How to fit a new quartz watch movement. Watch repair techniques. ETA 251.262 chronograph

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@Fireship1
@Fireship1 8 жыл бұрын
Your voice is very soothing. Reminds me of the artist bob Ross that used to paint on tv. I've learned a lot watching your videos. Thanks for posting them.
@hoppysport2872
@hoppysport2872 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks so much! The ETA 251.262 quartz movement is really nice. I've been a manual wind and automatic person for life...but just bought a Victorinox Titanium 241261 Chronograph. Looks similar to an Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch, which I also own. I would say that the case and bracelet quality are about the same. The 251.262 movement is truly a well-made, quality, precision instrument. Very accurate and precise. The chronograph has many more functions than the Omega...including split time.
@elenagaitan6327
@elenagaitan6327 2 жыл бұрын
899ⁿ
@christinahaydel3191
@christinahaydel3191 7 жыл бұрын
That is the right video for anyone who wants to find out about this topic. You notice a lot its virtually onerous to argue with you (not that I actually would wantHaHa). You definitely put a new spin on a topic thats been written about for years. Great stuff, simply great!
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 11 жыл бұрын
That's a fantastic skill to have. You're very talented. The movements do not come with useable hands - you can order them based on the calibre of the movement quite easily. The stem will have a plastic crown screwed on - you would need to replace it of course, they are usually Tap 9 stems. If the stem is too short for your project then you can obtain stem extensions. Hope this helps.
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 11 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, it's a regular pair of end cutters where I have filed a groove in the jaws so as not to damage the pin. A pair of snipe nose pliers will do the same job.
@MrManny075
@MrManny075 7 жыл бұрын
I guess you forget to put back the label in the center.
@express375
@express375 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark,that is a real help.I might have gotten there eventually,but would probably bought stuff i didn't need.Now I have a better idea what to order.
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 11 жыл бұрын
No this should not be a problem at all. These movements are designed to have a metal dial fitted to them, wether silver or brass it does not matter, you should be fine. Sounds like a great project :)
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 11 жыл бұрын
There are two catches which slide out opposite each other - these secure the dial. They are hinged so slide out to release - push back in to secure.
@greatvedas
@greatvedas Жыл бұрын
thanks for this detailed video. A few questions. 02:00 Just like winder, there are 2 other buttons/knobs. Don't you need to remove any thing before pulling caliber out? 03:23 what holds the dial to caliber? movement ring screws is it? 03:45 what are those 2 pins you are pushing? Thanks in advance
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate :) Nothing every goes to waste in this business -- some of the parts on the old movement are still useful. By the way - Cousins announced last year that ETA was going to stop supplying circuit boards for their quartz movements, you can still get them but they are officially showing as restricted. This makes me mad!
@andyseamaster
@andyseamaster 4 жыл бұрын
Great job, as usual. I wonder why you didnˋt swap the central bridge signed Maurice Lacroix of the old movement to the new one.
@reignsamir5442
@reignsamir5442 3 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: watch movies on Flixzone. I've been using them for watching loads of movies lately.
@armandocrew401
@armandocrew401 3 жыл бұрын
@Reign Samir Yup, I've been using Flixzone} for since december myself :)
@mnpd3
@mnpd3 11 жыл бұрын
I'm no watchmaker, but experienced and tooled enough to be confident in swapping movements. The only ticklish things I run into are the stem and face removal. Seems the different makers have figured out an infinite number of ways to attach - and remove - both. Removal can be anything from screwing, to prying, to lifting, to depressing, pinching... etc. Once you know a certain model it's a cinch, but I've been known to remove the wrong thing on occasion.
@fossfix
@fossfix 6 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for all your videos, fantastic easy to follow very well done,
@express375
@express375 11 жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for. I've been learning hand engraving for just over a year,and engraved the case of a watch I had lying around.It occurred to me that I could make a silver dial,and engraved that. Would there be a problem in the dial being silver for some movements.IE short out the works?
@markonemusic
@markonemusic 4 жыл бұрын
I have that exact watch! It's still in rotation with my Omega manual and auto watches and my micro brand manual. Still like it in a sort of Late 90s vibe.
@vl7920
@vl7920 4 жыл бұрын
Same here my watch need the movement 251.262 to be replaced split second getting crazy or maybe just a battery change?
@joseph_b319
@joseph_b319 8 жыл бұрын
I loved that little trick of the trade technique to remove the hands.
@Memyselfandvan
@Memyselfandvan 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Mark, could you tell me what red coloured tool you used to pull out the bracelet pin after you pushed the pin partially out? Thanks.!
@mnpd3
@mnpd3 11 жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of the "makeshift" hands which accompany many new movements... other than to use them for the intended purpose if you don't happen to have your own?
@gwynnus
@gwynnus 8 ай бұрын
Can I replace the date wheel with one that's at 4 o'clock but straight (as opposed to slanted)?
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 11 жыл бұрын
Every movement has a calibre number and this is either on the circuit board or on the bottom plate (chassis) usually. You may need a magnifying glass to locate this. If you get stuck then post a pic on my website forum and we may be able to identify it for you.
@thezapsback
@thezapsback 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, i would like to ask why did you prefer replacing the movement instead of repairing? Isn't it worth to do so or is it unrepairable? and if you had to pick the Seiko 7ax8 or this movement in terms of quality, which one would you choose? Thank you.
@paulwilson3434
@paulwilson3434 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark. You are a real gem 💎
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 11 жыл бұрын
I agree. It's a pain in the a*** sometimes. I will make a video showing my method of fitting a new stem soon - you will be surprised how easy it really is ;)
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 11 жыл бұрын
No - not reverse threaded.In many instances (not all) the screw will have three slots instead of one and this will indicate it is reverse threaded. Most often it will be the intermediate ratchet wheel and perhaps the ratchet wheel. Hope this helps.
@afoster1621
@afoster1621 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask if quartz modernish Rotarys like Elite are a bit poor in your opinion ? I worked out I need a Ronda 785 movement for faulty Elite, just getting no quartz pulse at all. I don't have a great watch collection but other than this watch work having owned most for decades - recently making even some really old ones work in the process. Like a really old Accurist in base metal fake gold (date at 3 and an alarm function lol) now works after some tinkering, and the rest of my odd collection, an Yves Renoir in base metal fake gold, fake Rolex Yacht master automatic, Swatch Torino 2006, Fiesta Bowl 1984 ( US watch!) and even a mechanical Molnija old CCCP wind up pocket watch. Makes me think Rotary are a bit crap.
@ivancapuz9471
@ivancapuz9471 6 жыл бұрын
Can i put a different eta movement from tissot quickster like a better eta movement?
@haping1
@haping1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'll try it myself. Repairing or oiling the movement costs me more:) - ETA 955.412
@cgullcharlie
@cgullcharlie 10 жыл бұрын
Mark, the new eta movement has a black plastic winder on the stem. How do I remove that plastic winder as I need to use the new stem as my old stem rusted and snapped after too much surfing.
@karpkarpkarp5
@karpkarpkarp5 4 жыл бұрын
Can I change a quartz movement brand to another brand of movement. ie; Changing a Timex movement to a more reliable movement such as Ronda, Seiko etc. Thanks in advance.
@primoyliaster4148
@primoyliaster4148 4 жыл бұрын
What are the mechanical diferrence between the ETA 251.262 & 251.264? Are they the same or are they diferrent?
@primoyliaster4148
@primoyliaster4148 4 жыл бұрын
Does the ETA 251.264 gearbox function just like the ETA 251.262 which is in this watch?
@lhassall77
@lhassall77 11 жыл бұрын
What was the issue with the movement? Stuck chrono hands? I've found that given some constant agitation (hold down the relevant button in re-alignment mode) they eventually start to wiggle and then free-off. Seen this on multiple Swatch's, simply down to a lack of use.
@auxmike
@auxmike 11 жыл бұрын
How did the dial come off? You show two pins being pushed in after reinstalling the dial.?
@auxmike
@auxmike 11 жыл бұрын
Also, are those watch ring screws with washers reverse threaded?
@arbiterofreason2068
@arbiterofreason2068 5 жыл бұрын
Man this old intro is really doing it for me!
@fuzzs8970
@fuzzs8970 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Thank you. Where can you get eta movement?
@bodeine454
@bodeine454 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative, thank you! 👍
@edlitwak2857
@edlitwak2857 3 жыл бұрын
I replaced a quartz movement in an Elgin watch, PC32, the watch runs and randomly stops. When I reset the watch it will run again. The movement was $8.00 to buy and I expect at the price that is what to expect?
@deebee3901
@deebee3901 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful work!
@stlyeshooter
@stlyeshooter 2 жыл бұрын
What is the total cost to replace a crono alarm quartz ISA 8154 movement. My watch maker is quoting $24O plus $35 shipping
@MrSenorhappy
@MrSenorhappy 11 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!! Awesome skills and great tools that you use :) Thank you
@dvcavall
@dvcavall 5 жыл бұрын
On my Bulova, which is the first watch I have ever tried this, I can not seem to get the small chrongraph hands on. The hands on more expensive movements look like they line up easily. This watch has an inexpensive movenent with a lot of slop. Getting the hollow extension (pinion)on the bottom of the hand to go over the tiny watch pinion has proven impossible for me so far. I got close using rodico as i could keep the hand parallel (impossible with tweezers), but the rodico pulled the hand back off. Ahhh. Any tricks or suggestions?
@rabbithole797
@rabbithole797 10 жыл бұрын
I have a mens Timex which was working til I opened and tried to change battery. Now the second hand spins freely and the watch does not work even with battery in. I don't know what happened. Any advice? I want to get a watch kit of tools and fix myself. Thanks for any direction at all if you have a moment.
@abdallahalmohummad5223
@abdallahalmohummad5223 4 жыл бұрын
Question! How do i know which movment have my watch to buy one and eplacet by my self?
@sinjon
@sinjon 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the song in the beginning of this? It sounds like an actual popular song
@Stormf0rce999
@Stormf0rce999 11 жыл бұрын
Hi my watch needs a new movement (local watch reapir shop want to charge £45 for replacement) How do I order the exact replacement for my existing watch? After watching your vid I think I could do it myself. Great videos btw.
@sydbell8508
@sydbell8508 7 жыл бұрын
Good video as usual,but what is " wiv "
@AlexandruIonCristian
@AlexandruIonCristian 11 жыл бұрын
You are an artist :)
@jringo8769
@jringo8769 10 жыл бұрын
hey any videos showing how to fix that non working movement?.
@douro20
@douro20 10 жыл бұрын
I once worked on a snap-back watch whose back was so snug that It was quite imposssible to replace without a press. Luckily the watch had a flat crystal; if it were domed, it would had been necessary to remove the crystal to prevent it from being damaged!
@Krisler12
@Krisler12 10 жыл бұрын
Watch Repair Channel Please show to me a quartz watch which its step is shorter than 1 second so that when it should be 14:00 it is 14:01. Its quartz step is faster than it should be so that after a few hours it is +35 seconds or more. On a mechanical watch you fix it on its mechanism but on a quartz watch how do you fix it ? Thanks in advance !
@gracesmith9611
@gracesmith9611 7 жыл бұрын
Krisler12 nice
@pravinkansara965
@pravinkansara965 10 жыл бұрын
Are these kind of movements repairable or is it cheap to replace them new
@uchihasasuke7436
@uchihasasuke7436 10 жыл бұрын
Cheaper to just replace
@GoldTopPoland
@GoldTopPoland 6 жыл бұрын
They are repairable .. but it is easier to replace. The customer will pay 200 Euro. It is more sensible to earn 100 Euro in 15 minutes than think to earn 195 Euro in half a day and..it will not always work
@lordkayx
@lordkayx 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Seiko digital/analog watch i adore, but I dont know where I can find a movement for it since its from the 80s. Any suggestions?
@stevenrothwell3824
@stevenrothwell3824 5 жыл бұрын
Check cousins UK. They have extensive search parameters though it helps to know the model of the movement you are looking for
@12000peak
@12000peak 9 жыл бұрын
I really need your HELP!!!..Hope you will reply me with an answer…I have a men CITIZEN 21 JEWELS CALIBER 8203A AUTOMATIC MOVEMENT STAINLESS STEEL BACK CASE, SERIAL NO. 740245 diver watch which was working til one day its stop after maybe an hour its works again and stop again so I hand wind about 40 times and the second moves but when I hand shake it the hour hand spins freely I don't know what happen. Any advice? Do you think something is wrong with the movement. also can you tell me what other MIYOTA movement will fit this watch and do they still make the 8203A movement anymore? Thank you!!
@Flosim91
@Flosim91 11 жыл бұрын
I love your work and your videos!!!I wish I was as good as you!!! :)
@lhassall77
@lhassall77 9 жыл бұрын
Would be useful to see a full strip down and rebuild of one of these now that ETA will soon stop supplying movements/parts. Like most ETAs the hands get sticky from lack of use and dried up oil. In those cases a splash of oil on the jewels/pivots usually frees them up without disassembly.
@serendra90210
@serendra90210 Жыл бұрын
Great video. 🤗
@AhuCJ
@AhuCJ 10 жыл бұрын
I have a swatch irony black with a tachymeter..... If I go to swatch repair centre, they ask a lot of money.. I dont know how to access the movement and see for any repairs :( is there any way?
@ricardoargomaniz2604
@ricardoargomaniz2604 6 жыл бұрын
Swatch makes a unibody watch case, with no backplate. so it's impossible for you to access the movement. Thats why it's so expensive to repair a swatch. Bottom line, on SWATCH watches you can only change the battery yourself. the movement it's impossible to access
@fabioconsonni3232
@fabioconsonni3232 6 жыл бұрын
@@ricardoargomaniz2604 not really: look here kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2rLnYFtrcaXb9U
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 11 жыл бұрын
They are just called hand fitting tools as far as I am aware. Search for BERGEON 7404 or BERGEON 5378 :)
@express375
@express375 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I don't think I would have to much trouble making the dial,and I think I would need to solder some pins on to attach the dial to the moment, but the ones I've seen for sale on ebay,don't come with hands,and have a plastic winder.I presume they are for replacing the original. I may end up engraving another watch using the original movement on another stainless steel watch I have and . Then it's onto my TAG!! You can see some web cam vids of me engraving the first watch on my channel:)
@atomcross1363
@atomcross1363 10 жыл бұрын
hello there, i have an interest in horology budding from receiving my grandfathers Hamilton .742 ESA 963 121 movement. It is a quartz six jewel. i watched your video on removing crowns, but it doesn't seem to fall into any of the types you covered.
@lhassall77
@lhassall77 9 жыл бұрын
Atom Cross That movement does have a stem release, there should be an arrow on the circuit board pointing to the small hole through which you should see a release button.
@timepasschanneltimepasscha180
@timepasschanneltimepasscha180 6 жыл бұрын
You are great sir thanks☺☺
@jackMcRyder
@jackMcRyder 9 жыл бұрын
"lovett", this video taught me how to remove the winder . first result. Now if you could only share if the hands need to be at 12 o'clock to " unlock" and be removed : and how exactly you did break the hands or axles while removing them hands..
@dcweather7130
@dcweather7130 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent video and one of the nicest clear speaking voices I have heard on an instructional video.
@Martino-007
@Martino-007 9 жыл бұрын
How do you know it's exactly midnight when the date moves over? Might seem a daft question but I've seen watches with the date not fully gone over until past midnight. Similar to the date starting to move before midnight.
@nandutzu
@nandutzu 8 жыл бұрын
+Dragon Ma I thought exactly the same initially, but think about it a bit: in the cases you mentioned that was just the way they were assembled/set, in this case here the watch has been set almost perfectly(the date changes at exactly 12am). So it doesn't really matter how it was before.
@RJSoftware2000
@RJSoftware2000 10 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I can restore a quartz by soaking the movement in lighter fluid. Then take and dry it with hair dryer -low heat. What it sometimes does is free up the coagulated oil and allow the hands to turn. It does nothing to the chip or the dial and leaves no residue. But it does create the need to lubricate as it sucks up all the oil. Personally I don't even care to lube a quartz as by design it has near zero pivot wear. Disposable anyway. Do you ever grease the gasket and the o-ring of the stem? Sometimes it helps to make watch more water proof. Nice video, much appreciated. Btw, you sure do move fast...! (joke) RJ
@jringo8769
@jringo8769 10 жыл бұрын
impressive work....thank you for the detailed video really helped...God Bless
@mandafajry3998
@mandafajry3998 4 жыл бұрын
is this machine can not just change the IC ?
@MrSloika
@MrSloika 10 жыл бұрын
Good, informative video. Thanks for sharing your skills.
@AlanHearnshaw
@AlanHearnshaw 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual. Thanks for doing these. I noticed that you used metal tweezers to pick up the battery, with the arms touching both sides of the battery. Doesn’t this short the battery, if only momentarily?
@pavelbau6356
@pavelbau6356 3 жыл бұрын
Brass tweezers
@richardweinberger2756
@richardweinberger2756 3 жыл бұрын
@@pavelbau6356 Doesn't brass conduct electricity?
@donpepejvb75
@donpepejvb75 7 жыл бұрын
Can anyone please help me . I bought this seiko watch and it stops working when the crown is pushed all way in . If I pull stem out just a bit with my finger nail it will start working .
@769conde
@769conde 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch
@Flosim91
@Flosim91 11 жыл бұрын
Hello Mark!Why this movement has 27 jewels?Isn't too much for a quartz movement???
@douro20
@douro20 6 жыл бұрын
Because every pivot is jewelled. These movements are a bit more complicated than the old Seiko ones from the early '80s which were also fully jewelled. This has five motors and a split seconds function whose gears are carried under their own bridge in the center. If I'm looking at the movement photos correctly there are seventeen jewels alone in the split seconds mechanism, which includes the two steppers and the pivots of all of the gears which transfer the motion to the two second hands.
@paulb8186
@paulb8186 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to transfer the brand plaque over to the new movement.
@kanifuker721
@kanifuker721 3 жыл бұрын
Great spot, didn't see that.
@Robert-xp4ii
@Robert-xp4ii 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm confused now. I've watched several of your great videos and I think you're an amazing watch repairman. Recently, I saw a video of yours where you said the date takes a couple hours to flip over, which is why you suggest not to use the rapid date change function between 9p and 3a. In THIS video, you advanced the time until the date changed and said that's now midnight. Why wouldn't the time be 1:23a (for example)?
@mickeydee3595
@mickeydee3595 4 жыл бұрын
Swiss movements tend to snap the date quite quickly where as Japanese movements may take several hours. Thats probably why you are being confused
@douro20
@douro20 9 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if some Hamilton quartz chronographs used this movement...I've seen some very high end ETA quartz movements in their watches. It's quite sad to see a watch this expensive with a plastic movement ring...
@dpfung8
@dpfung8 10 жыл бұрын
Great video
@mnpd3
@mnpd3 11 жыл бұрын
And now for the encore..... despite best efforts, the second hand touches the minute hand once both reach a certain angle. LOL Just kidding --- I can tell you have the right touch for that kind of work. You can guess how I happen to know about it. :)
@mrs.krabbe2493
@mrs.krabbe2493 10 жыл бұрын
Hello. I just started sep of 2014 as a watch tec. I need some help. I was going to put a new battery into a esq, i think was the name but it didn't have an opening in the back of the watch but it did have screws in the front. I did start to open it the crystal came off with the bezel but i got scared and put it back together. Can you please show me how to do it right.. i still dont know how to do the squeeze crystal to open the watch too.
@Fireship1
@Fireship1 8 жыл бұрын
tiffany sweet if the back isn't screw down or snap fit, then you have to access it from the front. I'm not a jeweler or a watchmaker, more of a hobby of mine. He has lots of videos on disassembly here on you tube. Maybe there's one that might give you more understanding.
@pavy415
@pavy415 7 жыл бұрын
tiffany sweet come work for me lol
@mrs.krabbe2493
@mrs.krabbe2493 7 жыл бұрын
I did end up learning how to fix that watch.
@pavy415
@pavy415 7 жыл бұрын
tiffany sweet oh nice
@pavy415
@pavy415 7 жыл бұрын
tiffany sweet oh I see well my store is hiring for watch repair person
@yldraybavas1118
@yldraybavas1118 6 жыл бұрын
Çok teşekkür ederim Mark harika video
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 11 жыл бұрын
Ha ha... Yes it's true - attention to detail is everything. (And a x10 optic ;)
@111111111Tiger
@111111111Tiger 3 жыл бұрын
Great Job
@Memyselfandvan
@Memyselfandvan 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark, great idea that.
@Prendify
@Prendify 8 жыл бұрын
Renata still your battery of choice, not Energizer? I've heard Renata leak more often than Energizer. My only knock on Energizer is combining of sizes so fitment is occasionally challenging.
@dickschwartz3249
@dickschwartz3249 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you - good job.
@asmobrat
@asmobrat 6 жыл бұрын
Why don't you remove the all hands in one time ?
@missfloflowers
@missfloflowers 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'll try it...
@dvamateur
@dvamateur 5 жыл бұрын
Bergeon 4932. Nice.
@wajiduddinsyed9743
@wajiduddinsyed9743 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks😍
@zeljkojelaca
@zeljkojelaca 10 жыл бұрын
nice vid.thanks
@mariocachia3381
@mariocachia3381 11 жыл бұрын
What a waste of a movement ! Great vid !
@BBnose
@BBnose 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@harpomarx7777
@harpomarx7777 7 жыл бұрын
The alignment of that seconds sub-dial hand is UNSAT. It's half a second to the right of the chapter mark. That's sloppy.
@WatchRepairChannel
@WatchRepairChannel 7 жыл бұрын
Harpo Marx lol. It gets set electronically afterwards.
@amezcuaist
@amezcuaist Жыл бұрын
Taking out the movement there were no screws holding it in . Putting back the movement there were two screws inserted . Naughty short cuts for filming to confuse us all .
@kukakevin
@kukakevin 3 жыл бұрын
also certina first chrono have same engine ...
@Brincandopabajo
@Brincandopabajo 7 жыл бұрын
Good.
@Dmeister406
@Dmeister406 8 жыл бұрын
This is why I am not a fan of quartz/battery movements. Effectively the whole watch, sans dial, case and hands is replaced if something goes wrong.
@fpveh2605
@fpveh2605 7 жыл бұрын
Dmeister406 just go to the original watch smooth you bought it from. I've formed a good relationship with mine I buy all my watches from him and in return I get small favours like free battery replacement. I've even had my movement replaced for free once.
@zorky101
@zorky101 11 жыл бұрын
My cheap swatch chronographs use the same movement. Lol
@rahirizwankhan2281
@rahirizwankhan2281 4 жыл бұрын
Worst comment ever
@zorky101
@zorky101 4 жыл бұрын
@@rahirizwankhan2281 Who replies to a 7 year old comment? Jesus. I was like 12 lmao
@rickdekard7237
@rickdekard7237 5 жыл бұрын
You've done this before ! Judging by your speed (chortle)..
@auxpr
@auxpr 3 жыл бұрын
HOW MANY MILLIONS OF TIMES DO I HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS CHEAP COMMERCIAL FFS
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