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How To Find Your Perfect Tyre Pressure | Hard Vs Soft Tyres

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@gmbn
@gmbn 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know your "Go To" Tyre Pressures?
@th_js
@th_js 5 жыл бұрын
About 15 front and about 18 back, depending on conditions
@fintutorials56
@fintutorials56 5 жыл бұрын
Global Mountain Bike Network 23 psi at back and 20 at the front
@NPlusOneBikes
@NPlusOneBikes 5 жыл бұрын
The video was a good start, but what about accounting for tire volume differences (both tire size and rim diameter). You're going to be running a lot higher pressure in a 2.1" XC tire than you are a 2.6 trail tire, or a 3.0" plus tire. I'm currently running 27.5 x 2.6" Specialized GRID casing tires (Butcher front, Purgatory rear) on 31mm rims and I'll run anywhere from 19-22 psi in the front and 20-24 psi in the rear, depending on weather, trail type and conditions. I weigh 180 lbs and riding a Whyte T-130RS.
@Harvey00Fleur2
@Harvey00Fleur2 5 жыл бұрын
i run 20 psi front and rear
@fintutorials56
@fintutorials56 5 жыл бұрын
Harvey Watt do you run tubeless or not?
@AdventuresWithClair
@AdventuresWithClair 5 жыл бұрын
Weight divided by 7 gives you a great starting point. Then plus or minus a psi or two. Also rear usually needs 2 more psi than the front. Im 175lbs and run 21 front 23 rear.
@hermask815
@hermask815 4 жыл бұрын
Had to convert all to metric. Formula still works.
@ethangould213
@ethangould213 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 120lbs
@NecumNaTo
@NecumNaTo 4 жыл бұрын
@@hermask815 How does it work in metric? 90 kg / 7 is 12,5 atmosphere, little too much?
@bowhunterpetemac
@bowhunterpetemac 4 жыл бұрын
Snap. Turns out the pressure I've been running fits your formula. Thanks for the knowledge.
@yankohristov2361
@yankohristov2361 4 жыл бұрын
@@NecumNaTo hahahha I wanna see a tyre pumped to 12.5 atm :D
@PetrHosek
@PetrHosek 5 жыл бұрын
Not a single word about tire width. Holy hell, rider weight AND tire width are the most important factors to consider. BTW 84 kg give or take, run around 26 psi front and 29 psi rear on 2.25" tubeless tires.
@DrHumorous
@DrHumorous 4 жыл бұрын
Souhlas
@andrewnelson3276
@andrewnelson3276 5 жыл бұрын
Altitude actually has a huge effect on tire pressure. When doing a large >3k ft decent, tire pressure will actually be several PSI lower at the bottom of the trail than it was at the top. This can lead to pinch flats or rim damage if not careful.
@tangerinepopgames
@tangerinepopgames 5 жыл бұрын
Tire casings make a bit difference too. For instance I am 163 lbs and ride a hard tail. When I run Racing Ralphs, hard pack I am running 22.5 front and 25 rear to 27 rear depending on the course and how twisty and rough. In sandy/loose 21 F and 23 Rear. However, Nobby Nicks on the same bike are 19 F, 20 R for most riding, or 17.5 front 18.5 rear for loose and rooty trails. That's a substantial difference between pressures and even with the lower pressure in the Nics, they still feel firmer, but much less pressure on a big hit and I feel the rim.
@withnail70
@withnail70 9 ай бұрын
I've watched numerous videos like this on tyre pressure in the three years I've been riding, initially in an attempt to avoid punctures. The concensus of experts is that harder tyres means fewer punctures, which makes sense. It also makes sense for me to have hard-ish tyres for a responsive ride, as I rarely go off road, and I'm a bit overweight. I have recently moved from an area where the cycle paths were mainly tarmac but prone to puncture hazards, to an area with lots of gritty, extremely bumpy paths, (converted from old farm tracks, industrial sites and coal waggonways). Hence, softer tyres seem a good idea, but not too soft to make pedalling difficult, pinch punctures likely, etc. What confuses me however, is the reason that every time I borrow a bike from a young person (teenage boys in our family), for my girlfriend to use, the tyres are incredibly soft. I mean, they're like putty ! 😅 Yes, these boys are lighter than me, but their tyres seem dangerously deflated, risking damage to the tyre, inner tube and rim. The boys in question regard it as 'normal' 😮. Fine, I thought. Maybe it's just a fashion, but yesterday I bought a new (reconditioned) bike from an expert, and the tyres are almost as soft as the teenage boys' ones 🤔! Can anyone explain this ? (Apart from the shop neglecting to inflate the tyres of bikes which have been on display for a while. I assume it is a choice by the expert, as all the bikes I tried were similarly underinflated).
@p199a
@p199a 5 жыл бұрын
Also keep in mind temperature. Air pressure in tire will change if you inflated it in room temperature and outside is much hotter or colder. Just google "Cold inflation pressure" and go to wikipedia page, there is table with pressure and temps.
@mentaldan666
@mentaldan666 5 жыл бұрын
I’m running tubeless, 27.5”, and weigh 68kg. I generally run 24psi front, 26 rear. That works for most of my riding. I generally ride enduro, and love the downhills too.
@phantasma2323
@phantasma2323 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel probably the best all around setting point for me. 2.5s front and rear
@lbgstzockt8493
@lbgstzockt8493 5 жыл бұрын
i usually go for 50 psi/ 4 bar because i commute over asphalt and dont want rolling resistance
@janspacek2887
@janspacek2887 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that I'm not the only one, got a little bit scared when I heard from 20 to 25 psi since I usually ride from 50 to 55. 😱😂
@Pedro_Is
@Pedro_Is 4 жыл бұрын
I ride almost with 40 psi on the rear and over 30 on the front, not tubeless
@michaelp5700
@michaelp5700 4 жыл бұрын
I do between 35 and 40 PSI. It seems like in mountain biking, people try to run the lowest possible pressure.
@williambutler1955
@williambutler1955 4 жыл бұрын
I run 50/50 on my dirt jumper. Being new it’s all trial and error for now. I weigh 190lbs and 6ft 6in. Maybe someone can direct me a lil. 50 seems a lot though
@tigerivi1977
@tigerivi1977 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I run 0 PSI, the grip is insane!
@bkiz1
@bkiz1 5 жыл бұрын
Yo, I’m 155lbs and my go to number are 20 PSI front and 23 PSI in the rear. I’m running a minion DHF WT in the front and an aggressor WT in the rear. Both tires are 2.5 on 30mm ID rims. I’ve been messing with pressures on this tire combo for about 8 months and I can say that I feel like I have maximum grip and a boat load of confidence in the corners -especially the flat corners with these pressures. ✌🏻
@buckrodgers3096
@buckrodgers3096 5 жыл бұрын
Rider weight and tyre size are probably the biggest factors in finding the right baseline tyre pressure (I'm surprised they weren't mentioned earlier in the video) Personally, I ride 26ers and run 2.25" to 2.35" tyres at about 25 PSI Front and 28 PSI Rear. I might go couple of PSI less in wet and/or muddy conditions for more grip (although I still run inner tubes so I don't like to go too low because of the risk of pinch flats), but for dry trails I might add a few PSI depending on the surface. Number 1 take-away rule (again should probably have been mentioned in the video) don't just blast your tyres up to whatever it is they say on the side of them, because most will probably say something like "30 to 60 PSI"
@gmbntech
@gmbntech 5 жыл бұрын
Good guide Martyn!
@daylightsensor8695
@daylightsensor8695 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@omfgiwantausername21
@omfgiwantausername21 5 жыл бұрын
How much do you weigh doddy? You look about the same size as I am, and I am running 30 in both my front and rear.
@jaysaventures6211
@jaysaventures6211 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do this with e-bikes
@Dolencd
@Dolencd 5 жыл бұрын
I hope it's the same person responsible for both KZbin accounts. :D Mirror high-fiving like a champion! :D
@damienbradley9209
@damienbradley9209 5 жыл бұрын
So many factors in tire pressure outside of trail conditions (temperature, rim width, 27.5/29, tire width, tubeless/tubes). On 20mm inner width tubeless 29'ers, with a 2.35" tire in the front and a 2.2" in the rear, at 67 degrees fahrenheit inside I currently set up 20 psi in the front and 24.5 psi in the rear. Very happy with front pressure, still messing with rear pressure (will lower in 0.5 psi increments and see how I like). Of course as it get colder who knows...I'm likely actually running a lower pressure as it's not quite 67 degrees outside and is getting colder
@danparry6719
@danparry6719 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a big boy - nearly 19 stone - I ride with 35 psi in the front and 40 psi at the back end! As previously mentioned I am a lump of a lad - works for me though :)
@KidFury27
@KidFury27 5 жыл бұрын
dan parry I am a hair under 18 stone and really appreciate you weighing in on this (see what I did there?) from a big guy's perspective. Thanks!
@aussie_xsf
@aussie_xsf 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning about weight coz I am 97 kg and I also run similar pressures on my 27.5 hardtail. I find that a comfortable compromise on most tracks and it depends on the weather too. I'm running smart sams 2.2 front and rear.
@billc7211
@billc7211 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 240lbs, 109kg or 17 stone, on a 29er tubeless full suspension trek fuel ex 7. I run 32 psi in back and 30 or so up front. We ride a lot of rocky terrain in Colorado. With tubes, I had to go higher psi. But it also has a lot to do with riding style. Standing and steering better on downhill sections rather than bashing through them while sitting down makes a difference.
@KidFury27
@KidFury27 5 жыл бұрын
@@billc7211 I am also in Colorado (Front Range). I will take your advice into account as well since we both likely hit some of the same trails. Thanks!
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 5 жыл бұрын
130kg, and I _never_ run less than 35 on my 26er. 40-ish is my sweet spot, feels rock hard to the hand but squishes just right when I'm riding.
@Dovakhin94
@Dovakhin94 5 жыл бұрын
Why nobody mentiones the difference between wide and thin tires? Cause there's a difference between 2.2 vs 2.6 at 25 psi for example...
@jamieedaviess9915
@jamieedaviess9915 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh I run 2.8 and 20psi is pretty hard
@mordechaismusic
@mordechaismusic 5 жыл бұрын
I discovered this too! I recently changed to 2.35 width and left the psi at 30 which was rock hard and when I brought it down to 20psi it really helped!
@RedWingsninetyone
@RedWingsninetyone 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. GCN actually did a bit on this with road tires. They found wider tires were faster on rough terrain because of their "suspension" properties at lower pressures. However, at the same tire pressure as the thinner tire, they lost all benefits of suspension and we're merely rolling on a bigger tire.
@garrettsmith8286
@garrettsmith8286 5 жыл бұрын
When comparing tire size & pressure you no longer want to compare by PSI but by tire tension. Changing the tire size means you must change your PSI to get the same tire tension. General rule of thumb bigger fatter tires can use a lower psi to get the same riding dynamics of a narrower tire with a higher psi.
@a64738
@a64738 4 жыл бұрын
Also thin rims needs higher tire pressure for same tire to not flex to much when cornering...
@LeonardVGS
@LeonardVGS 5 жыл бұрын
Im running 26" x 2.0 Maxxis Ranchero, no tubeless, my weight is 70 kg, my all terrain pressures are 35 psi front - 40 psi back. I generally ride XC
@69sound81
@69sound81 3 жыл бұрын
I use 26" x 1.95" on an XC Hardtail, my weight is about 60kg and I run 45-40 for XC, 50-45 for road use and 40-35 for trails. If it is too muddy or too wet Itend to wait for the next day to dry it out
@danielhamer8
@danielhamer8 5 жыл бұрын
17psi front and 18 rear works for me with my + sized 27.5 /3inch tyres on my Specialized Fuse hardtail 🤘🏼 Hammer
@bobschneider7544
@bobschneider7544 5 жыл бұрын
13/14 same ride
@snyper1401
@snyper1401 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Martin, I am an Arizona rider so mostly dry conditions loose over hardpack, I weigh with gear about 155lbs, I am riding a 2016 Giant Trance SX 27.5 wheels 30mm internal, Maxxis Rekon 27.5x2.6 front and rear tubeless using Stan's, I run 13psi in the front and 22psi in the rear and have had no issues. Recently rode the Whole Enchilada and Hy Masa Captain Ahab loop in Moab Utah using the same psi in the front and rear and had a great time and no issues, and the same great results in Sedona Arizona. My skill level is average.
@lorisfoucart2475
@lorisfoucart2475 5 жыл бұрын
Who always checks his pressure by hand ?
@liquidwombat
@liquidwombat 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, the legit master mechanic at my last big event (take your kids mountain biking day over 300 kids plus all the parents) Was checking tire pressure is by hand and was within one psi every time I saw someone double check him and verify it with a gauge
@JS-tb9hu
@JS-tb9hu 5 жыл бұрын
liquidwombat that’s crazy!
@Ben-hb4my
@Ben-hb4my 5 жыл бұрын
Squeeze test always best, ha
@zayjacobson7432
@zayjacobson7432 5 жыл бұрын
Used to, thought id never stop but then i won a Fabric gauge from GMBN, so now i use that.
@noelius4481
@noelius4481 5 жыл бұрын
I do. Haha
@andrewbeech6690
@andrewbeech6690 5 жыл бұрын
Tyre pressure will vary due to tubeless set up against tube set up and if you jump stuff with tubes and low pressure , risk of flatting. Easier with tough casing tyres to run lower pressure tho.
@johannesg8439
@johannesg8439 5 жыл бұрын
Tank you for also showing the pressure in Bar:D
@tigerivi1977
@tigerivi1977 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I run 0 PSI, I've got insane grip
@saxonkerr3878
@saxonkerr3878 3 жыл бұрын
facts everyone doesnt know this secret trick that would benefit everyone
@jeffspicoli5399
@jeffspicoli5399 Жыл бұрын
Yeah because I really love riding around on flat tires. But hey who am I to tell someone else how to ride a bicycle.
@AB-vt1cp
@AB-vt1cp 5 жыл бұрын
40-65 PSI is the limit specified on my tires..I stay at 50/50..Feels GOOD!!!!
@SuperUltraKel
@SuperUltraKel 5 жыл бұрын
I weigh 155lbs and on a Salsa Deadwood (120mm travel front/91mm travel rear) I am running 29x 2.5 Minion DHF front at 17psi and Aggressor 29x2.4 rear at 17 psi (both tubeless on 35mm ID rims) and I really like it. I experimented with going higher (up to about 25 psi) but I felt like I was bouncing off roots and rocks more. This seems to be my sweet spot.
@norcaltrailrides5550
@norcaltrailrides5550 5 жыл бұрын
I like 24 rear and 22 front! Tubeless Maxxis DHF's.
@tonyvandyke7588
@tonyvandyke7588 4 жыл бұрын
NorCal Trail Rides how much do you weigh?
@lewishill5978
@lewishill5978 5 жыл бұрын
Rapid robs I was running 30/35 psi front to rear all year round they felt great for speed and grip I’m currently running dhf/r2 and running 30/30 psi and the grip advantage is amazing I didn’t think it would make much of a difference but it does hope this helps out a newbie somewhere in the mountain bike world 👍🏻🤘🏻
@xx-dt8hm
@xx-dt8hm 5 жыл бұрын
I dont know where ive read this, but somewhere some Guys from an University did a test! I've always thought that higher pressure rolls faster! Well, this is true on very good Streets whitout any bumps, but even on really fine gravel fire roads this is not the case anymore! A lower pressure will have less rolling resistance because its not bumping around and shit! I really don't know how to explain it! Obviously there is a sweet spot for that also, because if you go to low the tire starts dragging as on normal streets! Great guide Martin, tire pressure is really a thing that has so much factors and you need experience to find out your perfect one! Cheers, Christoph!
@donbenincasa7442
@donbenincasa7442 5 жыл бұрын
I’m 86kg (190lbs) on a Scott Genius with 29” wheels riding in Southern California where it’s loose over hard most of the time and I run Maxxis tires (DHF 2.6 in the front and DHR II 2.6 in the rear) with 25 psi in the rear and 24 psi in the front. 25 psi is sort of the magic starting point for me at my weight and riding style (I like to go as fast as possible down hill). Good luck...Cheers!
@davehoover8853
@davehoover8853 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic. I ride in Utah and there s a lot of rock coupled with slick gravel sprinkled on hardware . Default is 22 front and 25 back. If not too rocky, I drop to 19 and 23 and love the grip. If very tech and rocky I go up to 24/26, but not often. 29’r full suspension with 2.4 Bontrager X-R 4 tubeless. Weight 185 lbs. Haven’t had a flat in two years of frequent riding.
@jdvaldivia
@jdvaldivia 5 жыл бұрын
Bike: Santa Cruz Nomad 4 Rider weight: 72kg geared up. Rims: Santa Cruz Reserve 30mm 27.5 Tubeless Front: Maxxis Minion DHF 3C Exo TR Max Terra 2.5WT, Pressure 22PSI Rear: Maxxis Minion DHRII Exo TR 2.4WT, Pressure: 25PSI Usually not going under these pressures, if it is too rocky +1 PSI on the rear
@MrTrever86
@MrTrever86 5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless only here with cushcore in the rear and a 215 lbs + lbs rider (depending on gear I have strapped to me) I find 28psi front (2.5 maxxis DHF exo casing) and 30 psi rear (maxxis 2.5 aggressor with cushcore DD casing) on 30mm rims. It works for me, and have no problem finding grip. Especially since in hard cornering I tend to exit while steering with the rear tire (hence the cushcore).
@arriero4x4
@arriero4x4 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing change! Thanks! I was riding 40psi F/R, changed to 30/28...grip improved dramaticaly, although it feels weird when cornering. I ride a very dry and hard packed terrain, with some rocks, cactus and sand pits, I am 1.89cms and 97kgs.
@draccus123
@draccus123 Жыл бұрын
Try 24 psi front and 26 psi rear, should be interesting.
@TFritz82
@TFritz82 5 жыл бұрын
27.5 x 2.8 tubeless Minion DHF front and rear with EXO casings and I'm at 19-20 front and 22 psi in the rear. I weigh around 230 lbs and this is my overall favorite setting for most of my local trail conditions! Bike is a Kona Big Honzo hardtail.
@cameronmacauley1632
@cameronmacauley1632 5 жыл бұрын
Funny that just got back from Halfords after they fixed my bike my tyres where at like 100 psi I looked mega Dogey letting them down in the car park at half 6 in the evening
@Morpheus0000
@Morpheus0000 5 жыл бұрын
What type tyres though?
@allyw7405
@allyw7405 5 жыл бұрын
I tried lowering my tyre pressure incrementally and now have a dented rim. 26” wheels, HT, 170lbs, 40 psi.
@MrStruggle0
@MrStruggle0 4 жыл бұрын
I run tire inserts so that I can actually push my hardtail
@gr8fulride
@gr8fulride 5 жыл бұрын
100 kg rekon 2.8 I ran them at 25 lbs today on a loop trail. Then 35 lbs same loop. Much faster overall with the comfortable higher pressure. The lower pressure felt like I was slower and expending more energy, but several of the trail sections were faster on the lower pressure.sandy and hardpack trail conditions. Will run 30 lbs tomorrow and I'm guessing that's the magic number
@rock0802
@rock0802 5 жыл бұрын
My go to pressure is 15.5/18.5 psi. Running 29x2.25 and I'm only 125lbs. Using a digital pressure gauge helped so much!
@juliuseiden
@juliuseiden 5 жыл бұрын
Hey , I ride lots of urban freeride so I decided to ride 3,2-3,5 bar and I'm very happy with it .
@kentmoore9563
@kentmoore9563 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks I sure appreciate everything you guys do. They have had the wheels three times trying to get them to seat.
@davejohnson3474
@davejohnson3474 5 жыл бұрын
I've just gone tubeless 2.3 maxxis high rollers and run 30psi feels pretty good.
@Muddyfox47
@Muddyfox47 5 жыл бұрын
20 psi front, 24 rear, . 2.4 tires on trail bike :)
@mojo3398
@mojo3398 5 жыл бұрын
when i converted to tubeless i filled 2.1 bar in each tyre. then i just let it roll for a few weeks, feeling more and more comfortable and finally feeling that i needed to pump the tyres up again. they where at like 1.4 bar at that time, so i filled them up to 1.75 bar, perfect! almost exactly what he sais right here ^^
@rongarrison6653
@rongarrison6653 5 жыл бұрын
I’m running a tubeless setup with 27.5/2.8 I weigh 185 and ride mostly high desert, loose over hard pack, dry and dusty. My go to pressure: Rear - Rekon 17-18psi Front - DHF 16psi Great ride. Great grip. No flats!
@MissingLinkMTB
@MissingLinkMTB 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 250lbs and found I really need a bit more air for climbing efficiency. Went up a bit more than I thought I'd need (around 30) but climbing is much easier and cornering is still good. Had to find the sweet spot between that.
@jaja5.
@jaja5. 4 жыл бұрын
I will usually guide the pressure based on small rocks and stones on the ground, If i feel the stone, I usually turn the pressure down.
@crosstraining1701
@crosstraining1701 4 жыл бұрын
Great video I rock crawl with Jeep it’s all about tire pressure I run 7-10 psi going up loose gravel or slick surfaces. Same on a bike. Just not as low.
@rokkrumpestar2073
@rokkrumpestar2073 5 жыл бұрын
On my 27.5+ aggressive hardtail, I have got front 14psi and back 15psi, and It works great.
@hobidolap
@hobidolap 5 жыл бұрын
Rok Krumpestar whats your weight?..
@rokkrumpestar2073
@rokkrumpestar2073 5 жыл бұрын
@@hobidolap round 73kg
@clock1e368
@clock1e368 5 жыл бұрын
Oh jesus
@filipkoivuniemi1742
@filipkoivuniemi1742 5 жыл бұрын
When i had a plus bike i had 6 psi front and 9 psi back. But i way only 60 kg and here where i live there is only xc type trails.
@W1DO
@W1DO 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't keep my rear inflated and on the rim below 23psi even when taking it easy
@jakeoz6053
@jakeoz6053 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I ride 23 front 21 back. Front range of Colorado (Golden). If climbing loose rocks (Like parts of green mtn) I drop a PSI in the rear to reduce tire slide.
@publicmichaelzmit
@publicmichaelzmit 5 жыл бұрын
Here's a tip I once got that have worked fine for me on any type of bike, except for riding velodrome track: Place your bike on a flat hard surface (floor). Inflate your tyres to the max recommended pressure (usually found on the sidewall of the tyre). Get a piece of paper, stand it on the edge on the floor at the contact point between tyre and floor and make a mark on the paper where the transition from tyre to rim is. Divide the paper, from standing edge to mark in eight equal parts (fold it in half three times). Do this for both front and rear. Then mount the bike (in riding position) and have an assistant let out air of the tyres until they have both sunk one eighth of fully inflated height. Dismount your bike and measure the pressure. This should give you the optimal starting point for experimentation.
@victorbosch9855
@victorbosch9855 5 жыл бұрын
Good explanation Martyn!! I run 17 psi on the front, 30mm inner rim with maxxis minion dhf 2.5wt and 23/24 psi on the rear 30mm inner rim maxxis agressor 2.3 Of course tubeless, my terrain was rocky and very dry, Im 86 kg and run a 140mm front & rear 2016 Canyon Spectral.
@Gbenc123
@Gbenc123 5 жыл бұрын
Riding on tubes after 4+ yrs in the game. I use 21psi front and 22psi rear for both my bikes. Our trails are closed in wet conditions so that’s for a mostly dry trail with hardpack or loose over hard conditions.
@Gbenc123
@Gbenc123 5 жыл бұрын
29er 2.6 front 2.35 rear with tubes. 27.5 x 2.8s tubeless on the other
@tonyvaccarelli7950
@tonyvaccarelli7950 Жыл бұрын
23 rear, 20 up front at @ 175 lbs riding wieght, DHRII 29×2.4 , and Assegai 29×2.6 on my 2021 Scott Ransom 920
@jaykan1002
@jaykan1002 5 жыл бұрын
riding style, tire compound, tread compound,, weather, etc are all fantastic points! But I do think it misses out one of the most important if not THE single most important variable.... weight of the rider. ALL ELSE REMAINS EQUAL, a 120lb rider should not be riding same pressure as someone 240lb. There's simply less force compressing down on the tires (Force = Mass X Acceleration) For reference, I am 134lb (61ish kg), I run 19psi front, 21 psi rear on 2.35 Maxxis minions DHF and DHRII. I drop down to 17.5/19.5 during wet/winters snow rides or raise it to 21/23 for ROCKY trails but my grip does become significantly worst. Hope this helps!
@brentf7357
@brentf7357 5 жыл бұрын
I weigh 190 lbs with a riding pack and run 24 psi in my front tire and 26 psi in the rear. This is a tubeless setup on dry trails with 2.4 Bontrager XR4's installed on Bontrager line comp 30 wheels (29mm internal). Hope this helps!
@edrcozonoking
@edrcozonoking 5 жыл бұрын
Stan's No tubes site has a handy chart based on rider weight. I think it's spot on.
@MOWPgames
@MOWPgames 5 жыл бұрын
On my old 27.5 XC hardtail I typically rode on about 28-30 F and 30-32 rear, (2.2” width) which typically worked for me. On my new enduro rig, still 27.5 I run 18-20 F and 22-24 rear on 2.4” F and 2.3” R Maxxis minions. I weigh 65kg and seems to work pretty well for me. Normally pretty dry conditions where I live
@johncarrington8612
@johncarrington8612 5 жыл бұрын
Lower pressures give more rolling resistance so it makes climbing more difficult. If you climb a lot on your rides you might want to bump up the pressures.
@draccus123
@draccus123 Жыл бұрын
Actually not true at all, lower pressure gives more grip because the tire conforms more to the terrain it's rolling over. Too low pressure will end p slowing You down, but lower end tire pressure might actually help You out on technical climbs where grip is paramount. Rolling resistance is mainly dictated by the tire itself and the casing inside it (if the tire is inflated in the reasonable pressure range).
@riammey
@riammey 5 жыл бұрын
I have thick sidewalls and run 35 psi in both front and rear, I'm riding a downhill bike but don't use it to race as much, I use it for jumps and have a harder tire pressure tends to not deform as much on the lip of a jump as much as normal tire pressure, I like running this set up because when you dabble in freeride you tend to like to roost a lot and having less traction with more tire pressure is kind of fun
@JeffSheridanTheReal
@JeffSheridanTheReal 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Happy to see GMBN getting back to the shorter but informative videos.
@JP1THUG
@JP1THUG 4 жыл бұрын
27.5 x 2.6 tyres. 20psi front 22psi rear.. perfect for my local trails. Absorbs all the fine stone and gravel chatter. 160mm travel deals with the rest.
@lennyosborne5473
@lennyosborne5473 5 жыл бұрын
I like those videos where Martyn explains things with more scientific words, and how things really work! It’s interesting!
@st2en
@st2en 4 жыл бұрын
I’m on 29” x 2.3” and my weight is 96kg. I ride with 24 psi on both front and back. The reason I don’t have higher pressure on the rear is that while I have around 60% of the total bike/rider weight on the rear wheel while rolling/pedaling, most of the weight is actually transferred to the front wheel during braking.
@barclayholmes5982
@barclayholmes5982 5 жыл бұрын
My 29er full suspension came with the WTB Prowler SL 2.1 inch tires with a recommended low of 35psi which is hard as a rock and almost no flex or grip. Maybe that number is for roadies, no offence. I gradually lowered them to my sweet spot of 25psi rear and 23 in the front. I am running tubes and they are nowhere near coming off the rims or pinching. I ride fairly hard on rocky rooty rutty stuff but rarely get more than 2 feet off the ground. My max speeds on such terrain rarely exceeds 26mph, usually under 20mph, probably average about 12mph. If I jumped much higher than that it may become an issue but I try my best to keep it on the ground most of the time. Great vid, keep up the good work.
@angelocordero5661
@angelocordero5661 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I try a few different tire pressure. 26 rear 24 front on 29's it also helps to start out on spec and go down on your psi until one feels comfortable going up and down hill I'm a trail rider so that's how I started out.- Utah Rider
@ovenstone1
@ovenstone1 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 1.75m and 72kg. I run 1.7bar in front tyre and 1.8bar on the rear. Bike works perfect for me. Do a lot of long rides with trails and the odd occasions of ramps and drops. Never had a problem
@Niko-xt5bs
@Niko-xt5bs 4 жыл бұрын
25psi front 30psi rear I wheigh 55kg tubeless set up, 27.5 Minion dhf 2.35 front agressor 2.3 in rear, on a hardtail
@gr0undrush
@gr0undrush 4 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! I ride an almost identical set up to yours (tyres and pressure) only with a DHR rear too and a full sus. Only I weigh 100kg. I reduced both tyres by about 3psi the other day as it was so wet and sloppy and it helped loads. Increase both by about 5psi for jumping though. I
@dev_IL666
@dev_IL666 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!! Definitely helpful to some people to get an idea. If anyone is my size about 5'10 200 pounds and I wear full gear since I do more enduro/freestyle type of riding and parks. I'm at 28 psi in the rear and about 25 psi in the front. Dont forget the weight of gear you where and if your wearing a hydration backpack or fanny pack.
@noahwilson2719
@noahwilson2719 4 жыл бұрын
I weight 145lbs, run 2.35 nobby nic with 18psi up front and a 2.25 rocket Ron with 20psi rear. I am in Florida with lots of sand content in the soil. When I get near more hardpack I adjust up 2-4psi and if on jump lines I adjust up to around 25-27psi
@jossovh
@jossovh 2 жыл бұрын
70kg rider on 26x4.4. I usually ride with 300 grams up front and 450 grams in the rear tire for dry conditions. In the wet, 200/300 or lower.
@ChrisWilliams-rt8ic
@ChrisWilliams-rt8ic 5 жыл бұрын
I’m 73 kg. All bikes are 29ers. Pump a Topeak joe blow sport. All rims bar xc are 26mm internal. Xc rims 21 ID. A digital pressure gauge reads about 6psi lower than the joe blow sport. On xc hard tail with bontrager xr2 2.2 120tpi xc tyres 22F/28R. On trail single speed with 2.3 exo minions. 23F/27R. 26mm rims. On trail single speed with rigid fork and schwalbe snakeskins in winter filth (2.35F/2.2R), 18F/25R. On full sus with 2.3 minion DD, 21F/25R.
@garrettsmith8286
@garrettsmith8286 5 жыл бұрын
When comparing tire size & pressure you no longer want to compare by PSI but by tire tension. Changing the tire size means you must change your PSI to get the same tire tension. General rule of thumb bigger fatter tires can use a lower psi to get the same riding dynamics of a narrower tire with a higher psi.
@eliasdanieli5461
@eliasdanieli5461 5 жыл бұрын
On a hardtail it is very important to go tubeless at least in the back if you want grip and reliability, with tubes you don't get that. (I ride on rocky terrain and very often get pinch flats in the rear even with 30 psi)
@timlewis954
@timlewis954 4 жыл бұрын
26 in rear........23 in front. I'm going to try 25R 22F. About 210 Lbs loaded up. Thanks for the info.
@nandvunltdentmt
@nandvunltdentmt 5 жыл бұрын
Mine is 27.5 with 29psi front and 30psi rear its the perfect pressure
@kuuupe3641
@kuuupe3641 3 жыл бұрын
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@W1DO
@W1DO 5 жыл бұрын
Same go to pressures as dodgy doddy. I weigh 100kg. Rear pressure is set to save tyres and rims (can drop to 26 on smoother surfaces or go up to 30 if riding fast on square edge rocks) front starts at 24 and drops to 22 or goes up to 25 in rocks. I always use dual ply casings or equivalent. I've been racing dh since the 90s and enduro since it was invented. When I'm down at 90kg I drop pressures more. A Digital pressure gauge is great!
@yanmills
@yanmills 5 жыл бұрын
I ride a lot of slat & rocky trails but found running low P.S.I in my tyres was not good. I ripped the side wall out of 2 rear tyres on the same single track with 26 P.S.I to get the grip so i now run a vitoria airliner in the rear & run anything from 26 P.S.I to 30 P.S.I in the rear depending on the trail i am riding. in the front i stay with 28 P.S.I & as I am 100 KG with all my kit on it works for me.
@xarnii
@xarnii 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, I've been riding on 2.1-2.3 Bar for over a year now because I thought thats what you do^^ Got to change that for my next ride and check if I can improve my skills :)
@tommyestrada6464
@tommyestrada6464 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 245 lbs, and running 35mm internal width rims with 2.6 Maxxis tires and run 18psi front and 22 rear, it seems low to me but that's where it feels the best so far.
@mouseamillion
@mouseamillion 5 жыл бұрын
High Roller 2's. exo casing. Tubes. 28 rear, 25 front. Never had a puncture on the trail. I weigh a midges nut sack over 12 stone. Riding natural lake District trails, trail centres, bike parks and sweet, sweet loam.
@edman1074
@edman1074 5 жыл бұрын
I run tubeless 27.5"+ and I use 22 psi up front and 28 psi at the back
@StupidisStupidoes
@StupidisStupidoes 5 жыл бұрын
24 psi front and 20 psi in the rear, tubeless with Victoria airliner in the rear to aid in reducing burping the tyre, have been known to go as low as 16
@MrMikey1703
@MrMikey1703 5 жыл бұрын
GDay guys, Thanks for this great video. I’m just getting back into the sport and this was really helpful - until you said the bit about “unless you are a heavier rider”. I’d class myself as that, at 110 kgs, but do you? What is heavier, and at what tyre pressures should someone at my weight start playing around at? Cheers
@andrewsadventures5089
@andrewsadventures5089 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. I myself am a heavier rider at 106 kgs. I have been riding for a few months now, but I have been running around 35 + or - psi, and that has seemed to work pretty good so far.
@MntRprznt
@MntRprznt 5 жыл бұрын
On my freeride bike with 2.35 tyres I go like that: 3-3.5 bar for asphalt, 2.2 bar for singletracks, 1.8 bar for hardcore terrain. Im 80 kg, bike is 22 kg. Dont go below 2 bar if you're not tubeless. Bars are easier to remember for me, as they equal atmospheric pressure.
@ApologeticaHispanista
@ApologeticaHispanista 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, great video . I used 30 psi in both tires of my HardRock sport Specialized 26R.
@DazzaOnGoogle
@DazzaOnGoogle 4 жыл бұрын
Tyre width makes a big difference too. Moving from 2.1 x26 to 2.35 29er I've dropped nearly 10psi. Less than 30 on the 26 would pinch flat all the time. 25 on the 29er seems a good start point. I think that the physics says doubling the width halves the required pressure
@keane2c
@keane2c 5 жыл бұрын
Running Minions front and rear 29er front around 26psi and rear 28-30psi always feel pretty good in all conditions.
@johnjohannemann536
@johnjohannemann536 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 61 years of age and weigh 107KG. I ride a 2016 Trek Marlin 5 with Continental Trail Kings. I run 32 PSI IN YHE FRONT AND 30 PSI in the rear. For my weight and riding skill this works well for me.
@rubenconzales9718
@rubenconzales9718 5 жыл бұрын
Tyre design effects the minimum pressure as well. Stronger side walls let you drop the pressure a bit more without rolling under the rim when cornering, so does some inserts. All at the cost of more weight.
@draccus123
@draccus123 Жыл бұрын
I Ride a 2022 Dartmoor Primal Pro 27.5 Hardtail. Assegai Exo+ 2.6 1.5 bar in the Front, and Aggressor 2.5 Exo 1.8 bar in the Rear. I weigh 85 kg and I'm 183 cm tall.
@andyginther8562
@andyginther8562 5 жыл бұрын
20 psi front and rear. 26’ running dhr and high roller II. Maxxis freeride tubes, that’s right, tubes. Tubes are 3-4 yrs old. Couple pin hole patches but never an issue. Ran psi for years by feel before putting digital gauge on it. If it aint broke...
@everydaymtb4218
@everydaymtb4218 5 жыл бұрын
That was great. I've been wanting to see a video just like this for years.
@blacklangster1141
@blacklangster1141 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, so recently I’ve been riding a hardtail DJ and I noticed my tire pressure was sub-15 psi! This is a tubed setup and I’m surprised I didn’t puncture my tube. (My weight is 113 lbs) so I raised it to 25psi. I’m reconsidering and think I’ll go with a in-the-middle; 20 psi. This is for mixed trails of DH and XC (yes I know a DJ is terrible for both of those but I need to ride these trails to get to the dirt jumps😂
@TheAngryHusky
@TheAngryHusky 5 жыл бұрын
I run 24/27 typically, but also run 25/29 a lot. I'm a heavier clydesdale rider.I've experiemented with lower pressures but the bike was too squirmy and I even had a rear tire come off the bead before at 21 psi on a hard landing. Bike is a 2017 Remedy and I typically run a 2.5 Minion front and either a 2.5 minion dhr rear or a 2.4 bontrager xr4 rear.
@peacefulgoon3958
@peacefulgoon3958 5 жыл бұрын
Is this is a coincidence or #gmbn knows what I'm looking forward for 👏👏👏 hats off great video ! I go with 25 on both side
@dickononfilm
@dickononfilm 4 жыл бұрын
That'd be a segueway you're riding then 🤣
@danielfoster2581
@danielfoster2581 5 жыл бұрын
I’m 185 pounds and ride a plus size hardtail with 19 psi in the front and 21 in the back, for aggressive trail riding and some downhill
@MrRay645
@MrRay645 5 жыл бұрын
just an FYI but use the same gauge for testing. I have 3 pumps and 2 gauges and they are all off each other by several PSI, doesn't have to be accurate just use one so you are consistent. Cant see sharing recommended pressures working out well, sidewall stiffness, volume, type of trail, rider weight, type of bike, how you ride, and how willing or not you are to dinging your rims :)
@schloemo
@schloemo 5 жыл бұрын
23 front (minion dhf 2.5) and 27 rear (aggressor 2.3). I weigh 170 geared up. I’d add that it’s important to check your pressure with a good gauge - the gauge on the pump is wrong!
@notice_fpv
@notice_fpv 5 жыл бұрын
Fatbike, tubeless 26x4" 10-12 psi for trails (condition dependant). 8-10 psi for snow, 20psi for the morning commute. I'm 225lbs.
@andyturner6815
@andyturner6815 4 жыл бұрын
So got a new Calibre triple B... went to FoD. Added tyre pressure. From reading the tyre case I said 20-65 PSI. So I pumped up my tube to 60PSI. Recently had a big crash on my local trail. No wonder I’ve had to grip. Whoops
@jontait2843
@jontait2843 5 жыл бұрын
The answer is 42.
@hermask815
@hermask815 4 жыл бұрын
For my weight that number of psi is pretty matching.
@johnshaw8013
@johnshaw8013 4 жыл бұрын
Tee hee! Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy reference for all those younger than 40 that missed it!
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