month with all the CFLs in my house. Not changing anything else in the house except for the light bulbs. I managed to save an average of $25-30 a month in my home. This is a 4 month average. I didn't tell the family anything. We used the same amount of light but got billed for way less each month. I think it's worth it in the long run.
@monroekunz13316 жыл бұрын
Replaced every bulb in my house. Now with outside lights on all inside lights on total of 190 watts. 3 bedroom home
@SeanONeill136 жыл бұрын
But what was the capital cost to covert those? Did you include those costs?
@smartcatcollarproject56996 жыл бұрын
@ki0ng That's apparently a real issue... rats tested with LED's demonstrated measurable destruction on retina cells, at domestic lightning levels ! Don't look at those lights ! The worst issue is maybe on the road, though... much brighter. The light they diffuse is also quite cold, I need to find warmer color temps (couldn't find incandescent bulbs anymore last time, only cold white or colored LED's, not what I was looking for) Maybe some day LED's will end like fluorescent lights, limited to kitchen and public spaces ?
@jimdeere22048 ай бұрын
Great video. Now...do it on an 8' ladder, overhead, in a row that goes to the other end of the building. Then, start on the next row. When you're done, go up to the next floor and start over. I understand, it's a helpful video for novices. Keep 'em coming.
@johnhoward69335 жыл бұрын
At the beginning, 4:03 in, you say to use shunted lamp holders, but later you say you have to use non shunted lamp holders. I know which is right. I just thought you shuold know.
@stevekopcial1296 жыл бұрын
Well worth the conversion, my home is 100 percent LED for about 8 years, I have integrated Alexa and motion sensors (Insteon) when you walk into a room the light will come on for a pre etermined time or on my steps I have the LED 35 ft light strip, no more turning on and off the lights, its a wonderful thing.
@montyschnoodle69937 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. That explained the issue perfectly.
@esthergee36667 жыл бұрын
I needed to watch because I have a mounted kitchen light that is fluorescent and the ballasts failed. Therefore, decided to change it over to LED istead of replacing ballasts..specially since the lumens on LEDs is so much brighter than fluorescent. I love my 4 ft kitchen fixture and can't find a replacemet....and the LED fixtures I've seen to match are hundreds of dollars. So this is worth it to me. Thanks.
@camillefuller21667 жыл бұрын
around minute 3:55, you talk about replacing the non-shunted wire holders with shunted wire holders. Isn't it the other way around? I believe minute 11:47 has it right, so I understand the concept. Very informative video. Thanks for the info.
@ToolboxDIY7 жыл бұрын
Nice catch, Michel! You are correct, that was stated backwards. For a conversion to single ended LEDs, you are replacing shunted lamp holders with non-shunted.
@johnb.1217 жыл бұрын
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@robbeady9346 жыл бұрын
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@frankieraymond5 жыл бұрын
as a maintenance man I cant begin to tell you on a room change out for bulbs how many ballsts I changed in twenty years for multistory buildings. my partner and I would take turns climbing the ladder when relamping a floor.I like the idea NO ballasts involved. Wiring by someone else caused havoc on some nonworking fixtures. I enjoy your knowledge on the show I subscribed to. Verizon now retired.
@2541968joey5 жыл бұрын
Solid well done video, thanks for your time & solid method to teach, share.
@QCBikeCommuter2 жыл бұрын
THIS was the explanation I needed. It wasn't even explained in the instructions that came with my GE bulbs (double ended) Thank you so much! 😀
@ToolboxDIY2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@ChristopherGaul7 жыл бұрын
I've been encouraging my corporate customers to do this for decades. Basically since these tubes became available. For those that balk at the capital outlay of a full conversion (especially in areas without green incentives on them) I tell them to simply convert a fixture each time a ballast inevitably fails.
@jbdragon32957 жыл бұрын
A T8 Florescent bulb is costing me $3 in packs of 10. The Hyperikon T8 LED's I get cost about $11 each. These are 120-277 Volt. I need 277 volt!!! Not a normal Home Depot LED replacement unless I got one that needed the ballast. I've replaced them to LED's in a couple offices. I've like to convert more as the bulbs or ballast go bad. Havn't made that move yet to do the rest. The front office wants to do their own thing, and plan things, and then it never gets done, instead of myself just doing it.
@gowdsake71036 жыл бұрын
Have never known a balast to fail but granted they could but they also draw some power so best to get rid
@edschu13176 жыл бұрын
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@jasonwong6705 жыл бұрын
@@jbdragon3295 $11each ? The T8 tube 18W 1800lm ,pf0.9, we ship to US just cost 2.3$
@mikes.1882 Жыл бұрын
@@gowdsake7103 They fail all the time
@tobo263 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video and I agree 86ing the ballast and extra junk is the best way to go.
@jokerseriously5145 жыл бұрын
Just some legal info... If you change the construction of a fluorescent fixture the fixture needs to be recertified in Canada. If it causes damage to a person or property you will be held liable. Plus, the tombstones are not rated for 15 amps, so this retrofit does not meet Canadian code.
@geodome994 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And where is the disconnect?
@visnuexe2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your DYI. I have 12 florescent old style double ended overhead lights that I want to convert to LED. I haven't investigated how much this will cost me, though I have purchased LED lights for my fish tank. Your video gives me options that I didn't know I had!
@khaiwanna56907 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir, you've been helpful. Keep up the good work
@melvis201720 күн бұрын
Thanks for the update and the way you explain things thanks once again for the efforts and for sharing this with us appreciation 🇩🇰👍happy new year
@monroekunz13316 жыл бұрын
For the cost of the bulbs and conversion you can just about buy a nice led fixture you can drop in and connect wires. Much easier quicker looks bettet and gives better light
@phyl12835 жыл бұрын
And send the old ones to the landfill???
@Mcss-lu5hv4 жыл бұрын
Not as easy if your in a shop or commercial building where you have conduit running to each fixture with wires from one to the next.
@davidbarnes65835 жыл бұрын
I have already changed mine to LEDS, On some of the 4 light fixtures I changed the one end blub did not fit. I had to use the pin cap to wedge the cold end without the tombstone. Your presentation is the only one I found using the single ended LEDs.
@stevenperlman58115 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial, covers everything you would need to know.
@ralphvickers23394 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@JamusaflP6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I can now see things much better. My kitchen, garage and shed has a whole new look. Can wait to to convert the rest of me house lighting fixture to this technology.
@mikemalone98966 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this very informative video. You explained it well and I understand lighting much better now. Thanks for sharing.
@stevenkammerer51174 жыл бұрын
Mm
@billybull74194 жыл бұрын
Lol. It's an uncle reunion
@G31mR4 жыл бұрын
At one point you said we needed non-shunted lamp holders for the LED bulbs. Then, at 3:57, you said we need to replace the non-shunted holders with shunted holders. A bit confusing, but I think your first statement is the correct one.
@ToolboxDIY4 жыл бұрын
The first statement was a mistake and incorrect! These tubes need non-shunted holders. See description for the correction.
@G31mR4 жыл бұрын
@@ToolboxDIY I get it: the first statement was correct and the second statement was not. BTW, I just got done converting the first of many fixtures to use the LED tubes. Took an hour, mostly because I soldered all the wire connections. Thanks for the video, it gave me confidence to finally tackle the job.
@therandomking12654 жыл бұрын
You have contradicted yourself, You said at the beginning you said you need non shunted lamp holders and then said that you need to replace the pre existing non shunted lamp holders with shunted ones. Did you mean that you need to replace the pre existing shunted ones with non shunted ones? And to fully clarify, do I need shunted or non shunted if a am replacing with a single ended lamp like yours?
@Ray000694 жыл бұрын
If they’re single ended led bulbs. You can simply disconnect the other end and use it as a holder because there is no current running them.
@richardgordon79402 жыл бұрын
He did misspeak and say he was going to install shunted tombstones but of course he installed non-shunted.
@BrucesShop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.I was wondering about the single ended confections.
@robertheinkel62254 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the bulb manufacturer. Some require both ends to be wired, while others only require one end wired. I recommend determine which style bulb you want to use, and make sure all your bulbs are the same. I have converted over 700 bulbs so far.. most tombstones are non shunted, and don’t require replacement.
@taijlallbrij57646 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon, I like your video, I was wondering how much electricity do I save if I change to led from Florence lamp
@ToolboxDIY6 жыл бұрын
Many 4 foot T8 fluorescent tubes use 32 watts of electricity. 4 foot LED replacement tubes use anywhere from 12 to 24W. You'll find most of them are about 18W. So the savings is 14w per bulb.
@jyoti90435 жыл бұрын
Very nice and knowledgeable for non technical person. In home where single fluorescent is in use there old fitting doesn't match because the length of LED tube is shorter.
@427Sparky8 жыл бұрын
I recently converted my fixture to the LED tubes before I saw this. I never knew LED tubes they came in single ended. The local hardwares store by me only had the double ended tubes. I decided to keep the ballast in place in case I decided to go back to fluorescent tubes. There have been complaints about LED's not lasting very long. Also with mine I had the non shunted tombstones and I had to make them shunted in order to make my LED tubes work. Thank you for putting this video out, but people should do there home work before taking on this retro fit. One important thing to note is to make sure your ballast is compatible, mine wasn't. Best to call the manufacturer of the LED tubes to find out for sure. The people at my local hardware store didn't have a clue as to what ballast to use.
@ToolboxDIY8 жыл бұрын
Excellent point about checking ballast compatibility! I overlooked this since I was removing the ballast altogether. I think it's a great idea to keep the ballast if it's good, but bypassing it will prolong it's life if you ever decide to go back to fluorescent bulbs. Out of curiosity, do you know why your fixture already had non-shunted tombstones? Does the fixture have a starter in addition to the ballast?
@deilingchen-fullwin70467 жыл бұрын
Ballasts compatible LED tube must come with a compatibility list, local hardware store should check the ballast for its customer before selling out the tubes, this is responsibility. Ballast compatible LED tube is a way for fast retrofitting, and another way for fast rewiring is to get a double ended type B LED tube.
@scharkalvin6 жыл бұрын
Some of the tombstones he had in the fixture had two wires and were probably non-shunted. He replaced them to show how to do it. Actually many fixtures have non shunted tombstones that are wired as shunted. Some of these lamp holders have the wires 'back stabbed' in (like switches do) and can be rewired either way. Costco is selling replacement LED tubes that are double ended and are meant to be used with ballasts. I've used these to upgrade existing fixtures, it's easier to do as there is no rewiring. Also, since the LED tubes draw less power, the ballasts are likely to last longer as they will not get as hot. Also most of the LED tubes are T8's, but they can replace T12 bulbs. One problem with the LED's (especially the 6 and 8 foot ones) is that they are not as rigid as the glass tubes and will sag in the middle. Not a problem if you have a lens in the fixture covering the lights, but if not you might need to add a support clip in the middle of the tube.
@greggmcclelland84306 жыл бұрын
I replaced my fluorescents with LEDs without replacing the ballasts. The 8 tubes use a total of 240 Watts. I think they would use much much less if I got rid of the ballasts. I am looking for ways to get rid of power drain, so this video was helpful in understanding how the LED's work. I will get my multimeter out and take some measurements as well as look up the LED tube specs to understand what I'm dealing with.
@dae3xt7 жыл бұрын
this video is a lot more informative than others out there. Thank you.. I won't burn my house down following this information/tutorial.
@MichaelOZimmermannJCDECS7 жыл бұрын
very professional easy to understand instructions!
@garybeggs82824 жыл бұрын
Very informative, especially when describing shunted v non-shunted lamp holders and which LED bulbs are compatible with which setup
@jakejones57364 жыл бұрын
I have done several conversions and never changed the ends. You simply connect the hot to one wire and the common to the other.
@DRPowell4 жыл бұрын
Jake Jones - That’s the proper method on a double ended bulb but as was stated in the video, some bulbs are single ended. One pin is marked L1, the other N. The ETI retro fit kit from Home Depot is configured this way. The pins on the other end are not connected to the internal strip. They are just there to hold the lamp in place.
@jakejones57364 жыл бұрын
You said that you replaced the NON-shunted holders with shunted holders. But from what I can tell, you actually did the opposite. 3:53 Perhaps it was just an accidental mix-up of terms? Guess I was lucky in that every fixture had TWO wires into each holder on one end of the fixture. But yeah, I understand that there is no way to attach two wires (hot & common) to the holder, that the electrical end of the LED tube connects to, if there is only one wire coming out of it.
@macburn Жыл бұрын
Wow! Super easy to follow, and extremely well-explained. Any time I had a question, you soon answered it. Thank you! Subscribed!
@rrich528066 жыл бұрын
At home I just replace it with $10 LED sets from Walmart. Left old transformer in. Works fine. Plug and play.
@fredsinfield56484 жыл бұрын
Some bulbs are direct replacement but the ballast sucks too much power, inefficient, puts out a lot of heat.
@jasonjason878310 ай бұрын
I watched your updated video for this and watching this one now. You’ve got a follow from me that’s for sure! Thanks for the insight
@johndonaldson51267 жыл бұрын
I have replaced fluorescent tubes with two different LED tubes in our house. One required rewiring to eliminate the ballast., the other just plugged in with no modifications. Obviously the ballast draws power so it is good to eliminate it. In both cases the LED bulbs are performing perfectly. The come on instantly, don't flicker, are brighter than the bulbs they replaced, and none has failed after a year.
@aaronb4837 жыл бұрын
The drop-in replacement I can find almost every Home Improvement store and cheap. Around $6 a bulb. But the ones that where you take the ballast out are four times as much. Even on Amazon more expensive.
7 жыл бұрын
Another benifit is they work in a cold environment. fluorescent lights HATE the cold and take forever to warm up and give useful light. The colder it is the worse they are. LED is unaffected by cold and you have instant light.
@rockymtns997 жыл бұрын
Dug Bard
@antlane3657 жыл бұрын
The Ballast dont draw power, it is just a length of wound wire.
@jbdragon32957 жыл бұрын
The ballast is just something more that could go wrong. They can also cause buzzing sounds. They also do FAIL. For me I feel it's just better to toss them. So I replaced the fluorescent T8 bulbs in the owner's office and the HR's office. using LED bulbs that work over 120-277 volts. All the lights in the factory are powered by 277 volts. There's so many more lights I could do also. Some also are connected to a battery backup system that's in them. I've had to replace a few ballasts and battery backup systems. It's not hard, you basically rip the ballast out and all the wiring going everywhere. You replace the Keystone on 1 side with a new one. One that allows a black wire connection on one side and a White Wire connection on the other side. Normally both those pins on a florescent Keystone are the same and linked together. That wouldn't work for getting power directly. It's a simple wire hookup. The other side of the fixture there's no wires at all, the only thing it's now doing is holding up that side of the T8 bulb. I also put a label in them that saw 277V Power end, LED Conversion. Just in case it's not me that's doing something with them. These things should last for YEARS and YEARS, and use a fraction of the power. There's no ballast in them to ever have to deal with either now. If I used the lights in my garage a whole lot more, I would start switching them out. Hell I may do that once the bulbs start to fail. The cost of LED keep dropping. Most of the bulbs in my house these days are LED's.
@mickjager59744 жыл бұрын
I just bought led bulbs that worked in my florescent fixture. Boom done.
@thereal440volt7 жыл бұрын
Might be a good idea to mention how incredibly sharp the edges of sheet metal light fixtures are. Everybody does things different, but using the internal wiring to bundle itself makes for easier troubleshooting if required. And I would always use wirenuts for wire connection. I just don't trust those "push and pray" gizmos. At least I worried about that kind of stuff before I retired ;-)
@pbarnrob7 жыл бұрын
Sharp sheet metal-- same on computer cases! Mfrs used to tumble in walnut shells, knock off edges, but no more! I call it A FOREST OF RAZOR BLADES! Bring Band-Aids and Neosporin when you open all these things, and if you'll be back in there (or it's your own toy) take a file to accessible edges, then clean up steel dust with a magnet and tack cloth (before it gets between fine traces). Do it right, the first time. Did my shop a couple years ago, no regrets; removed ballasts, cleaned and repainted white inside surfaces.
@kthwkr7 жыл бұрын
My experience is that most of those metal cases are apparently made by Wilkinson Sword. Just like the warning on food products about peanuts they should have a warning that "These cases are made in a factory that also makes razor blades."
@fpvm4k3r7 жыл бұрын
I hate that! I'm an electrician and I've cut my hands on quite a few sharp fluorescent fixture edges. It's like a papercut, it sucks! I always used wire nuts for a while when wiring ballasts and such but after doing it for so long and the time saved using the push-in connectors are well worth it. I only use the ideal brand which I've never had a failure on. Also gotta use some common sense like don't use them for anything but ballast wiring, always do a quick "tug" test. If the connection doesn't hold up to being given a good tug then the connection is not made in my eyes. Amazing how many helpers I've worked with who were never taught the good 'ol tug test. Can save you a lot of troubleshooting down the line bc a connection will look like it's good up until someone pulls it out of the box
@Sembazuru7 жыл бұрын
Not only are most modern sheet metal assemblies nothing but assemblages of razor blades, but by cutting those zip-ties that way you are adding even more flesh rending points. Use a flush-cutter and cut flush to the zip-tie head. (Your wire cutters are diagonal cutters. Flush cutters have the outside of the blades ground such that the cutting edges are flush with the outside face of the blades. Your knuckles will thank you next time you need to work on these.)
@fpvm4k3r7 жыл бұрын
Flush cut plyers aren't part of your average electrician or homeowner's tool chest, BUT if you have a pair of linesman plyers you can twist the 'lil buggers til they snap off. The result is a nice soft nubbin of broken plastic. If I'm using the big thick tie wraps I'll usually cut little chamfers on those sharp edges if cutting into hands or other wires is a concern
@drEmulatorMadmax3 жыл бұрын
wow am i out of date lol till today i had never heard of shunted and unshunted fluorescent lamp connectors subbed
@AcademicPROFIT7 жыл бұрын
excellent vid -- thank you.
@erroldillon15486 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. You can cut the long wires and it will be a neater look. Also after cutting the wires you can work with them easier. Thanks for the excellent video. I thoroughly enjoyed everything about the video.
@Visionery15 жыл бұрын
3:57, don't you mean you'll be replacing the shunted with non-shunted? Sorry, I only saw your correction above now. :)
@CogentConsult6 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Brief, and straight to the point. I will now be converting 6 of my 4-foot fluorescent fixtures to LED. Thanks!
@blueribb997 жыл бұрын
Replacing fluorescent bulbs with LED is only about 50% more energy efficient, depending on what type of fluorescent bulbs you have. The mail reason I converted was because of the noise the ballasts make. Late at night it drove me crazy. Also, in a cold basement or garage, fluorescent bulbs may flicker until warmed up. LED's won't do that. Note: some (not all) LED bulbs are not instant on and may take a second or two to light up. This may take a little while getting used to. I don't recommend doing the conversion unless you have basic electrical wiring knowledge and skills. You'll want to look for 4000K color temperature LED's to achieve the same exact color as fluorescents.
@sharifsalem7 жыл бұрын
Glenn Watkins like LED bulbs, fluorescent lamps also come various color temperatures, not just 4000k.
@ronh93847 жыл бұрын
Glenn Watkins Glenn my Fluorescent ballasts drive me crazy with the noise as well. And when it's cold the noise is worse and the light output is crappy and flickers! What brand LED conversion tubes did you use?
@prepperjonpnw64827 жыл бұрын
There are way better colours than 4000k out there. I used specific colours for specific applications when I was an electrician with degrees in lighting engineering. In dairies I could get the cows to produce 17% more milk by useing certain colours and in classrooms for kids with ADHD or ADD certain colours have a calming effect. Plus, who wants to duplicate the colour of fluorescent bulbs anyways. Good video though he did leave out some important info
@blueribb997 жыл бұрын
I converted 4 dual tube ceiling mount fixtures using these bulbs: www.ebay.com/itm/161612851107
@blueribb997 жыл бұрын
Way better colors ? Color temperature is a personal taste when it comes to home lighting. Not everyone likes soft white (2700K) or ultra-white (5000K up). Most schools and homes use standard 4000K fluorescent bulbs.
@CU968215 жыл бұрын
Just bought a two pack of LED tubes from costco and put them right in..... they worked like a charm!! Not sure why the fuss over opening up the fixture and re-wiring things 🤪
@bobsbarnworkshop5 жыл бұрын
Ballasts put out high voltage, some LED's need that, others are designed for 120VAC which is typical house voltage, so you have to know the difference
@RasSosa7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video sir. Thank you. Mistake or no mistake. You covered your arse on this one. Soon farward...
@irishguy2000075 жыл бұрын
He joined the bulb directly to the mains power? How come they don't use a balast or such.
@williamking74205 жыл бұрын
@@irishguy200007 don't need a ballast for these bulbs. The required electronics is inside the bulb end.
@proanswers4 жыл бұрын
@@irishguy200007 LED light emitting diode uses a sine wave through drivers (like a ballast in non tech talk), there is no arching inert gas such as fluorescent plus your dealling with half the wattage with LED then 40 w att or higher flourscent that the drivers can control with lower wattage. If you were to put a LED driver bulb in a flourscent system with out removing ballast the arch charge would destroy the drivers instantly- possibly electrical fire.
@derickmccarrell65863 жыл бұрын
Man thanks for the video!!! Im super happy I seen this before I ordered new fixtures!! Thanks for giving good clear instructions. You da man!
@ToolboxDIY3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@ccswede7 жыл бұрын
Where did you find multi wire snap together connectors?
@ToolboxDIY7 жыл бұрын
Amazon. The brand is Wago.
@jerryshreve50717 жыл бұрын
Lars Eckman
@fbeckman7 жыл бұрын
Personally, I would not use that type of wire connector. The contact area between wires is significantly smaller than using traditional wire nuts. It is a similar connection to the push in connections on light switches and receptacles which I have seen others use many times and I have seen fail over and over again. The fix for them is to use the screws on the sides.
@MrCountrycuz7 жыл бұрын
Yeah those push in receptacles are used traditionally in single wide mobile home manufacturing.
@danmidkiff54167 жыл бұрын
fbeckman, can you provide a pic or link for the kind of connector you are referring to? Thank you in advance! I'm getting ready to do this change over and if a better part is out there, I'd like to have a look.
@kennethstevenson9763 жыл бұрын
When combining groups of wires give the groups several twists and the lengths will merge into tighter group which is neat and easy to fold and zip tie.
@ToolboxDIY3 жыл бұрын
Good tip. Thanks!
@utubetommy7 жыл бұрын
I installed a new 24" fluorescent F20T12CW undercounter lamp fixture in my kitchen about a year ago. The bulb draws 20 watts of power. I checked on a LED tube to replace the older style fluorescent bulb and found it draws 16 watts of power. For a savings of 4 watts, it's hardly worth the effort or cost effective to replace the 24" fluorescent lamp. The lamp assembly cost $30 to begin with, and at a savings of only 4 watts, not worth replacing. That said, I've replaced all my incandescent bulbs with LED's all over the house and in the front and back entryways outside. At a cost of $.95 for each LED bulb (subsidized by the government) it was indeed cost effective: equivalent 40, 60, 75 & 100 watt replacement (in Lumens) LED's draw 6, 9, 11 & 15 watts respectively. Now THAT is a savings I can see over time on my electric bill. But replacing a year old 24" fluorescent fixture with a LED to save 4 watts? Forget it.
@incubatork7 жыл бұрын
utubetommy , your old flourecent bulb loses about half its lighting power after about a year (it consumes the gas)and needs to be changed, even though it loses lighting power it still consumes the same. The LED will also lose power but slightly less than 1% per year.
@patcruz17397 жыл бұрын
utubetommy Stihl chain saw repair
@MakeMeThinkAgain7 жыл бұрын
The LEDs SHOULD last much longer. If the fixture is in a hard to reach position that's a good reason to switch to LEDs when your current tubes or ballast fail.
@The-Scots-man7 жыл бұрын
Derek Greenhalgh, you’re talking rubbish. I’ve had the same fluorescent tube in my kitchen for 15 years and it hasn’t lost any lighting power. Going by your analogy when I turn my light on at night it should still be dark. I was thinking the same thing, that it isn’t cost effective to even replace with a LED fixture never mind convert it. Both ways uses more Watts. Also we are led to believe that modern LED bulbs should last around 25 yrs. this is obviously non tested as the current versions haven’t been around long enough to test that theory. I think 15 years from my 11 watt lamp is good going. I could replace with LED that will fail in a week. That’s the reality is they have a much higher fail rate than any bulb out there. This is down to the power supply transformers within and not the diodes themselves so technically the diodes could last 25 years however the transformers won’t.
@fpvm4k3r7 жыл бұрын
Idk about half its light output, maybe a quarter. Also, magnetic fluorescent ballasts themselves as used by most T12 fixtures are very inefficient. The lamp may typically draw X watts but the actual input power draw may be more (or less) depending on the ballast driving it.
@brianbarrett59874 жыл бұрын
Good video. I would have put the part explaining the different bulbs and tombstones first as you did the repair information wthout context. That little nit aside good video. Thanks.
@davidsoutdooradventuresand67997 жыл бұрын
When switching to LED you don't need to use the ballast anymore am I correct?
@ToolboxDIY7 жыл бұрын
Generally, yes. I have yet to come across an LED replacement tube that *requires* a ballast. Many require removal of or bypassing the ballast while some will work with or without the ballast. Just be sure to check the tube manufacturer's instructions. I highly recommend removing or bypassing the ballast for one simple reason...that ballast will eventually fail so why not just remove that possibility when you have the fixture open!
@freshknife7 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with you. My ballasts are dead, that is why I want to change to LED. Don't waste money on replacing ballast.
@jbdragon32957 жыл бұрын
Some LED units still use the ballast. Makes them simple to install. Remote old Fluorescent light, pop in new LED light and done!!! It's that simple. Other LED bulbs use no ballast and are powered on either just the 1 end or both ends. The ones I've installed at work, I used the single end ones and replaced the Tombstones. They're called that because that is what they look like. Mini Tombstones!!! I think it's worth the little extra effort to toss the ballast and never have to deal with it again. It's something that could fail a year or 5 down the road. Why not take it out of the picture. They also have making buzzing type noises. It really is pretty simple to convert. After you do the first one, the following fixtures will be even easier. It's 3 wires, Black, White and Green/Bare-Ground. It's not rocket science. It's one of the most basic things you can do in home repair.
@Romin.7776 жыл бұрын
@@jbdragon3295 Tubestones.. get it? The pun? ;))
@dunckeroo19876 жыл бұрын
Some are designed to work with the original ballast : Very good for cold weather and more light. But convert if your goal is to save most energy,
@bozhang17464 жыл бұрын
Very good !
@micglobal7 жыл бұрын
I understand you misspoke and said shunted instead of non-shunted, but this is such a huge error that you should really reshoot this portion of the video and take this one down. This error could be dangerous and result in a direct short if someone follows this wrong instruction.
@dougiequick16 жыл бұрын
Yes!! VERY irresponsible to leave this video as is ...he has people buying shunted tombstones to replace non shunted ones which is RIDICULOUSLY STUPID! You only need to buy ONE non shunted tombstone IF there is not one available for each tube in the fixture....DUHH!! FIX the video! Don't just leave it all confusing!
@JM-nh8yp6 жыл бұрын
@@dougiequick1 how do I know if mine is shunted or not? I have 4 bulbs in a 2×4 foot fixture recessed into my ceiling tile ceiling. I understand (some?) LEDs only need power on one side? Watched a few videos and its confusing. I've seen some people kerping like colors connected, and others mixing colors
@HDRider16016 жыл бұрын
@Todd R if you currently have ballasts you can buy led bulbs that use a ballast or bulbs that don't require ballasts. Ideally it's best to go non-ballast then you never have to worry about ballast failure or ballast start up in cold temps.
@richmorin81426 жыл бұрын
@Todd R He already explained the practical reason for swapping holders on one end with non-shunted.
@dlheuman16 жыл бұрын
He explained how to determine shunted and no shunted. Watch the full video.. @@JM-nh8yp
@guyh.45534 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you for for explaining if you do or do not need the ballast. Have several fixtures that need repaired. Dang you for creating yet ANOTHER fall/winter project for me! Ha ha ha ha.
@pepethefrog71936 жыл бұрын
Put in a "dummy starter" or "led starter" and the led bulb. No cutting of wires or ballast removal needed.
@livenfree5 жыл бұрын
Can you please link me to a video or website with what you are referring to?
@georgevarghese2384 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation. Thanks
@richardnone56446 жыл бұрын
the easy way is to go to home depot buy led tubes that work in your current fixture thats all i did and it worked perfectly just like i was replacing normal bulbs
@GamerEssentialsYoutube5 жыл бұрын
This is more for those interested in upgrading their fluorescent lights to remove a broken or damaged ballast. This also reduces the power consumption as the old ballast when left in still has the same amp draw.
@crowznest4384 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video - Thanks for all the information!
@saintpine7 жыл бұрын
5 Ohms on a short shunt!!!!! must be a multi-meter precision problem.
@ToolboxDIY7 жыл бұрын
It was a super cheap MM! I dropped the Fluke the week before this and destroyed the screen :(
@alexgray5527 жыл бұрын
Here in the UK older fittings using a passive ballast and a glow-starter are very common. Single-ended tubes are supplied with a starter that has a 2A fuse in it, so there's nothing to do except replace the old starter with the new one and plug in the tube. 30-second job! For double-end tubes the starter is simply removed and the tube installed. The power is running through the ballast, but the current is low and the power loss pretty small. LEDs still end up taking half the power of the equivalent fluorescent tube. Mine haven't faded at all in two years, unlike standard tubes which steadily fade and also flicker.
@johngriffiths6897 жыл бұрын
Bulbs grow in the groud. Lamps emit light
@bowtiethirteentwenty86276 жыл бұрын
en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/light_bulb
@gmverber4376 жыл бұрын
The interweb thanks you for the illuminating correction. Where can one find the 'groud' needed to grow bulbs? I have tried sourcing this locally, but without any success.
@saadman73110 ай бұрын
Great video, however also a point to mention that it's a lot easier to do this disconnected and sitting on table versus being on a ladder and back bent looking up in the dark. Haha 😆
@dixiedog11797 жыл бұрын
In an LED light, the driver is the first to fail, for this reason buy LED with separate driver. Best option.