How to Fill Your Own Sodastream Cylinders/Bottles at Home - Save Cash - More Convenient

[@Afterfire4304]

Excellent public speaker. Well presented. Should come to US and tour professionally !!

[@KegLand]

Thank you. Cheers!

[@cygnusx-1318]

really helpful explaining how the newer valves work. Well done. thanks!

[@somebody6048]

If you really want to fill the Sodastream cylinder to full capacity, just do it twice. Freeze the cylinder in the freezer, then follow the instruction here and fill it up as much as you can. Then put it back in the freezer again so the cylinder and the CO2 gas that has fill up the cylinder to 80-90% capacity is at freezing temperature, then follow the refill instruction from here again. And if you weight the cylinder this time, you will see that it is at full capacity. This is the best method to ensure that it is fill to 100% capacity, even if it might be a hassle freezing the cylinder twice. Btw. Do not take too long to close the valve of the refill tank. If you take too long, the Sodastream cylinder will absorb the ambient heat from the room and increase the temperature of the Sodastream cylinder thus increase the pressure inside the cylinder. The higher pressure inside the cylinder will push the CO2 gas inside the cylinder back into the refill tank to equalize the pressure between the two, thus resulting in less CO2 gas inside the cylinder.

[@TriXterIII]

🤟😎👌

[@hqmhqm]

Thanks so much for this tutorial! It explained why I wasn't getting a fill!

[@KegLand]

No worries at all. Let us know if you need any further assistance.

[@ash_au]

Thanks Kee, I've just used the adapter for the first time and filled two bottles following your video. I'm surprised how much I was able to get into each cylinder.....416g into a standard 400g standard cylinder, and 339g into a 330g starter cylinder. Both chilled to -20c, filled from a 6kg host. A very handy piece of brass!

[@thomasweber6385]

I'm pretty sure it would be dangerous to fill the sodastream tanks - or any tanks - beyond what they are rated for. You can use the bleed valve to release the excess co2.

[@ash_au]

@@thomasweber6385 No, no danger. The moment you open the donor bottle's valve the small bottle instantly reaches maximum pressure.

[@MrDschubba]

@@thomasweber6385 just swapped some bottles at Noel leemings. The 270 was filled to 325g and the 400 to 425g net.

[@randybb]

@@thomasweber6385 you are only pouring co2 from one cylinder to another. the pressure is the same :) Only problem is when it is totally full, then it is super hard to open its valve - for this reason is the overfilling not good.

[@gdlivo3353]

​@@ash_au Wrong. If that happened transfer would stop and the bottle would remain empty.. It's the same as saying as soon as you connect the air hose to your car tyre, it's fully pumped up.

[@CampbellKyle]

Excellent Tutorial and very professionally presented. Just purchased one of these adaptors after searching everywhere for a female connection on both ends to connect my BOC type 30 D tank to a soda stream tank. Thanks for the tips 👍👍

[@JNish]

I was having a hard time getting the Sodastream canister to fill, even with opening very slowly and releasing pressure. What I found eventually worked with reliability is to loosely screw the Sodastream canister to the adapter so gas can escape when you open the CO2 tank, then slowly tighten the Sodastream canister and it will stay open and fill.

[@danagboi]

This is the only technique that worked for me as well. It is described by someone else below as well. I tried tightening both fully and using the bleed valve on the adapter open at the beginning to try to gradually introduce CO2 to the Soda Stream cylinder but you are absolutely right - if you tighten it on too much to start you won't get any gas transfer.

[@KegLand]

That is the correct way. Some people struggle when they overtighten the cylinders. Though getting one of our Kegland Branded bottles makes it even simpler to refill.

[@Daniel-of8po]

FINALLY! Someone who explains why I wasn't getting anywhere with it. This worked a treat straight away 👍

[@TonyFromarty]

Thanks, that works

[@dbmasters]

Thank you!!!

[@boomish69]

Best explanation on how to fill the co2 of a soda stream, thank you!!

[@KegLand]

No worries. Thanks for the support.

[@gileskelley889]

explains great about opening the valve just a little for slow fill, worked well for me, otherwise the soda stream tank closes if opened to fast and wont fill, that is what happened to me, the other guys don't mention that important thing

[@KegLand]

A lot of people do have some trouble filling the genuine soda stream bottles because of that.

[@S3b5Tube]

@@KegLand how slow is a slow fill??

[@Donhollio]

Living in Manitoba Canada, -35c is easy in January to 'chill' the cylinders!

[@KegLand]

Wow. That's icy!

[@dropkick63]

Not so easy in Nth Qld Australia, coldest winters day is about 8deg C

[@jamesheinzle8917]

@@KegLand wow KegLand you respond to this but not a troubling question on your product or the default of the release valve on the cylinder. What a team

[@KegLand]

@@jamesheinzle8917 Hello James. Sounds like you have a specific issue with a product you have got? If that is the case best to email the guys in customer service. Please send your order number and some information regarding the issue and I am sure they can assist.

[@ridhamthumar3520]

No wonder we have difficult times to do this in +46c Indian summer in May.

[@rkgrant]

Super video. You solved my problem. During refilling I was opening the valve on the large host cylinder too fast, and, as you showed in your video, this was causing the valve in the new-style sodastream canister to close shut, thus preventing filling.

[@KegLand]

Yes it's very annoying that Sodastream have put this feature into the new cylinders. it really makes the filling process more compilated.

[@johnclugston614]

Can you still buy an old style sofa stream cylinder

[@free4free68]

I have had a slightly different experience in using my adapter. I follow the steps as per the video however I found that I tighten the adapter all the way to the CO2 bottle which is fine and then I hand tighten the pre frozen sodastream cylinder to the adapter. If I tighten the sodastream cylinder it all the way the gas doesn't flow so I loosen the sodastream cylinder (about an eigth of a turn) with the CO2 turned on and I can hear it start to fill. I only slightly crack the CO2 cylinder to get the gas flowing and I leave it upside down on a bench (I have a six kg CO2 Cylinder) and it takes about ten minutes to fill. Midway through the fill I check to see if the gas is still flowing as obviously there is a bit off back pressure so I increase the CO2 flow slightly so I can hear it running again. After ten or so minutes I check it and if there is no gas running I increase the pressure on the CO2 bottle again and if there is no obvious flow I turn off the CO2 and disconnect the SodaStream bottle. Doing it this way I can get the total weight of the refilled bottle to 1145g. A factory bottle filled is 1180g. One thing to note which I don't think is in the video is that if you partially fill the bottle and the safety valve goes off I don't think you can continue to fill the bottle, you either have to use the gas in it or empty it out. You have to empty it before you start to fill it in the beginning also. Hope this helps.

[@misterwilson9929]

Is this true/confirmed if you put too much pressure and trip the pin you have to empty the whole bottle or cannot fill anymore?

[@smrtcarsmrtcar]

@@misterwilson9929 It is false. Use the release valve to depressurise the adapter and start over to refill but more slowly.

[@andrewfwkelly]

Lifesaver! Thought I was going crazy as I could not fill my SS bottle from the 6kg bottle. Your trick with the slight loosening worked for me. I tried with and without the RPV in place. Left it in the last time and the bottle took 2 minutes to fill. It's a bit of an art to turn the valve on very slowly.

[@danagboi]

This is the only technique that worked for me. I spent ages trying to crack the bottle gently etc etc and even loosened off the bleed valve on the adapter so that I could feel when the co2 was 'just' starting to release with no result. This technique was the winner for me and worked straight away. You, Sir, are a legend. I froze my Soda Stream cylinder for 1 hour and used this exact technique, coming back after 3 mins to open the main cylinder valve a touch as the flow had indeed stopped due to back pressure. Got my Soda Stream cylinder 95% full (1100g) and got a smooch from the wife.

[@tonylane8873]

You are a champion! Thankyou for your insight: I was going crazy fiddling and faffing about and occasionally getting some gas in the sodastream bottles. 1/8 turn back from tight and it works like it should - 1100g fill which I think is as good as it gets under home conditions.

[@CathyO3028]

Wow what an incredibly clear video….big fan of kegland now just because of this!!

[@KegLand]

Thanks for that. We appreciate it.

[@schruff1]

Thank you very much explaining why the latest cylinders valve design makes problems filling up. Been surfing the net for some hours. Found your video on a German posting: “Bei ca. 5:30 Minuten erklärt der Junge auf die Unterschiede der Ventile und wie man entsprechend unterschiedlich bei der Befüllung vorgeht. Viele Grüße, Martin” …..And he also posted your KZbin weblink. Now it works. Again thank you. Fritz

[@KegLand]

Cheers! Happy to help.

[@humanonearth1]

Somebody has a hard science background. Cheers guys great content, great products!

[@KegLand]

Thanks for that we appreciate the support.

[@AUNZAnon]

Awesome instructions and advice Kegland!

[@michaelgauthier2741]

-40 or -50 will give the best fill? So I’ll just fill it up outside here in Canada in the winter.

[@daphneraven9439]

Early February just might be the optimal time to do the year’s worth of refills, at least on The Rock, than!

[@KegLand]

Haha that seems like a solid plan! Do let us know if it works.

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

Any advailable tube and fitting to simply hook the big cylinder to the sodastream and not deal with the refilling ?

[@KegLand]

@@bluesdog88 Yes this is my preferred method. Just get the hose and be done with filling all together.

[@anthony9thompson]

Well this was an excellent video. Thank you.

[@KegLand]

No worries. thanks for your support!

[@KiteBud]

Thanks for this great tutorial, I'm about to try this for the first time today. Any minimum recommended time to freeze the bottle before refilling it ?

[@surfski1959]

Thanks everyone. I was even trying to leave the relief valve open with a plan to close it as soon as gas started to transfer. Just kept blowing the O ring. I'll try leaving the soda stream bottle a little loose to start.

[@KegLand]

It's not a good idea to have the soda bottle loose when you start. It really damages the o-ring.

[@charanpreetatwal265]

This is such a great explanation, thank you for making this! How do you know which the can is full and when to turn it off and detach?

[@KegLand]

Its a liquid transfer so basically it is self equilibrating

[@boneman-0138]

you need to weigh you cylinder before filling as you must only fill co2 to 66% of the water capacity of the cylinder to allow for expansion of the gas when the cylinder warms up. determine the volume of the cylinder, it should be stamped on the neck of the cylinder and only fill to 66% full.

[@kastrupcarioca]

Congrats for the very well detailed video!

[@KegLand]

Thank you very much!

[@glennmcgrath516]

Adding a second o-ring to the bleed valve did the trick for me. Still some gas leaking between the thread of the adapter and big bottle, thread was very tight, guess i should have tightened it more, but worked.

[@joymychoice]

Thank you. Is this suitable for Terra machine cylinders?

[@KegLand]

Not at this stage. We're working on it

[@cloudsstar]

most shops will fill the soda stream bottles if you bring your adapter as most shops dont have them but are happy to fill them up

[@freewaybaby]

How much do they charge? I used to just exchange bottles at Bed, Bath and Beyond, but they are all closed now!

[@cloudsstar]

@@freewaybaby depends on place in my city party city will do it for $2-$5

[@Joelification1]

Hi guys, I filled as per the video, tried to bleed the gas connector but it kept going. Went to unscrew the bottle and it was just spewing gas. Ended up fully unscrewing it whilst leaking...the valve seemed to be stuck open. Any advice on how to prevent that?

[@KegLand]

The poppet pin might just need to be reseated. This can be done by lightly pushing down on the pin.

[@roxychic367]

I have the connector but it’s been a pain to get more than a short sound. Took it off but noticed the pin won’t move anymore, any clue as to why the pin is now stuck down? I have the main bottle from you guys and the direct adapter so using that too, I just wanted to get the the hand of the refiller adapter also :) I may swap the bottle out of the pin is stuck down

[@KegLand]

You might have a faulty sodastream cylinder in that case. I would recommend purchasing one of the KegLand branded sodastream type cylinders.

[@denishillman5942]

Thanks for the info on the SS valve. I've been having a hell of a time trying to fill them.

[@southwestsearch]

LoL! I thought that bolt was to hold the brass fitting on the nonscrewable CO2 bottle.

[@TophatOrange]

Hi thanks for this clear vid, im a airgun collector and just purchased some old CO2 match rifles / pistols, (Walther CGM, Feinwerkbau C62) how do you time the filling for each cylinder, is there an average time for an amount of cc, do you hear the speed of filling go slower or do i have to get a (Tara) scale and flexible hose and weight the filling.

[@chuckdontknowdoya6100]

You have to do it by weight if you overfill them kiss your old seals goodbye.

[@linopacheco9124]

Excellent video!!! Do KegLand 6Kg cylinders come without a dip tube? I ask just to confirm that they must be turned upside down too.

[@lienbijs1205]

How do you know when the soda stream tank is full?

[@JerrySmiler1968]

I believe it should weigh about 750g when empty and 1200g when full.

[@lienbijs1205]

@@JerrySmiler1968 Oh great! Thank you!

[@Bruisaanhuis]

Okay so i stumbled upon the following issue: I tried filling a soda stream cylinder which i cooled in the freezer for about an hour or 2. Using a similar setup but i have an adapter with a high pressure hose attached. The cylinder is standing on a scale while i am filling it up so i can exactly see how much it weighs. With the cooled cylinder i manage to almost fully fill it up. (Which you dont want to do completely because the gas will expand a little more when it reaches room temperature). So when i filled it for about 80% i close the big tank, use the bleed valve and take the cylinder off. While doing this i noticed the soda stream valve (newer disk version) keeps leaking gas. I tried to look this up on the internet but could not find a solution for this problem yet. This happened twice already with 2 different cylinders.. both with the new disk valve. I somehow think this is a build in temper-proof valve which soda stream now uses to force customers to swap the empty cylinders for a new one for the ridiculous price they’re asking.. Has anyone else encountered the same problem i just described and maybe found a solution to solve this issue? Excuse me for my spelling mistakes by the way. Please like this comment so more people can see!! Hope to hear back from someone!:) Peace.

[@johnauld1268]

The brass nozzle can be replaced with one that allows easy refilling. Before you buy, check that the threads work for your country, because they do vary. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001335435349.html

[@captcon4767]

Send the faulty bottle back to soda stream and they will replace it - it did take around 2-3 weeks but they replace them for free if they continue to leak

[@KegLand]

Get in touch with us if you are having trouble. We can help provide you some options!

[@MarkusGehlhaar]

Perfect explanation. Thanks

[@KegLand]

Cheers!

[@nl4402]

Excellent video

[@DrMJT]

When you press 'Fizz'... stop before the overfill squawk. Then Wait at least 30 seconds before doing another Fizz button. Then Wait another 30 seconds for the third Fizz. And finally - Wait 10 to 15 seconds and release the bottle. This gives the CO2 time to dissolve into the water. When press, press, press and Release in a few seconds... there is not sufficient time for the CO2 to dissolve in water. Everyone who does the 'wait' between the three Fizz will use LESS CO2 and have Very Fizzy water, wine, tequila, vodka (anything other than water - only fill bottle to the 25 to 33% amount/volume of the SodaStream Bottle - do not fill to the WATER Line with wine or alcohols). :)

[@chillbeatsandvibes3823]

Hi, will this adapter work with the 450g KegLand brand CO2 bottles? Or only with SodaStream bottles? Cheers

[@KegLand]

Yes absolutely. The Kegland cylinders are easier to fill and can be purchased here: www.kegland.com.au/450gram-sodastream-compatible-refillable-gas-cylinder-for-co2-or-nitrogen.html

[@AriHayable]

Do you have the US version in stock. I couldn’t find it on your website. Part # KL07160?

[@jimg9327]

Now, show us a vidio on how to fill the new style bottles used for Sodastream Terra models. Thanks

[@KegLand]

We have not got round to that but we will do this soon.

[@beefa5649]

good information, thanks kee..........can i use the freedom one soda stream adapter hose during the transfer.......may make it easier, cheers.......

[@beefa5649]

basically wondering if the hose can handle the liquid co2, and is it actually possible with the fittings on the hose.

[@KegLand]

Not without modifying it. The freedom one hose has female on one side and male thread on the other side. To connect the cylinder to the sodastream you need female to female threads on both ends like this adaptor in the video.

[@paulhorton7663]

Hi. Can I get one of these adapters in the USA? I see your website doesn't allow shipping to there. Thanks!

[@misterwilson9929]

is it possible to overfill the sodastream tank using this method?

[@misterwilson9929]

@TMoD7007 yes I recently tried this and actually overfilled my 14oz bottle to 15oz (I weighed it afterwards). Was easy to bleed out the extra ounce, but had I not been using a scale, would never have know. The problem is you can't weigh as you fill since it is rigidly attached to the tank

[@rsilvers129]

@@misterwilson9929 Yeah. I will buy one on a hose so I can weigh it.

[@elainenicole7573]

Yes you can. I did it the tank flew off and it was VERY dangerous. Do not do this.

[@hilux8103]

@@elainenicole7573 U need to use the release tap/valve prior to removing the cyclinder to remove the pressure

[@DasilvaCooking]

Great video it help to solve my problem!

[@KegLand]

Cheers!

[@en2oh]

great piece of information! Thanks for sharing this

[@KegLand]

My pleasure!

[@drh3rd]

Well done, sir.

[@outthere9370]

So I take it by inverting the feed bottle you're actually filling the Soda bottle with liquid CO2 & not gas? Hence the need to freeze the bottle to reduce any "flashing".

[@KegLand]

Bingo

[@projectzptyltd8517]

What is the thread of the new sodastream bottles?

[@icemanknobby]

I filled a sodastream bottle from the freezer and left in the kitchen in the warm, the safety valve blew out on the bottle when it warmed up, can I assume this is not advisable?? Maybe the the pressure goes up when the bottle warms up?

[@KegLand]

You need to weigh the bottle before and after, and bleed the cylinder if it is more than 400g.

[@debbiebrennan3119]

Can I fill a 130L soda stream cylinder with this adapter?

[@robertward8794]

I'm filling sodastream bottles from a full 8.3kg no dip tube CO2 cylinder, it doesn't seem to have an RPV valve. I've put your easy fill valves on the sodastream bottles and I'm putting the bottles in the freezer. I'm releasing the residual gas from the sodastream just before I fill them, I hold the cylinder upside down for filling. The fill I get is around the 300gm mark, is that as good as it gets? Just curious, its not a problem.

[@jessethomson7799]

Do the 6kg cylinders also not have a "dip tube" and thus also need to be inverted?

[@hoppyindianbrewery9138]

yes thats correct.

[@CollinRoche]

Can you demonstrate which o-rings/washers go where from that brass valve kit from amazon? It's not clear at all

[@KegLand]

I am not sure about the stuff on Amazon as we do not sell anything on Amazon

[@arnienz1962]

@kegland What regulators do you use to then use the Co2 in the sodsastream cylinder?

[@KegLand]

You can use our MK4 dual gauge regulator along with the deluxe soda stream adaptor.

[@jameslittle2382]

how do you know when the cannister is full?

[@esszee7344]

Maybe add a note to keep sodastream bottle a bit loose to start the filling as that is the only way one can fill the bottle to its capacity. The normal process does not work well.

[@pequodexpress]

Is this the same with the older push-button valves on the SS cannisters?

[@tinyjungle_]

Checked your website and I don't see the American thread type available

[@KegLand]

The kegland website has just the Australian model. If you contact our American distributors they will have the correct thread to suit America. KegLand has two main distributors in America. www.morebeer.com and www.williamsbrwing.com

[@anserafers8088]

Why should I remove the RPV from the cylinder valve?? Isn’t this defeating the purpose of having an RPV in the first place??

[@KegLand]

The RPV is for retaining a small amount of positive pressure in the larger cylinder. So before the cylinder is empty this should be replaced. You can try and fill the sodastream with this in place but the fill rate for your Sodastream will be very slow.

[@alexandremalta1539]

It didn't work for me. I purchased the adaptor and a 6Kg CO2 bottle from Kegland, followed the instructions and the sodastream bottle said "no". That valve (with the wider disc) seems to be well developed not to allow refills. I spent 2 hours and no game. Now I am starting to think in a Plan B, as I spent at least 120AUD with the gear so far.

[@SouthernFriedGerman]

There are still old sodastream as new bottles sold in the shops. Might get lucky that way. I might try to go to shops that do the swap and ask them if I can have a look at the empty ones and see if any have the old tops.

[@alexandremalta1539]

@@SouthernFriedGerman That is a good idea. I know that Kegland will have this type (old style valve) of bottle to sell from end of Feb/21. That might also be an option.

[@johnauld1268]

Plan B. Go to aliexpress and search for "sodastream valve", that's the brass valve at the top of the cylinder. The replacement does not have any refill protection.

[@SouthernFriedGerman]

@@johnauld1268 don't even have to go to aliexpress, eBay has them too. But I ended up swapping my sodastream canisters for sodaking ones and they work.

[@KegLand]

Are you freezing the soda stream cylinder overnight in the freezer before refilling it? Is your soda stream cylinder completely empty before you try to refill? If there is any residual gas within the cylinder, it will prevent any liquid from coming in. What is the weight of the host cylinder? As the host cylinder gets empty, you would not be able to fill the soda stream cylinder completely. If you are using genuine sodastream cylinders, these are a lot more difficult to refill as they have been designed in a way to prevent people from refilling. We would recommend getting one of our Kegland branded sodastream cylinders which are a lot easier to refill. Lastly, make sure you have enough gas to refill with. As you use up liquid CO2 from your host bottle, you will get lesser and lesser refills as the liquid CO2 gets used up.

[@fatdanny8251]

How will you know when its full? Will it make that same "pop" noise that it made when you went too fast?

[@KegLand]

It does make a very small noise when you fill too fast but its such a small noise you probably will miss it.

[@freewaybaby]

@@KegLand But, as was asked, how do you know when it’s full?

[@joshg9613]

Would also like to know how you can tell when it's full cheers

[@KegLand]

@@joshg9613 It's best to detach the cylinder then weigh it on the scales. You can measure how much gas based on how heavy the cylinder is after the fill.

[@dianarutecki9810]

Great information thank you

[@56Spookdog]

I know it will use a bit of gas but wouldn’t opening the bleed valve/bolt on the side of the soda stream valve head chill the bottle down rapidly while filling it with some gas? If one wants to get serious you could cascade the gas.

[@MrPoojanModi]

Does the refillable bottle comply with ISO 10297 valve compliance?

[@KegLand]

We are goverend by the Australian standards in Australia and our Sodastream Type cylinders meet all the requirements of the Australian standards and work cover safety. I can't comment on the ISO10297 as this is an international standard which we have not looked into. Often the standards are quite similar between Australian standards and ISO standards but it's outside of my expertise.

[@MrPoojanModi]

@@KegLand Ohok would you be able to tell me which Australian standard does the valve complies to?

[@sanitarcho]

Do you sell adapters for quick connect the new pink bottles ?

[@KegLand]

I am not sure what you mean Pink bottles?

[@larryseibold4287]

How does the factory fill these small (489g) CO2 bottles? do they freeze them over night as well, since there is no bleed port? If i bring the bottle and adapter to a gas supplier, wont they need to freeze the tank to get any real product transfer?

[@KegLand]

No, when these are filled in the factory they are done with a pump that forces gas into the tank. We do sell the pumps on our website and they are a few thousand bucks.

[@WoobAu]

Hey guys, I've got a feeling I overfilled my latest Sodastream cylinder.. it's weighing 1300grams after the fill , about 80 grams more than it should. Is there a risk with connecting this to the Sodastream machine? Should I purge some gas before I hook it up? Cheers.

[@KegLand]

The sodastream machine would be fine. I would connect the cylinder and purge out some gas sooner rather than.

[@WoobAu]

@@KegLand Thanks cobba, will do

[@88Nikoli]

It will be fine, but you need to allow for expansion upon warming as to no blow cylinder

[@monablue6]

Please!!! Can I use this adapter and technique for soda stream TERRA???

[@KegLand]

yes I believe so.

[@0lcr0]

Is it possible to use this adapter to connect to a regulator and serve beer as well? Or do I need 2 adapters if I want to refill and serve? Cheers

[@KegLand]

You will need two adaptors as the threads are different.

[@monjavermaak8250]

Hi! Does the adapter have a pin on the side where you screw in the sodastream bottle?

[@KegLand]

yes it does.

[@kristiwitkowski6430]

where do I buy this adapter?

[@DavidGoodlin]

When I slowly open my source tank, air comes gushing out of the sodastream bottle side. I've tried with 1 washer, 2 washers and no washers. I can't get a clean seal. Any ideas?

[@KegLand]

Check the bleed valve o-ring - that's the most likely culprit

[@BritAussieDude]

What’s the cost breakdown? How much does it cost per soda stream cylinder, when u factor in the cost of the big one, adaptor and refilling the big cylinder????

[@KegLand]

this will vary depending on where you are in Australia. For KegLand in Melbourne please refer to our prices on the website.

[@FindSomethingUnique]

Kegland, is it really necessary to remove the refilling adapter from the cylinder and replace the RPV each time? Can I just leave the refilling adaptor on the cylinder without using the RPV?

[@Resignandreset]

If you have a larger bottle, just use it straight to the sodastream. You cannot EVER recharge the sodastream cartridge full, what this system do is only equalize the pressure between cylinders, which means the less gas you have on the bigger cylinders, the less it will transfer. Waste of time.

[@KegLand]

It is not necessary but removing it will speed it up.

[@JuliusPang]

@@KegLand Hi Kegland. I wish to make a complaint here. I have a 6kg cylinder purchased through your reseller Brewmart. If you leave the refilling adapter on and do not replace the RPV each time, then a slow leak occurs and you will eventually lose most of the CO2. I've only done 2 refills of a Sodastream canister. After the second refill I decided to leave the adapter in place for convenience. Imagine my surprise doing the third refill when I found the tank felt much lighter when I turned it upside down and the canister didn't refill. I suggest updating your video description to include the important steps involved in doing this refill method, with final step being "Reinsert RPV valve to prevent gas leakage".

[@KegLand]

@@JuliusPang Hello Julius. The RPV is only a small residual pressure valve and keeps a small amoutn of pressure in the cylinder and this will make no difference to leaks. The PRV is only in place to prevent contamination getting in the cylinder. If you have had the gas cylinder leak out you almost certainly did not have the black handle on the top of the cylinder valve turned off completely. There is a small chance that the valve is faulty. If you ever want to check the valve just turn off the valve and then immerse the whole cylinder in water and look for bubbles.

[@spelunkerd]

Well explained!

[@michaelcrowe1]

I’m using the smaller sodastream cylinders. The ones that make 30L of soda. The cylinder holds 270g of CO2. How many times could a 3kg cylinder fill this? Is it basically 3kg divided by 0.27kg = 11 fills? Or due to residual pressure in the main tank you only get say, 9 fills as an example?

[@KegLand]

Yes you will end up with a small amount of CO2 in the large tank but it's negligiable. You would end up very clost to 11 fills.

[@michaelcrowe1]

Thanks

[@BobReed1]

Is it possible to buy the old style Sodastream cylinder valves and change out the new style for the original style?

[@KegLand]

Yes it's possible but we now sell our own sodastream cylinders that are quite cheap so it's probably just easier to purchase the ones that we seel that are much easier to fill.

[@jewelrymaker56]

I Purchased a 20 pound CO2 cylinder tank (with dip tube) for refilling my 130 L and 60 L Carbonators. I watched your KZbin video and learned a lot. I have an adapter valve that connects to both my host cylinder and the smaller Sodastream cylinders (I've put my soda stream cylinders in the freezer prior to filling as you suggested.) I’m using a scale and never get more than four or 5 ounces into my 60L cylinders or 9oz in my 130L tanks . I’m wondering why. Any suggestions?

[@rosiefeord6600]

Is it possible you don't open the feeder CO2 cylinder anymore from the point it was opened to when you start filling your smaller cylinder? If that is the case, the back pressure in the smaller cylinder may be preventing more CO2 from the feeder from entering. I get this idea from reading @free4free68 comments. His or her comments were very enlightening.

[@scottledanse1486]

Rosie Feord I tried to open it more but didn’t hear any sound of gas filling

[@nebno6]

Credit for doing in one take.

[@KegLand]

Thanks!

[@roydaniel5642]

How do you know when the sodastream is full?

[@KegLand]

It's best to weigh the bottle before and after to confirm that you have filled it.

[@GenusBrewing]

I had a guy come in today asking for a way to do this! Do you guys happen to also have an adapter that would make the larger tank replace the soda stream instead of having to refill the smaller tank?

[@johneagle1855]

If your talking about attaching it to the soda stream yes they do. If not you can find them on the net with various hose lengths.

[@Alliec1983]

what if I've followed all the directions exact but I cannot hear the air transfering?

[@KegLand]

You may want to look at upgrading to one of the KegLand cylinders. They are much easier to fill.

[@adzsness]

how many soda stream bottle refills are people getting with a 2.6 kg cylinder

[@KegLand]

You should get about 8 if you have no wastage.

[@gdlivo3353]

@@KegLand How do you arrive at that number? A regular 60 L Soda Stream bottle (new) has a net content of 400g of liquid CO2. Assuming no waste and complete fills that means you'll potentially get 6.5 completely refilled bottles from a full 2.6 kg bottle. 8 fills would mean you're only putting 325 g into each refill, and again, assuming zero waste and 100 % empty of the donor bottle, which is not going to happen. I'd count on getting maybe 5.

[@TriXterIII]

Does the sound stop when it is full? Then weight it right? * * * Empty 425g - Empty Weight 760g - Full Weight 1185g -

[@KegLand]

The sound will stop when the pressure equalizes. As you have worked out this may or may not be full. Checking with scales is the best way to confirm fill level.

[@martinjones5965]

how do i know when receiving cylinder is as full as it's going to get?

[@KegLand]

always check the empty and full weight before and after filling.

[@phildo7915]

Is there any chance of the Sodastream bottle exploding? My local gas merchant told me not to risk filling it myself. Said there was very little give in the sodastream bottles and it could be very dangerous.

[@KegLand]

sodastream bottles are fitted with a burst disk in the valve. This burst disk is a reliable device and quite simple in it's design with no moving parts to go wrong or require maintenance. If the cylinder is overpressurised the burst disk will blow open and release the pressure from the cylinder in a controlled way. This prevents the cylinder from "exploding" The burst disk also protects the cylinder in many other instances. For instance if you leave the sodatream cylinder in your car in the sun. The car can get over 50C and if your cylinder is full it will also blow the burst disk. I am quite confident that sodastream would not sell a cylinder that would simply explode in your car if left in the sun or simply gets too hot for any reason. These failsafe features are already in place.

[@jasongreene303]

If the pressures are the same, why not connect the big bottle to the sodastream device itself? It may not be as pretty or portable, but it saves a bunch of steps and time in the long run.

[@KegLand]

Yes we do sell a hose to do that too.: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZOzl6uPZ7iInM0

[@88Nikoli]

I got rid of my soda stream as it costs heaps for bottles etc , can't carbonate juices or with the syrup in water ( recarbonating flat stuff ) I just use large cylnder into soft drink bottles very cheap can do any liquids and refill soda streem bottles to use for dispensing beer or lemonade from 2l portable system in cooler ! Cheaper and more flexible than their soda stream hose just get their soda water kit and the T and a tap and quick disconnect hose and yellow liquid cap and put tube on it !

[@julianamunoz734]

Hi, what is the difference between this adapter, and the one with manual regulators

[@KegLand]

This adaptor is use to refill the smaller soda stream bottles from a larger host bottle.

[@bluepawn]

Is it working with the new version of Sodastream Duo Gaz bottles ?

[@KegLand]

Some find it a bit difficult but our Kegland branded cylinders are super easy to refill.

[@bluepawn]

@@KegLand that doesn't infirm me if that is compatible with the new Sodastream Duo called : easy Connect

[@canadianbrewer]

I have a #20 lb. C02 tank, do I have to invert it like a small one you are using?

[@mattdellamalva7177]

interested in this info too...its a heavy thing to hold upside down for 2 minutes haha

[@KegLand]

If your cylinder has a dip tube, you do not need to invert the bottle. The cylinders that we sell do not have a dip tube and hence need to be inverted.

[@3ffrige]

I’m only listening very intently and am seriously considering refilling my 4 empty soda stream cylinders…only because the presenter is super cute and good looking

[@leperlord7078]

PS Is c02 sensitive and dangerous to store? Does the can have a shelf life? i am hoping to find somewhere to buy my own and an adapter Canadian tire gives a 16.00 Canadian, discount if i return my empty can So it`s 20.00 Canadian Is that a good deal compared to buying a much larger can and doing my own? If its somehow sensitive or dangerous i likely would not do it,as i have my grand weans here a lot Cheers

[@KegLand]

CO2 has not shelf life. As long as you follow these instructions this process is quite safe and relatively straight forward.

[@martyg374]

what about pressure difference?

[@KegLand]

What about the pressure difference?

[@johnelicker3967]

hi can you please make a adapter for the terra style soada stream cylinders

[@KegLand]

Where abouts are you located? Are you in Australia? Are the Terra cylinders being used in Australia yet?

[@johnelicker3967]

@@KegLand in honolulu hawaii

[@lampsalot]

@@KegLand Same question... do you have Terra style (quick connect) adapters for sale in the US?

[@dang2443]

So how do you know when you're done?

[@KegLand]

Weigh the cylinder after the process is complete and that is the best way to determine how much gas you have in the cylinder

[@dang2443]

@@KegLand That doesn't tell me how I know when the "process is complete"!

[@Ed1Ward]

bit confused over the RPV. You fully removed it in the video, but, your website PDF document titled " CO2 Gas Cylinder RPV Adjustment" shows how to remove, adjust it, then reinsert back into bottle. I interpret that PDF document as requiring the RPV to go back into the gas cylinder. Can you please clarify?

[@KegLand]

Yes after the fill has been completed you should insert the RPV back into the valve itself.

[@verycd]

Are all RPV removeable? You said some are round, what key to use to remove the round one?. Some adaptor has an additional piece to sit in it and push the RPV back. If all RPV are removeable, then why need that add-on pin to push it?

[@christianpaulh]

What about if, it's filled up longer than 3 minutes, won't the small cylinder be exploit?

[@KegLand]

That would not make any difference. Both cylinders are rated to the same working pressure so there is no reason why it would explode when they are connected. the only issue that you can have is if you overfill the small cylinder. If this is happens and you detach the small cylinder if the smaller cylinder doesnt have enough head space for the liquid CO2 to expand into then you can potentially blow the burst disk. for this reson it's a good idea to weigh the cylinder after the fill to confirm you have got the correct fill volume.

[@christianpaulh]

@@KegLand Thanks a lot for the safety advice. Regards :)

[@neilhamill318]

Can you use a co2 fire extinguisher to chill the sodastream cylinder.?

[@KegLand]

Yes you can if you wanted to but it's a bit of a waste of fire extinguishers.

[@bosatsu76]

I talked to a gas supplier where I live... He pointed out that it was very important to use a scale to weigh the gas, not just randomly pressurize it with whatever is in your supply cylinder... Thoughts?

[@isapsa45]

Ralph Marshall One other KZbin guy pointed out that the cylinder holds 430 g. So it’s probably a good idea to weigh the cylinder before and after and if you put more than 430 g in just bleed a little bit off

[@bosatsu76]

@@isapsa45 Weight doesn't matter... Only pressure matters... and the pressure of the donor tank does not exceed the ability of the working cylinder... Screw the cylinder onto the donor tank, open the valve slowly, let it equalize... Done...

[@cecilbrisley5185]

Pressure is dependent on how much gas is in the container and the temperature of that gas. Temperature is the same as the environment the bottle is stored in. Thus the amount of gas is the only factor to consider when filling the cylinder.

[@jeannafox4838]

Where can I get the device with the American threading (KL07160)? It isn't on your website.

[@KegLand]

Best to check with a local distributor in the US like MoreBeer or Williams Brewing.

[@billylid100]

How long does it take to fill

[@KegLand]

Not long at all once you have your technique down - a minute maybe

[@billylid100]

@@KegLand I’ll have to come down to the shop, I need a CO2 refill and some muntons kits as well