How to find the correct saddle height: Quick and easy methods you can do yourself at home

[@NYGiants4Life]

Finally found a video that gets straight to the point. I see many different one that go into extreme details of everything. We're not all pros and can't all afford bike fits, we're just trying to get an idea of where exactly we need to be positioned. Thank you for this video.

[@frankbusch3058]

1.09 method takes in account for crank arm length

[@robertandrews3055]

The knee over pedal method (KOPS) is for saddle fore and aft - - not height. Correct?

[@dadisiklista]

Would be better if you listed down all the results and have a comparison among the ways of measurement so we could see the variance.

[@stuartmclean3843]

Should measure position for both legs as 1 leg will always be slightly longer than the other

[@fixitfixation5891]

'Theta Point' (at 8:14 in the video) is a super relevant measuring point. Thanks for the well-done video!

[@josefinabacalso5180]

Method 1 always works like a charm for me. Ive been using it for years.

[@olbucky9413]

Measuring from the seat to middle of the bb ignores crank length. Of these 3 methods the first will get you closest to a starting point from which to tweak your saddle height.

[@hdebessa859]

I found this content to be very informative. Thank you for making the time in creating it.

[@ItsBugsy]

One of the best videos for this I have found - watched far too much...

[@trsdos80]

I set my seat using the LeMond method, and noticed a lot of rocking and a lot of chafing. I checked using the heel down method, and I had rock my pelvis side to side to reach? So the LeMond put my seat too high

[@gianlucapisano7314]

hello, in the first metod you dont calulate the thickness of the shoes, is it correct? with thick shoes that measurement will be very different

[@georgemacdonald5282]

Best video yet, straight to the point, thankyou

[@eugenesmith8420]

Great video. The first method is simple and straight forward. Ty for posting

[@jeffersononetwo]

Very pertinent information since I am about to tweak my saddle - many thanks

[@SYLKOLIAKOS]

The best explanatory video ever! Thank you!

[@stevestewart-sturges2159]

Other people may have done the same and multiple your inseam by .883, which equals 75.9 cm, and as measured on your bike, you are at 77.4 cm. if I use the LeMond ( Guimard, Kocheli ) method, I come up with 73.2 cm, and I feel like my knees are around my ears when I pedal. To me, my optimum height seems to be 75.5, with my Look cleats slammed back, which I have done for years, and 6.5cm setback on the saddle. It's certainly not a critique of the method or your position, merely a observation. There's so many methods of determining a bike fit but ultimately it comes down to feel, trial and error and being acutely aware of body dynamics. Cheers, mate!

[@christosandreev6392]

The 109 method is better. It takes into account the crank length and the pedal platform height.

[@mindfield9832]

Second method doesn’t take into account crank arm length.

[@kallmekaveen6060]

i had already raised my seat the time i watched this, i used the second method to check if my height was right and surprisingly it was😂😂😂thanks for the vid man

[@tunchap]

Thank you for helping out. 🙏

[@ForbinColossus]

this is the best height how-to on youtube

[@ender4903]

Regarding the method one; what if one of your heel touches the pedal while the other one can't?

[@bobfoster687]

Shim the short leg!

[@Dutcharmytent]

Really good presentation

[@eddiebellamy7605]

Isn’t the .883 multiplier method when using inches? Because it’s 10 cm shorter.

[@dan2304]

That measufrement of sear height, bb to seat top ignores the crank length, shoe height.

[@ShazirHassan]

Precise instructions 👍

[@peternicholsonu6090]

Thanks for the leg up.

[@zinwinmoe5885]

Thanks you so much for your very helpful video.

[@tefltoulouse]

shoes off.. never seen that recommended before. Leaves .883 being about 2cm higher than that. Id do it with bike shoes on. That way .883 is about 1cm higher. Hinault, when he went up to .885 (he and Genzling preferred .885 over .883) found he was 1cm higher than he was with heels method which he had been using previously. In other words, just do heels and then add 1cm? Or be a maverick like Froome and any sensible pro and do what feels best :)

[@bigeastender6174]

Surely with the heel method for height, it should be done with whatever shoes you wear to cycle, not barefoot?

[@robduncan599]

If you wear 1970s 6" platform shoes the barefoot heal measure method might be a bit off ? So yes you are right .

[@motajr2075]

My question in the lemond method is whether we should measure the height of the horse, barefoot or with cycling shoes? I've seen them do both ways.

[@adamrobinson3929]

hmm yes good point, maybe should be in cycling shoes when doing the inseam measurement ...

[@stefano5080]

Barefoot but consider that the value obtained applies to a 170mm long crank arm. If you use a 172.5 or 175 crank arm, remove 2.5mm or 5mm respectively from that value, otherwise it will be very likely that you will pedal with the foot pointing down or have physical problems (in my case sciatic nerve pain). My advice however is to stay conservative.

[@kila_whale]

Perfection, thanks.

[@GrouEEf]

The le mond method is pretty bad. It doesn't account for different crank length. The knee over pedal spindle also is complete nonsense. It usually causes people to overreach. Actually the first tip was the only valid one.

[@wg5078]

Really helpful video! Thanks

[@attybong]

lemond method does not take into account the crank length ... i'd go for the first method

[@bobfoster687]

You inseam 86 x .883 = 75.9. Much less than the 77.4 with the HOP method. 1.5 cm difference.

[@deg050607]

I just adjusted my seat lower thanks to this great video.I used your 1st method.Someone once wrote that the seat should never be higher than the handlebars.Is that true.?? Now the seat for and aft position.Someone said to ride the bike and then adjust it to where it simply feels best and should it be level or at a slight angle?? What do you think please ? Also,should the seat be adjusted slightly different based on male or female? I am a male..Thanks

[@georgefalcaru5615]

Very good!

[@colessewingcentrenotts]

Excellent - thanks

[@tentman4fun]

Touching the ground with your tippy toes not good when you come to a stop

[@futureofficer1134]

Super bro

[@MarkRiddellRacing]

KOPS is a measurement for saddle fore/aft not seat height. And it’s not even very good. Most people drops the heel when putting out over 80% power so ideally you’d be forward of KOPS.

[@mohammadzaharimohdamin6350]

Can saddle a bit lower than handle bar because my imseam is correct on the saddle using lemond formula

[@charlesshaw2708]

what is the magic of .883?!

[@markokamp]

The magic of .883 is that if you divide by .883, it ends up being exactly 1.00000000. You tell me any other number that you can do that to. Yup. None.

[@fixitfixation5891]

@@markokamp LOL - how about 1, or 2, or 3 ... etc ad infnitum (literally). Do I win a prize?

[@fixitfixation5891]

.883 x 109% is approximately .9624, which, for us mortals & non-math-geeks, is pretty much the same as "1" - so one could use the "109% method" with very similar results, and possibly (my own opinion here) even better results since your/my crank length may not be identical to Greg LeMond's - he pro-bab-lyyy rode a 170 or 172.5 crank, just guessing, and taking me for example, I ride 175's. Taking all of the variables into account, just some of which would be saddle material (compressiveness / hardness), your personal soft tissue endowment in the nethers, brand of pedal, shoe stack height, sock thickness, even down to the padding in your cycling shorts - all of these methods are a very solid GUIDE, and ultimately you'll want (as every fitting video states) to take along allen keys when you try out your new settings for actual rides. It is AMAZING how much even a 1/4 inch adjustment can make!

[@dan2304]

This is mostly BS. Centre top of seat to top of the pedal at its extention is the correct measurment. Clip board stand against a wall clipboard flat against the wall, hard into the crutch, top of clip board to floor is inseam. Multiply inseam by 1.09 for seat to pedal measurment. Better to start a little lower and move the seat up 2mm at a time till too high and adjust down.

[@futureofficer1134]

My help bro

[@christinalem9836]

Yours

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Cy

[@mrpentium]

Actually, cyclists know very little about this because they are only concerned with aerodynamics half of cyclists complaint of back injury. You should not be totally bent over or lock your leg out straight at the bottom . If you do the seat is too high, and you risk injury for the long-haul

[@evieemaya88]

2:45: method one pedal height

[@TrueBlade-1889]

And what if your crank length is 160 or 175 for the 0.833 factor ? It's a stupid way to measure seat height. Do it to the pedal base. The heel method is also pointless as it depends on the thickness and style of your shoes ... AND the length of your foot. Tsk !

[@christinalem9836]

Steven randall winner as it says in the bible

[@christinalem9836]

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