How To End A Fight With A Knife Hand Strike │ Outside Chop

How To End A Fight With A Knife Hand │Outside Chop
Learn The Devastating Neck Knife Hand.
Disclaimer - I am not responsible for any accidents or injuries you have while trying to perform this move. I recommend that you train in a qualified gym to minimize the risks of injury when practicing any of these techniques. All moves should only be used in self defense and with reasonable force.

[@theguywithone]

You forgot the “IF everything goes your way.” Street and bar fights don’t go down like a lot of people think.

[@johnnymcnoodle27]

The best knife defence is ...run like hell.

[@glennrobinson7193]

I'm inclined to disagree with run like hell from a knife weilder. If you run and he catches up and you're too exhausted to do much against any attack. Best I think to try to use something as a barrier. If you're brave enough and determined enuf and have some presence of mind I would say go "all in" (like they taught our soldiers in WW2) with a full fore arm strike to his throat with full speed and body mass/weight. You might get a bit cut if he tries to deflect, but at least he's going to be asphyxiating layin on the ground. That type of technique only to be used in a life or death encounter.

[@Loriethalion]

@@glennrobinson7193 Nope. That's bad. Don't listen to this guy either. Running is a great idea, if you can't run for some reason, do as you're told, better to be robbed then to be dead. The big threat a knife carries with it isn't getting cut, it's to be stabbed. The attacker only needs to get lucky once, you must be lucky each and every time. One hit and you could be dead in seconds. Again, running is a great idea. An even greater idea is to completely ignore the fool in the video, and fools in the comments. Do your own research, get educated on this topic if you're worried and do your best to be the kind of person people don't want to stab.

[@glennrobinson7193]

@@Loriethalion Agreed 100% . You are right about being the kind of person who doesn't attract trouble; life is like driving on the roads, drive sensibly and defensively and you reduce any chance of getting into an accident.

[@Loriethalion]

@@glennrobinson7193 Good on you sir :)

[@rodvan-zeller6360]

if it is illegal in mma to strike the neck it means it works too well.

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

It's illegal to strike the throat in MMA. It isn't illegal to strike the side of the neck. The reason why MMA fighters don't do this is because it doesn't work in reality. Punches to the chin are significantly more effective.

[@rodvan-zeller6360]

@@seraphinaaizen6278 Strikes to the side of the neck do not work in reality? Would you be willing to allow some one to strike you on the side of the neck? So that we would have a reality tested answer ?

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

@@rodvan-zeller6360 Given I've spent rather a lot of time training in both boxing and karate, I HAVE had people hit me in the side of the neck. It actually occurs quite often. Not once has it ever knocked me out. I'm not saying it's impossible to knock someone out by hitting them in the side of the neck (in fact I know for a fact it IS possible), but it's not really possible to do it the way this video suggests. Certainly it's not going to work reliably or against someone who is actively defending themselves. The only time I've seen people get knocked out by a blow to the neck was with a high kick, and once when someone used their entire forearm, with their body weight behind it. I've never seen anyone getting knocked out by a flimsy little knife edged chop to the side of the neck. There is that video that goes around of a pair of supposed marines, and one of them appears to knock the other one out in this way, but I'm fairly convinced that video is not genuine; it appears to be a parody rather than a real demonstration. Anyone claiming that they've got a reliable, one-hit super move is attempting to con you. Because real fighting doesn't work like that. That's how martial arts work in movies, and garbage self defense youtube videos. And nowhere else.

[@rodvan-zeller6360]

@@seraphinaaizen6278 Thank you for the reply

[@Kashford]

@@seraphinaaizen6278 there's more than enough scientific evidence to prove that the brachial stun is incredibly effective. Just becuase it didn't work on you doesn't mean it's not real. Your 'evidence' is anecdotal at best. The ACTUAL location of the strike is between the side of the neck and the throat, that is where the brachial plexus is located, all across the torso and head, both sides. Of course it won't do anything, they're basically hitting your traps and side neck muscles.

[@glennrobinson7193]

He says, "It's 'extremely dangerous' so be careful". The aggressor is intent on killing you even maybe has a weapon in his hand, so you've got to be "careful"?????? That doesn't make any sense.

[@virtuaq]

More for training and as a warning. If you do this it could kill some one

[@cooldud7071]

Not all street fights are with black people.

[@John-ob7dh]

It will work if you hit them with a straight punch to the solar plexus , and while they are bent over and stunned , you can hit them with it easy .I have been hit in the dojo a few times in the solar plexus , and for a few seconds I was a helpless gasping statue.

[@glennrobinson7193]

@@John-ob7dh Yes I can relate, I have been kicked in the solar plexus in the dojo (forward thrusting kick), and it's very painful, takes the fight out of you doesn't it.

[@Gillan2Cold]

​@@cooldud7071???

[@douglashagan65]

Should have trapped inside of the neck triple threat card battery right pseudo chop to the throat Adam's apple left downward block to the knife attack grab top forearm finish off with half piston throat

[@victoranchondo924]

GOOD STUFF!!! 👍

[@Loriethalion]

No.

[@douglashagan65]

Right rich and strike to the throat card artery

[@douglashagan65]

Strictly straight defense this is not your show ballroom stuff that you see in the karate studios is what you use on the street Hannah combat my friend welcome to Bruce Lee Town center

[@H33t3Speaks]

I've always preferred a good pair of sneakers. Sheeesh, my guy... this is how you get poked the fuck up. Charge a gunman, run from a swordsman. Knife = baby sword. The "winner" of a knife fight dies in the ambulance. The loser dies in the street. Also, you're not doing the strike correctly.

[@Loriethalion]

I agree, it's either you run, or if for some reason you can't you do as you're told, shut your mouth and hope they're in a good mood. Better to be robbed then to be dead and robbed.

[@snach1983]

This is also known as marine corp jugular strike

[@SherrickDuncan]

It isn't the jugular though. It is the vagus nerve.

[@breadman5048]

Just say sorry and don’t start the fight

[@funbobby8525]

This only works if your a attacked by a statue!

[@edprince9079]

Learn train use

[@glennrobinson7193]

How is it "extremely dangerous"? The least reaction is he'll flinch &move his head away from the striking hand and raise his hands to cover/protect area where he has been struck on neck will he not, and the worst is he'll be knocked out. Much less dangerous than a king hit to face/nose/jaw area where he'll more than likely fall backwards and hit the back of his head on the pavement and could even die.

[@brandonh4527]

This is a dangerous technique due to it being that it is 1) a small surface area with a large amount of area being applied to it. 2) It is is a sudden jawing motion that can easily cause incapacitation. 3) The neck did not get a defensive structure as human evolution progressed, meaning it houses a lot of everything we need to survive (bloodflow, airflow, your spinal cord). 4) Due to the small surface area that the knife hand / hammer fists apply pressure to, it is quite easy to destroy things such as jaw bones, the esophagus, and the spinal cord if struck. 5) Especially for those that are ~50 years of age, they have built plaque platelets up in their veins / arteries, when you get a strong shocking and concussive blow like that to something like the jugular vein or other arteries in that area, you can dislodge that plaque that could cause things like strokes and aneurisms up to days later.

[@glennrobinson7193]

@@brandonh4527 Thankyou for your intelligent very well thought out explanation. So definitely not the go-to technique then for an anti social situation such as a bar fight or unruly drunk uncle at your birthday party, but ONLY for an ASOCIAL, i.e. worst case scenario when you're life is under threat.

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

@@glennrobinson7193 I wouldn't suggest it even then. This MIGHT work if your opponent is obediently standing there like a mannequin and letting you hit them. And if you and your opponent are about the same size so you're able to hit them hard enough to have any effect. And even IF you hit them, a knock out is in no way guaranteed. There's a reason why pro-fighters don't spend a lot of time swinging knife edges chops at each other's necks trying to score a magical one-hit knockout. This video is the kind of thing you see floating around on youtube produced by wannabe ninja warriors who have never been in a real fight in their entire lives, have never once stressed tested their techniques against live resistance, and who don't know what they're talking about. The only way to learn how to effectively defend yourself in a fight is to actually learn to fight. Go to a boxing gym. You'll learn more in one day that you'll learn watching this channels entire video library. Anyone claiming to have a magical super-move to end a "street fight" in one hit has probably never been in a real fight in their entire lives. Boxers have a pretty good track record of knocking people out with punches to the face. I'm not sure how often anyone has ever successfully knocked out a person with a knife edge chop to the neck in a real fight, but I'm guessing.......not often. Maybe never.

[@glennrobinson7193]

@@seraphinaaizen6278Seraphina Aizen. Do a proper study on anatomy and find out what happens if a very fast, hard edge of hand strike with proper placement to side of neck with full body mass and body weight, how it will temporarily stop blood flow to the brain causing unconsciousness. The idea is to STOP the fight. I for one hate "fighting", and if I went toe-to-toe with anyone with only minimal boxing experience he'd probably floor me. Besides, boxing is restricted by many moves being banned. And it's all competitive, with a ref to stand in the way if you get hurt. In the street it's not like that. It's no-holds-barred & it's no rules to protect you in the street. That's why I think boxing experience may help but can give false confidence because if came against a seasoned street fighter, or someone who knows moves that secret service agents employ that cause real injury requiring medical treatment not just to cause pain, he might get a big shock.

[@glennrobinson7193]

@@seraphinaaizen6278 Yeah go to a boxing gym and most likely you'll get injured. After suffering effects of injury for maybe a week or more, if accosted in the street, your self defense capabilities are severely compromised. A knife hand strike is unexpected in a real fight, therefore would be effective. You're talking about tit for tat exchange of punches and blows trying to best your "opponent". In the street you're not up against an "opponent", you're up against a real enemy who may want to kill you. A blow to side of neck doesn't need to be "stress tested". A solid punch employing full body mass to solar plexus doesn't need to be "stress tested", as if someone can condition the side of neck & solar plexus. Smash knee and he can't walk. Break clavicles which is not hard to do and he can't swing his arms to hit you. And unfortunately, for a very small guy like myself(5'4") and probably up against a much bigger guy(I KNOW this by experience) and he likely even to have had some boxing skills, I will need to even up the odds, not try to outdo him or best him in my 'skills'. Everyone has weak points, i.e. the vitals in their bodies. Thus far you are missing my point. In the street you are not trying to do better than your "opponent". In the street it's real. In the ring it's a game, with egos involved & under threat, not lives under threat. Fighting is hard work. It's for the egomaniacs. Finishing the fight by inflicting injury that compromises & reduces his fighting capabilities, such injury that requires medical assistance(NOT -NOT killing him!) is a lot easier.

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

While it's not totally impossible that you could knock someone out with a strike like this, the odds of it actually working in reality are almost nil. It's only likely to work if the person you are attacking happens to be obediently standing still and letting you do it, because their first reaction when you swing is going to be to move. And even then if you do manage to hit them, a knock out is far from guaranteed. Anyone claiming that you've got a reliable, one-hit superweapon to end a street fight is lying to you. There's a reason why people who actually learn to fight tend to favour punches to the face, and why pro-fighters do not spend a lot of time swinging knife edged chops at each other's necks to score an instant knock-out victory. This video is garbage. This technique is garbage. Neither of these men have ever been in a real fight in their entire lives.

[@brandonh4527]

The reality is that the strike is effective and in a similar format, the brachial strike is taught at a lot of Law Enforcement Academies, and is used with good effect. Surely there is no technique that is 100%, but it is a high percentage strike and you will get a good effect from the strike, if you land it, and we have seen things like this in the MMA ring as well with fighters throwing spinning strikes and missing their intended targets, or getting outside of the range of their intended target, and instead landing a strike like this. I agree that the video definitely needs some attention and to put out a video haphazardly like that is bad, but that has no bearing on the technique and it's effectiveness. It's in virtually every combat system, has been taught to an untold amount of soldiers throughout a very long time, and the British, as well as the US used this in as one of their hallmark strikes in their combatives system during WWII, and was seen later to have a very high effect, and made our spies very deadly when they needed to be, and they only had ~20-30 hours of combatives training.

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

​@@brandonh4527 The brachial strike is a real thing. But it's extremely unreliable, for the reasons cited above (note that you have probably never seen a law enforcement officer actually use it in a real life situation). "Surely there is no technique that is 100%, but it is a high percentage strike and you will get a good effect from the strike" No, it isn't. "and we have seen things like this in the MMA ring as well with fighters throwing spinning strikes and missing their intended targets, or getting outside of the range of their intended target, and instead landing a strike like this." Okay, there are a couple of problems with what you're asserting: The first and foremost being that what you're describing isn't what was seen in the video. The first being that knockout blows in MMA almost always strike the head, rather than the neck. The jaw is actually a MUCH more effective and reliably target for scoring a knockout than the neck is, and you're far more likely to knock someone out by hitting them on the jaw. Virtually all of the strikes you're describing that I've ever seen hit there rather than the neck. However, I do acknowledge that it is POSSIBLE to knock someone unconscious by hitting them in the side of the neck; it's just an extremely unreliable tactic (hell, even in the example you're giving, the professional fighter does it by pure dumb luck). And the only times I've ever seen it happen, with one exception, it was a complete fluke (the only time I've seen it done deliberately was a trained fighter against an untrained attacker, and the fighter struck with his elbow and/or forearm at the point where the neck meets the jaw, rather than the side of the neck). However, what the video presents is an open hand chop to the neck. Which isn't going to work in the first place. "It's in virtually every combat system" Except the ones that work. "has been taught to an untold amount of soldiers throughout a very long time" There is a lot of bullshido in the military and law enforcement. Neither soldiers nor police officers are hand-to-hand combat specialists. Indeed, very little emphasis is placed on hand-to-hand training in the military. Virtually all of the combat training centers around weapons. Most of the hand-to-hand training that soldiers undergo is more about aggression and attitude than it is about actual techniques. But the average soldier is considerably less effective in an unarmed confrontation than, say, someone who's spent a year or two studying boxing consistently. "and made our spies very deadly when they needed to be" Please stop getting your information from James Bond movies, seriously. This technique is garbage. Although it's not IMPOSSIBLE for it to work, not only is it extremely unreliable, it is not going to realistically work against a resisting opponent in the way this video presents it. Deal with it.

[@brandonh4527]

​@@seraphinaaizen6278 The point is it has been seen in MMA from time to time, yes the jaw strikes do work well too, but we have seen where they have missed their intended target, and still getting a knockout from the neck, and is a high percentage strike. I know a lot of people in Law Enforcement due to the nature of my job and yes, I do know know people that have asserted that the strike works as argued, and there are even a couple KZbinrs that are on video, like Hard2Hurt I believe, who is also former Law Enforcement and said that he has also used the strike at least 3 times during his career successfully. If you want to look down on systems that you probably have little knowledge of that's on you, but at the end of the day, the strike is in virtually every combat system known to man, because it's effective. If you have specific systems that you claim don't work, I assume you have data to support that. I've never seen a bad style, just a practitioner that can't apply it correctly, and there is nothing wrong with getting out of a system that is wrong for you, but to assume that it is ineffective because you couldn't make it work is wrong. With that being said, yes, there are some systems that tend to be on the better side of the spectrum, especially if you are taking instructors into account, but that is primarily based upon if you learned a budo or bujutsu art, and that's because it is shear philosophy and teaching method, not necessarily due to the material within the system. As you will note, I already stated in my previous answer that yes I agree that the military / government in general gives very little times dedicated to hand to hand combatives, but still as a main strike of their systems it showed very effective. My 'James Bond' movies that I am citing are unclassified documents from WWII era that exhibits their training program and their effectiveness with the OSS and SOE. I will give you that I don't like the representation in the video, but I'm not talking about the video itself, I am talking about the strike based on it's own merit, confirmed by empirical data , not the representation that it gets in this or any other video. You have to also remember that the video isn't showing you a tactic, they are showing you a skill that you later utilize in a tactic if necessary. If we looked at all skills as tactics, then virtually all of them would be worthless. You can't punch someone as effectively as inserting a kick in certain circumstances punches are worthless when at kicking distance, and so on. There are techniques that are used to aid skillset, like knowing how to build kinetic energy and effectively transferring that energy on a designated target, or hitting a target in a certain way to get a desired effect, which would also go along with the ability to transfer your energy to your target. You can refute the technique if you like, that's on you, but what matters is that when Fairbairns and Sykes made a curriculum for the military and it turned out to be highly effective because they generally knew what they were talking about, especially for the spies in the OSS and SOE program that they taught it to. The knife hand, or whatever your preferred nomenclature is, is a very viable strike that is high percentage when used correctly, even when used loosely based on this video, just like many other strikes, and it will continue to work because science / anatomy and physiology back it up. You may not like the strike and I get it, that's personal preference, but if you are saying that the strike is ineffective, then I would have to disagree with you because if I did assert that you were correct, then we would both be wrong. I welcome a respectful conversation, but I'm not going to listen to someone espouse they are right on the internet without giving me something that I can find data supporting, regardless if it is actually backed by science or anecdotally from situations that have occurred. If you're looking to try to just make people look wrong because you want to appear to be right, that's on you, but I'm not that person. I have real life stuff to attend to, so I will just let you be 'right', but when you reply with ' "Surely there is no technique that is 100%, but it is a high percentage strike and you will get a good effect from the strike" - No, it isn't.' you should have accredited data that asserts your answer, just a 'no, it isn't' is not a sufficient answer and the answeris reminiscent of a disagreement that you would find in a grade school argument.

[@randomawecity1927]

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[@seraphinaaizen6278]

​@@randomawecity1927 I've seen both of these videos. This first one I'm not actually convinced is genuine and think that these soldiers are actually playing around. I think that the marine that flops to the floor does so in such an exaggerated manner, but somehow remembers to tuck his head so he doesn't bang the back of his head against the wall, that I'm not convinced the reaction is genuine. However, even if it was, this would be an example of the technique working against a compliant, non-resisting subject who is making no attempt to defend himself. Although again: I think the veracity of the technique is in serious question. The second video you present is the ONLY time I've ever actually seen the technique working in a real situation. I've even references it elsewhere in the comments on this video. However, there are a couple of things that are worth noting: The first being that what this man does doesn't look ANYTHING like what is presented in the video. The martial artists strikes with his entire arm, with his body weight behind it, rather than a silly little knife hand chop. And rather than hitting the middle of the neck (as shown in both the bullshido video we're commenting on, and the video with the marines), he hits at the point where the jaw and the neck meet. Again, as I pointing out in previous comments: I'm not disputing that the brachial stun is a thing. I'm disputing that it's a) reliable and b) that it works the way this bullshido video presents it. This con-artist's video presents a floppy little knife edged chop to the side of the neck as kind of superweapon, guaranteed fighter ender. THAT'S what I'm disputing.