How to Explain to your Friends that LGBTQ Is Sin

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@Yakar-Yaoh.6651
@Yakar-Yaoh.6651 2 жыл бұрын
In this day in age it really doesn’t matter how you say it, nice and loving, or harsh and to the point. Either way it goes it will be labeled hateful.
@isaacoverman5922
@isaacoverman5922 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it doesn't change the outcome, but I would rather have compassion and being loving to a person in pain then to be cruel just because i won't change their mind either way. It may not matter to them. But it matters to God. At least that's how I see it. Great video!!
@NYXYN
@NYXYN 2 жыл бұрын
I know this will sound confusing and ridiculous but as a transgender woman, I never saw and labeled any part of God's Word hateful.
@rhoda4621
@rhoda4621 2 жыл бұрын
@@NYXYN it’s not! God loves all of His creation and cares for humans as we are made in His image. He showed how much He loves you by dying for you, taking the punishment we all deserve on Himself. I really hope you dive deeper into knowing God, I promise it won’t be a decision you regret. He promises to give you eternal life if you repent (turn away from sin) and believe in His son, that invitation is for all people. He will restore you
@ManaPower027
@ManaPower027 2 жыл бұрын
@@NYXYN that's a fair statement. God's word was and never will be hateful. For Christians and anyone else that has the time, they will realise though that God can't hate people, but the bible makes it very clear that he hates sin. But no matter the sin, God will always love you, he'll be sad (like all parents I guess if their kids did something bad in their eyes), but no matter what, God will never stop loving you. Hope this helps! 😊
@isaacoverman5922
@isaacoverman5922 2 жыл бұрын
@Horshu yes?
@thomasroussel3617
@thomasroussel3617 2 жыл бұрын
“God is offering us a separate identity, disconnected from sexuality.” Good word Isaac. You’re awesome!!! Praise Jesus
@jurassicpork8944
@jurassicpork8944 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@jurassicpork8944
@jurassicpork8944 2 жыл бұрын
@@obiwanjebroni505 Why should we think about our sexuality? God made us who we are and that's that. Our main focus is God not ourselves.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
God also wants to heal us from our homophobic lifestyles
@colonelrubix
@colonelrubix 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri amen. I’m not homophobic, I’m Sin-Phobic, and yet I am what I despise. Love the Gods image bearing Human, hate the sin.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@colonelrubix no such thing as sin-phobic. A phobia is irrational....are you saying you have an irrational fear of sin then? Thats weird. If you love God, reject the homophobic lifestyle choice as God does.
@praisewah6571
@praisewah6571 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, as someone who has friends that are in the LGBTQ+ I really what to spread the gospel to them in a loving, truthful, and understanding way. EDIT: Heyo, So I have been seeing some comments that are stating that I don’t love my friends or I’m not allowing to be themselves simply because I want to spread the gospel. For one: Nowhere in my comment did I say that. Christian are called to spread the gospel to EVERYONE, no matter your race, nationality, sexuality etc. EVERYONE has sin against God and we ALL need to be saved and hear his good news. When you love someone and care for them, you will tell them the truth, even if its hard. Secondly: Pls don’t try to dictate my relationship with my friends based on my a KZbin comment pls. God bless.
@praisewah6571
@praisewah6571 2 жыл бұрын
@Horshu Thank you, God bless you
@aishatomlinson8862
@aishatomlinson8862 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@jamesjames3603
@jamesjames3603 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a plus version
@alexandre6881
@alexandre6881 2 жыл бұрын
I'll pray for you and your friends
@Vauxatios
@Vauxatios 2 жыл бұрын
Same here,everytime I try to explain it to them,they change the topic or get upset
@Swansong343
@Swansong343 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard when your loved ones don't understand that you are pleading for their soul, they take it as offense and think you are being self-righteous. Even when we as Christians ourselves acknowledge we are also sinners.
@hasone1848
@hasone1848 2 жыл бұрын
If a scientologist came up to you baffled why they can't help you get your thetan level higher so you go clear and won't stop trying to convince you, don't you think you would consider them self righteous? Scientologists are also working on their thetan levels as well so they are just like you.
@josephsaab7208
@josephsaab7208 2 жыл бұрын
@@hasone1848 scientology is bs and Christianity is real, your analogy doesn't work
@hasone1848
@hasone1848 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephsaab7208 there is the same amount of evidence of scientology as there is Christianity, you have arguments and testimony, there is no empirical evidence for ether. As an atheist this analogy makes a lot of sense. Your loved ones might agree and if they do that is probably why they don't understand where you are coming from.
@josephsaab7208
@josephsaab7208 2 жыл бұрын
@@hasone1848 Haha no there isnt lol
@hasone1848
@hasone1848 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephsaab7208 then what is the evidence?
@solaceboy
@solaceboy 2 жыл бұрын
Your right. Being loving to members of the LGBTQIA community while sharing the Gospel will still result in being attacked and called names. The response I got is, "If you want to love me, you got to love my sin too." Also, Christians don't hate or fear gays, so please stop believing that.
@evilstan2463
@evilstan2463 2 жыл бұрын
@Quint then those are not true Christians, true Christians don’t hate
@davidm4566
@davidm4566 2 жыл бұрын
Christians have always been hated. That doesn't mean that we change His message.
@user-zq6yz5gf6d
@user-zq6yz5gf6d 2 жыл бұрын
@@evilstan2463 Indeed. We should let every work of our hands be in love.
@petemiller2920
@petemiller2920 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing says love quite like sharing your belief that God used to command people who had same-sex relations in OT times be put to DEATH. Just like ISIS.
@Michael_Oliver_
@Michael_Oliver_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@petemiller2920 I'd suggest you do more research on that, you're missing a ton of context if you think that was the outcome every time.
@vanillaval8563
@vanillaval8563 2 жыл бұрын
I feel as if God put this video in my recommended… for several months I have been worrying about this situation since I have a few friends that are LGBTQ+ and I haven’t been able to let it go. This video helped a lot with the nerves and loneliness I felt over this situation. This is very helpful, thanks and God bless ☺️
@alexandre6881
@alexandre6881 2 жыл бұрын
I'll pray for you and your friends
@adriangeh6414
@adriangeh6414 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe this might help too? Its evidence that JC himself was gay. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYO9YWqkf7CGarc 💃
@jerrymcdonalds4010
@jerrymcdonalds4010 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriangeh6414 Did you watch the vdieo before running to the comments? I mean I know you're trolling but this video is such a twisting of scripture. what do you think you get out of mocking God?
@adriangeh6414
@adriangeh6414 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerrymcdonalds4010 come on, its practically 2022. So what if JC was gay? Lets not be so judgemental.
@jerrymcdonalds4010
@jerrymcdonalds4010 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriangeh6414 No it matters because its a lie because Christ was sinless. The year doesn't matter bro, Jesus was fully man and fully God. God never changes he's the same yesterday and today and tomorrow :)
@TheMikeboyz
@TheMikeboyz 2 жыл бұрын
Im in the military and it hard to express views like this without getting ridicule. But I still engage expressing the gospel in different ways within this career.
@petemiller2920
@petemiller2920 2 жыл бұрын
You think it’s appropriate to use time you’re being paid at work to practice your religion and evangelize?
@johnwaas4864
@johnwaas4864 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the military was conservative, no? Maybe under Biden there’s been “re-education”.
@TheMikeboyz
@TheMikeboyz 2 жыл бұрын
@@petemiller2920 actually in some way I do express my religion at work. My values from my religion do follow along what is offer in the military. And there are certain topics such as this one I'm cautious about approaching and let those that have the proper training handle these certain issues. There are people in position that do conduct this job.
@TheMikeboyz
@TheMikeboyz 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwaas4864 The military is constantly changing to adjust for the better regardless who is in seat.
@silaaron76
@silaaron76 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwaas4864 Maybe 50 years ago.
@jesus2639
@jesus2639 Жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the most difficult things you can talk to someone about. Just one misspoken word and they'll get angry.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Yeah making derogatory comments will do that.
@donovangordon1062
@donovangordon1062 7 ай бұрын
@Grokford That is not even close to what he's talking about and you know it.
@jimmyc.491
@jimmyc.491 Жыл бұрын
I once had a friend who was friendly, fun, and intelligent, but who also supported atheism and same-sex marriage. I couldn't understand how someone like her could think that way until I discovered one Father's Day that she had grown up with two dads. That gave me some insight into how we as Christians can sound to others when we talk about these subjects. Some disagree out of ignorance or unwillingness to listen, but some come from a completely different world. It's important to keep that in mind, I think.
@LongWalker730
@LongWalker730 11 ай бұрын
That doesn't change anything. It just means she needs Jesus more. Most LGBT people have suffered abuse as children. Her having two fathers means she is missing a big part of nurturing that only a mother can provide. She is confused.
@meooreos393
@meooreos393 2 жыл бұрын
My friend stopped being friends with me after she asked me if it I believed was a sin and I answered in the kindest way I could including saying that we are all sinners. She told me shes not mad at me but I just hurt her. Its so stressful sometimes.
@Frostorm777
@Frostorm777 Жыл бұрын
Looks like she couldn’t take the truth.
@sherbetstraw
@sherbetstraw Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry. I can empathise as I had anxiety over this issue as I have a friend who’s recently come out as gay. She hasn’t asked me my opinion so I’m not going to offer one unless asked as I just need to love her well. Sounds like with your situation you told the truth it in a loving way and that’s all you can do. Big hugs xx
@LongWalker730
@LongWalker730 11 ай бұрын
As Christians, it's easy to forget that people will hate you simply because you say the truth, no matter how nicely you put it. That's how you know Christianity is the truth. The LGBT don't care about Islam even though they kill gay people. Christians do not kill gay people, but they cut to the heart of the issue, which is more hurtful to them than murder.
@nini-kun3636
@nini-kun3636 27 күн бұрын
I’f I was your friend, I would cry and cut myself at that point :\
@SuperFanatic22731
@SuperFanatic22731 7 күн бұрын
??????? You shouldn't do that.​@@nini-kun3636
@GhostBearCommander
@GhostBearCommander 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever anyone calls you hateful for saying homosexuality is a sin, remind them that you love homosexual individuals as a Christian, but you agree with God that the lifestyle is sinful. Remember, disagreeing with someone's lifestyle or immoral choices is not the same as hating them. You can both love someone and not accept their lifestyle at the same time. It's like walking and chewing bubble gum. We can do both at once. Jesus does love all homosexual individuals. He died for them. That doesn't mean he doesn't require them to repent of their sins any different than the rest of us.
@kwesimanteaw8655
@kwesimanteaw8655 2 жыл бұрын
@Quint Dude take it from this perspective, if your son steals and you tell him it’s wrong does it mean you hate him? No, it means you just want the best for him
@soarenstevenson6050
@soarenstevenson6050 2 жыл бұрын
@Quint you won't get it until you seek God with all your heart, and he opens your eyes to the truth of the world. Please try it out, it will change your life
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
Being gay is not a choice, and harms no one. Believing that it's "sinful" is still just bigotry, no matter how you try to frame it.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwesimanteaw8655 Shit perspective.
@GhostBearCommander
@GhostBearCommander 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maksie0 The "gay gene" theory was originally proposed by Dr. Dean Hamar. It was originally accepted research without question because it fit the desired Social Engineering Narrative of the Progressive movement. The thing is, new research by various geneticists and others in the Scientific field have blown away the idea of being "born gay." One famous example is the Twin Studies in both Germany and the United States on the subject. In fact, if being born gay is down to genetics, an identical twin with homosexual leanings will always have a homosexual sibling. This is because they are genetically identical. However, according to the Twin Studies performed, twins with a gay sibling were far from being gay themselves. Indeed, they rarely were. This forced the Scientific community to quietly concede that no one is born gay, and the case was closed. However, since the Science didn't fit the Progressive community's narrative, they swept the matter under the rug and continued to lie, saying that people can be born gay. That is why you and others believe the lie to this day. Narrative over Fact. As for homosexuality "not hurting anyone," the incidence of AIDS virus, other STD's, suicidal tendencies, and depression are higher among homosexuals in America than almost any other adult group. You were saying?
@masonpyle5929
@masonpyle5929 2 жыл бұрын
I have two uncles in the LGBTQ+. Me and my family prays for them and their partners to come to know Jesus. It’s hard since telling them about Christ can result in losing contact with them.Sometimes I feel like whenever I bring this up as a prayer request to people at church they don’t take it seriously as I do. My uncle and Great Uncle are in need of prayer.
@jasonl.466
@jasonl.466 2 жыл бұрын
There's a book called Tactics by Greg Koukl , it has helped me talk about difficult situations. If you are interested on how to discuss issues like lgbtq, abortion, etc... I really recommend this book!
@augustpolca3484
@augustpolca3484 2 жыл бұрын
I think maybe just accept them. Or atleast reserve judgement.
@ILiketoSayYeehaw
@ILiketoSayYeehaw 2 жыл бұрын
If my family talked about me and "my problem" behind my back, anytime I wasn't there, I would also not want to contact them.
@merakisoul1629
@merakisoul1629 2 жыл бұрын
God has them both in your life for a reason, just keep praying and speaking the truth, have faith. John 14:13
@jayrocky9067
@jayrocky9067 2 жыл бұрын
My prayers are with them 🙏🏽..
@ChimeraFreak69
@ChimeraFreak69 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Christians understand how terrible this is I’m gay, I did not choose this. Why would I willingly choose risking being rejected by my family, friends, and coworkers? Why would I risk being kicked out of my parents’ house if I could just be straight? If I follow the advice I’m this video, I will be single and alone until the day I die. I have prayed for 16 years and I still have zero attraction to women, only men. I’m tired of being alone It’s not even about sex, I can’t even have a relationship, I can’t hold hands with someone I find attractive, I can’t even look at someone I’m attracted to. Why would anyone want this?
@THXx1138
@THXx1138 Жыл бұрын
When you recognize the sexual attraction to the same sex is a temptation it can help to get an objective perspective of it away from it being your identity.
@nathanieljohnson5908
@nathanieljohnson5908 Жыл бұрын
The fact that people are born gay should prove to people that God does not think it is a sin. Christians cannot give any logical reason besides the bible why it is a sin, and the problem with that is that the bible was written a LONG time ago by MEN, not God himself. Inspired? Yes. That doesn't mean that the bible is word for word God's word.
@John-fk2ky
@John-fk2ky Жыл бұрын
you’re completely ignorant of all things scientific, aren’t you, Mr. Johnson? There was a study of identical where at least one of them identified as gay. About half the time the other twin was straight. By definition, that means that there is no gay gene because the twins have the exact same DNA yet often had differing sexual preferences. Therefore, since there is no genetic component, it is physically impossible to be “born gay”. Also, it’s been recorded from self-reporting homosexuals that at roughly half of them were sexually abused by men as children. That seems like a much more logical correlation to look into than claiming “gay since birth” when the data doesn’t support such a claim.
@einarnunya7249
@einarnunya7249 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanieljohnson5908 There’s zero proof people are born gay. Please stop adding to the perpetual spread of this baseless claim.
@LaMarieOne
@LaMarieOne Жыл бұрын
@@nathanieljohnson5908 so just bc people are born gay doesn’t mean it’s not sinful. You may not be familiar with scripture, but it tells us that we were all “born in sin.” Sin is only really a choice after we are saved by Jesus, but before then, we are “slaves” to our “sinful nature.” In the same way some people are born with all kinds of temptations and behaviors, some people are also born gay or more attracted to the same sex. What the commenter posted is a harsh truth that most people won’t accept: the Bible calls us all to celibacy as Christians until marriage, no matter how we were born or what our sexuality is. This is a very difficult message for LGB people to receive since same sex marriages are unbiblical, and the logical conclusion is lifetime celibacy, but the way we are born just reaffirms the message of the gospel presented in the Bible. The gospel says that we were born in need of a savior because our natural inclinations are evil; thankfully our God loved us so much that he was willing to present his son Jesus as an eternal pathway for us to reconnect with Him and find our true identity in Him. This journey will come with many struggles and temptations, but God gives us strength to overcome. God bless
@mramirez5239
@mramirez5239 2 жыл бұрын
I'm putting another thought, that I just put in as a response to someone saying this video can help them talk to a family member of theirs who came out: Be careful of "helping" - don't be too enthusiastic to jump in and contradict what someone is feeling without asking some calm, genuine questions first such as: "When did you start to feel this way?" , "What does it mean to you, to identify as ___?" , "Do you remember anyone being influential in your decision to come out?" Remember to thank that person for sharing such personal things with you. Let it marinate and let them know you just want to hear them right now. Later, when TRUST is established, you tread lightly but truthfully in love into these Biblical areas. Trust is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE thing with this community!!! I can NOT emphasize that enough. The PAINS they know that straight people do not are almost indescribable but they are often nothing short of heartbreaking. EARN TRUST before you trying "coming to the rescue" (which is God's job, by the way-ours is sewing seeds and praying faithfully.) We need an 11-min video on the power of prayer!
@danapb
@danapb 2 жыл бұрын
I really can relate to what you've said here and can hear that you've been through this. A very dearly loved family member was deeply hurt recently by another family member. She was told that she was loved but that her actions could send her to hell. Of course she broke down and sobbed. It was so extremely painful for her and to hear/be witness to. What she heard is that she is not good enough. That she is NOT loved and that her actions are "lifestyle" choices. The person saying this was not cruel in delivery or meant to be hurtful at all, but this still deeply wounded her. I truly believe this: "which is God's job, by the way-ours is sewing seeds and praying faithfully" We need to live our lives as Christians and not be afraid to pray, show our faith. But we can't preach AT people and expect them to just accept it.
@epaminon6196
@epaminon6196 2 жыл бұрын
@@danapb Valid points. Nobody gets into heaven without Jesus' grace. If the omniscient, omnipotent and benevolent Trinity deems you worthy, you're in. If not, then maybe you shouldn't have worn a cotton shirt with five percent elastan in it.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
or just love them as God made them to be.
@sherbetstraw
@sherbetstraw Жыл бұрын
Wow - well worded and very wise thank you
@TedMattos
@TedMattos 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, Isaac. You bring up some very good points. If I might add something to your video. Before having the conversation, send a quick prayer to the Father's Spirit to give you the words you need to say and to help the person be receptive of the intent behind the words. In other words, include the Holy Spirit in the conversation. :)
@Praise___YaH
@Praise___YaH 2 жыл бұрын
HERE is Salvation HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH is Who Created “Man (Adam)” YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for the sins OF “Man” ** NO human female involved WHATSOEVER ** - Hebrew Book of Isaiah Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.
@kitkatjesusfreak2745
@kitkatjesusfreak2745 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree 👍
@mramirez5239
@mramirez5239 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that! Every time!
@wake4082
@wake4082 2 жыл бұрын
*The thing that gets me the most about pro LGBT+ Christians today is that I don't think the basis of their arguments are coming from the Bible but from society. The Bible clearly shows that God despises homosexuality but society is saying that "love is love". So it makes me wonder who these "christians" are following: God or Man?*
@bryanpayne3793
@bryanpayne3793 2 жыл бұрын
@@wake4082 lol man wrote the Bible so.......
@Blazingw0lf
@Blazingw0lf 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should more videos like this one. With your personal experience in street evangelism, you could help guide people who are interested/called to do the same. There are a lot of tough questions out there and not many know how to answer them. Sorta like a short series where you ask common objections or questions you've been asked (whether it be LGBTQ, apologetics, atheism, etc.), and you dive deeper in how to answer them while also sharing the gospel with them.
@talitameyer2581
@talitameyer2581 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Praise___YaH
@Praise___YaH 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, HERE is Salvation HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH is Who Created “Man (Adam)” YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for the sins OF “Man” ** NO human female involved WHATSOEVER ** - Hebrew Book of Isaiah Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.
@adriangeh6414
@adriangeh6414 2 жыл бұрын
You mean like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHLNqqKmls5-p68
@jerrymcdonalds4010
@jerrymcdonalds4010 2 жыл бұрын
@@Praise___YaH Twisting of scripture
@Praise___YaH
@Praise___YaH 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerrymcdonalds4010 Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.
@dilemma_unheard-of_dilemma1917
@dilemma_unheard-of_dilemma1917 2 жыл бұрын
I myself have same-gender attraction to other women. I enjoy listening to all perspectives because how else am I going to understand everyone unless I listen to everyone?
@angstyely7505
@angstyely7505 2 жыл бұрын
kind of wish they did that with us too instead of shoving what they believe to be truth down our throats. bless your heart ❤️
@soarenstevenson6050
@soarenstevenson6050 2 жыл бұрын
@@angstyely7505 it is the truth. thats the main perk and blessing of being a christian is that we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that its the truth because of divine intervention, and Gods grace and mercy, its truly a beautiful thing to be able to walk around this earth knowing exactly why we're here and what we ought to be doing, and not always up and down, confused as to what the purpose of life is. Read the bible please! it will change your life
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
@@soarenstevenson6050 You don't know, though. You believe. There's a difference.
@narid.legend8441
@narid.legend8441 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maksie0 It is the truth And I know it is. I myself and my family have experienced God ourselves way to many times to keep asking the questions if we believe He is real or if He is not. Nonetheless, it's understandable that there will be some who do not believe or understand that there is a loving and just God. The good thing is, is that there is still a chance for you to enter in a relationship with Him. I encourage you to heed this persons words and get yourself a Bible. It will indeed change your life greatly. And for the better
@aliciab92989
@aliciab92989 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know if you have any questions ok!
@claireramsey9273
@claireramsey9273 2 жыл бұрын
Really helpful! Thank you for touching on this. I often have trouble with these kinds of conversations whether that be my expectations being too high or feeling like I should stop talking because of fear of rejection. This was a good reminder that it’s all in Gods hands.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
thats because homophobia is a sin
@ancientmaster4474
@ancientmaster4474 2 жыл бұрын
I would say this is definitely the best way to explain things to the LGBT community, i’ve said those kind of things to many of my close friends and most of them respect my opinion on it. i used to be very hateful and judgmental towards the community but we have no right to judge, that’s God’s job. all we can do as christians is to clearly explain what God says, and why we believe it.
@lilchristuten7568
@lilchristuten7568 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the judgments that you are making. We are to judge, we are commanded to judge, we need to judge because if we don't then we won't recognize when we are wasting our time or not. We have to he able to judge if we are spending our time reaching out to people who are interested in hearing the word of God or if they have hardened hearts who don't want to hear His word. If the people's hearts are hardened then we waste time speaking to them, instead we should spend our time in prayer for them. The judgment that we are precluded from making is the judgment of whether or not someone is worthy of salvation and whether or not someone is worth our time simply from outward appearances. For example refusing to preach the gospel to people simply because you look at them and see that they are in sin(i.e. not preaching to a violent drunk because they are an alcoholic) or simply because they look like they don't like you or wouldn't listen to you, as it is quite possible that you are the only person who is available to pull them up out of the depths of their sin.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
the best way is to love them as God made them. LGBT
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@MarkedThat and as Christ never condemned LGBT seems Im more christ like...THAN YOU! Go figure. READ YOUR BIBLE!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@MarkedThat no answer eh
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@Princess but homophobics are NOT born that way, it was a choice you made..... so if you was born again you would stop being homophobic. Try again.
@FayeGwenn
@FayeGwenn 2 жыл бұрын
As a bisexual woman, it's been hard even explaining to my friends why I choose not to validate my desires toward women, as they think that I have internalised homophobia or that I'm living a miserable life because I am repressing my identity. Truth is, although it's really hard at times, it's just one of many decisions I make every day to align my life with God's will, and it is in my best interest. So if you're gay too, no matter where you are on your journey, know that you are not alone! It can be hard feeling isolated from both the LGBT and the Christian community, but it just means we need God's strength and courage even more to pull through.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with being bi or gay though, and it's truly sad that people have convinced you that you need to ignore that part of yourself. If being in a relationship with someone of the same gender doesn't harm anyone and makes you and your partner happy, why would anyone ever oppose that? There's just no rational argument against it. Only authoritative ones that essentially just boil down to "the rules say no, now stop asking questions".
@FayeGwenn
@FayeGwenn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maksie0 HI Maksie0! Nobody has convinced me of this. The people around me are very accepting of the LGBT community or queer themselves. My sexuality is not my identity nor is it an integral part of who I am. I understand your beliefs, I was an adamant atheist ever since I could talk and I used to think something similar, and if you want to live that way I totally support your right to do so. But the reality is the happiness it brings is worldly, and short-lived. The joy of God is eternal, and I believe he created man and woman a perfect duality, designed to compliment and uplift each other. So until you know God's word, there is no compelling reason I can give that will make you change your mind. In the meantime, live your best life, whatever that may be. Cya
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
"as they think that I have internalised homophobia" Well if you consider your attraction to women to be morally inferior to your attraction to men then they're right.
@likhakaku123
@likhakaku123 2 жыл бұрын
“Why you believe what you believe?” Wonderful question! Answering this question would be answering the most needed answer of a person on this earth!
@davidm4566
@davidm4566 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a teacher and challenge my students to figure out what they believe and why. They will encounter people of all different beliefs when they graduate and at the end if the day it doesn't matter what their parents or friends believe, they must know what they believe and why.
@likhakaku123
@likhakaku123 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidm4566 Absolutely true!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
yes I often wonder why homophobics believe the lies they follow.
@thejconstantine3081
@thejconstantine3081 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard, because on the one hand, word it lovingly, but on the other truth is love. Repentance is love. Jesus, Isaiah, Paul, James, John, all never minced words, they were clear and concise. I speak as someone who once was a part of LGBT
@Cavirex
@Cavirex 2 жыл бұрын
may I ask where you were on the spectrum and how you deal with your sexuality now?
@thejconstantine3081
@thejconstantine3081 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cavirex bisexual leaning gay. Guys were all I knew and much easier to please. I married a woman who decided to identify as a man, and then walked out on me due to issues on both sides. This got me alone with the Lord, to where He lovingly beat me down to build me back up. The fact is, just as homosexuality, transgenderism, etc. Is sin, doesn't mean being straight makes you holy. I had to be born again, that is, born in Christ, and then pick up my cross. I still am tempted by men, and sometimes women, I've learned, for the most part, there is no 100% deliverance (sorry pentecostals). We will still be tempted, but, by spending time with God and letting Him fill me, and surrounding myself with a group of men who accept me and guide me in biblical truth, there is a freedom far greater than any sexual relationship or any sexuality. But it takes work, daily, if not hourly, and I have to be in tune with God and His community or I will fall. It's not glamorous, but the true walk as a believer isn't glamorous in the eyes of the world.
@TheSpacePlaceYT
@TheSpacePlaceYT Жыл бұрын
@Princess Were you Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer or anything else? (Kinda sad I managed to memorize these due to frequency.
@JESUSSavesWAKEUP
@JESUSSavesWAKEUP 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a video I can send to my sisters and friends in the lgbtq community. A video that says something like “if you’ve received that video it’s because someone loves you and don’t know how to explain that subject with you... so here I am..”. I honestly have no idea where to start but I’d love to share a video like that!!
@crossconnector
@crossconnector 2 жыл бұрын
@Quint Paul while inspired by the Holy Spirit said it was wrong so it is wrong
@crossconnector
@crossconnector 2 жыл бұрын
@Quint as a Christian, religion is my real life and it always will be
@jerrymcdonalds4010
@jerrymcdonalds4010 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this video is what you need to share
@ggedits9533
@ggedits9533 2 жыл бұрын
@Quint you sure do like this channel huh😅
@mramirez5239
@mramirez5239 2 жыл бұрын
Just make sure they aren't hostile to the gospel before you do. If they are, sharing a video even like that will come across as trying to "shove Jesus down my throat" and it will do harm to the Lord's reputation *and* to your relationship, rather than help.
@Yakar-Yaoh.6651
@Yakar-Yaoh.6651 2 жыл бұрын
The Bible does lay out how we will be treated.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
so God help homophobics
@Yakar-Yaoh.6651
@Yakar-Yaoh.6651 Жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri: I don’t take you meaning, what do you mean by that comment?
@Yakar-Yaoh.6651
@Yakar-Yaoh.6651 Жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri: Are you a so called Christian Pastor?
@pastorbri
@pastorbri Жыл бұрын
@@Yakar-Yaoh.6651 why...are you even a so called christian person?????
@pastorbri
@pastorbri Жыл бұрын
@@Yakar-Yaoh.6651 it is simple, homophobia is a sin.
@mr.bigred6908
@mr.bigred6908 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely appreciate how you speak on difficult and challenging topics. 🙏🏼✝️
@clbailey7324
@clbailey7324 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently, you appreciate bigotry.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
and he is wrong
@mr.bigred6908
@mr.bigred6908 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri how did he speak incorrectly?
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.bigred6908 because homophobia is a sin
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.bigred6908 did u not know????
@talitameyer2581
@talitameyer2581 2 жыл бұрын
I find it hard preaching who Jesus is to my Muslim friend. Muslims have their idea of who Jesus is as a prophet and I’m not so sure how to talk about Christ then. I tend to feel uncomfortable if I bring up something about God that I believe. What should I do then?
@TheoHawk316
@TheoHawk316 2 жыл бұрын
"If you deny the Son, you deny the Father with Him." - Mike Winger. Point out verses in the new testament, obviously the quote isn't from the Bible, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it's true.
@KiRetteCouture
@KiRetteCouture 2 жыл бұрын
You can also pray for them. No one can 'convert' someone. It's God who reveals Himself to people.
@pietro4772
@pietro4772 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiRetteCouture That's right. Amen.
@LavleenJeena
@LavleenJeena 2 жыл бұрын
You could watch Sam Shemoun He's a bit harsh sometimes when someone Muslims blaspheme Jesus But his refutation of Islam is good I learned a lot from him
@pietro4772
@pietro4772 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheoHawk316 Amen. Matthew 10:32-33 (KJV) Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. (The Words of our Lord Jesus Christ)
@darianlee
@darianlee 2 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to explain this to a girl, but I did not know how to do it without shutting them out to the possibility of Christianity to them. Thanks for this video.
@petemiller2920
@petemiller2920 2 жыл бұрын
Tell her how the God you believe in, the God you love, used to command that people who had same-sex relations be put to DEATH. Just like ISIS.
@adriangeh6414
@adriangeh6414 2 жыл бұрын
@@petemiller2920 funny thing is, He himself was probably gay too. Seems he and noah had a thing... kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmfSnnmAnbClbNE
@GTRKT-qr5sf
@GTRKT-qr5sf 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriangeh6414 Lol. What? Absolute nonsense...
@adriangeh6414
@adriangeh6414 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTRKT-qr5sf oh what's the big deal, so what if He was gay? Lets not be so judgy...
@GTRKT-qr5sf
@GTRKT-qr5sf 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriangeh6414 Just because you decide to say he was gay, doesnt mean what you are saying isnt absolute nonsense. Sorry to break it to you, but the bible said he had a wife and children.
@christopherepperson6778
@christopherepperson6778 2 жыл бұрын
I’m gay but I’ve been convinced by different pastors that it’s a sin and not a sin. I have tried before to overcome by attractions but can’t. I am thinking about taking a vow of celibacy because I’d rather be faithful to God than to sin. Can someone please pray for me?
@lifeisunworthy5738
@lifeisunworthy5738 2 жыл бұрын
just pray to god and you must know who u are
@adenjones1802
@adenjones1802 2 жыл бұрын
I believe you have a moral obligation to find the person you love if they are out there and raise a family. An adoptive family if you are Gay. You don't have to believe being gay is a sin to be saved. But then again if you still feel the call of celibacy then may Christ guide you in that also. Ask the spirit.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
there is no sin in being LGBT, why do u listen to sinners who think they know better than you or God? If he made you gaay get on with it! Its how u were born to be.
@gracekotolo1112
@gracekotolo1112 2 жыл бұрын
Hii. Praying for you right now! I'm so proud of you! God bless. Just commit yourself to Him, He will help you. Sending love.🥰🥰
@sonnyboy8957
@sonnyboy8957 3 ай бұрын
Proverbs 16:18. Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.
@shattersoul9397
@shattersoul9397 2 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful, especially when it comes to the fact that some will, unfortunately, disagree and hate you for it. As someone who has several friends who are part of/support the LGBTQ+, I really don't want to come off as hateful nor disrespectful, for I genuinly do love and care for them. Although I still struggle with this fear, I do feel more equipped to tackle the issue. I pray for all who may be going through a similar experience that they may stay strong and faithful to be loving and gentle (as Christ has been towards us) when sharing the gospel, without sacrificing truth, and I humbly ask that you may do the same towards me. Nonetheless, may God bless you, Issac (and whomever accepts my prayer request), and I hope you have a wonderful day.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
You're not gonna be able to tell them you think their sexuality is somehow immoral without coming off as hateful, because it's just an inherently hateful thing to say. LGBTQ+ people face plenty of discrimination and abuse already, and they won't like getting it from someone they trusted.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
people hate the homophobic lifestyle and you seem shocked by people hating this sin. WHY?
@sarachavrice
@sarachavrice 2 жыл бұрын
THAT WAS SO WELL SAID!!! THANK YOU! ive made many mistakes trying to talk to my friends about this and it's not easy but thank you for this! 👏
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
you think this sin is done well....you do know homophobia is a sin right?
@brianquentonthorne7256
@brianquentonthorne7256 Жыл бұрын
The same way you tell your straight Christian friends that having sex before marriage will cause you to burn in hell for all eternity in terrible suffering pain and horror. The same way tell your straight Christian friends that even if the are married having blow jobs and eating pussy is sodomy and you will roast over a pit in hell fire 🔥 and cry in excruciating suffering as your skin fries like bacon until the end of time. Or you can mind your own damn business and stop masturbating in secret you hypocrite.
@chadbryant4849
@chadbryant4849 2 жыл бұрын
It's so hard to try and convince a friend that something that they contribute to and support is wrong. In high school I feel like I have a great opportunity to share the gospel with my peers. I often come here when a friend comes to me with a question. Thank you for this amazing take on a modern problem in society. God bless.
@shidfard
@shidfard 2 жыл бұрын
Easy, just show them evolutionary psychology papers.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
LGBTQ+ people aren't a "modern problem in society"
@shidfard
@shidfard 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maksie0 Yes, yes they are.
@chadbryant4849
@chadbryant4849 2 жыл бұрын
The people themselves are not the problem, but the idea of the LGBTQ+ is. We all have problems that are driving us away from God. We need help from our brothers and sisters to get closer to God. I hope that cleared up what I was trying to say.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
@@shidfard Low effort troll.
@oscardelgado8420
@oscardelgado8420 2 жыл бұрын
Not a encouraging story, but nevertheless a real one. I remember once when I was high off an edible(I am aware now that I was being a hypocrite), I talked to a friend of mine and trying to convincing her and others who were gay that they were in danger of hell, and If they continued that path it will surely lead them there. Although it was not a lie, I had nonetheless spoken without putting much thought into their understanding. This was when I was a lukewarm Christian and making my mind up to follow Christ, hence the cannabis edible. I had this zeal for God but no understanding so I didn’t know how to go about having conversations and would get to the point. Now that I made up my mind I am making up for the lack of understanding and reaching out and asking for forgiveness for offending others in a manner where I didn’t see my own faults. I still preach repentance but now I’m aware more how to go about it
@YeshuaIsTheTruth
@YeshuaIsTheTruth 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like wisdom.
@epaminon6196
@epaminon6196 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe focus on real sinners out there first. Not slavers, or cannibals, or pedophiles though since the Bible does not condemn them through a single word.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
uits homophobia that sends people to hell
@mollieboldt2696
@mollieboldt2696 2 жыл бұрын
Loving and truthfully said, on such a tender subject, our GOD loves us with all his heart .GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR MINISTRY. 🙏💯❤
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
but god haates sin and homophobia is a sin
@kendallfromsdorf3415
@kendallfromsdorf3415 Жыл бұрын
to see something as a sim is to see something as bad, if you see gay people as a sin…. it’s pretty self explanatory i hope you’re not eating seafood, pork, drinking alcohol, wearing mixed cloths, ripped jeans etc.
@GeroseisCooking
@GeroseisCooking Жыл бұрын
Levitical laws don’t apply to Christianity but yet again your don’t really want to do the research anyways
@bobbyb9718
@bobbyb9718 2 жыл бұрын
I have had a burden for this for a while now. I have family members and friends in this lifestyle and I have not found a way to share the truth yet, but like you said it is more loving to be truthful than to let someone believe that it is okay and let them go to Hell. You may find the Audacity movie by Living Waters compelling.
@cosminbryant1243
@cosminbryant1243 2 жыл бұрын
Hey friend same here you should sure to them that movie you mentioned and pray about it for the spirit to Guide you
@epaminon6196
@epaminon6196 2 жыл бұрын
I think there are worse sins in the world than consensually loving a fellow mature human being of the same sex that would get one a ride to hell. Maybe you should focus your attention on family members that are in more metaphysical trouble first?
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
I have family and friends in the homophobic lifestyle and we should pray for them.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@cosminbryant1243 I pray for homophobics
@tinahochstetler2189
@tinahochstetler2189 2 жыл бұрын
@@epaminon6196 The problem with looking for 'better sins' to commit instead of the 'worse sins' is that the wages of any sin is death. We all fall short and are in need of our Savior. Jesus died on the cross to pay the price for our sins. We only have to trust in Him, accept His salvation and repent of our sins. Do you know what sin is? Maybe you do. But a lot of people don't. So I hope you don't mind if I share the biblical definition. Sin is the breaking of Gods laws. Repentance is something that happens inside each of us. It's feeling true remorse for sin and truly wanting to turn away from that sin. We can't really repent of something that we don't believe is a sin.
@sonnyboy8957
@sonnyboy8957 3 ай бұрын
Romans 1:22. Professing themselves to be wise they became fools.
@mramirez5239
@mramirez5239 2 жыл бұрын
I love the emphasis on truth in love *with* *those* *willing* *to* *engage* out of *genuine* curiosity or whatever *honest* intent for having a rational conversation about this supper delicate issue (I'd advise not engaging with someone clearly hostile/looking for a fight, anyone looking to trap you with technicalities and twisted Scriptures, or clearly just anyone looking to make a joke out of every word you say; Christ says we will experience persecution but he never calls us to be an emotional martyrs.) I love the point on a new identity in Christ that is outside of a sexual identity bc this lie is king in this community: that you ARE your sexual identity and NOTHING is paramount to that. It's really something huge for Christians to understand, so we can have compassion on those where the enemy has gained this ground. I really like the point that this is not about whether or not God changes your orientation; that is a secondary issue that *with* *Biblical* *discipleship* , *down* *the* *road* , AFTER coming to to faith in Jesus will be worked on in each heart; some will find that God does change their sexual orientation where others do not experience this and may become celibate SSA (same sex attracted) Christians or other-oriented celibate Christians or it may look different than that but it will be a calling to a holy life, concerning their sexuality just like straight people are called to: THAT, though, is a note for Christians to keep in mind, NOT to spout out at an LGBTQ+ person! It's a point you can loose all ground you've gained bc the nuances that attach to it are very, deeply personal. I LOVE that you are "going there" but not as in challenging it, but trying to find how to BEST bring the LOVE of God and the BEAUTY of His gospel to this hurting, lost community of people *made* *in* *his* *image*. Thank you. Well done, Bro.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
maaybe just accept homophobia is a sin?
@FiciousCritik
@FiciousCritik 2 жыл бұрын
“If you die without having enemies, you have not lived right.” - Unknown
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
A sorry excuse for bad behavior.
@seekingtruth2463
@seekingtruth2463 2 жыл бұрын
I have fecal impaction and it’s hard to have a bowel movement; please pray for me brethren.
@quaestionescordis7715
@quaestionescordis7715 2 жыл бұрын
I had that a couple weeks, lay off the white bread, meats, cheese, try to make a smoothie out of spinach, carrots, and cucumbers, eat veggies , eat oatmeal, avoid sweet breads like donuts, etc because itll harden your feces, drink ALOT of water, but dont over do yourself. if it continues on for a week after this maybe go to the doctors, but avoid pushing hard on the toilet, itll affect you more after, if you cant pass anything, just continue on your day until you have the urge to go later on. Pray above all
@seekingtruth2463
@seekingtruth2463 2 жыл бұрын
@@quaestionescordis7715 thank you so much!!
@quaestionescordis7715
@quaestionescordis7715 2 жыл бұрын
@@seekingtruth2463 of course:)) take care
@jarjardaze2485
@jarjardaze2485 2 жыл бұрын
@@seekingtruth2463 how are you feeling bro
@seekingtruth2463
@seekingtruth2463 2 жыл бұрын
@@jarjardaze2485 healed !
@ameliamoore9704
@ameliamoore9704 2 жыл бұрын
I do have a few friends that are friendly and kind people but they’re unbelievers. I don’t think I’m completely silent, like I try and explain to them how personally Jesus has helped me and that I’m still their friend no matter what they believe, but Jesus is such a great thing. I honestly don’t even know the right words to say are and when to say it. I pray for them a lot. (Also, I am aware that it is not my job to save someone, but I know that God still calls us to spread the gospel and be a disciple, but only Jesus can save them.) Idk, I just feel sad for them and I pray for them a lot. What do I even do in this situation?
@petemiller2920
@petemiller2920 2 жыл бұрын
Why should your friends believe in your god when your Bible says he commanded that people like your friends be put to DEATH in OT times?
@jerrymcdonalds4010
@jerrymcdonalds4010 2 жыл бұрын
I have been and still am where you are. First thing I will say to you is never stop praying for them. Prayer is powerful! I don't know when God will change your friends hearts but know his timing is perfect. I have a big group of friends I've been praying for for a long time. Just recently I've begun to see them change. They came to youth group, have started doing bible study with me. Secondly if you aren't already read the bible. If you are read it more. Be intentional pray God reveals his message in it. I say this from personal experience of going from not reading it at all to often now and it has taught me what to say. also Think about this. How much do you love your friends? i'm sure a lot. don't let fear or worry of offending hinder you. Real love will compel you to share the gospel. As a christian make sure you are living a life the gospel describes that way the will want to know what you have that they are missing. God has big plans for your life and will use you in mighty ways if you let him! :)
@ameliamoore9704
@ameliamoore9704 2 жыл бұрын
Pete Miller God doesn’t want anyone in hell. That’s why he sent Jesus to live a sinless life and die for our sins. God gave us free will, because it wouldn’t be love to force everyone to love us, so he lets us have a choice to follow him or not. Rejecting Christ is a choice. God is a loving God, but he is also a just God. God loves his children and genuinely doesn’t want anyone in hell.
@ameliamoore9704
@ameliamoore9704 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I mean it wouldn’t be love for God to force everyone to love him. Autocorrect.
@petemiller2920
@petemiller2920 2 жыл бұрын
@@ameliamoore9704 God was so loving that he deemed same-sex relations sinful even though they hurt no one, and in the OT commanded EVERY such person be put to death without any further chance of repentance? But he didn’t want them in hell and loved them, huh? You expect me to believe such an absurd contradiction?
@fragrantdeco3579
@fragrantdeco3579 Жыл бұрын
Every point you said, replace the words “gay” with “interracial” and you might see why these views are thought of as bigoted. “We don’t hate interracial couples, we just think it’s sinful” Explanning the theological justifications for a belief does not make it less harmful.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Preach it.
@GeroseisCooking
@GeroseisCooking Жыл бұрын
Did you really just compared a interracial couples to same sex ones this is the biggest reach of the century
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@GeroseisCooking It's not a reach it's the exact same thing, it's a Loving consensual relationship that hurts no one but some consider it to be morally repugnant. Catch up, this comparison has been made for decades.
@ma.camilaagudelo6542
@ma.camilaagudelo6542 2 жыл бұрын
I certanly desagree. Our job isn't always to tell people they're living in a sinful way. Sometimes how we behave is a great opportunity to show them there's another way. The same way we were saved and changed our own sins.
@Kal-213
@Kal-213 Жыл бұрын
That's understandable. I've always thought it better to become good friends with them even if we have disagreements first. Of course, there is a chance that their lifestyle rubs off on you and drags you down, but I feel as if they are going to be more likely to listen to you if they know that you care about them. Yes, being a good example can definitely lead them to ask, "why are you different"? But not all the time. I would try to broach the subject of Jesus and how he saved us first, kind of give the whole gospel presentation. If they believe, or ask questions, then bring up this topic. If they don't believe, then there is not much point in telling them that they are sinful because they won't understand or will misinterpret what we say as hateful.
@Caaepp
@Caaepp 2 ай бұрын
Been praying about this! Thank you ❤
@terrenceevans8067
@terrenceevans8067 Жыл бұрын
Nobody is rejecting God we reject self-righteous christians who scream abomination at every gay person but overlook EVERY evil thing a christian does and only lovingly reach out when their the ones in need and BTW what about thou shalt not kill, steal, or covet thy neighbor's wife things that broken everyday but those people are worthy of forgiveness right? How about we hold EVERYBODY accountable for their actions and not gaslit people cause you trying to make a point
@sebastianrodriguez9884
@sebastianrodriguez9884 Жыл бұрын
No one's worthy of forgiveness friend, it doesn't matter if we're Christian, atheist, straight, or lgbtq, but God in His love offers it freely as a free gift through His Son Jesus Christ. When one is born again they're still not perfect but we are given power through the Holy Spirit to overcome sin and temptation even though we will still struggle, but yes many Christians are guilty of self-righteousness and don't even know it, but the point I'm trying to make is that we are still a work in progress and over time of walking with Christ He will begin to change our hearts and mold our hearts more and more in His likeness.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@sebastianrodriguez9884 That's nice, it doesn't change the fact that this entire conversation is based on a hypocritical premise.
@Minus1_music
@Minus1_music Жыл бұрын
Meh people who are LGBTQ, you do you. If you don’t like it and think it is a sin, ignore it! People should be who they are.
@michaelclark575
@michaelclark575 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoy listening to you, man. Delivery and presentation, basically the same thing I think Matter, cause it's easier to learn with it. Keep making vids, bro!
@amethystwolf3608
@amethystwolf3608 2 жыл бұрын
It's scary to admit but, I was queer before I knew Jesus so yall it's not impossible to reach the lgbt+ community. Trust Jesus, speak the truth.
@victoriabrownwell4301
@victoriabrownwell4301 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! That's the message.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you were told there's something wrong with who you are. That was wrong of them.
@lovelife2186
@lovelife2186 3 ай бұрын
Stop lying
@The_Other_Ghost
@The_Other_Ghost 9 ай бұрын
Next video: How to explain to your black friend that God told Moses how to buy and keep a slave for life. Didn't he also tell him that beating slaves was ok because they were "property"
@havealot2say
@havealot2say 2 жыл бұрын
I really need these to stop showing up on my time line. I am Gay! I am single! I am celibate! So is my being gay a sin? As a gay Christin the only good news for me is that I don't have to go hell. My time on this earth is about suffering, loneliness and constantly being told that my single, celibate lonely life style is a sin because I am not attracted to women. And because of this I struggle to see God and loving and caring God. I know the bible say who is clay to question the potter and so I accept that my cross to bear is to never experience what its like to be loved and to constantly be reminded that experience of committed loving relationships is reserved only for heterosexuals. But what is heart breaking is to get bombarded with messages from heterosexual Christians "telling me the truth in love" when there is no love for me in their heart! Truly telling the truth in love is to say hey I understand that as heterosexual Christian, I will never be defined solely by who I am attracted to, the state of heterosexuality is not sin but as a gay Christian, you will always be defined by who you are attracted to because single and celibate or not the state of Homosexuality is sin. Tell the real truth in love requires heterosexual Christians to understand the while LGBTQ Christians are denied the hope of ever having romantic love and always being alone. Heterosexual Christians are not required to make that same sacrifice. It's understanding that for the LGBTQ Christian the good news is we don't have to burn in hell and our rewards in heaven but our time on this is not about joy and happiness it's about sacrifice and suffering. So. please stop saying we are to love the sinner and hate the sin! First of we are all sinners saved by grace so how is that even possible! Secondly, stop pretending to love me! If you really loved me you would have more grace for the daily struggle and sacrifice I am required to make and provide more encouragement, understanding and support of the struggles LGBTQ people make for our salvation. Imagine living with out the hope of ever being loved, having a family or someone to share your life with? I was not called to be single and celibate. I was forced to in order to be worthy of Jesus sacrifice! Please have a little more understanding around the fact that the LGBTQ persons are the only group that are not saved by faith alone and must deny our flesh and be celibate before we can be acceptable to God. And please stop reducing all LGBTQ people to sex! If God is no respecter of persons why is that single, celibate heterosexual Christian is acceptable to God. But I a single, celibate gay Christian must repent before I can be saved? Like what am I repenting for? I have prayed for over 30 years for God to make heterosexual and you know what He, hasn't! However, He has given me the strength to accept my constant loneliness and feelings or hurt and suffering. I grieve for that loss of hope on almost a daily basis but God gives the the strength to cope with my suffering. Instead, I keep my hope focused on the day he calls me home and my suffering on this earth has ended. The bile says (Matthew 7:3-5) 3“Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4“Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5“You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. I take this to mean you can't help some through what you have never gone through! Unless, God gives you the grace to do so. These messages about telling LGBTQ people that is a sin are not about giving a loving message of correction it's about an agenda to be right! A message of love is understanding that you are asking me to sacrifice something you will never be required to give up and giving me biblical counseling ,spiritual encourage and praying with me to keep me encouraged to know that God loves me even though I don't feel it and don't understanding why He created me to live with this loss of hope and suffering. I apologize is this not grammatically correct or if I have forgotten a word or two. This was hard to express and emotionally I can't go back and edit at this time
@reedplaysgames
@reedplaysgames 2 жыл бұрын
Really moving comment. I am straight, and practically no one here can relate to this struggle, including myself, however I do respect the immense strength required to remain celibate. The state of being gay is not a sin, and neither is your celibate lifestyle. In fact, the willpower and spirit you have is something we all seek. Denying sin in such a manner is exceptional and a terrible cross to bear. Acting upon the desires of your flesh to engage in homosexual activity is no better or worse than any other sin we could commit, like coveting, lying, idolatry, etc.; the punishment for all of these is death. But like the rest of us, you are saved through grace. I can’t imagine what it’s like to always hear that you get a one-way ticket to Hell for engaging in any sort of homosexual activity. Do not let yourself be defined solely by who you are attracted to, rather, be defined by your actions. The lifestyle associated with homosexuality is often one of constant and perpetual sin and lust; the fact that you have turned away from these sinful acts simply means that you are fighting your own battle against temptation, as are we all, and you are emerging victorious. However if the tide of battle turns against you, do not worry, because God has forgiven all of us. The “truth in love” is an uncomfortable one, and requires man to either fall in love with a woman, or remain celibate. But aside from romantic love, there is also Christ’s love poured out for all of us, and we must emulate that to the best of our ability by loving and respecting everyone, including these within the LGBTQ population. You say how your time on earth is constant suffering and loneliness, and that you live in anticipation of the day when you will receive your heavenly reward, and every tear will be wiped away. That is no motive for something so drastic as celibacy and lifelong loneliness. As I mentioned before, your celibacy has no bearing on your eternal reward; you will receive it so long as you are faithful. With your loneliness you are basically going the extra mile to serve God and deny the desires of the flesh. God calls upon us to resist temptation and to serve him, and you have answered that call. What greater motive do you need? If you only stay single as a means to the end of eternal reward, you serve God for the wrong reasons. Whatever you choose, serving God or sinning against Him, remember Jesus has already bore your cross so that you may be saved either way. That is one of the perks of being Christian: no matter what your demons are, you know there is at least one man who has battled them - and won. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this obnoxiously long comment, and God bless you.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
@SAPPHIRE You won't go to hell either way, because it doesn't exist.
@funtlickerシ
@funtlickerシ Жыл бұрын
@@Maksie0 it does it is a place of suffer and burning. God made hell for satan and his demons ot for us. but because we are born into sin and we arent perfectr there was a 100% chance goin to hell, God knew this so he sent his only son to earth to die on the cross and defeat death.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
"I am Gay! I am single! I am celibate! So is my being gay a sin?" Even if being in a Queer relationship were a sin, wanting to wouldn't be, wanting to sin and sinning are two entirely different things. Jesus was perfect and Jesus was also tempted, and it's hardly temptation if you don't want to do it. "My time on this earth is about suffering, loneliness and constantly being told that my single, celibate lonely life style is a sin because I am not attracted to women." I'm sorry to hear that, but this is wrong, Jesus never married a woman either, celibacy should be entirely uncontroversial. Though I also believe that being in a Queer relationship is also perfectly acceptable. "And because of this I struggle to see God and loving and caring God. I know the bible say who is clay to question the potter and so I accept that my cross to bear" Are you questioning God, or are you questioning what you've been told by people? Those are two very different things and anyone who says otherwise is probably up to something nefarious. "and to constantly be reminded that experience of committed loving relationships is reserved only for heterosexuals." This is what I mean; scripture never says this or anything of the sort. "...is to get bombarded with messages from heterosexual Christians "telling me the truth in love" when there is no love for me in their heart! " Tell me about it, all the more reason to be suspicious of what they're saying. "It's understanding that for the LGBTQ Christian the good news is we don't have to burn in hell and our rewards in heaven" Salvation is not dependant on meeting a certain standard of behavior, whether that be in sexuality or anything else. If we have to be "good enough" to get or keep our salvation then none of us are saved. "I was not called to be single and celibate. I was forced to in order to be worthy of Jesus sacrifice!" This is tragic hon' I don't mean to sound clinical here, but this to me sounds exactly like someone livign under the thumb of human inventions. You can't be worth of Jesus' sacrifice and neither can any heterosexual. If any of us had been worthy there would have been no need for a sacrifice in the first place. And this narrative that you're repeating is actually in contrast with actual scripture "But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." 1 Corinthians 7:9 Forcing yourself into celibacy is not what scripture says you should be doing, and from my reading of scripture it seems to imply that doing it is harmful to you. "Please have a little more understanding around the fact that the LGBTQ persons are the only group that are not saved by faith alone" Whoever told you this lie? Queer people are not some scum in the bottom of the barrel of humanity, anyone who makes this argument is operating from personal bias, not scriptural truth and certainly not Love. "And please stop reducing all LGBTQ people to sex!" Say it louder for the people in the back. .... Darling, I'm so sorry for the state you're in, I hope that you get to live your life the way you want to, but I'd be lying if I said that I didn't think that you'd be best off if you came to Love and accept the way that God made you. Love is listed as a fruit of the spirit, and scripture explicitly states "against such things there is no law" (Galatians 5:22-23). This is not a perversion or a flaw, God is Love(1 John 4:8) and Love of God and Others encompass all of the commands of scripture(Matthew 22:36-40). And I regret so much that people ever made you feel like you were lesser because you were doing the same thing in a way that they didn't understand. xx
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@reedplaysgames "The lifestyle associated with homosexuality is often one of constant and perpetual sin and lust;" Sir, I can appreciate that you're more nuanced than some but I get the impression that you've missed something here. "asociated with" is exactly correct, associated with, not correlated with. What out of touch people in a moral panic imagine Queer people to be like is very rarely the case, and even on occasions where it is reality the truth is not nearly so concerning. "The “truth in love” is an uncomfortable one, and requires man to either fall in love with a woman, or remain celibate." Scripture never says this or makes any of the implications you're making here.
@TimoneIthy
@TimoneIthy 2 жыл бұрын
I am a gay Christian, and i really respect your point of view. But i honestly do have to disagree with some of the points that you made. And not just talking about homosexuality is a sin. I definitely don’t believe it’s a sin but that’s not the main point. I feel there were Several generalizations of the LGBTQ plus community and gay people. But other than that i love to hear people’s Views on the Bible and scripture even if I disagreed.
@scouthart3062
@scouthart3062 2 жыл бұрын
Can I ask why you don't think it's a sin? My dad was set free from homosexuality and I was set free from homosexual lust as well. I didn't think it was a sin at first and I've been called it thousands of times even before I knew what it meant or even had lustful feelings in that regard. Jesus wants you to put him first above all other things. God bless you with clarity
@TimoneIthy
@TimoneIthy 2 жыл бұрын
@@scouthart3062 thank you for this reply. I am happy to hear that you and your father are both walking with the lord. If that is how you best can follow god then so be it. If someone doesn’t want to be gay and I think it is totally OK for them to try to change that. But most the verses people used to condemn homosexuality are talking about rape. And the other versus the talk about the homosexual enter the kingdom of God or mention that lay with me and the words used in the original Hebrew script do not translate to homosexual or anything that means that. In fact if you take in consideration the context of the scripture and the time That it was written. Also understanding the common words that were used for homosexual back in that time. The words in the Bible or not common words for homosexual back in that time period. In fact the words he used in the Bible are more closely connected with the words to condemn pedophilia back in those times. Also in ancient English Bibles there was no word homosexual. They use the original Hebrew meaning for the word which was pedophilia. But due to the sinful nature of man they changed it to mean homosexual. Thank you for being so kind as well!
@scouthart3062
@scouthart3062 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimoneIthy I do believe different but have struggled with keeping that belief. I do know about the translational things you speak of and I really don't like to use this verse to prove that the Bible does speak against homosexuality but it did clear things up for me. Leviticus 20:13 does not refer to a pedophilic homosexuality because it speaks about man being at fault for the sexual action not in reference to unconsenting sex on behalf of one person being raped. And in Romans it speaks avakin consenting homosexual sex. I literally cried over some of this before but when I gave myself to serve the Lord only and not serve anything else including any type of sin I became free. I hope you find that freedom as well in Christ Jesus. I pray for you cuz I've been there and I just feel convicted to ask if you find out homosexuality is a sin can you still love God and serve him Above All Else? If the answer is that you can't then as I had to do you need to reevaluate. I pray over you that through this journey that the Lord bless you and keep you that the Lord make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you that the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace in the name of Jesus that he would give you the strength you need to give him all of you and to serve him alone. I hope you know that God loves you so much which is why he sent down his son for you and that I love you and that I've been where you're at as has my dad. I speak Deliverance over your life in the name of Jesus that any plan of the enemy shall not Prevail against you and that despite him being the author of confusion you shall see the way the truth and the life. I feel this word that God wants me to speak. Jesus saying do you love me and then Peter says yes Lord you know I love you and Jesus responds feed my sheep. We feed his sheep the word of God before we feed ourselves worldly things otherwise we are showing that we put those worldly things above God in our life. But heaven will be more glad for the one sinner that repents (which involves turning away from the thing to Christ) than the 99 righteous. Jesus loves you and cares about you and the only reason this is even a command in the first place is out of his love for you. God bless I hope you're not offended and truly again I say I hope you know that Jesus loves you and your brothers and sisters in Christ love you for if I didn't love you I wouldn't tell you the truth. God bless and be with you amen
@scouthart3062
@scouthart3062 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimoneIthy I know I did what God called me to do and said what he called me to say but I hope you can forgive me not because I did something wrong but because this will probably hurt you deeply right now as it hurt me when I read the scriptures and found the truth out for myself.
@TimoneIthy
@TimoneIthy 2 жыл бұрын
@@scouthart3062 thank you for this it was honestly really sweet. I don’t want to come off as ungrateful or anything But my dad is a pastor I’ve heard all this before. Can you be quite honest I have not met one Christian show the love of Christ the way they’re supposed to. I honestly don’t believe it’s a sin, and even if it is it’s the least of the Christians problems. But thank you for being so kind :)
@sarbnitrof4663
@sarbnitrof4663 Жыл бұрын
What if you just kept your opinion on the sexuality of other people to yourself? If you choose to inform other people that they're living wrong because of their desire to sleep with people who have the same parts, how is that not overreaching? Live and let live, no one is forcing you to sleep with them.
@ilikeguitar3672
@ilikeguitar3672 Жыл бұрын
This is what I’m thinking of! If you rlly care too much what 2 consenting ppl want to do even tho they’re not hurting anybody, you just seem obsessive and weird. Idrc what your religion says, keep it to yourself bc going into ppl’s personal business is just so weird.
@van-os5hs
@van-os5hs Жыл бұрын
As Christians, we are called to preach the gospel to others so they can come to Jesus, can be made anew and be saved, and to then join God in eternal life in heaven. If a Christian said they didn’t care what happened to others and let them be, they’re not really christian.. It’s not loving to stay silent when you know they could face eternal suffering for doing things they don’t know is a sin. It’s hard to explain this without seeming like a bigot or wtv, but it’s the truth, harsh but it’s our truth.
@coffeebux
@coffeebux 7 күн бұрын
LGBTQ person: wow I wonder what it would feel like to be persecuted. @1:43 @2:32 seem like that is the entire goal. You want to be accepted and liked by other Christians. To get a pat on the back for spreading the gospel. @3:55 we are supposed to hate what God hates:: God hates sin:: being gay is a sin. How do you think people were going to interpret that?
@final_oreo616
@final_oreo616 2 жыл бұрын
I know someone who tried to convince me that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality. He tried to say that in English translations of the Bible, it adds condemnation towards gay people. I was very interested because he claimed that it said that in the Old Testament, which is the last place I'd think of. He claimed to have translated the Bible from its original Hebrew and Greek to modern English (which is practically impossible). I asked if he translated the whole bible and read the whole thing and he said no. I was like, "there is your problem." People get so caught up in trying to be right that they don't even stop to think about the possibility of them being wrong.
@westernwizard13
@westernwizard13 2 жыл бұрын
"People get so caught up in trying to be right that they don't even stop to think about the possibility of them being wrong." Religion in a nutshell lol
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
he was right. The word homosexual is also added to Gods word to help the homophobic community in their hate.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@westernwizard13 proof homophobia is a sin
@theemissary1433
@theemissary1433 Жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri Then what of Romans 1:26-27? It has no word "homosexuality" in it yet God still condemns it as a sin
@pastorbri
@pastorbri Жыл бұрын
@@theemissary1433 Wrong as always.....read the whole chapter and not bits out of context and then you see the full story here, Go on try, I know homophobics can't but try as then you would know this was paul condemning the heterosexuals he knew who used same sex acts in idolotry cults which was unatural for heterosexuals so God gave them over to a reprabate mind, so this verse also doesn't help you and also does not address homosexuality....sorry.....maybe u need to repent...?
@BigYosh
@BigYosh 2 жыл бұрын
I wrote a comment talking about it but it got deleted, thanks KZbin 🙂
@estebanmaldonado4410
@estebanmaldonado4410 2 жыл бұрын
It was no doubt reported as “hate speech” by people. It’ll happen.
@ythatesfacts
@ythatesfacts 2 жыл бұрын
I got into this paranoia of copying and pasting and the refreshing
@PatrickMenesesYTOfficial4945
@PatrickMenesesYTOfficial4945 2 жыл бұрын
Blame the keyboard warriors and their SJW cult.
@yasiem6245
@yasiem6245 2 жыл бұрын
@@estebanmaldonado4410 yep, there's a bunch of pansies crying about "muh feelings got by this video" in the comments section. They're sad but laughable at the same time.
@samueld.spoonhour4169
@samueld.spoonhour4169 Жыл бұрын
Talking to and one in the LGBTQIA+ community is difficult, because they believe that their sin is ok, and they have convinced themselves of these things. But you are so right in that the most loving thing we can do is tell the truth. We can always say it in a mean way, but telling the truth in love is a command for us Christians. God bless you, Isaac. I thank God for your Biblical videos.
@nathanieljohnson5908
@nathanieljohnson5908 Жыл бұрын
The "I" stands for Intersex which is a medical condition people are born with. so no sin there. Being either LGB is not a sin. In order to sin you have to make a choice or an action and that choice or action itself is a sin. LGB can't be a sin because it's not a choice. People are born that way. I'll use this example. Say you have someone who is gay, and they have known since basically they can remember. They grow up. They PHYSICALLY cannot feel any romantic or sexual attraction towards women whatsoever. But they can with other men. Why is this? It's a feel that they genuinely can't control. So saying that being gay itself is a sin means that God created an abomination, someone who is only meant to suffer in life, basically living in hell on Earth only to be sent to hell after. That means they're sinning simply for something they can't control and were born with. I truly believe that God creates people like that for a reason. God considers everything. And that's why I believe it isn't actually a sin, and Christians just misinterpreted that word of God.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 Жыл бұрын
But you don't have the truth.
@AlejandroJMA
@AlejandroJMA Жыл бұрын
@@Maksie0 Neither do you. So what should we do?
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 Жыл бұрын
@@AlejandroJMA Let LGBTQ+ people live their lives in peace?
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
"because they believe that their sin is ok" Because it's not a sin. "they have convinced themselves of these things" just like you have convinced yourself. It's not truth, it's just your subjective opinion.
@trop1cal_blossom232
@trop1cal_blossom232 Жыл бұрын
The fact that this even exists and being told is insane your ruining lives and relationships
@thatdudekyle4509
@thatdudekyle4509 Жыл бұрын
Real love would admit when it can’t relate to another person’s personal experience, because you don’t have their experience of BEING homosexual, and refrain from telling them what you think is better for their life that you have no experience in. That’s what real love would do. Real love would not compare someone’s loving sexual relationships to “porn”. You wouldn’t compare your own loving sexual relationship with your partner to porn, would you? I wish you would consider how you sound to your LGBTQ+ audience
@CAHiredGun
@CAHiredGun Жыл бұрын
You are telling Christians to sacrifice an objective reality for subjectivity. An impossible demand.
@rutha1464
@rutha1464 Ай бұрын
It is NOT love to condemn others. For too long, "Christian" leaders have taught us it is. In fact, unless you are 100% sinless in terms of sexual sins, it is a sin to condemn others (Matthew 7:1-3.) If being gay is wrong for you, then just don't become one. It's just that simple. I have never heard anyone here post a video condemning cigarette smoking or obese people which also could be considered sinful to our temple. But good, gentle people who are just trying to get by in life are fair targets for some sections of "Christianity."
@jasonrodgers880
@jasonrodgers880 Жыл бұрын
Two problems we face: 1- all too often, there have been “Christians” who have been absolutely hateful in their exclamations of disgust regarding others’ sinfulness while at the same time being hypocritically even more sinful themselves. 2- no matter whether you’re answering in the perfect way, this is a battle of political advertising. It’s decided ahead of time that if you can be called an “-ist” or a “-phobe”, then that trumps anything you say. Take heart, brothers and sisters, continue to love and trust. Faith and the Truth will be the source of ultimate freedom.
@K2tami
@K2tami 2 жыл бұрын
I would also like to add on about free will and how God loved us so much he gave us free will when explaining about Adam and Eve sinning and also that we don’t hate the sinner we hate the sin and that doesn’t just include lgbt but it could also drugs alcohol etc like I had friends who did that but did that make me hate them? No same thing with the lgbt community to really show that we aren’t singling out lgbt people.
@FOHguy
@FOHguy 20 күн бұрын
Do a video titled, "How to leave other people alone and let them live their lives."
@thewaterbearbug
@thewaterbearbug Жыл бұрын
Maybe just love people and try not to proselytize them, then maybe they would take people like you seriously. The excuse of “hate the sin love the sinner” has been a dog whistle to those who restrict the equal treatment of lgbt people, and it shows a major flaw in those who just want you to be Christina instead of being a shoulder to lean on.
@faithfulwhispers333
@faithfulwhispers333 2 жыл бұрын
Bless you brothers and sister 🙏💜
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
but not their sin of homophobia
@RevBomb600
@RevBomb600 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a tiktok that really confused me. It was a female saying she was called be a pastor and she talks to the holy spirit everyday, but her church wont alllow her to preach because shes a lesbian. I was like......ummmm.....right
@adenjones1802
@adenjones1802 2 жыл бұрын
In what way did this confuse you? Are you saying gay people cant have the holy spirit?
@RevBomb600
@RevBomb600 2 жыл бұрын
@@adenjones1802 pretty much....if you are in tune with the holy spirit, you wouldn't be actively boasting about living in sin
@adenjones1802
@adenjones1802 2 жыл бұрын
​@@RevBomb600 First, Being a lesbian does not mean that you are having lesbian sex. Being lesbians is not a sin even by conservative bible standards. We are all sinners yet we still have the spirit. Paul was a sinner just like this woman yet he had the spirit and was a teacher. Second, was she really boasting or was she just saying she was a lesbian? Thirdly, just a seemingly off topic question is being a magician a sin?
@RevBomb600
@RevBomb600 2 жыл бұрын
@@adenjones1802 so she can be in a lesbian relationship but have normal heterosexual sex with a man? Thats adultry if she is having sex with someone she isnt married to...marriage, by conservative standards as well as biblical standards, is between a man and a woman. That is how God created it. God would rather you not be in a relationship at all than to be in a relationship that causes you to sin. Also, what does being a magician have to do with anything? Do you mean someone who practices dark arts and worships satan and participates in witchcraft? Or do you mean the western idea of a magician, also called "Illusionists" since there is no actual dark art. Its all trickery. What are getting at? Saying that a gay person deserves to be in the podium telling everyone how to be more christian like is the same as having an alcoholic or drug addict wanting to be on stage...yes we all live in sin, but the goal is to be more Christ like every day. The problem is that people who live a gay lifestyle dont beleive they are doing anything wrong. Thats fine to think that way, but just know that you will be turned away just as any alcoholic/drug addict would.
@Sovofdawn
@Sovofdawn 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Lesbian here. I actually really enjoyed this video. Might be a little weird to say that, but I genuinely liked this. Often times, people are just portrayed as saying "GAY BAD" when in reality it's people expressing their own beliefs. The alphabet mafia often paint people like this to be evil and a bigot, but really, it's nothing like that. More voices like yours need to be heard.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
It's sad to see gay people defending homophobia.
@Ace-jd2ty
@Ace-jd2ty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maksie0 yea it really is sad
@brianfisher5525
@brianfisher5525 Жыл бұрын
If your faith requires others to change everything they are to fit into your limited worldview, it's quite reasonable for them to see your philosophy as bigoted and hateful.
@Houseofcharch
@Houseofcharch 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I work for a crown corporation under the Canadian federal government and have had to take three mandatory ‘diversity and inclusion’ workshops. These workshops essentially suggest that we need embrace acceptance of LBGT views and provide a welcoming environment that accommodates them. I’m one of the few employees that refuses to list pronouns under my email signature. You can’t ask me to suspend my beliefs just to make others feel comfortable or accepted when I believe the very notion of it is wrong. I really want to share my thoughts on my company’s public bulletin board but have been hesitant considering the amount of backlash I’ll likely get for it. I know I would be branded a bigot and it could hurt my future career opportunities. Do I wimp out and post it anonymously? This video has given me a lot of great ideas as to how I could frame my approach and make sure that people understand I’m coming from a place of love. Thank you for reminding us what it means to stand up for God and be fearless in the face of persecution. God made us in his image and doesn’t make mistakes.
@Houseofcharch
@Houseofcharch 2 жыл бұрын
@Joe Distefano Hey Joe. There tends to be a bit of shaming in the workshops I’ve attended towards anyone who doesn’t openly accept transgender views. The overall theme is that we’re missing the mark if we’re not celebrating and embracing our transgender/non-binary people. It feels as though we aren’t being given a choice as to whether we even believe in or agree with non-binary/transgender views. We’re being encouraged to create a comfortable space for them (I.e. using preferred pronouns in our email signatures) in an effort to be more accepting. I’m all for diversity and inclusion but I can’t participate in something that I fundamentally believe is wrong and is against God’s will. I know this sounds controversial, but I think if someone claims that they were born in the wrong body, they’re essentially suggesting that God made a mistake. I refuse to believe that. I can’t suspend my basic beliefs about biology and support a movement that I disagree with. I get that my company wants to appear progressive but they need to consider that there are people with differing views. All I’m saying is that we need to be given a choice, and an opportunity for our beliefs to be heard on an equal basis as the LGBTQ’s. I think it’s sad that Christianity/religious beliefs are taboo subjects in the workplace and yet companies encourage discussions about LGBTQ beliefs.
@dirksvenson3486
@dirksvenson3486 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephanie. I’m a pastor who holds the same views of sexuality as you. May I gently suggest you may be approaching this the wrong way and their may be a better approach? You’re operating from a framework that is prioritizing your own rights to free speech. The emphasis is on you wanting to speak your mind and not be silenced. I get it, I really do… but I also deeply believe that our focus as given to us in scripture needs to be on introducing lost souls to Jesus, and then allowing the power of the Holy Spirit to convict them of sin and to repentance. Remember the words of Christ when he was speaking to the oppressed Jews living under Roman rule. He didn’t say demand your rights or stand up for yourself. He actually said, If your enemy asks you to go a mile carrying a load for him, walk 2 miles with him instead! The Paradigm that Jesus and the NT writers give us is that as exiles in a world full of enemies, as citizens of the Kingdom of Heaven, by loving our enemies we flip the script on them and show them a better way. Now there are many people we may consider “ideological enemies”. Many try to teach we need to be culture warriors. I would suggest Jesus gives us a gentler path. Instead of posting your objections to the sensitivity training on a bulletin board, which could very well push people away, focus on praying for your coworkers who don’t know Christ. Focus on befriending coworkers the Lord puts on your heart. And then, as he leads, focus on telling them about Jesus. I have many friends in the LGBTQ community. They know I am a pastor, and also that I believe theologically that any sexual expression outside a male / female marriage is sin. But they still talk to me, trust me, and even ask me spiritual questions about Jesus and sin and repentance. I’ve been used to lead some to repentance. The way I got these relationships was trying to emulate Jesus. He did not focus on declaring his views on particular sins, but befriending sinners and in the process revealing to them God’s heart on sin and forgiveness and redemption. In short, focus on people first and then the door is open for the Lord to use you to share your stance. Sometimes we get it mixed up and put the cart before the horse. I hope this is helpful. Take it or leave it!
@dirksvenson3486
@dirksvenson3486 2 жыл бұрын
@@Houseofcharch here’s another thought on the whole “refusing to address people by their preferred pronouns” thing. I believe as Christians we are called to a higher standard. Non Christians don’t have what we have… they are currently stuck in their sin, and so they are going to sin. I don’t think that should surprise us. Consider this: let’s say there’s a straight couple but they are living in sin. They aren’t married. They are sleeping together. They insist they are in love. I could say to them “I refuse to acknowledge you are in love, because it isn’t true love, it’s just lust. If you truly loved one another you’d stop sinning and get married. I refuse to go along with this charade because it goes against my Deep set religious beliefs!!” Or, I could be gentle and just try to be kind to them. I could befriend them, lead them to Jesus, and then work together with the Holy Spirit to help them see they are in sin and need to turn to the Lord and follow his ways. The LGBTQ issues are so taboo and sometimes I feel as Christians we just add fuel to the fire and make a bigger deal than we need to. I can call someone by their preferred pronoun and it does no damage to me. I’m showing them a kindness. Many of these people have views that Christians hate them and just want to shove “the truth” down their throats. But in my experience this just pushes them away. So a gentle approach is to just call them whatever they want to be called. That’s “walking with your ideological enemy” the extra mile. You know who they truly are. They are just confused and lost in sin. So walking with them through that cost us nothing. We can walk with them, point them to Jesus, and believe that he can show them the truth about themselves and lead them to repentance. And us showing gentleness opens the door for them to trust us enough to eventually hear the truth from us. Scripture tells us it’s the Lord’s kindness that leads to repentance.
@dirksvenson3486
@dirksvenson3486 2 жыл бұрын
@@Houseofcharch last thing… I don’t think Christian beliefs will ever have an equal place in society as secular ideologies. But that’s how it’s always been for Christianity. We are an underground movement of the Kingdom of God. It was radical in the early days too! Christians declared Jesus is Lord, Ceasar is not. That would get you sent to the Lions. The Bible says the Gospel is offensive and foolishness to those who don’t believe. We will never ever ever be accepted by mainstream society. So that should never be our goal. Rather the goal must be to work undercover in a fallen world, winning as many to Jesus as we possibly can. Our mindset must be “I am a missionary”. As a missionary, we must be good students of our culture. We learn and speak their language, instead of trying to force them to speak ours. We win their trust. And when the time is right, we open the door to Jesus. Scripture tells us many will reject this way of Jesus, but a small few will accept it and enter into the kingdom. That’s why we do what we do! For the few who will believe.
@saigie3908
@saigie3908 2 жыл бұрын
Imo I could care less about writing my pronouns cause that’s a thing that’s been going on since the beginning of time. But when it comes to ppl trying to make me conform to worldly things by denying God’s natural creation, that’s where I draw the line.
@Lilly-hp7th
@Lilly-hp7th 2 жыл бұрын
I respect others' beliefs and religions but the thing is what is the point of telling your gay friend they are a sinner? Whether or not you see yourself and this person as equal sinners gay marriage wasn't legal in the US till 2015, the reality is in the current world we live in people with same-sex attraction do not have the same privileges as people with opposite-sex attraction. It just comes off as insensitive. There's also the fact that not everyone is Christian or has the belief that being gay is a sin. I personally don't see the benefit of a Christian telling someone that something they can't control is wrong in their religion.
@victmach
@victmach 2 жыл бұрын
If you bring it up out of nowhere, then yes it's insensitive. But if you are asked on your opinion , you have to be honest
@Lilly-hp7th
@Lilly-hp7th 2 жыл бұрын
@@victmach That’s fair, If you are asked then you have every right to be honest. But even in those situations where you are asked you can’t expect them to agree with you or want to change themselves.
@tylerjornov
@tylerjornov 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I always make sure to add is that there’s nothing wrong with two people of the same gender loving each other, that the moral issue comes in when that relationship includes sexual behavior.
@skeleton-bullfrog
@skeleton-bullfrog 2 жыл бұрын
There it is.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
so monogomus, sexual love in a committed relationship is sinful...when did this haappen?
@tylerjornov
@tylerjornov 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri When God condemned it as sinful.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerjornov but he never, so your wrong!
@tylerjornov
@tylerjornov 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the *sexually immoral,* nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor *effeminate,* nor *homosexuals,* nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God." -- 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 God condemns the sexually immoral, adulterers, effeminate and homosexuals as unrighteous sinners who will not inherit His kingdom. Any type of sexual relationship outside of the marriage union between one man and one woman is an abomination before the Lord. It can be forgiven, of course. After all, "such were some of you." But the very fact that such sins necessitate repentance is itself reason that they are sins.
@ChristmasEjyt
@ChristmasEjyt 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much for this as someone who is about to go into Youth ministry I watched this for the information aspect as I know many young people struggle with this nowadays. God bless you and the ministry I'll be sure to apply these truths when teaching and speaking with my youth.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason they "struggle" is because of archaic religions like yours saying that there's something wrong with being LGBTQ+. Kindly keep that bigtory far away from young people.
@davidfitnesstech
@davidfitnesstech Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that modern *societal laws and ideas* have *overridden* many ancient *biblical laws and ideas* ;-)
@MarkJohnson-yn2ol
@MarkJohnson-yn2ol 2 жыл бұрын
Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? Psalm:139:21 God has given them over to a reprobate mind.
@petemiller2920
@petemiller2920 2 жыл бұрын
The only one with a reprobate mind is someone who thinks a loving God could ever command that people who have same-sex relations be put the DEATH.
@coolgoku810
@coolgoku810 2 жыл бұрын
@@petemiller2920 the only people going to he'll are those who don't believe in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus.
@petemiller2920
@petemiller2920 2 жыл бұрын
@@coolgoku810 I didn’t mention hell. Read my comment again. Ya, such a loving God.
@coolgoku810
@coolgoku810 2 жыл бұрын
@@petemiller2920 given how even gay people can enter into heaven and God came from the highest point in heaven to live as a normal man, not rich ,no fleshly clothes, no giant castles or kingdoms and went through crucial suffering on our behalf and rose again. I would say yeah very loving. There was a law that said " any woman who committed adultery let her be stoned to death" And people brought a prostitute to Jesus and they asked should we stoned her according to mosaic law and Jesus said "let he who is without sin can the first stone" and all her accusers left after that Jesus said to her "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" She said "no sir" Jesus said "Neither do I condemn you.
@theCourty140
@theCourty140 Жыл бұрын
Jesus never spoke on this and yet modern day evangelicals are obsessed with it. Some of most eloquent examples of Christ's' love in my life have come from gay people. Grow up, move on, and be more like Jesus.
@Ken-ky4ju
@Ken-ky4ju Жыл бұрын
Matthew 19
@wendymtzc
@wendymtzc Жыл бұрын
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@wendymtzc Yeah it's real cute how you cut out the part about them being in a pagan sex cult.
@redsquare4835
@redsquare4835 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, but I thought you might talk about the specific reasons why LGBTQ is sinful, of course reasons coming from scripture. Do you have any videos on this specifically? Thanks Isaac! 😄😄
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
there is no reason why LGBT is a sin, thats why homophobia is also a sin. They have no answers.
@redsquare4835
@redsquare4835 2 жыл бұрын
@Princess sure! :)
@kennethcava4488
@kennethcava4488 2 жыл бұрын
Only answer the question if the asker legitimately wants to know. If it's a "GOTCHA" question just trying to stir up dissension, ignore the question.
@astrodecidit
@astrodecidit Жыл бұрын
the thing is god dosen’t care if a man loves a man or a woman loves a woman love is love its the most powerful thing out there and thats always been true but ever since the 1700s where gay people started to be discriminated against thats when this started twisting and distorting the word of god to a hateful belief not that you mean to be thats how you see it because people who wrote it and translated it wanted this they wanted division so love became conflict and love keeled to hate.
@ooooooo9314
@ooooooo9314 Жыл бұрын
*Lust is lust
@astrodecidit
@astrodecidit Жыл бұрын
@@ooooooo9314 yeah but it's not being gay that's the sin there's a mighty fine line between lust and love
@ooooooo9314
@ooooooo9314 Жыл бұрын
@@astrodecidit homosexuality is lust.
@astrodecidit
@astrodecidit Жыл бұрын
@@ooooooo9314 how
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@ooooooo9314 Queer people, believe it or not, are human beings and are in fact capable of Love, they are also capable of knowing the difference between Love and lust which is something you seem to be struggling with. Queer people are your spiritual equals, there's no use in pretending otherwise.
@nategraham6946
@nategraham6946 2 жыл бұрын
I am ready to walk away from the church in all honesty. I don't believe when a Christian says they do something out of love. It is as believable as that line in the Incredibles, "The law requires that I answer no." When a Christian says they "love" it is out of obligation and not genuine.
@margarethaf3857
@margarethaf3857 2 жыл бұрын
Often it is. You are so right- so often Christians just "love" out of obligation, sadly. I hope you encounter a real genuine Christian who has the love of God in him, who doesn't just love with his mouth, but also with his actions and from deep in his heart. ❤
@nategraham6946
@nategraham6946 2 жыл бұрын
@@margarethaf3857 I'm certainly not going to hold my breath on that one. I will likely have more luck finding an actual unicorn.
@margarethaf3857
@margarethaf3857 2 жыл бұрын
@@nategraham6946 what kind of a church are you from? Maybe you should just find a new congregation. I don't know much about denominations, but I know the larger ones are usually the most corrupt.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@margarethaf3857 I would advise against assuming that this is a problem of fake Christians. Christians are more than capable of perpetuating absolute cruelty. The Millions dead from the AIDS crisis and its consequences show that all too well.
@lifeinthesaddle7002
@lifeinthesaddle7002 Жыл бұрын
My friend had a friend that is part of the lgbtq and i tried to tell her thats its not right. And she disagreed. Shes also a christian.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 Жыл бұрын
She was right.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
There are many Queer Christians.
@lifeinthesaddle7002
@lifeinthesaddle7002 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford that doesn't make it right
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@lifeinthesaddle7002 Neither does popular opinion make it wrong.
@ladislavferko4796
@ladislavferko4796 2 жыл бұрын
about an hour ago, I was thinking about this topic before this video came out
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
maybe God wanted to tell you homophobia was a sin
@chayrossing
@chayrossing 2 жыл бұрын
The 1946 Revised Standard Version was the first time in all of Biblical history in any language that the word “homosexual” ended up in any Bible. In 1959, a seminary student named David S. responded to the translation team behind the RSV- questioning their choice of the word. To quote him exactly, he said: “Unless this error of translation is corrected, the wide circulation of this version will encourage intolerance and perpetuate a great social injustice thereby discrediting the Christian Church.” He received a reply three weeks later from the translation team, in which they recognized their error- republishing their translation with the term “sexual perverts” instead.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
homophobics won't listen to this
@adenjones1802
@adenjones1802 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Christian and do not believe being LGBT is a sin. I have never in all my life heard a convincing argument as to why it is. Never. People say its unnatural. So is marriage, so is turning the other cheek, so is believing in God, so is walking the extra mile, so is loving thy neighbour, so is walking in obedience to Christ. Some would say stuff about Adam and eve. Just because a straight couple exists doesn't mean a gay couple shouldn't. I see no argument there I don't see why love has to ignore what is spiritual and what pertains to the character of a person and the only thing I have to care about is if they have a vagina. That makes no sense. I could meet someone who I connect with on a spiritual level and love them for who they are on the inside and decide to adopt children without parents and raise them into Christ but no that kind of thing is sinful because the partner I am doing it with doesn't have a vagina. This is the way Christ thinks? NO. Of course not. That is earthly thinking and I reject what is earthly. I don't hate you or anything If you do think it is sinful. You are still my family in Christ. I just have never been convinced. Open to it though.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
well said there......
@lisaisablogger
@lisaisablogger 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! These people sicken me
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@lisaisablogger we must pray for the lost souls in the homophobic lifestyle choice.
@adenjones1802
@adenjones1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri When we get to heaven, promise that all the non-homophobic Christians all get in one big group and shout "I TOLD YOU SO" at the homophobic ones.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@adenjones1802 thats if we can shout loud enough for them when they find they are all in hell?
@sierraclark6129
@sierraclark6129 2 жыл бұрын
“If you declare with your mouth “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Now is the time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon. Tomorrow isn’t promised.
@petemiller2920
@petemiller2920 2 жыл бұрын
But what good reason is there to believe any of this?
@waynemclaughlin8937
@waynemclaughlin8937 2 жыл бұрын
Amen! 🙏
@jeffpossberg1127
@jeffpossberg1127 Жыл бұрын
I have plenty of family who have tried to be loving when telling me not to act on my same-sex attraction. I can assure you, you may feel persecuted for speaking what you believe to be the truth but from this side of the fence it very much feels like family is trying to have me kill off a major aspect of my life. I love them but the kindest response I can manage is "agree to disagree".
@Firebreath56
@Firebreath56 Жыл бұрын
We don't "feel" persecuted, we are persecuted. When we say people shouldn't act on those attractions, we are ridiculed, attacked (more often violently now), demonized, fired from jobs, and silenced. And it's not what we believe is true, it is true. Not only is it sinful, it is objectively bad. It leads to a whole host of immoral and destructive sexual behaviors, and always leads to people being ultimately miserable and unhappy. If you don't believe me, I challenge you to really look at the other members of your community, and see if they really want to end up like them. If this is a major aspect of your life, then that is quite sad. The kindest response to your situation I can manage is: "That's too bad. You can feel whatever you want. Doesn't change reality".
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@Firebreath56 "We don't "feel" persecuted, we are persecuted." Oh wah wah, "we are persecuted. When we say people shouldn't act on those attractions, we are ridiculed, attacked (more often violently now), demonized, fired from jobs, and silenced." Oh so now that you imagine that the shoe is on the other foot all of a sudden this behavior isn't okay. Queer people have been dealing with this in real life, and with no legal protection for decades. It wasn't until _2020_ that it became federal law that you couldn't be fired just for being Queer. And even then many local ordinance nationwide(including the entirety of Arkansas and Tennesse) exist which explicitly prohibit the enforcement of these laws. And if you want to talk about social pressure, Two years ago someone tried to _kill me_ with their car, while yelling some choice words my direction. And so what if you don't feel safe and comfortable expressing your opinions, stupid ideas don't desserve to be coddled. "And it's not what we believe is true, it is true." In your opinion you mean. "Not only is it sinful, it is objectively bad." Objectively you say, that's a yarn. "It leads to a whole host of immoral and destructive sexual behaviors, " It's bad because it's immoral, it's immoral because it's bad. You have no proof you're just talking in circles "and always leads to people being ultimately miserable and unhappy." I know more Queer people than you, this is nonsense. "If you don't believe me, I challenge you to really look at the other members of your community, and see if they really want to end up like them." Given the choice I'd rather be like them than you "if this is a major aspect of your life, then that is quite sad." As opposed to your superior lifestyle where your marriage is not a big deal at all. "That's too bad. You can feel whatever you want. Doesn't change reality." Funny I was going to say something similar to you. Queer People exist, get over it, or you're going to be angry and bitter until the day you die.
@plumsparkles945
@plumsparkles945 Жыл бұрын
How to explain to your freinds how hating on people who never hurt you is a sin. 🏳️‍🌈
@M.P.C.S
@M.P.C.S Жыл бұрын
It's not hate, it's disagreement. I want to tell you this so that you know that we dont hate lgbtq we disagree with it and its a sin. Amen.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 Жыл бұрын
@@M.P.C.S "Uhhh no I just disagree with your existence actually"
@plumsparkles945
@plumsparkles945 Жыл бұрын
@@Maksie0 Thanks for the support ❤️
@M.P.C.S
@M.P.C.S Жыл бұрын
@@Maksie0 Cool, I hope you find our loving Christ Jesus amen.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@M.P.C.S It's neither hatred nor disagreement, it is most often uncontrolled disgust. And considering how most people treat those who disgust them the distinction between that and hatred is negligible.
@MartyMcFly1085
@MartyMcFly1085 Күн бұрын
I don’t think anyone “loves” this man, but he “loves” everyone else
@mbfrommb3699
@mbfrommb3699 2 жыл бұрын
Part 3/3 Thank you for reading, I hope this helps. Paul goes on 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge," or as the NASB says 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, [l]sexual immorality, wickedness, [m]covetousness, [n]maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 [o]undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, [p]unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. Paul isn't speaking about ignorant Gentiles who haven't heard of God before or new Christians that are learning about God. Paul is talking about a previous deep knowledge of God, where people reject Him and turn to other gods. So why are we taking passages from the Bible to hammer those ignorant of God in our culture? It's out of fear. Christians are deeply afraid. Many believe that this "immorality" is a sign of the Last Days and the reason God's judgment will come on the earth. We read that when Jesus returns it will be like the "Days of Noah and Lot." Well if you believe the days of Noah and Lot were about homosexuality instead of genetic corruption of our DNA by enticing people with a corrupt version of eternal life then I guess you would be afraid of homosexuality in our culture. The days of Noah and Lot will come again because people want eternal life just look at the billions spent on cryogenics or curing disease, slowing aging, etc. In the future people will want eternal life and power over others. they will want to rule the world. They may do this by genetic enhancements or trying to transfer their consciousness to a robot body, but in some way they will go from human to non-human in order to obtain a corrupt version of immortality. Whatever it will be, it's definitely not about sexual orientation. Can gay people be saved? Of course. But are they truly saved if they stay in a homosexual relationship? If we believe that salvation is tied to what we do or don't do part from believing in Jesus then we would be afraid of people going to Hell for this "sin." Whatever we are whether Straight, Gay, or Bi, Trans, etc. We are all sinful people. We bring death to others by our words and actions. Proverbs 18:21 "Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit." How many of us have been wounded by what someone else has said to us? This is sin. And regardless of sexual orientation, we have all done it to others. Only Jesus can save us from our sin. Now some become Christians and go from being Gay to finding a heterosexual mate. Does that have to be the same for everyone? God is the one who saves us and God is the one who changes us. Philippians 1:6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ; When we are saved God begins a good work in us, He begins to transform our minds and lives. But He does this in different ways for everyone. This is why we all grow in our faith at different speeds and in different areas. God uses our weaknesses for His glory. I saw a video where God used Richard Dawkins (a devout Athiest) to bring a non-believer to Jesus. God uses cults, and fake healers to bring people to salvation even if the means He uses isn't saved. God uses everything we do and the enemy does to save people and for His glory. So why can't we just chill and share Jesus, since all people regardless of sexual orientation need Jesus? Because we are afraid. We are afraid of "condoning" something we believe God hates. We're afraid it will bring His Judgement. We lack faith in God to do what He says He will do that we overcompensate." It's like dating. If you have ever been in a relationship where the person is drifting away from you? The right thing to do is relax and give them some space to do more things on your own and follow your goals. If the relationship ends then it wouldn't have lasted, but maybe the person breathes a bit and sees you achieving your goals and they might move back towards you. Instead many of us panic and chase them, smother them and they end the relationship. We are afraid to trust them. We try to control them, to make them love us again. It never works. We are afraid that people will go to Hell if we don't chase them to get them to yield and submit to Jesus. We lack faith and trust in God. Our job is to share the hope we have, pray for them, and let God do the rest. In my opinion, the LGBTQ+ issue is more of our lack of understanding and lack of faith and trust in God than it is about some perceived "sin". If you disagree, please feel free to respond. Again this isn't about the LGBTQ+ issue if you are a Christian in the Church. This is about how to handle it in the world and in culture. We need to understand that God rescues people where they're at not from our image of who we think they should be. 1 John 5:11-13 says 11 "And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has [d]life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, [e]and that you may believe in the name of the Son of God." You either have Jesus or you don't everything else is irrelevant from an eternal perspective. So why are we arguing with people about a topic God doesn't care about for those who are not saved? God cares about people being saved. Period. Then The Holy Spirit works to transform as He sees fit. Everyone in their own way. But they are still His Children saved by His grace. My 2 cents preach Jesus so people can be saved and not our ideology. Take care. May the LORD bless you and keep you until He comes. Happy New year!
@calamitychaela1994
@calamitychaela1994 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this is a great way to share the gospel of not the best: all have fallen and come short of the glory of God. We need a savior to save us from hell, we have that savior, it's Jesus Christ. He died for our sins to be forgiven if we truly repent and ask God to renew our minds, and give us a godly sorrow for our sins. Then we should begin the process of conversion. Point being, my friend, this issue with your approach, unless I've misunderstood you, is that people will not understand they truly need saving unless they're aware they've sinned. I suggest watching a few of Living Waters videos on sharing the gospel. They have a YT channel. May God bless you brother 🙏.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
aall this shows is homophobia is a sin more so
@dubstep5925
@dubstep5925 Жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri it isn’t
@pastorbri
@pastorbri Жыл бұрын
@@dubstep5925 it is
@dubstep5925
@dubstep5925 Жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri your twisting the words of the bible and near the end of revelation says those who take away from the bible will have their name taken from the book of life
@pnwmeditations
@pnwmeditations 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered leaving people the hell alone? You don't know what other's people lived experience is. You don't know what you don't know.
@scouthart3062
@scouthart3062 2 жыл бұрын
He does this out of love not hate.
@pnwmeditations
@pnwmeditations 2 жыл бұрын
@@scouthart3062 They don't need his "love". There's a huge difference between good intentions and good results.
@scouthart3062
@scouthart3062 2 жыл бұрын
@@pnwmeditations Jesus loves you. I pray that the way the truth and the life be revealed to you in Jesus name amen. Also have you considered leaving Christians alone for a hypocritical of you to say a Christian leave people alone but you yourself don't leave Christians alone who are people too. I speak this out of love because I want you to know the truth that God so loved the world that he gave his only son for whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. God bless you with Clarity in Jesus name amen
@pnwmeditations
@pnwmeditations 2 жыл бұрын
@@scouthart3062 Yeah, don't try me. I spent most of my life in the Christian Church. It didn't work. I would leave Christians alone if they left other people alone. But they don't; they feel compelled to "make disciples" of other people and as such, have the outrageous arrogance to think they know what's best for other people with very different lived experiences than their own. There's a saying in the ex-Christian community: "There's no hate like Christian love". What a Christian might think is an act of love all too often hurts more than it helps. I've seen it first-hand more times than I can count.
@scouthart3062
@scouthart3062 2 жыл бұрын
@@pnwmeditations If you try to serve two masters it won't work. I tried that for over a decade. But now I serve God alone. "Do to others as you would have them do unto you". I do for when I was struggling with my faith I did not really want to hear all this Christian suff. But even though it hurt it brought me closer to Christ than ever before and that is more helpful than I could ever describe. God bless you with clarity
@victoriabrownwell4301
@victoriabrownwell4301 2 жыл бұрын
For all of those saying that it won't matter because they'll call you hateful still, my advice is to pray to soften their heart. Not just before you talk to them, but even after. Whenever you talk to them, you don't have to constantly say to them that it's a sin. One time you can talk to them about it and after you can pray with them or just quietly pray about them to open their eyes and soften their heart.
@jamersbazuka8055
@jamersbazuka8055 2 жыл бұрын
100% it's so important to talk about The Law and The Gospel up front. If they don't agree about The Law, of course they won't agree on particular laws therein.
@epaminon6196
@epaminon6196 2 жыл бұрын
But that's just the thing. There is no law within the Bible that would declare mere homosexuality to be a sin. As long as you don't have premarital sex and only make love to your same-sex spouse all your life, you're in the clear.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
funny how religious folk cherry pick the law
@gmg9010
@gmg9010 5 күн бұрын
As someone who is figuring out if I’m bisexual or not I just see the hate that the LGBTQ+ community gets by the right and by Christians and I also feel like the LGBTQ+ issue is just like the civil rights issue back in the day with how we don’t allow them in our churches. The one part I don’t agree with is putting an LGBTQ+ flag outside our churches yes we want to show that we are accepting to these people but we don’t want to skew the message of our religion. So no I don’t agree with this take. I just feel like it’s a way for Christians just yearning to be persecuted because of course a lot of Christians even myself have wanted or done almost anything to get persecuted.
@princedemetri
@princedemetri 2 жыл бұрын
You explaining to LGBTQ individuals that it is a sin isn't exactly the problem. That's your Christian view that which you are free to have and thrive in such and even speak on... HOWEVER the SOLE issue that most have with Christians is the hate that LGBTQ individuals receive for being who they are, the ostracization, the push to convert them to your specific ideology and agree with you, etc. You are free to believe what you believe, speak out and do all your loving and gracious speeches... and I can assure you that most, if not all, LGBTQ individuals have listened to this same exact spiel, so it's not exactly new or something you have to endlessly break down. Most LGBTQ individuals are also aware of what your holy book teaches because most LGBTQ individuals (ESPECIALLY IN THE US) were once in your shoes. But some of the Christians, including yourself, need to ACCEPT that some of these people have made up their minds about who they are. Consistently trying to convince people that they are living a sinful life isn't necessary. Think about how the way you feel when an LGBTQ individual tries to lovingly or graciously explain to you that there are "multiple genders." For you, you've probably heard the same arguments left and right, but you find yourself SET in your belief and the way YOU want to live your life... Well it's that SAME exact concept for LGBTQ folks. They've heard it all. When they decide to come around to Christ or God or Allah or whoever else is out there, they will make that decision on their own... just like you've come to your decision to accept Christ on your own.
@masterofice_
@masterofice_ 2 жыл бұрын
Of course we have to tell them that they're wrong and that they need to change, Jesus tells us in Matthew 28 to "go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you." Even if they have already made up their minds, it is God's command to tell them about Jesus and what He teaches. And sometimes those people that have made up their minds like this change. With man it is impossible but with God everything is possible. It is very much necessary to tell people about what they are doing wrong. We're telling them to change their ways and do right. What Jesus teaches is right. If an LGBTQ individual "tries to lovingly or graciously explain that there are "multiple genders", I wouldn't feel the way that they feel when we tell them they're wrong, because I know that what we say to them when we tell them to repent is right. I, we, want to live our lives as Christ told us we should. Christ is perfect and did not teach anything wrong.
@princedemetri
@princedemetri 2 жыл бұрын
@@masterofice_ yes, but that’s YOUR belief that you are free to hold and speak on. However, The point isn’t about you teaching and preaching and speaking or sharing. That’s not where the problem originates. The problem originates in the hatred, ostracization, and this need to convert LGBTQ individuals who don’t care about Matthew 28 or anything else stated in the Bible. There’s a point to accept that your LGBTQ friend will either choose or not choose your way to salvation, Pressuring people into it by consistently telling them that they’re wrong is not love my dude. Love is informing people and setting them free and letting them choose where they want to be in this life.
@masterofice_
@masterofice_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@princedemetri ah I see. Yes, many Christians hate LGBTQ individuals. But that isn't how it should be. The proper thing to do is tell them the right thing with love and compassion, just as Jesus did when he was teaching. We tell them that they need to change (because we know for a fact that the LGBTQ is wrong, as mentioned many times in the Bible) because again, it's what Christ told us to do, but we don't force it on them, and they can believe whatever they want to believe. But that doesn't mean that what they believe in is right. Love isn't letting people choose to become whatever they want to be without at least trying to correct them. That just isn't what God is. He sent his son to die on a cross for our sins, and to teach that we need to repent and return to God. It is better to be divided by truth than to be united in error.
@scouthart3062
@scouthart3062 2 жыл бұрын
@@princedemetri love is patient love is kind and I will wait for them as Christ waited for me. God bless you with Clarity according to His will and timing in the name of Jesus amen.
@princedemetri
@princedemetri 2 жыл бұрын
@@scouthart3062 appreciate your prayer. Thank you
@janets132003
@janets132003 2 жыл бұрын
What a great talk. Started my morning with this, now on to my devotions.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
Homophobia is not great
@jhmejia
@jhmejia 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a Christian but I agree with this in the sense that it would be a Christians responsibility to preach the truth… However, I ask that you would definitely also try to understand why people think Christianity can be harmful because people will always use the Bible as an excuse to do not only harmful biblical things (aside from lgbtq, the “women must be silent” passage, etc. etc.) but also they’ll use the Bible to justify things that aren’t even in the Bible. And so yeah, just try to listen to people who try to challenge your beliefs because from todays (somewhat subjective) moral values, following the Bible can cause harm if it’s not true. 1 Corinthians 15:14 “And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.”
@shftin2gear
@shftin2gear 2 жыл бұрын
“Following the Bible can cause harm if it’s not true” But harm by what standard? Morality is subjective without God, so therefore harm isn’t well defined. Also, people can use Christianity for harm the same way any set of beliefs can be used for harm. It’s not a problem unique to Christianity, and I would even argue Christianity deals with the problem the best, looking at it’s effect on the world vs other ideologies like Islam, Marxism, Tauism, etc.
@jhmejia
@jhmejia 2 жыл бұрын
@@shftin2gear well, I think you can say something is objectively good for a species well-being... Like I think we could say stuff like climate change is objectively going to effect human's well-being without God. Now of course, at that point the apologetic Christian would say "well why does our well being matter?". And I suppose there's no objective reason for that outside of either "God" or "it's an evolutionary trait to want self-preservation/well-being" But we can definitely say something is bad for human's/humanities well being without God. The issue is "why is our well being important?" Oh but yeah you're right, people can use most any belief for harm. Though it's a lot easier to cause harm with "God" 😅... Y'know, like church abuse, divine mandate in China, etc.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
if you was christian you would also know homophobia is a sin
@jhmejia
@jhmejia 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri well I'm not a christian and I don't take a holy book as my moral system 😅
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@jhmejia its a sad fact, many non christians turn out to be more christian than religious folk. Homophobiaa is a sin.
@kylielesmeister6277
@kylielesmeister6277 2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of it includes that you need to show how the gospel has changed you fundamentally in your own life.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
but its not changed his homophobic lifestyle choice has it.
@kennysfdg471
@kennysfdg471 2 жыл бұрын
I was explaining my stance to someone, and they kept calling me a "homophobic bigot." It was funny because most people around were like, "bro, he's laying down his opinion while not being hateful - you're overreacting." In the end, it's down to both morality and science. Two X chromosomes mean female because of the production of ovaries, even if you somehow get three X chromosomes, you're still female. And a Y chromosome, even though there could be two Xs, has you produce sperm, meaning you're a male.
@petemiller2920
@petemiller2920 2 жыл бұрын
No trans or trans-friendly people are denying which chromosomes people have, so what’s your point?
@kennysfdg471
@kennysfdg471 2 жыл бұрын
@@petemiller2920 Plain and simple, this: SDDs don't signify a spectrum of genders, as the person I spoke to previously thought. Hope that helped, friend!
@petemiller2920
@petemiller2920 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennysfdg471 what are SDDs?
@davidm4566
@davidm4566 2 жыл бұрын
Just keep holding to the truth with love. Truth without love is cruel and love without truth isn't really love, it's just placating.
@kennysfdg471
@kennysfdg471 2 жыл бұрын
@@petemiller2920 It's like Sexual Differences and Disorders or something like that. It's basically a person having thee X chromosomes, or two Xs and one Y.
@Rinkyu
@Rinkyu 2 жыл бұрын
Be brave and no matter how they react you did the right thing. The seed of truth was planted.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 2 жыл бұрын
it's not the right thing, though.
@legionofgod6691
@legionofgod6691 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maksie0 have I seen you somewhere
@ISUNDERSTOOD
@ISUNDERSTOOD 2 жыл бұрын
this was phenomenally spoken, thank you for your heart and intention behind this topic
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
BUT U KNOW HE WAS WRONG?
@jessiQa1776
@jessiQa1776 2 жыл бұрын
Also, mentioning that Jesus hung out with all the people that needed him most is a good point.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
yes he would hang out with homophobics more than any LGBT people.
@ConfusedWonkie
@ConfusedWonkie 2 жыл бұрын
this was so well done
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